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Hello, I am a new guy for andriod. Now I am using the lastest offical rom which is KE7.I consider to flash a custom rom while two popular custom roms making me hard to choose, which is VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom. Is there anyone could tell me what's the differfence between these two? what is the advantage of each one? cheers
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
thank u for ur suggestion
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ruskprick said:
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
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This really in the past all Android phones I have owned have been dire out the box and the roms always made them better but apart from running an alternative launcher I think its pretty much perfect rom.
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Hello, I am a new guy for andriod. Now I am using the lastest offical rom which is KE7.I consider to flash a custom rom while two popular custom roms making me hard to choose, which is VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom. Is there anyone could tell me what's the differfence between these two? what is the advantage of each one? cheers
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If you're happy with stock, there's little point in using a custom ROM.
If you want the kind of tweaks I do to ROMs, like removing silly battery warnings, or letting you send longer SMSs to more people, then use VR1.1.
TBH there's no need to use a custom ROM on this phone unless you want these kinds of tweaks, as tbh this phone is good enough out the box
pulser_g2 said:
If you're happy with stock, there's little point in using a custom ROM.
If you want the kind of tweaks I do to ROMs, like removing silly battery warnings, or letting you send longer SMSs to more people, then use VR1.1.
TBH there's no need to use a custom ROM on this phone unless you want these kinds of tweaks, as tbh this phone is good enough out the box
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Does the Villain Tweasks work on the offical firmware? cuz I intall it but does not work on my phone in terms of 'prevent the notification when full charged'.
Just try them both, how long is that really going to take?, I have and prefer Villain simply because I am not big on lightnings theme.
Heh, it's funny how we all have different tastes. I love Litening's theme and it's the only reason I use it. As Pulsar said his opens up so extra tweaks. If you don't have a pressing reason to flash, stick with stock, but maybe root if you need to.
Honestly, Samsung has indeed made a really good work with android 2.3.3. But I took Lightning because I like when there's a theme behind all the software. Like same color, or the similar design which make it good-looking.
I haven't tried Villain, since Litening 1.4 is my first romflashing experience. However, compared to the stock unrooted rom in my Galaxy S II, I think Litening has added significant value to my phone. This includes, but is not limited to:
SMB-shares using Samba
Allows you to access your phone's internal memory and SD card over your WiFi as a shared folder. That way you'll never have to connect your phone by USB to manage files.
Vastly improved sound quality on video recordings
Potatoman has a released a modified version of the camera app, which increases the audio resolution on video recordings from 16 KHz to 44 KHz resulting in clearer and cleaner audio. His mod also allows you to silent the camera (disabling shutter sounds and clicks) and increase the video bitrate (although the effect is negliable).
Improved batterylife
Litening will root the phone, allowing you to get rid of Samsungs bundled apps. Once they are removed, they no longer litter in the background.
Video and voice over Google Talk
Litening features an updated version of Google Talk, which allows you to place free voice and video calls over Googe Talk.
Carrier branding goes away
Some carriers have modified the original firmware to disable certain options, for instance 3 has disabled the option to switch between 2G and 3G mode. Logically, Litening does not incorporate these branded limitations.
Minor user interface improvements
Litening features a modified blue theme, which IMHO looks cool. It features an improved battery icon and a snazzy animation when the screen is turned off.
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I'm new here too! I tried both and they both preform perfectly. Although, from personal experience I found the villianrom to have overall battery life but lite'ning to be more stable with a focus on performance.
I am currently on villainrom lite (bloat removed) with the nimphetamine kernel as I find the battery life to be more important to me.
If you want UI overhaul and improved usability, I recommend MIUI. To be honest, it's the only ROM I find greatly improves the way you use the phone.
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ruskprick said:
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
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Exactly. There's no rush to flash a new rom because the original Samsung rom is quite ok for me. Wait for a few months and there'll be a lot of better alternatives and CM is getting better and better everyday.
I feel embarrassed to have to ask this, and I know a lot of people hate this type of post. I want a suggestion for what custom ROM to flash.
I started flashing about 5 months ago with Darky's ROM. And now I like my phone. ( I won't say love, because I love my parents, my children, StarTrek, BSG, hot girls, and icecream and that's it). BUT, the more I flash, the more I get annoyed with the gliches. Darky's 10.1 didn't have working GTalk (w/ Camera), and sometimes has some bugs. I lately flashed Ruyyo EDB1.1 (JVP ROM), but sometimes the phone restarts or crashes, and every 3 days or so, SOMETHING runs down the battery (meaning, the phone over-heats, acts slow, and loses all battery in 5 hours). That might be because of an app, but I think its on the rom. The main apps I use are HandcentSMS, ADW-Ex, and Multi-picture live wall paper. And Gmail (which is FCing every time I restart the phone)
Now there are so many ROMs out, I don't know which one to get. All say they are stable and fast...and I'm sure for many people they are. But I am searching for suggestins. I cannot try out many because I live in China, and because of the damn stupid retarded Great Firewall of China, all downloads of ROMs from Multi-upload are slow (and I need special software to access that site).
So...I'm looking for a ROM which is really stable, which I do not need to do a wipe-flash with and can install with CWM. I would prefer that it use the same lag-fix solution as the Darky ROM so that I can go back to it when they update ...but as I don't every actually activate the lag-fix, probably does not matter.
I'm looking for a ROM which must have voodoo sound (the ability to use my phone with my own AKG earphones without having to unplug said earphones when I answer a call is what convinced me to keep the SGS instead of getting an iPhone4... so this is critical)
I need my ROM to support live wallpapers, so that I can use my LCARS wallpaper with multi-pic.
I prefer my ROM to support the Samsung Music player with the integrated lock-screen widget.
I really prefer ROM which has the front-camera fixed and google-talk operating.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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I feel embarrassed to have to ask this, and I know a lot of people hate this type of post. I want a suggestion for what custom ROM to flash.
I started flashing about 5 months ago with Darky's ROM. And now I like my phone. ( I won't say love, because I love my parents, my children, StarTrek, BSG, hot girls, and icecream and that's it). BUT, the more I flash, the more I get annoyed with the gliches. Darky's 10.1 didn't have working GTalk (w/ Camera), and sometimes has some bugs. I lately flashed Ruyyo EDB1.1 (JVP ROM), but sometimes the phone restarts or crashes, and every 3 days or so, SOMETHING runs down the battery (meaning, the phone over-heats, acts slow, and loses all battery in 5 hours). That might be because of an app, but I think its on the rom. The main apps I use are HandcentSMS, ADW-Ex, and Multi-picture live wall paper. And Gmail (which is FCing every time I restart the phone)
Now there are so many ROMs out, I don't know which one to get. All say they are stable and fast...and I'm sure for many people they are. But I am searching for suggestins. I cannot try out many because I live in China, and because of the damn stupid retarded Great Firewall of China, all downloads of ROMs from Multi-upload are slow (and I need special software to access that site).
So...I'm looking for a ROM which is really stable, which I do not need to do a wipe-flash with and can install with CWM. I would prefer that it use the same lag-fix solution as the Darky ROM so that I can go back to it when they update ...but as I don't every actually activate the lag-fix, probably does not matter.
I'm looking for a ROM which must have voodoo sound (the ability to use my phone with my own AKG earphones without having to unplug said earphones when I answer a call is what convinced me to keep the SGS instead of getting an iPhone4... so this is critical)
I need my ROM to support live wallpapers, so that I can use my LCARS wallpaper with multi-pic.
I prefer my ROM to support the Samsung Music player with the integrated lock-screen widget.
I really prefer ROM which has the front-camera fixed and google-talk operating.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Sounds very much like what I am looking for also. I am on Darky at the moment as well. I just want a good, fresh and 100% stable ROM.
- I need root
- Lagfix would be nice
- Needs to be able to work well with Launcher Pro Plus
- Good battery life
- BLN essential
We all need roms that are stable, fast, and with a good battery life... I think I've tried all main SGS roms, but at the end I think I'll stick with MIUI.
I liked Darky's rom, but I've got too many force-closes... maybe it was my fault because I didn't flash it correctly.
But for a month or so I've used MIUI... it's the fastest rom... You've got tons of lockscreens.. including samsung's (I think). Battery life it's not the best, but the devs are really working on making this rom perfect. For example.. for Galnet... this week 2 updates came out, and we're waiting for a big one friday.
My advice: give MIUI a try and you won't be disapointed
flaviucu said:
We all need roms that are stable, fast, and with a good battery life... I think I've tried all main SGS roms, but at the end I think I'll stick with MIUI.
I liked Darky's rom, but I've got too many force-closes... maybe it was my fault because I didn't flash it correctly.
But for a month or so I've used MIUI... it's the fastest rom... You've got tons of lockscreens.. including samsung's (I think). Battery life it's not the best, but the devs are really working on making this rom perfect. For example.. for Galnet... this week 2 updates came out, and we're waiting for a big one friday.
My advice: give MIUI a try and you won't be disapointed
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There are three reasons why I did not try MIUI. BUT, my reasons may be flawed.
1. In my understanding, MIUI is based on Cryogen (or something like that), which requires that I flash (wipe-flash?) a Froyo ROM first. Which means that I have to download two huge files through the Great FireWall of China. I know that's a lame reason...but that's a fair amount of work for me. Not to mention reloading all my apps.
2. In my understanding, CM (and hence MIUI) does not have the Voodoo sound and does not have the Samsung Music app. The music app is not so big a deal because (in my understanding), CM and MIUI have their own in-notification-bar music controls (which is why I like the Samsung music app). However, I need Voodoo sound in order to allow use of my own headphone while talking on the telephone.
3. In my understanding, MIUI is supposed to look like iOS, which I do not like.
Please let me know if my understandings are wrong.
I also didn't try it because I don't want to flash an updated version twice a week. I want a good working ROM from the start with no need to update until the next Android version comes out.
I am oso on darky's rom previously but having same issue. Then tried Tweaky's rom and Juwe's rom too. Juwe's rom is fast but its bit dull colored and lack of sgs2 apps like Tweaky's rom.Now I am using my own rom base on JVP with Talon kernel with OC, actually it's a mix and match of Tweaky n Juwe's rom. Everything is working so far with some sgs2 apps, tw4, gtalk with video call.Flash n wipe is a must for a start. If u r interested I can post a link for u.
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CM7 (CyanogenMod7) has Voodoo Sound for sure, even Voodoo Colour. BLN should also be possible with a custom kernel.
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best looking rom, fast and reliable its galnet mui. Battery life it;s not great yet but galnet its working hard to fix.
i think that after flashing couple of roms you will decide.
My advice: Juwe's Smart Edition v5.0 XXJVP .... he have all what you need .... and much more
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My advice: Juwe's Smart Edition v5.0 XXJVP .... he have all what you need .... and much more
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I'm gonna go with that. What's the best way to flash from Darky 10.1? Disable lag, wipe, flash official and then juwe?
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I'm gonna go with that. What's the best way to flash from Darky 10.1? Disable lag, wipe, flash official and then juwe?
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Exactly. Just diable lagfix, full factory reset and finally flash Juwe's ROM with CWM.
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I tried most of these roms. I tried to play dungeon defenders with some roms. Holy.. that was very laggy and and unplayable. Now I'm on MIUI 2.2 rom. I tried dungeon defenders again. Wow.. Smooth and smooth... all FPS are X2 on quadrant. My device clock is 1600 mhz max as default as miui. Sometimes it stucks and restarts. But galnet works really hard. And battery is not the best ok. But thats worth it. You can download different themes with theme manager. Also there is an air update app for muiu. Which updates your device latest miui. I l
will stick with that..
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i m using galnet miui also
but the updates is too fast for me to chase
i came from mcgv5.3 to miui 2.2 without going thru mcgv 7.6
personally wat i think miui lacks off is the slide to call or sms from contacts and phone calls there
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Exactly. Just diable lagfix, full factory reset and finally flash Juwe's ROM with CWM.
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Why factory reset? Why not just do no-wipe flash with CWM?
Part of my problem is that there are a lot of ROMs, and if I'm wiping everytime I do a new ROM, its takes quite a while to restore to full functionality...albiet the end result may be more stable.
burakgon said:
I tried most of these roms. I tried to play dungeon defenders with some roms. Holy.. that was very laggy and and unplayable. Now I'm on MIUI 2.2 rom. I tried dungeon defenders again. Wow.. Smooth and smooth... all FPS are X2 on quadrant. My device clock is 1600 mhz max as default as miui. Sometimes it stucks and restarts. But galnet works really hard. And battery is not the best ok. But thats worth it. You can download different themes with theme manager. Also there is an air update app for muiu. Which updates your device latest miui. I l
will stick with that..
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So you are saying that you had better battery life with others, and MIUI sometimes gets stuck, but you like MIUI because its faster for games and themes? That's not really what I need (although I do like the notification options I saw on it has). I am more not into this because I'm not into having to Flash back to Froyo in order to install.
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CM7 (CyanogenMod7) has Voodoo Sound for sure, even Voodoo Colour. BLN should also be possible with a custom kernel.
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Hearing this, I'm tempted to bite the bullet and go through the CM7 install proceedure. I then will have to upload the google apps and the new google talk. But the end result may be pretty cool (assuming does not drain battery more than other ROMs). Thanks for the info.
MIUI rom doesnt stuck and restarts as your think. Battery life is not horrible. You can control your headset in miui with different module like voodoo sound. I think thats the best rom to stick now. You can get air updates and you dont need to wipe your data for updates. Just give it a try. I guess you will like it.
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burakgon said:
MIUI rom doesnt stuck and restarts as your think. Battery life is not horrible. You can control your headset in miui with different module like voodoo sound. I think thats the best rom to stick now. You can get air updates and you dont need to wipe your data for updates. Just give it a try. I guess you will like it.
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Thank you. I don't think it gets stuck. Its just that you said in previous post "Sometimes it stucks and restarts." I may try this out. I think I'm going to wait and see what this JVQ-based ROM is like before I do any ROM which requires a wipe.
Slightly off-topic...About my phone...I'm not sure, but I think sometimes the heavy battery drain and restarts are caused by Handcent SMS. I downloaded an app called "OSMonitor" It showed that sometimes Android System is continuously using 40% of CPU, and at those times, Handcent is using 50% of CPU. I guess I should delete Handcent and see if my phone gets better stability and performance. Seems maybe the stability problems were might be blamed in the wrong place. BUT...I really like Handcent...
I'm in a similar situation and decided the only way to get what I want is to put it together myself. This also means you probably wont have the latest and greatest because they might be cool but not always the most stable.
What you can do is, get a deodexed stock rom, install a stable kernel with the mods you need (voodoo, bln, rooted and busybox etc) than use Titanium backup to remove all the things you don't want. presto, you'll have what you wanted...
I think the best option is CM7.
Greetings.
I have CM7 and must re-charge every 8h... Moderate use. Are other ROMs better battery-wise?
Hello, I am a desperate GT540 user, a real desperate user.
My problem with my phone as is now (official 2.1) is that it is so laggy at times. The response is so awful from time to time that I really want to crash the phone at the wall (and damn I just painted the wall).
Sometimes when I got a call it shows instantly who is calling, some other times it start ringing, it slowly light the buttons, then the screen, then it show some graphics and finally it identify who is calling me (and the whole coffee shop at the moment is looking disturbed at me like "what take so long to pick up?").
This lag can happen in other places too, like for example when opening my SMSs.
My last hope now is a custom ROM.
What I want?
Well I don't want to play games or have some mind blow performance in benchmarks etc, I just want to use my phone as a phone, I want it to be quick and responsive.
I do care about the apps to work ofc (GPS and Gmaps can come in hand all the time) but I don't care if those apps are slow or the games are losing frames etc.
Also I want to have some android version that allow me to install apps in the SD card, if possible. Otherwise a workaround is something than nothing I guess.
So which rom to get? A link on how to install it as well will be very very welcome.
Thanks in advance!
CM7 Pcfighter is very fast ROM but have bug with wifi, its working but to turn on you need few times click, other working great on this ROM.
Other good ROM is OXYGEN 2.3.7 this one have .29 kernel but it very fast and all working when i testing.
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CM7 Pcfighter is very fast ROM but have bug with wifi, its working but to turn on you need few times click, other working great on this ROM.
Other good ROM is OXYGEN 2.3.7 this one have .29 kernel but it very fast and all working when i testing.
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The bug doesn't sound like a problem, especially if I am aware of it I will not have a problem at all.
Is there any step by step guide to install this?
Thanks!
sure here is guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224747
and ROM's:
2.3.7 Oxygen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335317
PCF's CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294516
Thank you very much, I hope this can give some life to that phone because I really hate to realize that I wasted 200 euros on that phone.
(I mean wasted because first LG abandoned the support while the phone was still on the market, and never got a newer android version and because I want my phones to be with me for at least 4-5 years, before I get a new one).
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CM7 Pcfighter is very fast ROM but have bug with wifi, its working but to turn on you need few times click, other working great on this ROM.
Other good ROM is OXYGEN 2.3.7 this one have .29 kernel but it very fast and all working when i testing.
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Wifi bug is now fixed.
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I use mur4ik's CM7 ASIS rom and I purchased and set up Autostarts from Market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
With the combination of these I am satisfied.
Many apps are started by different activites, like "phone unplugged" or "recieve sms" and I disabled the unnecessary app starts with Autostarts.
I mean my alarm clock does not start automatically anymore if I plug the phone in for example and many many more like this.
With this method my phone runs smoothly.
yes asis is good if you want to flash a fastboot version use the mirror in my sig its compressed so it download faster
Mikes Beta 4
ok... so I set things up to install the CM7.
I follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224747
but it is missing the fastboot.exe, the link is invalid. Any other link to get it safely?
Also it is noticing the situation of no LG logo and animations at startup, a situation that applies to me as well and it recommend this solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10238074&postcount=41
The problem is that with the solution is another missing file "out.kdz", the link get's me in some Czech site, which requires to install some toolbar before it let me download.
So any other link for that file as well?
Also anyone knows if it is required to fix the Boot logo problem before I go on with the recovery?
Download Android SDK tools you will find fastboot.exe there
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Download Android SDK tools you will find fastboot.exe there
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I am completely noob on this thing, where can I find those tools?
http://developer.android.com/sdk/tools-notes.html
EDIT:
I got it working!
I found the files here and there and I followed the guide posted above.
Now I have Cyanogen Mod 7 on and everything seems great so far
Thank you everybody for the help, you just made me happy
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Thanks.
Any idea about the other file? Or any idea if it is not necessary to fix the no LG logo problem, to add a custom rom?
edit: I got the SDK zip but there is no fastboot.exe in there :|
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CM7 is good, whichever u use! Guess the best cm7 is pcf but i've not tried all of the roms released!
I recomend u to use froyo (2.2) cause has the best performance, REALLY smoth, fast, everything... And our phone gets it best than GB, cause i've tested that when I get a text or Whatsapp msg, the keyboard shows faster in Froyo than GB (FOR EXAMPLE) which mean that has better response.
I recomend u Froyo cause i'm like you and I get what u say xD, I hate when someone calls and I can see who's, or the lack of speed on daily things or common things as showing an img or smth similar!
Best froyos are PCF 2.2 v2.3 AOSP, Superfast Froyo (airbus360) and MikeG's CM6 Froyo... Give then a test or test all roms you want so u can choose on your own!
But be REALLY carefuly about the process cause some bugs are shown when flashing roms!
Remember to clear cache and load battery xD
Thanks, but so far the CM7 with 2.3 is OK.
I have no lag at all and even the battery life improved.
Of course it is a bit early to be sure that this is my mod, but so far everything is fine (the wifi bug appears from time to time but not always, but it work after a few attempts).
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CM7 is good, whichever u use! Guess the best cm7 is pcf but i've not tried all of the roms released!
I recomend u to use froyo (2.2) cause has the best performance, REALLY smoth, fast, everything... And our phone gets it best than GB, cause i've tested that when I get a text or Whatsapp msg, the keyboard shows faster in Froyo than GB (FOR EXAMPLE) which mean that has better response.
I recomend u Froyo cause i'm like you and I get what u say xD, I hate when someone calls and I can see who's, or the lack of speed on daily things or common things as showing an img or smth similar!
Best froyos are PCF 2.2 v2.3 AOSP, Superfast Froyo (airbus360) and MikeG's CM6 Froyo... Give then a test or test all roms you want so u can choose on your own!
But be REALLY carefuly about the process cause some bugs are shown when flashing roms!
Remember to clear cache and load battery xD
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Ok i understand thats your opinion, And ofc i have no problem with that
Whats with everybody saying froyo is better for our phone!
I can honestly say the best rom for our phone at the minute is Mikes ICS (if your willing to cope with out Deep Sleep. YES i know its a big ask )
I cant understand why even mike appears to say on his twitter ICS dosent make sense on our phones.
Ive been hovering around these forums for the past 12 months + and i have try'd all roms that have been posted. Im Picky
But Mikes ICS is out right the best for looks, speed, smoothness, performance and multitasking
I have had absolutly no problems using ICS (deep sleep not included )
Its a shame there seems to be more support for Froyo than ginger and ICS
like for example if i had to move from ICS i would go back to GB because for me it preforms better than froyo.
Is there Something ive missed with froyo or can a hardware issue cause a rom to preform differantly on 2 different devices.
(guess i had the one good processor of the line )
because im baffled why people choose froyo
@up i like froyo better then gb
i dont really think for me that is that cm9 is ready for daily use yet some bugs not squashed
Hi guys,
Well, I am stuck to my milestone 2 since there aren't any keyboard-slider phones in available in germany, that's really sad.
Also I am thinking about which ROM you use, since I don't know which one would be the best for me, so I started making a list.
(I don't like omg-winzip roms, so I just stated the main one)
CyanogenMod 7
Pros :
- almost stable
- works fast
Cons :
- there is no ALT-Lock
- it's going to be outdated
CyanogenMod 9
Pros:
- newest android version
- a lot of eyecandy, since ICS looks awesome
Cons:
- still not everything works
- ICS is heavier than GB, and cause of the missing HW-Acc, it's really laggy
Stock Rom
Pros:
- everything should work
- 720p recording
Cons:
- Bloated
- Really, really ****ing slow
- Froyo (unless you use a buggy GB on the Froyo kernel or SBF to GB)
So, what do you use?
I see the lack of a "perfect" rom for the Milestone 2
I use CM9 but i agree with you when you say that it's laggy but i really hope that it will be fixed in the next update.
And for me, most of the apps that i want works (except for Opera, Dolphin and those that need the HW accel).
I can't completely agree with your cons for CM9 and Stock:
CM9: It's blazingly fast, even without HW acc. That and video recording are the main two things that do not work. It might be heavier, but it sure as hell isn't laggy.
Stock: I don't know which stock GB you tried, but once again; even with the bloat is blazingly fast. Froyo was really slow indeed, but GB is fast as ****.
I think CM7, CM9 and Stock are all viable. It's just what you like best:
Everything working: Stock
Almost everything working and customization: CM7
Latest, with some lacking features: CM9
If you're looking for a "perfect" ROM, you probably should take a look at Argen2Stone or MS2Ginger. They're based on stock GB, with customizations.
You forgot MIUI...amazing ROM.
I installled a test version from the CM9, and for me a lot of things need a fix.
- camera itself;
- all apps from google doesn't open
I just moved to the stock version, for me it's much better since everything works.
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You may try all of the ROMs.
I had tried some ROMs from Gfan(from china) ,it's okay but there are many things that's just for Chinese people.(some apps ,features).
Also tried cm7(i7ovehope) which is my favorite one.It works stable and fast.
I found that i cannot downgrade ,after i flash stock GB I can't try cm9 ,miui...
Now I am using MS2Ginger 3.0(I delete some apps by myself to make it more smooth) and I am going to try Argen2Stone 3.
Dun think too much, just go ahead and find out which one is the best for you.
hanry123 said:
You may try all of the ROMs.
I had tried some ROMs from Gfan(from china) ,it's okay but there are many things that's just for Chinese people.(some apps ,features).
Also tried cm7(i7ovehope) which is my favorite one.It works stable and fast.
I found that i cannot downgrade ,after i flash stock GB I can't try cm9 ,miui...
Now I am using MS2Ginger 3.0(I delete some apps by myself to make it more smooth) and I am going to try Argen2Stone 3.
Dun think too much, just go ahead and find out which one is the best for you.
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Actually, as long as you're not using Vivo (Brazil) or Personal (Argentina) ROMs, you can downgrade. Take a look in the Android Development area.
MS2 Hongkong rom
I need the original stock 2.2 rom for Hong Kong MS2 version. In SBF format, of course, because cwm can't start.
The filesonic link is broken on and-developers.com/sbf:milestone2
Thanks
CyanogenMod 9
Pros:
- newest android version
- a lot of eyecandy, since ICS looks awesome
- smooth and fast
- very stable
Cons:
- still not everything works << just HWA is not working. If you do not watch FullHD videos and do not use Flash, it will not bother you.. So then there are not any cons.
- ICS is heavier than GB, and cause of the missing HW-Acc, it's really laggy << Totally not true, it is smooth
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Pros:
- everything should work
- 720p recording
Cons:
- Bloated
- Really, really ****ing slow << To be honest - it is not true about stock GB.. Stock GB is actually pretty fast.
- Froyo (unless you use a buggy GB on the Froyo kernel or SBF to GB) << There is actually official stock GB, you know?
MIUI (not the ICS one)
Pros:
- long battery life
- nice, united design etc.
Cons:
- slow
- buggy
I see many perfect ROMs here - did you even tried them or you judge them without trying them?
CM7, CM9, stock GB, Argen2Stone, MIUI... all roms are nice and perfect if you do not need useless things like fullHD playback (who the hells needs to play HD videos on your tiny M2 screen) or 720p videos record (omg, what do you need to record? Buy camera if you rely on quality that hard)...
Also
> Well, I am stuck to my milestone 2 since there aren't any keyboard-slider phones in available in germany, that's really sad.
Are you kidding? What is sad about that? I bought M2 few months before and it was not cheap. I don't see why it is sad?! I would understood, if you stuck with Nokia 3310, but is THAT BAD for you? OMG what are you doing here then?
> (I don't like omg-winzip roms, so I just stated the main one)
Use search in the future, there is at least one another topic just like this (with pros and cons)...
.. thats my two cents.
I'd say that yesterday's update on sfc3001's CM9 Release made it pretty much perfect for me, with HWA the UI is buttersmooth, the battery use with Apex seems to be pretty smooth.
The Pros:
- Smooth UI.
- Volume Rocker now allows you to swap songs with the screen locked. (hold v+/-)
- Loads of stuff now works properly. (Touch Controls on MaxPayne Mobile is a good example)
- Less battery use.
- Easier to use UI, better developer tools (TCP/ip ADB, etc)
The Negatives:
- No MotoBLUR. (I'll probably get some angry PM's about this)
- Flash seems to act up with all the browsers I've tested.
- Took me 2 months to be brave enough to flash it. (Right in time to get the HWA update!)
- Took me 4 soft bricks in order to get this working.
- Opera Mobile doesn't work well. (Needs font fixes, and still won't work well after doing that)
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I'd say that yesterday's update on sfc3001's CM9 Release made it pretty much perfect for me, with HWA the UI is buttersmooth, the battery use with Apex seems to be pretty smooth.
The Pros:
- Smooth UI.
- Volume Rocker now allows you to swap songs with the screen locked. (hold v+/-)
- Loads of stuff now works properly. (Touch Controls on MaxPayne Mobile is a good example)
- Less battery use.
- Easier to use UI, better developer tools (TCP/ip ADB, etc)
The Negatives:
- No MotoBLUR. (I'll probably get some angry PM's about this)
- Flash seems to act up with all the browsers I've tested.
- Took me 2 months to be brave enough to flash it. (Right in time to get the HWA update!)
- Took me 4 soft bricks in order to get this working.
- Opera Mobile doesn't work well. (Needs font fixes, and still won't work well after doing that)
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Yeah, the two latest version of sfc3001/Alexc804 (same dev, different pseudos, guess from different communities ) brought the ICS port close to fully functionnal, with HW acceleration (thx to dan**** the main dev on the Milestone, who got it working for all of us ), camera, 720p decoding/recording, panorama and so on.
It'll be probably working better and better from now on, specially with CM9 getting off alpha/beta, and going toward stable.
On your "cons" :
- MotoBlur not being there is probably the best possible news and the main reason to move to modded ui for pretty much everyone out there .... but if you like/want it back, check http: (slash slash)forum.xda-developers.com(slash)showthread.php?t=1577123, it's a "port" of Blur for ICS devices
- you're not the only one who took a ****load of time to make the jump to flashing. I know the partial lack of doc on the whole GB kernel thingy didn't help.
- Didn't brick anything, the first time it worked flawlessly... but yeah, since then, messing with wrong apps, making mistakes, i've bricked it quite some, but who cares, with the locked bootloader, one thing we can't do is permanently brick our phones, all we need if to find the right sbf to reflash (which was a pain during the first 2/3 months after MU was taken down )
- Once the font fix was in place, i didn't had any problems with Opera anymore, and others seems to have it working flawlessly too.
ICS HWA
The latest ICS rom has partly working HWA.
Ashareth said:
- Didn't brick anything, the first time it worked flawlessly... but yeah, since then, messing with wrong apps, making mistakes, i've bricked it quite some, but who cares, with the locked bootloader, one thing we can't do is permanently brick our phones, all we need if to find the right sbf to reflash (which was a pain during the first 2/3 months after MU was taken down )
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In some ways, the locked bootloader did a good job on preventing us from bricking the phone.
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In some ways, the locked bootloader did a good job on preventing us from bricking the phone.
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Yeah "in a way".... except it makes developpement far harder and actually brings more problems and "soft bricks" than without one.
I have a rooted Defy+, from which I already removed all the cruft I don't need. I am mostly happy with the phone, but there are a few quirks which are making me consider changing to a custom ROM to get a more recent Android version (rather than Gingerbread, 2.3.6).
However, I am concerned about the drawbacks of doing so. For instance, one of my brothers runs a custom ROM as well, and he suffers from random reboots around twice a week.
If I want the best reliability, are the official ROMs my only choice? Or do some of the custom ROMs manage uptime in the range of weeks/months? Also, is there anything else I'd be giving up by changing? Like, I don't know, device drivers/features? (Motorola specific software as MotoBlur I couldn't care less about).
What are your experiences in these areas? I imagine ICS-based ROMs are much more stable than JB ones, but how much?
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JB is in my opinion quite stable when considering Sevenrock's version. I have been using Sevenrock's 20130209 CM10 for a month now and I haven't experienced any random reboot. ICS is quite stable with the exception of Wi-Fi tether which is unstable.
You will lose the wallpapers, notification sounds,ringtones,etc. of the official rom while upgrading.
Thanks, a month of uptime sounds quite acceptable.
Regarding loss of features, I can assume that the waterproof/shockproof/etcproof features of the phone are still intact? Those are the actual features that I really care about (the most, at least).
I'll probably try updating to a custom ROM that is considered stable by the maintainers later on
Hello'
I can tell you that on CM10, VPN Tunneling doesn't work
there is a ringtone bug too ( after ? time )
Re: [Q] Defy+: What is lost by changing from the official (rooted) ROM to a custom on
You lose proper 720p recording and overall speed
Waterproof and shock proof etc are hardware features
CM7 and latest CM10 and MS2Ginger are the most "stable", and of these MS2Ginger being stock based has proper 720p recording
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thekguy said:
You lose proper 720p recording and overall speed
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Overall speed? Compared to what? To the stock ROM? I was always under the impression that updating the Android version from Gingerbread to ICS or JB would result in a snappier interface.
Anyway, the other "lost" features mentioned so far don't impact me personally at all, so it sounds like it should be safe to update.
Regarding waterproof/etc being hardware features, I recall reading somewhere else that a certain custom ROM did not support that which is why I felt the need to ask.
Thanks again for the additional information.
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The stock rom is snappier, but the launcher is not really smooth. By snappier I mean response time. Cm10 is smooth but not very snappy
All custom roms support waterproof/other features.
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The stock rom is snappier
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Interesting... looks like I should really try to stick to the stock ROM, after all.
Thanks for all the information, guys, I will consider this topic as dealt with.
What is lost?
>1 minute delay opening google maps
frustration at slow interface
need to recharge every couple of hours
stability / peace of mind
I'm on quarx CM10 20130217 made faster by blechdose cfs 14/03 kernel - really smooth and nice to use. 20130220 was okay, stable and smooth-ish, but incompatible with blechdose kernel, so can't get it as smooth. 20130307, which backtracks further in search of stability, is frustratingly laggy (nowhere near as bad as stock though IMO) - at the moment I have 95 apps and >40GB of music.
That's what you gain, a learning curve, fun fiddles, some bits of the phone work smoother than you could ever imagine, which is great unless there is a bug in something you really want to use (luckily for me, there doesn't seem to be).