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I was just reading about webOS and how good its interface is when dealing with multi-tasking and I realised how poor androids multi-tasking interface is. The only way I know to switch between running apps is to hold home button for a few seconds...
I personally think this can be improved by having thumbnails of open apps popup when the home button is single pressed on a home screen. Just as at the moment previews of all the home screens popup I think this should be switched with open app previews. I rarely ever use the home screen preview thing so i think its wasted, but I definitely would use app selector if little thumbnails showed.
Anybody have any thoughts on this? Im not a developer so I have no idea if this is possible but I think it would be a good feature to add and improve android. Do any devs think they can implement this??
Moved to general as not ROM development.
This would be a feature for a launcher app, so might be worth suggesting to someone like Fede who develops Launcher Pro, or cyanogenmod people that make ADW?
yes you are right. thanks. I was too lazy to find the relevant section to post under. will try contacting anderweb. or fede.
There are a couple of apps which overlays a screen on top of the current app you are in by tapping home twice, you can then open apps/access widgets without having to go back to homescreen first.
Currently im using 'smart taskbar', you can set the activation mode to be (1) tapping on a half-circle spot on either side of your screen or (2) swiping from one side to another. You can then open from a list of 5 'pinned' apps or choose from the mini apps drawer below, or click a tab called 'running' which seems the same as the current holding on home button behavior.
check out power strip. allows you to get a popup window where ever you are by doubble tapping home button (ore long press search button). there you can have quick access to widgets, shortcuts etc. really cool.
smiskkissen said:
check out power strip. allows you to get a popup window where ever you are by doubble tapping home button (ore long press search button). there you can have quick access to widgets, shortcuts etc. really cool.
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just downloaded both power strip and the one mentioned above. Will try them both out and report back on whether its what i was suggesting. Thanks for your suggestions.
As far as physical goes...Android has too many buttons. IMO you only need:
Button 1
Press Once = Sleep
Press Twice = Wake
Long Press = Shutdown/Turn On
Button 2
Press Once = Desktop
Press Twice = AppDrawer
Long Press = Open/Close Dockbar (scrollable dock for heavily used apps such as phone, messaging, music, etc that doesnt take up screen space.)
Button 3
Volume up/down
and possibly a dedicated CAPACITIVE scrolling/zooming button for fast scanning thru the app drawer and/or desktops and/or scrolling/zooming in web browsers.
(this way u can have larger widgets on ur desktops because u have a dedicated app drawer button and not one that takes up space on ur desktop. plus ur not limited to just 7 desktops like u get with HTC preview screens or launcherpro, etc because it would be easy to scroll thru 20 desktops with the dedicated capacitive scroll)
Ok. So if u put the sleep/wake on top of the phone, volume button on the left side, your left with just one button like the iphone and maybe my proposed idea of the capacitive scrolling button (thats if u like that idea).
this would be different from the iphone even though the iphone has one button because its functions are different. the iphone button does BACK+LONG PRESS=HOME. this would do a DESKTOP/APPDRAWER+LONG PRESS= DOCKBAR.
so it has 3 functions instead of 2. add in the capacitive scrolling and u have a simple easy to use device without redundant buttons thats still different from
apples iphone.
-no need for back button. browsers and apps can provide soft buttons in its user interface.
-no need for search button. widgets and apps can be used for this on ur desktop
-no need for settings button. again, widgets and apps can be used on ur desktops. put ur desktops to use!
great if u understood what i said. sorry for the rant if u didnt. just an idea and my 2cents.
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Get an iphone if you want less buttons.
I personally love the back, home and menu buttons, and find them very very useful.
Errr... my three most frequent used buttons are: back, home and menu and you want to remove 2 of them. Yeah, great idea ;-)
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Errr... my three most frequent used buttons are: back, home and menu and you want to remove 2 of them. Yeah, great idea ;-)
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I agree, the last iphone I used pissed me off hard not having a physical back button....
I agree. back and home are essential! relying too much on soft buttons is silly. Also if you really dont like the OS because of the number of hard buttons then I think you are a little confused.
The hard buttons are usually decided by the manufacturer arent they? maybe your rant should be directed at htc and not android? I could be wrong.
mini_robot said:
As far as physical goes...Android has too many buttons. IMO you only need:
Button 1
Press Once = Sleep
Press Twice = Wake
Long Press = Shutdown/Turn On
Button 2
Press Once = Desktop
Press Twice = AppDrawer
Long Press = Open/Close Dockbar (scrollable dock for heavily used apps such as phone, messaging, music, etc that doesnt take up screen space.)
Button 3
Volume up/down
and possibly a dedicated CAPACITIVE scrolling/zooming button for fast scanning thru the app drawer and/or desktops and/or scrolling/zooming in web browsers.
(this way u can have larger widgets on ur desktops because u have a dedicated app drawer button and not one that takes up space on ur desktop. plus ur not limited to just 7 desktops like u get with HTC preview screens or launcherpro, etc because it would be easy to scroll thru 20 desktops with the dedicated capacitive scroll)
Ok. So if u put the sleep/wake on top of the phone, volume button on the left side, your left with just one button like the iphone and maybe my proposed idea of the capacitive scrolling button (thats if u like that idea).
this would be different from the iphone even though the iphone has one button because its functions are different. the iphone button does BACK+LONG PRESS=HOME. this would do a DESKTOP/APPDRAWER+LONG PRESS= DOCKBAR.
so it has 3 functions instead of 2. add in the capacitive scrolling and u have a simple easy to use device without redundant buttons thats still different from
apples iphone.
-no need for back button. browsers and apps can provide soft buttons in its user interface.
-no need for search button. widgets and apps can be used for this on ur desktop
-no need for settings button. again, widgets and apps can be used on ur desktops. put ur desktops to use!
great if u understood what i said. sorry for the rant if u didnt. just an idea and my 2cents.
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That is steve jobs talk. -_-
LOL...I'm short of buttons. Idea = Long press Menu-> contacts and Long press Back->screen off or Camera, Trackball press -> receive/pickup call at lockscreen.
search button: yep, that button is needless, I never use it.
All other buttons are essential.
The home button and back button are very important. The back button isn't just for going one page in a browser back. Couldn't live with it. The menu button is very important, too, because it's a dedicated button which is the same in EVERY app, so you always know how to find the settings.
And then, volume and power button, you can't remove them.
PS: Two times button hitting to execute a command is silly.
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search button: yep, that button is needless, I never use it.
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This is where the Galaxy S shines: the menu button acts as both the menu and search buttons.
I think the search button is indispensable. When I want to find any contact or document in my phone, any thing in google it gets me there in one step.
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Lol, this dude is tripping. Giving up my 4 beautiful and all useful buttons. In instead lose screen estate cause every app is gonna make the SAME thing at the bottom as the buttons?
Lol. GTFO
You may have heard of this semi-obscure device that is basically what you are looking for. It is called the "iPhone", if you look it up on the interwebs you may be able to find something about it.
less buttons? seriously? im sorry to hear you cannot afford an iphone if you want it that bad.
I'd agree as well that some physical buttons are very useful to avoid wasting screen real estate with buttons. That said, the HTC Hero has 6 buttons (call, hang up, menu, home, back and search) which is probably a bit OTT as call and hang up are replicated on-screen all the time. But buttons like home, back and menu are essential, as others have said.
The key is that if *all* Android hardware has the same core set of buttons, then developers can rely on those buttons being there and use them intelligently. All too often you see programs which have clearly been ported over from another system without any effort having been made to adapt them to the Android system. Not only do these waste space, but they also feel counter-intuitive to an Android user because they use a different UI model. My particular pet-peeve is apps which forget to take control of the volume rocker for their audio - that makes me accidentally adjust my ringtone volume (which is normally silent!) instead of the app's volume
Umm, sorry for the rant...
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...All too often you see programs which have clearly been ported over from another system without any effort having been made to adapt them to the Android system...
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Like the pause button on angry birds. Have they realised androids have a button called menu?
I love the 4/5 physical buttons on android, even if you don't use the search button a lot at first, you can always assign that button to something you want.
I wish I had 1 more button...a dedicated forward button...I get a little jumpy with my back button.
Less is not always more. Less is sometimes just less(i.e. iPhone)
mercianary said:
Like the pause button on angry birds. Have they realised androids have a button called menu?
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Well, you could try pressing the Menu button to see that they have!
veetip said:
Well, you could try pressing the Menu button to see that they have!
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Yeah I know. My point is the button onscreen is a waste of space because it it replicated by a hardware button.
The "search" button is more of a Google thing. Its a android phone (google) so they want a search option of there database to be easily accessed.
Just got the N4 yesterday and love it but for one really irksome thing -- that the back button, which I use a lot, is on the left while the "running apps" button, which I don't, is on the right. It's a big phone so having stuff as near as possible to the bottom right-hand corner is key to one-handed operation (for righties, of course). So when I'm using Google Reader, the back button is at bottom left, and the "Up to category list" button is at top left. Really slows things down.
Am I the only one annoyed by this? Is there a fix short of a new ROM?
A rom may allow you to swap the buttons around. It doesnt bother me I hold my phone in my left hand a lot.
That was a big reason why I decided to root and go to an AOKP rom. Back button on the right side now and I'm so much happier.
It bothered me at first when moving from a Galaxy S (back on right side) to the Galaxy Nexus (back on left side). Got used to it after about a month though.
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Never noticed! But I prefer to get rid of them for the screen real estate.
It's more of a design choice rather than a pragmatic decision. Back on the left makes more sense. Some apps move the screen to the right when they go back, so tapping back on the left side and having the screen goes left makes sense thematically. I came from a Galaxy S which also had a right-side back button, and I have accustomed myself to the left-side back button with little effort. It fits the flow of apps better.
However, I'm strongly against the removal of the Search button that started in 3.x. I used Search for many apps, and it was an amazing shortcut. Fullscreen browser? Press search and you got access to the URL bar. Looking for a contact? Search button. Want to do a search in a file explorer? There's a familiar button for that. Recents should have stayed as a long press of the Home button.
Hung0702 said:
It's more of a design choice rather than a pragmatic decision. Back on the left makes more sense. Some apps move the screen to the right when they go back, so tapping back on the left side and having the screen goes left makes sense thematically. I came from a Galaxy S which also had a right-side back button, and I have accustomed myself to the left-side back button with little effort. It fits the flow of apps better.
However, I'm strongly against the removal of the Search button that started in 3.x. I used Search for many apps, and it was an amazing shortcut. Fullscreen browser? Press search and you got access to the URL bar. Looking for a contact? Search button. Want to do a search in a file explorer? There's a familiar button for that. Recents should have stayed as a long press of the Home button.
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I disagree with long press on home as recents. Many android noobs didn't even know there was a a "alt tab" in Android until they've heard it from someone or was told by someone.
It's more intuitive when theres a recents button. As far as search, it's supposed to be on the top right of an app same with the legacy menu. On contacts, its on the bottom left.
IMO they should go back to the 4 capacitive buttons. Menu, Home, Back, Search. There was NOTHING wrong with this setup. Search was arguably the weakest one but with Google now, I'd say it's just as important as the rest of them. I get the fact that not all apps will have Menu, but Home and Back are just about universal, and Menu is used quite a bit too. The capacitive buttons free up screen real-estate too. I don't like styling things just for style's sake.
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IMO they should go back to the 4 capacitive buttons. Menu, Home, Back, Search. There was NOTHING wrong with this setup. Search was arguably the weakest one but with Google now, I'd say it's just as important as the rest of them. I get the fact that not all apps will have Menu, but Home and Back are just about universal, and Menu is used quite a bit too. The capacitive buttons free up screen real-estate too. I don't like styling things just for style's sake.
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That's the app's fault for not implementing the menu button on their app, regardless you have the legacy menu button the bottom right.
If you don't like it then install a custom ROM and change the navigation bar to your liking. It's simple as that, no reason to debate about this and how it should be on stock android.
zephiK said:
That's the app's fault for not implementing the menu button on their app, regardless you have the legacy menu button the bottom right.
If you don't like it then install a custom ROM and change the navigation bar to your liking. It's simple as that, no reason to debate about this and how it should be on stock android.
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I have, and I like my current setup (Menu, Home, Back). I'm just saying that I'd rather have the 4 capacitive buttons back.
zephiK said:
I disagree with long press on home as recents. Many android noobs didn't even know there was a a "alt tab" in Android until they've heard it from someone or was told by someone.
It's more intuitive when theres a recents button. As far as search, it's supposed to be on the top right of an app same with the legacy menu. On contacts, its on the bottom left.
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If only recents was actually comparable to Windows' Alt+tab. As it is, recents is no more useful to me than it was in Gingerbread
The best button choice for me would have been, in the order, BACK, HOME, MENU. You need to go to settings? Just press the "menu" button. Need to open recent apps? Just press and hold the "home" button. Simple as that.
It was all so much more consistent when the menu button was integrated in the system. Now you have to go and look for it in a place that differs from app to app... jeez, I feel like I'm holding an iPhone.
No menu and a dedicated, invasive multitasking app is a double step backwards for me.
SkippyFlipjack said:
Just got the N4 yesterday and love it but for one really irksome thing -- that the back button, which I use a lot, is on the left while the "running apps" button, which I don't, is on the right. It's a big phone so having stuff as near as possible to the bottom right-hand corner is key to one-handed operation (for righties, of course). So when I'm using Google Reader, the back button is at bottom left, and the "Up to category list" button is at top left. Really slows things down.
Am I the only one annoyed by this? Is there a fix short of a new ROM?
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That's how us lefty's feel living in a right handed world
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Hung0702 said:
It's more of a design choice rather than a pragmatic decision. Back on the left makes more sense. Some apps move the screen to the right when they go back, so tapping back on the left side and having the screen goes left makes sense thematically. I came from a Galaxy S which also had a right-side back button, and I have accustomed myself to the left-side back button with little effort. It fits the flow of apps better.
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I agree that design-wise it makes sense; the aesthete in me would take issue with a left-facing arrow button sitting on the right side, which sort of looks like it's telling you to press the button in the middle. I just think that these larger phones should design where possible for one-handed operation (and have a lefty mode too!)
note: by 'one-handed operation' no, I don't mean I'm watching porn
HTC One just features 2 buttons i.e HOME and BACK no MENU key. Obviously menu key is not required by many apps on holo interface it is somewhat useful in certain apps.
Htc one will utilize the home key long press for menu. Initially it will be frustrating but once getting used to it wont make you feel awkward
Multitasking comes by DOUBLE TAPPING the home key. This is great i think users will find it great once they actually start using device.
Though you can change the button behaviour from settings just like htc one x so dont worry 2 buttons are enough for every task easily
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1. Can I still slide along the notification bar to change brightness? I recall loving this in my old Captivate. CyanogenMod adopted this feature later on.
2. Can I customize what the soft buttons do? CM10 on Galaxy S3 was completely customizable (i.e. button press vs double tap vs long press).
Can Touchwiz customize any of this in stock?
My ideal button behavior is:
long press menu= recent apps
long press home button= voice search
double tap home button= disabled (i.e. just takes you home like a single press, no lag)
switters1 said:
1. Can I still slide along the notification bar to change brightness? I recall loving this in my old Captivate. CyanogenMod adopted this feature later on.
2. Can I customize what the soft buttons do? CM10 on Galaxy S3 was completely customizable (i.e. button press vs double tap vs long press).
Can Touchwiz customize any of this in stock?
My ideal button behavior is:
long press menu= recent apps
long press home button= voice search
double tap home button= disabled (i.e. just takes you home like a single press, no lag)
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1. Not on current TouchWiz. U would need custom mods for that.
2. Not on current TouchWiz. U might want to try out Nova Launcher. It lets you customize actions for those buttons. As far as the lag in home button, you can disable this in S Voice in settings. Once you do that there is no lag when you press Home button.
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