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AT&T Note II - post release date and where to buy information

This is what is of particular interest to some of us. Please post information relevant to just the upcoming US AT&T version.
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i hoping note2 release the same day as idiotphone5.
att always release multi phones on the same day!

What I want to know is if there is any difference between the att note and the International note. Doesn't seem like it so far.
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ChodTheWacko said:
What I want to know is if there is any difference between the att note and the International note. Doesn't seem like it so far.
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it has an lte radio.

I think he was referring to whether it was gonna keep the exynos quad.
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Supposedly it will still have quad core & 2 megs ram with LTE. Gonna be a monster. My next phone for sure.
The only thing that bothers me is that I have not seen the FCC reports but usually come out before a phone is released...
But I haven't been following it as closely as I was with the note 1...
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It looks like the days of Qualcomm-based mutant derpbeasts are over.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/samsung...ipset-shows-up-in-korean-galaxy-s3/16442.html
There is finally an LTE/GSM dual-mode modem available from someone other than Qualcomm.
People have occasionally said "the Exynos 4 Quad isn't compatible with LTE" - This is false. Nothing in the CPU makes it incompatible/compatible - the only issue was that until recently, Qualcomm was the only company that had LTE/GSM combo basebands available, and Qualcomm won't sell their modems to someone not using their CPU.
A non-Qualcomm baseband chip changes everything.
I probably should've noticed this long ago - but CMC221 references have been cropping up in Samsung's source releases for a while now.
Edit: CMC221 seems to be an older chipset, there's a lot of conflicting info on exactly what is going on. Either way, it looks like Samsung now has access to SOME sort of baseband chipset that isn't from Qualcomm, OR Qualcomm has changed policies and is now selling LTE basebands that can be paired with non-Qcom CPUs.

Entropy512 said:
It looks like the days of Qualcomm-based mutant derpbeasts are over.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/samsung...ipset-shows-up-in-korean-galaxy-s3/16442.html
There is finally an LTE/GSM dual-mode modem available from someone other than Qualcomm.
People have occasionally said "the Exynos 4 Quad isn't compatible with LTE" - This is false. Nothing in the CPU makes it incompatible/compatible - the only issue was that until recently, Qualcomm was the only company that had LTE/GSM combo basebands available, and Qualcomm won't sell their modems to someone not using their CPU.
A non-Qualcomm baseband chip changes everything.
I probably should've noticed this long ago - but CMC221 references have been cropping up in Samsung's source releases for a while now.
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Nice...does this mean you're jumping on this phone?
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Artimus009 said:
Nice...does this mean you're jumping on this phone?
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Unknown. I need to do a lot of research. I've been really angry with AT&T's handling of Samsung devices, to the point where my plan until today was to ditch them for Straight Talk combined with international unlocked devices when my contract was up.
Nonmutilated LTE devices might change this... I'm still not sure, it still remains to be seen whether this new generation of LTE chips doesn't have the severe battery life penalties older LTE implementations did. Also, I'm not eligible for an upgrade until February and I really don't want to give the asshats at AT&T money for a full-price device just for a feature I likely won't use.
If ONLY the AT&T variant is capable of AT&T LTE - Maybe (I live in the boonies, I won't see LTE for a long time)
If the international variant supports the AT&T LTE bands - Hell no for the AT&T variant (say no to unjustified carrier mangling), possibly for the international variant.

Cant wait to see whats up with this on att! Glad i have an upgrade. If it is guad i will give my mom my s3!
MARBLE WHITE GALAXY SIII

fleurdelisxliv said:
Cant wait to see whats up with this on att! Glad i have an upgrade. If it is guad i will give my mom my s3!
MARBLE WHITE GALAXY SIII
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same. I have a SGS2 with a cracked screen. At&t already said they will allow me to use my wife's upgrade, but i don't know if i want to wait for the N2....but maybe i should. I almost jumped on the S3 this weekend, but i didn't. I had my reservations about the rediculousness of using the Note as a phone, but then again, i've made probably 2 calls on my S2 in 10 months. So I may have answered my own question.

Can we stick to some useful posts on when the device is coming out not whether people want it..?
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coldblooded79 said:
I think he was referring to whether it was gonna keep the exynos quad.
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Current rumors indicate it has the quad.
They appear 'hardware equivalent' enough that I wonder if you can flash international ROMS onto it.
I guess that's a pipe dream though, since it has a different model #, implying different hardware somewhere.
The N7000 was fun that you could flash different country's roms onto it - less waiting for new features.
I guess at this point I guess it'll mainly depend on when it gets released to AT&T.
- Frank

ChodTheWacko said:
Current rumors indicate it has the quad.
They appear 'hardware equivalent' enough that I wonder if you can flash international ROMS onto it.
I guess that's a pipe dream though, since it has a different model #, implying different hardware somewhere.
The N7000 was fun that you could flash different country's roms onto it - less waiting for new features.
I guess at this point I guess it'll mainly depend on when it gets released to AT&T.
- Frank
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I know and remember when I had my gs2, due to the similarities with the international, we could flash international rooms through hell raising. I'm sure it'll be the same, and come on entropy....you know you want it.....we want you.
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Edit:looks like posted in the wrong thread...

ChodTheWacko said:
Current rumors indicate it has the quad.
They appear 'hardware equivalent' enough that I wonder if you can flash international ROMS onto it.
I guess that's a pipe dream though, since it has a different model #, implying different hardware somewhere.
The N7000 was fun that you could flash different country's roms onto it - less waiting for new features.
I guess at this point I guess it'll mainly depend on when it gets released to AT&T.
- Frank
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It may be similar enough to only require a porting package.
For example, these were the differences between the SGH-I777 and GT-I9100:
I777 had a different call audio interface to the modem - I9100 modems and kernels would not work, but only a few kernel changes were needed to fix the kernel side of things.
I777 had a different microphone configuration - Swapping libaudio out would fix this initially, with ICS I reverse engineered it to the point where only a kernel change was needed
I777 had NFC - If you didn't mind it not working (note: did not work on I777 firmwares ANYWAY), didn't need to do anything when flashing an I9100 firmware. Actually, thanks to the I9100P it was easier to get NFC working on I9100 ports than I777 bases...
I777 had the typical USA touchkey configuration - needed a small kernel change and a keylayout change
The above meant that it was possible to develop a nearly universal porting tool for all Gingerbread firmwares, and once ICS kernel source was released, same for ICS firmwares. The main disadvantage was you couldn't do anything with I9100 leaks - kernel source was required.
CDMA users will be screwed - too many differences for a GSM firmware to ever have any hope of being cleanly ported to a CDMA device. (Exception being AOSP bringups.)

ekerbuddyeker said:
Can we stick to some useful posts on when the device is coming out not whether people want it..?
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Party pooper.

TheSkinnyDrummer said:
same. I have a SGS2 with a cracked screen. At&t already said they will allow me to use my wife's upgrade, but i don't know if i want to wait for the N2....but maybe i should. I almost jumped on the S3 this weekend, but i didn't. I had my reservations about the rediculousness of using the Note as a phone, but then again, i've made probably 2 calls on my S2 in 10 months. So I may have answered my own question.
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yea just wait its gona be awesome i have the s3 now but i will def jump on the note 2 bandwagon
ekerbuddyeker said:
Can we stick to some useful posts on when the device is coming out not whether people want it..?
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it will come out when it hits your local att store

Here is some information that looks good.
http://www.techspot.com/news/50091-...2-coming-to-all-major-carriers-in-the-us.html

Galaxy Note II reported to arrive at AT&T on October 21
As the Title say's - Galaxy Note II reported to arrive at AT&T on October 21 -- [Android Guys]
PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE ANY LONGER.

Is it true Exynos phones will have smaller community vs snapdragon??

Someone had mention this to me so I figure I ask. Selling my S3 in order to get either an S4 or HTC One. I love the ONE but ifix just said its impossible to repair. Feel like I am force to get an S4 because of its generous and gorgeous features over a very nice looking phone like the HTC ONE.
Do you guys believe is worth getting Exynos over the Snapdragon and sacrificing LTE?
I'm on TMOBIL so ideally I would love to have the latest and greatest but at the same time I would like the LTE feature. What are your thoughts on it?
I wish the video recorder had a wide angle like the HTC One and even the S3.

F9zSlavik said:
Someone had mention this to me so I figure I ask. Selling my S3 in order to get either an S4 or HTC One. I love the ONE but ifix just said its impossible to repair. Feel like I am force to get an S4 because of its generous and gorgeous features over a very nice looking phone like the HTC ONE.
Do you guys believe is worth getting Exynos over the Snapdragon and sacrificing LTE?
I'm on TMOBIL so ideally I would love to have the latest and greatest but at the same time I would like the LTE feature. What are your thoughts on it?
I wish the video recorder had a wide angle like the HTC One and even the S3.
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There will be Exynos OctaCore with LTE
like S III QuadCore with LTE
however Samsung confirm it for some regions like S.Korea
So u can buy it and enjoy
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Samsung said 70% of the first 10 million galaxy S4 will be S600 proc because of some problems in Exynos production ...

Roms were interchangeable between all the American snapdragon S4 with a few tweaks by devs.
Most likely it will be the same case with all the sd600 Roms. So development will be easier.
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Wel if we looked at the the locations of SD600 launches we can see that SD600 is going to places where a larger portion of the developers are. In fact almost the whole of europe is getting the SD600. Not to mention the possibility of US also using SD600. So we are looking at a significant difference in user proportions and developer support tend to also follow the trend linearly.
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In a short answer is yes it will be more popular as 70% is getting quadcore.

mix1987 said:
Wel if we looked at the the locations of SD600 launches we can see that SD600 is going to places where a larger portion of the developers are. In fact almost the whole of europe is getting the SD600. Not to mention the possibility of US also using SD600. So we are looking at a significant difference in user proportions and developer support tend to also follow the trend linearly.
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70% of the population is getting the Snapdragon, and many of the developers who worked with Exynos in the past got sick of it and are absolutely not getting another Exynos device, and most of us are ditching Samsung overall.
I only know of one developer (AndreiLux) who is confirmed to be getting an Exynos variant so far.

Didn't CM say that they would not support Exynos processors? That should say something in itself.
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Fu5ion said:
Didn't CM say that they would not support Exynos processors? That should say something in itself.
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No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.

Entropy512 said:
No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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Thanks for clarifying. What do you expect from the vzw version?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2200908

Fu5ion said:
Thanks for clarifying. What do you expect from the vzw version?
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Who knows. The CDMA guys are always in their own land. I'm not sure if sbrissen did any work with the Qcom-based GS3s.
I think some of the guys who do work on d2vzw and d2spr are semi-interested, however, at least some of them are questioning whether they can justify a device purchase already, and most of them are (like myself) not fans of user donations.
There's also the fact that with each iteration, Samsung is getting much better at locking down Verizon devices. Don't count on this next iteration getting cracked rapidly.

Entropy512 said:
No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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So your suggesting that we or I stick with a SD600? I hear a lot about how displeased people are about previous Exynos. I don't know much about the history but you make it osund like it was a real pain in the ass.
And why would people want to leave samsung phones? You say for not having a Qalc variant. You mean an 8 core Qualc?

True.

F9zSlavik said:
So your suggesting that we or I stick with a SD600? I hear a lot about how displeased people are about previous Exynos. I don't know much about the history but you make it osund like it was a real pain in the ass.
And why would people want to leave samsung phones? You say for not having a Qalc variant. You mean an 8 core Qualc?
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It is a real pain to deal with when you don't have proper documentation to work with. Add in the fact that Samsung flat out lied to devs and you have why they are willing to leave the OEM. To be honest I think in the end most devs will end up on the nexus so they don't have to deal with closed source BS from the OEMs. How many cores the device has is not really a problem as it doesn't effect alot. I have had both of the S3 and they run the same. Mix in the fact that the extra 4 cores won't do anything for performance and android is not really able to take advantage of them. Muti level threading on android is still not up to par for anything other then a dual core device.
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Entropy512 said:
70% of the population is getting the Snapdragon, and many of the developers who worked with Exynos in the past got sick of it and are absolutely not getting another Exynos device, and most of us are ditching Samsung overall.
I only know of one developer (AndreiLux) who is confirmed to be getting an Exynos variant so far.
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Thats an interesting point, to where are the majority of the Developers moving to do you know? I've actually just got the HTC One but i'm really tempted to get the S4, as i've come across a few speed bumps that for me are a bit annoying.
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To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
Even if they bring out the Octa to the masses, chances are development will be so far ahead with the snapdragon then it'll be pointless getting it.

dladz said:
Thats an interesting point, to where are the majority of the Developers moving to do you know? I've actually just got the HTC One but i'm really tempted to get the S4, as i've come across a few speed bumps that for me are a bit annoying.
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To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
Even if they bring out the Octa to the masses, chances are development will be so far ahead with the snapdragon then it'll be pointless getting it.
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They already moved to Xperia Z
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Do you lose Samsung specific features like finger hovering if you use AOSP roms like CM?

GTRagnarok said:
Do you lose Samsung specific features like finger hovering if you use AOSP roms like CM?
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Yes you lose all Samsung features

dladz said:
To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
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Wont matter as Samsung refuses to release proper documentation on any Exynos chip. So even if every samsung had the same chip development would be slow going.

[Q] Exynos / SD600 choice within the UK?

Hi guys,
I'm afraid people will consider this a re-hash of existing threads however I haven't seen one specific to the UK and have a few questions to ask.
I currently have an i9305 but when I previously owned an i9300 I noticed that development was done more Europe than America due to your differences in handsets due to carriers.
Are there going to be differences between the i9500 and the i9505 in terms of dev support towards the UK?
As in, the i9505 will most probably have more developer support as Snapdragon source code is available (?) and so an actual stable ROM could be released, and also LTE is very popular now.
But would the developers in the U.S create ROMS that would work on the UK varient?
The reason I ask is because I love the SG3 but have grown disgusted by TouchWiz now and I don't care for the gimmicky TW features in the S4, I just like the horsepower it's packing bundled with that display and battery. CM10.1 on my SG3 has alleviated my disgust for TW which was held at bay through Nova launcher but inevitably got more and more irritating.
I was thinking to wait for the new Nexus, but that could be a while and could be underwhelming, and since they tend to be a lot cheaper I figure if it does come out and is amazing then I could probably sell the SG4 and have money left over after buying the new Nexus.
Also, on a side-note, is anyone in the UK planning on importing an Exynos varient? To me the lack of dev support and LTE for -slightly- better noticeable performance and potentially slightly better battery life isn't enough to justify it.
Cheers

There is a thread for UK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191766
Official Ireland/UK Galaxy S4 Thread
But to answer your query. The UK is getting the same i9505 as the US. This time most of western Europe is not getting the Exynos (i9500). Asia and Eastern Europe seem to be getting it this time. Which is annoying as I want the Exynos version personally.
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skibadee said:
There is a thread for UK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191766
Official Ireland/UK Galaxy S4 Thread
But to answer your query. The UK is getting the same i9505 as the US. This time most of western Europe is not getting the Exynos (i9500). Asia and Eastern Europe seem to be getting it this time. Which is annoying as I want the Exynos version personally.
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Ok that's cool, to be honest I am happy enough with my S3 I could wait for an Exynos LTE release since I am buying SIM-free anyway, but again for me developer support is really important so I think I'm better off with the Snapdragon varient, and let's be honest, the specs are still amazing.

Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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Fu5ion said:
Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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Why you buy 4 cores when you haw 8 cores??
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Fu5ion said:
Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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duh, audio chip beats the bottom of 4 core

First 70% release of S4 will be Snapdragon version,so all Europe will have Snapdragon and the devs will support it more for this and because of the open source.Also every developer who work with Exynos sick of it and i don't think he will prefer it again easly.So if you need suport go with the Snapdragon version,and yes the specs is still amazing!

[Q] Confused - I9500 or I9505

Been reading a lot about their differences and still can't get a clue as which one to buy. Its been more than a month since S4 is released and generally speaking, I am looking to buy S4 not specifically to use 4G, but for general use, mostly apps, a few games (not a hardcore mobile gamer) and also interesting mods.
The other day I came across a game for android specially mentioning it will work only in Adreno GPU. This quite surprised and confused me as to if in future, apps and games will be customised based on CPU/GPU?
Provided the issues that have been reported, mainly the overheating and battery drain, is it wise to wait for a month or two so that Samsung release a second production batch of S4 with these issues fixed? Or there won't any hardware fixes for S4 anymore?
So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.

GreenXSI said:
Been reading a lot about their differences and still can't get a clue as which one to buy. Its been more than a month since S4 is released and generally speaking, I am looking to buy S4 not specifically to use 4G, but for general use, mostly apps, a few games (not a hardcore mobile gamer) and also interesting mods.
The other day I came across a game for android specially mentioning it will work only in Adreno GPU. This quite surprised and confused me as to if in future, apps and games will be customised based on CPU/GPU?
Provided the issues that have been reported, mainly the overheating and battery drain, is it wise to wait for a month or two so that Samsung release a second production batch of S4 with these issues fixed? Or there won't any hardware fixes for S4 anymore?
So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.
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there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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negrobembon said:
there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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Snapdragon 800? Didn't hear of that until now, thanks for the info Now that is really worth a wait, but for how long

negrobembon said:
there are 2 more versions of the S4 coming soon i think
the google edition and the snapdragon 800, maybe you could wait for those
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Don't wait for those, the S5 will be out next year!!
Wait for that instead.
Come on this is ridiculous!
The S4 is a great phone, there will always be better phones just around the corner so just go for the S4.
Either version is good. If you need help making up your mind read one of the hundred threads already on xda about this.

GreenXSI said:
So which model has a better future? (leaving the 4G part).
Hope I get a reply as I am sure the highly knowledgeable and vast users of this forum can help ease my confusion.
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i9505. Two words, developer support. Oh and 4G LOL
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Is there 4g on tmobile?
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Obagleyfreer said:
Don't wait for those, the S5 will be out next year!!
Wait for that instead.
Come on this is ridiculous!
The S4 is a great phone, there will always be better phones just around the corner so just go for the S4.
Either version is good. If you need help making up your mind read one of the hundred threads already on xda about this.
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Well, I only planning to buy an S4 and only confused due to different models in S4. And if the Snapdragon 800 model is going to be out in say 2 months or less, I guess its worth the wait?
P.S. No time to wait until S5 launches

Exynos vs snspdragon

So from the benchmarks I have seen online for the note 3 it looks like the exynos versions of the device is slightly faster not by much. I am happy to see the exynos wifi version will at least be able to keep up with the snap dragon version.
First photo is the exynos variant with a score of 34546
The second photo is the snapdragon variant with a score of 33814
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I'm glad the Exynos version is coming here as i'm not falling into the snapdragon hype... Wait until they update those kernels for true 8 core. Team Samsung!

Itchiee said:
I'm glad the Exynos version is coming here as i'm not falling into the snapdragon hype... Wait until they update those kernels for true 8 core. Team Samsung!
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I think the real reason people don't like the exynos is that Samsung is not very forthcoming when it comes to releasing the relevant information for building custom kernels and roms, considering that Samsung has already released the source code for this device, it shows real promise
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Yes, that is one of the reasons. For me I don't change the ROM's on these newer Samsung(s) since you kinda defeat the purpose of the device.
Why install CM on my Note 2 then I lose the S Pen features, the multi tasking...Etc.
And yes I think Samsung is trying to correct itself since it wants to be the major player in the Android world.

I don't see myself going AOSP unless someone integrates some s-pen extra features. Have aosp roms's done this in the past? this will be my first Note.

smac7 said:
I don't see myself going AOSP unless someone integrates some s-pen extra features. Have aosp roms's done this in the past? this will be my first Note.
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Not that I have ever come across unless it was one of those hybrid roms.
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ckavvouras said:
Not that I have ever come across unless it was one of those hybrid roms.
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Are there touchwhiz based ROMs? (somebody mentioned is somewhere) Would that mean that those ROMs still have the S-Pen functionnality?

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Are there touchwhiz based ROMs? (somebody mentioned is somewhere) Would that mean that those ROMs still have the S-Pen functionnality?
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Yes there are on other samsung devices, I don't see this one being any different

The_Maverick said:
Are there touchwhiz based ROMs? (somebody mentioned is somewhere) Would that mean that those ROMs still have the S-Pen functionnality?
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Most tw based rom have all spen functionality in them, most of them just include minor tweek, kernels and debloated. Other then that most functionality remains the same.
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ckavvouras said:
Most tw based rom have all spen functionality in them, most of them just include minor tweek, kernels and debloated. Other then that most functionality remains the same.
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Thats cool, thanks. I was never sure that that existed (I've never owned a non-nexus device). Does the problem with dev-ability with Exynos devices also exist with TW ROMs? Or can the devs just tweak the stock image of the device?

Exynos to improve
ckavvouras said:
So from the benchmarks I have seen online for the note 3 it looks like the exynos versions of the device is slightly faster not by much. I am happy to see the exynos wifi version will at least be able to keep up with the snap dragon version.
First photo is the exynos variant with a score of 34546
The second photo is the snapdragon variant with a score of 33814
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Here is another reason to get the Exynos over the snapdragon. It will use all 8 cores at one very soon.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/09/samsungs-exynos-5-octa-hmp/
What do you think the benchmarks will look like after the change in software!

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Thats cool, thanks. I was never sure that that existed (I've never owned a non-nexus device). Does the problem with dev-ability with Exynos devices also exist with TW ROMs? Or can the devs just tweak the stock image of the device?
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Not really sure how they have done it in the past but overall they have released very stable and roms that preform better then stock in some benchmarks
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in terms of CPU both are fairly close, what i'm interested in is GPU, so far the Adreno 330 is advancing on the Mali T628, but that's on 1080P 5.7" screen, maybe that will change with 10.1" 2560x1600 screen

Mashari_F said:
in terms of CPU both are fairly close, what i'm interested in is GPU, so far the Adreno 330 is advancing on the Mali T628, but that's on 1080P 5.7" screen, maybe that will change with 10.1" 2560x1600 screen
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Well I don't think screen size really matter it's more how many pixels need to be pushed. Pound for pound I think the adreno will do better when it comes down to it but I'm glad to see overall performance is about the same. I have no doubt that both devices will have no problem chewing and spitting out any of the most recent games.
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I own two Exynos devices the galaxy 7.7 and note 2 both have had their respective source code released. Where do people come off thinking Samsung is not forthcoming about the Exynos chips?

it's not the source code that anyone's worried about, but the fuse burning. once the fuse is blown the bootloader becomes locked. it takes a lot more work to root and pretty much impossible to install a custom recovery without having to possibly do a hardware mod.

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it's not the source code that anyone's worried about, but the fuse burning. once the fuse is blown the bootloader becomes locked. it takes a lot more work to root and pretty much impossible to install a custom recovery without having to possibly do a hardware mod.
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Link to this issue? Never heard of a bootloader having a "fuse."

Diogenes5 said:
Link to this issue? Never heard of a bootloader having a "fuse."
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I believe its called an eFuse.

Just a heads up having all 8 cores running at the same time sounds good but may have heat issues
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it's happened to the verizon s4 with the latest firmware update. i beleive someone said the verizon s3 had it done, but some one got a leaked signed code to get around the blown fuse.