Non removable batter + need to do battery pull? - One (M7) General

Anyone who has done much flashing of custom roms knows that every once in a while, you gotta pull the battery to stop bootloops or other nonsense. What do you do in the case of having a non-removable battery? I've been wondering this for a little while ha

Long press power is like disconnecting the battery.
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jrun said:
Anyone who has done much flashing of custom roms knows that every once in a while, you gotta pull the battery to stop bootloops or other nonsense. What do you do in the case of having a non-removable battery? I've been wondering this for a little while ha
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well the ONEX has an unremovable battery too so you just hold the power button for 10 seconds and it will restart as if you pulled the battery, so i think the ONE will be the same

Awesome, thanks guys

IMO, thats better than a battery pull. How often have you had a nice case on your frozen phone. It's a 5 second battery pull that turned into a nice 1-2 minute hassle. This is awesome when your on a time constraint and busy at the same time.
After seeing the information from the S4, I am happy to say the HTC One will be my next phone when it is released.

Seriously, even with Sammys just holding power is better then a battery pull.
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Basil3 said:
Seriously, even with Sammys just holding power is better then a battery pull.
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Word, basically why I am not fretting over the battery situation anymore.
I haven't had my s3 battery out in months and been through 2 OTA updates as well. Just reset phone, done.
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***For those who are experiencing freeze ups***

Hello people, I thought I would inform you all of a much better and effective method to deal with your phone freezing. Many of us are using custom kernels such as nemesis2all's OTB or imnuts peanut butter jelly time in which have a tendency to freeze our phones due to the overclocking/undervolting. Or, we are on JT's new CM7 mtd or Andmer's GB MIUI and our screens will turn off and nothing that we do will turn them back on. The natural reaction to this occurrence is to take the back off the phone and pull the battery out. But, this is not good for it to be abruptly pulled in the midst of supplying power to your phone. Not to mention the severe battery drain that comes along with doing this, as I'm sure many of you have already noticed to be the case. No matter what rom/kernel you are on and no matter how frozen your phone is, if you simply hold both the volume up and volume down buttons and the power button at the same time for about 10 seconds, your phone will do a hard reboot. Problem solved without doing harm or damage to your phone and without excessive battery drain. This method even works for CM7 MTD/GB MIUI MTD. This is not the same thing as the three finger method that you are warned not to do with these roms. This method will lead to overall better battery life and phone life. Not to mention, a lot less frustration.
I think just vol UP + power works, but either way.. it's a useful trick to know!
And especially helpful if you have a case on
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Good to know. I broke my case by taking it off and on so many times. It's still useable but this will prevent further damage, and save me some time.
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elarson006 said:
I think just vol UP + power works, but either way.. it's a useful trick to know!
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+1. This is what I use. Just had to do it this morning as a matter of fact.
elarson006 said:
I think just vol UP + power works, but either way.. it's a useful trick to know!
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Indeed. I never do battery pulls personally.
verizon techs have had me do battery pulls a couple different times lol.
droidstyle said:
verizon techs have had me do battery pulls a couple different times lol.
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Yea, but not while the phone is on and in a frozen state with a steady stream of battery power being supplied to it, I assume. That is very different.
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kidserious said:
Yea, but not while the phone is on and in a frozen state with a steady stream of battery power being supplied to it, I assume. That is very different.
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Power on but not frozen... but I agree its not good to pull battery in frozen state... volume up and power button is what I do in that situation. My SF has only froze two times and that was from overclocking... not very stable over 1200 on the stock rom. Srry hope my last post did not offend, I meant as verizon was dumb for having me pull the battery with power on!
droidstyle said:
Power on but not frozen... but I agree its not good to pull battery in frozen state... volume up and power button is what I do in that situation. My SF has only froze two times and that was from overclocking... not very stable over 1200 on the stock rom. Srry hope my last post did not offend, I meant as verizon was dumb for having me pull the battery with power on!
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No, post was not offensive nor was it was taken that way. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.
landshark68 said:
+1. This is what I use. Just had to do it this morning as a matter of fact.
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It's what I use as well, power+both volume buttons does nothing for me, I think technically power+volume up is a soft reboot, but, it works.
I will use this next time... My phone froze up this morning. I thought I was going to have to pull the battery and just as I was tapping the battery out of the phone I saw the bootlogo. When I put the battery back in my /data was gone. Phone would boot, but there was no data partition. It was toast.
Had to Odin back to stock and start all over. My last Titanium Backup is from more than a month ago. I have a Super Manager backup from ~ a week ago. Will give it a shot.

Terrible battery life

I'm on joelz prime xl 3D r43 and my battery life is horrible. I get and hour everyday and barley using it. When I stare at my battery percentage I can see it goin down ever minute.
Can someone give me tips on how to save battery life or something
Bcuz when I flash Jermains stock its Rom battery life is good again (I get about 3 hours on that)
And there's nothing wrong with my battery or phone
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
I'm on joelz prime xl 3D r43 and my battery life is horrible. I get and hour everyday and barley using it. When I stare at my battery percentage I can see it goin down ever minute.
Can someone give me tips on how to save battery life or something
Bcuz when I flash Jermains stock its Rom battery life is good again (I get about 3 hours on that)
And there's nothing wrong with my battery or phone
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Have you ever dropped your phone in water at all? Maybe you have a bad battery, because those battery stats are worse than even running complete stock. Post all of your info, Hboot, radio, kernel, etc. And hopefully we can help you out with your issue.
Hboot: .92
Kernel: Tinys gingersense 11/19
Radio : 2.15.00.0808
And no never dropped it in water
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that sounds unreasonably bad. I'm on Joelz Prime, too, but I think only up to R40. I doubt there's anything in those last few commits to cause this, though. Try re-flashing, wiping battery stats, and give it a few cycles then reevaluate things. What apps are shown in the "Battery Use" settings menu?
Failing that, could be some hardware issue causing a short or something that's draining things... There have been cases where water or other damage can kill the battery life. Good luck.
I reflashed 3 times and still horrible battery life .
Water never got on my phone .
And in battery use nothing major is running . Except like display, os ect.
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real strange, man... you know anybody else with an Incredible or Evo whose battery you can swap and try for a day?
miketwoms said:
real strange, man... you know anybody else with an Incredible or Evo whose battery you can swap and try for a day?
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I have 3 batterys and they all work the same
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I've been using Joelz XL 4.0r42 for a few days now and I can say battery life is a little worse than 3.9, but not down to 3 hours. I change overnight, disconnect at 7:30am and charge again at 11pm. But that is with 5 or less calls, 10 texts, and emailing only.
Could email be on push? Did you try the power settings under tweak? I have tried normal and performance and see no difference. Someone said that one of the widgets was killing performance in an earlier post (in the PrimeXL thread), maybe the same widget is killing the battery too?
Related question: When should you wipe battery stats? Full charge, almost dead battery, at ROM flashing only?
Alton (Halo 2) said:
I have 3 batterys and they all work the same
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I dunno, then... try leaving it in Airplane mode for a little while, to see if it's something radio, etc.-related. otherwise, something's probably wrong with a hardware element somewhere along the line. I hope you're able to solve the issue.
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Related question: When should you wipe battery stats? Full charge, almost dead battery, at ROM flashing only?
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I've read a tip to do this:
-get battery full before installing ROM
-wipe battery stats and flash new ROM
-Let it settle in, set it up a bit, then fill up the battery again
-go back to Recovery and wipe stats again, while it's full.
I'm not clear on the logic behind it - could be somebody's superstitions - but it's not a difficult step to take in the hopes that it does some good.
there are others who said they run a script at shut down to wipe them every time the phone reboots. Seems like everyone has their little tricks.
This may be a long shot, but my guess would be some kind of internal hardware issue. Maybe there's a problem with the micro USB port and it's not actually fully charging the batteries.
Shut the phone off and charge it till the lights green. And if you want any kind of battery life, sense is not the rom to be on. Especially 3.5.
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Try underclocking it
Try underclocking it. This saves my battery life by a lot!!!
Do you use apps that stay using data? Like a messenger?
Nope
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What apps you have? if you don't mind
Live wallpaper?
Nope
Btw my battery die so much faster with wallpaper its ridiculous
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There are tons of things that effect battery life and tons of things to save battery. Underclocking, undervolting, lengthning time between syncs, increasing wifi scan interval, lowering screen brightness, keeping running services to a minimum. However even with your phone set to max performance settings with all the bells and whistles on, you should still get more than 3 hours out of a charge. If multipul batteries give the same results, i would say its hardware related, or your charger is messed up and its not charging or messing up the batteries.
I wiped battery stats andseeing where that leads me
Right now when I wiped it and I played modern combat 2 for an hour and my percent is 61
So ill say imma get 2 hours out of my batt?
Hey I see progress !
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Lol, pretty much any game you play is going to drain your battery
wayneb02 said:
Lol, pretty much any game you play is going to drain your battery
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Yea ik but usually wen I play that game my battery would be over in 45 mins
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[Q] ROM problem or my battery?

Currently using Stepp_aospX 1.0.0-MR2.
When I'm watching a 30 minute YouTube video, the battery goes down by about 45%. When I turn off the phone and turn it back on, the battery jumps back up about 20-30%. Now I'm wondering if this is a problem with by battery or with the ROM.
Can anyone else get this issue to occur on their phone?
probably the battery, how old is the battery? Any water damage?
THEindian said:
probably the battery, how old is the battery? Any water damage?
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I'm using the same battery the phone came with (bought new 2 years ago). No water damage.
Two years is a lot of time bud, thats the problem right there.. Batteries wear down, imagine how many times that battery has gone from 0% to 100% in the course of 2 years..
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Undiscovered said:
I'm using the same battery the phone came with (bought new 2 years ago). No water damage.
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Yeah, it sounds like you need a new battery. Anker makes great ones, they aren't too expensive, just buy them off of amazon. Before you do that, take out the battery and check for lumps or stuff like that.
Again, there is a 90% change that you just need a new battery
That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.
Undiscovered said:
That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.
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Someone once said to charge the battery to 100% then clear battery stats then drain it down to almost 0% then clear stats again. then charge it back to 100% in one sitting. that helps me sometimes when flashing an old backup and the percentage jumps around after a reboot.
elmagnificado said:
Someone once said to charge the battery to 100% then clear battery stats then drain it down to almost 0% then clear stats again. then charge it back to 100% in one sitting. that helps me sometimes when flashing an old backup and the percentage jumps around after a reboot.
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Thats a placebo. It really doesn't do very much. If you get random battery level jumps, its a sign that you need a new battery
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Undiscovered said:
That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.
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Ive found that a lot of times you can't see it starting to bow, but if you spin it you can tell. If it just spins 90-180* then it's probably ok, but of it spins more than that it's bad. I grab the battery charger + 3 batteres from eBay for under $10. Now I just swap batteries rather than charge the phone.

Question about battery non removable

When my galaxy nexus freezes, nothing works until I do a battery pull
What happens with non removable batteries? Always been my biggest fear, is there a shortcut? Hold down a button?
The are times nothing works but a battery pull for me.
Thanks
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Bigal77 said:
When my galaxy nexus freezes, nothing works until I do a battery pull
What happens with non removable batteries? Always been my biggest fear, is there a shortcut? Hold down a button?
The are times nothing works but a battery pull for me.
Thanks
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It will have hold power button down, much like the Nexus 4/most other phones with non-removable battery.
Like an iPhone you hold Power/Home, etc..
Nothing new don't worry .

Battery Life Discussion

Discuss your battery life here.
Ya sure , the battery life is so awesome I think I don't need to charge it again until May 27th.
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trincisor said:
Ya sure , the battery life is so awesome I think I don't need to charge it again until May 27th.
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Good one
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3000mAH for 2k 5.5 inch
just to make sure this one maybe for korea, usually using 2 batteries so the global g3 will be different
Samscheetah said:
3000mAH for 2k 5.5 inch
just to make sure this one maybe for korea, usually using 2 batteries so the global g3 will be different
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The g pro 2 came with 2 batteries ... maybe they do the same.
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honestly, if they just put a 4000mAh in it, I wouldn't mind if it weren't replaceable. And I seriously doubt with the kind of perfomance/specs its gonna have, anyone would really mind the extra thickness either. Not to mention heft (cough, durability).
It's not how big the tank K is but how much less is sippped from the tank
Nexus 5 so battery is 75% if G2
But battery life on nexus 5 is far less than 75 percentage of G2 albeit having a smaller screen
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Don't forget - with a removable battery, I'll bet some vendor will come out with a 3500+ mAh battery...
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GeodudeFFP said:
Don't forget - with a removable battery, I'll bet some vendor will come out with a 3500+ mAh battery...
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true, tho hopefully LG itself does it, kinda like Samsung did with S3, which I have.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Firs...ery-life-tests-show-promising-results_id56590
more than six hours of screen-on time with 100% brightness, it's really impressive.
jason_jiang said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Firs...ery-life-tests-show-promising-results_id56590
more than six hours of screen-on time with 100% brightness, it's really impressive.
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it looks promising but i would take this article with a grain of salt. I want to see a article or a video with alot of apps and features turned on this reviewed. i believe that would be a real battery review
Still, LG hasn't outed official talk, standby, browsing and video playback times yet, so we can only guesstimate the battery life of the G3 to be pretty good, based on some tangential proof from improvised battery tests that are popping up.
First off, a prototype version of the phone has been put through its paces, and the phone lasted six and a half hours of video playback on a charge, as you can see from the screens on the right. That might seem average, but the test has been done at the screen's*maximumbrightness, which*LG officially pegs at 430 nits, instead of the usual 150 or 200 nits, so the result from standardized routines like our own battery test, are likely to be much higher.*
Also so the test was at basically 2× brightness of a normal screen. ... so at lower brightness it should do very well
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Thanks to the removable battery I couldn't care less about battery life you can always take one or even two with you and go through half a week without ever needing to charge your phone good job LG :good:
I'm sure it will feature some sort of ultra power saving mode just like the S5
frankgreimes said:
Thanks to the removable battery I couldn't care less about battery life you can always take one or even two with you and go through half a week without ever needing to charge your phone good job LG :good:
I'm sure it will feature some sort of ultra power saving mode just like the S5
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Is it really nice to always have a secondary batt and most time having to turn off phone then replace. I quite don't like that and I don't see that very cute at all. Maybe it's how I feel but that for me just seems not right.
jeyd02 said:
Is it really nice to always have a secondary batt and most time having to turn off phone then replace. I quite don't like that and I don't see that very cute at all. Maybe it's how I feel but that for me just seems not right.
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I would totally have taken a 3500mAh stuck battery like in G2(not impossible to remove after some years) instead of 3000mAh removable.
wargreymon89 said:
I would totally have taken a 3500mAh stuck battery like in G2(not impossible to remove after some years) instead of 3000mAh removable.
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How about we first get the phone and test it ourselves?
jeyd02 said:
How about we first get the phone and test it ourselves?
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I never said 3000mAh isnt enough, but 3500mAh would last longer and most people dont run around with an extra battery in their pocket even if they can. Saving 1-2 hours of work to replace a battery like in the G2 after 1-3 years isnt really that much.
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I never said 3000mAh isnt enough, but 3500mAh would last longer and most people dont run around with an extra battery in their pocket even if they can. Saving 1-2 hours of work to replace a battery like in the G2 after 1-3 years isnt really that much.
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Just the same way you are thinking, don't you think that LG thought of that?
jeyd02 said:
Just the same way you are thinking, don't you think that LG thought of that?
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Of course they did, but they are catering to the people who are stuck in the old days when smartphones didnt last as long and batteries died much faster. Sure batteries degrade still, but if they hold longer between the charges and with more improvment it would be years between needing to change it. LG did the right thing with G2, but people arent smart enough to see it, so LG had to go back to the old ways to win the heart of the stuck.
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Of course they did, but they are catering to the people who are stuck in the old days when smartphones didnt last as long and batteries died much faster. Sure batteries degrade still, but if they hold longer between the charges and with more improvment it would be years between needing to change it. LG did the right thing with G2, but people arent smart enough to see it, so LG had to go back to the old ways to win the heart of the stuck.
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Okay, what I'm saying is if they have thought then it'll make no sense for that regard. If so, then the 3000mAh batt along with their Optimization makes it enough to have that battery.
Like for example, there are different desktop power supplies but some of them are different quality. A 3 star 1200w quality desktop supply could be equivalent to a 5 star 800w quality supply.

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