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EXFat is now supported on the SGS3!!! Tip for fast sdcard inside!

So I just seen that the SGS3 supports EXFat and files over 4gb's now. So if you want a really fast SD card, consider formatting from Fat32 over to exfat, and set block size to 16mb or 32mb. I know most if not all my files are 5mb or way over that, so not much space is wasted! I hope that helps someone
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Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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Why on earth would you want a 32 MB block size? Seems like you would end up with a ton of wasted space.

smark72 said:
Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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Well for me I have a lot of movies, huge pictures, music over 7mb. I myself use 16mb. But for people that want full speed from exfat will select 32mb.
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Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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I don't have the phone or Id let you know. I do have my 32gb c10 ready to go when it gets here though
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So would that mean that any files I have under 16mb will in fact take up 16mb of space? Even files that are only a few kb?

Yes. I know it sounds scary, but most small items are stored on the phone sdcard.
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WARNING: Samsung's exFAT driver implementation is buggy!
exFAT is not an open standard. It is MS proprietary. Do not expect it to fully work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27415975&postcount=18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698672&page=2

jnadke said:
WARNING: Samsung's exFAT driver implementation is buggy!
exFAT is not an open standard. It is MS proprietary. Do not expect it to fully work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27415975&postcount=18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698672&page=2
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I didn't read the whole thread. But from what I saw, only 3 people had a problem. And at first he said he copied 1900 files and had corruption, then he states its a problem over 3000. I don't know if this is user error, or what. But thanks for the warning, Ill keep an eye out....... And if that guy was checking file by file for 1900 songs, that's some serious time, I call BS.
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TeamERA said:
I didn't read the whole thread.... , I call BS.
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A bunch of other people were having the same problem too.

jnadke said:
A bunch of other people were having the same problem too.
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It may well be correct, and now I can't wait to find out, damn 32gb PB pre order
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I unloaded my 64gb sd card, put it in the phone and it formatted it to exfat, I copied all my data back to the card and did a restore from mybackup pro, after the restore and reboot I then received a damaged sd card, i'm not sure what's going on, The only 2 options on windows is NTFS and exFat

Performance gain will be nominal. You're talking a phone here, not a database server dealing with heavy iOPS. I have a 64GB Class 10 in mine and performance could not be better. I also had a ***** of a time getting the card to register after I let my PC format it, had to, absolutely had to, let the device format it.
Note: I'm a heavy performance user who goes for maximum battery without overly sacrificing performance. Professionally, I build and configure SAN's for Exchange, SQL and vSphere. I make no claims to being a phone development god (thought about refreshing my skills there but frankly, don't have the time), BUT I'm also VERY good at what I do.
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ILA970JOSH said:
I unloaded my 64gb sd card, put it in the phone and it formatted it to exfat, I copied all my data back to the card and did a restore from mybackup pro, after the restore and reboot I then received a damaged sd card, i'm not sure what's going on, The only 2 options on windows is NTFS and exFat
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Had the same problem. I had no option but to let the phone format it. Delete the partition in windows and then you can format it. If you find another way though, let me know!
Sorry misread your post, I had the same error and had to let it reformat. Did you unplug it and put it into your PC? Were any corrective scans or anything done?

I removed everything back off the card, formatted it to fat32 and copied everything back to it, put it back in the phone and it's still saying it's damaged. Sucks, it's been in my EVO3D for a week now with no problems.

is the extra juice really worth the possibility of data corruption? Im not trying to be a wise guy, just really been wondering myself.

s3xda said:
is the extra juice really worth the possibility of data corruption? Im not trying to be a wise guy, just really been wondering myself.
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Well I must say now I'm worried. But I'm still going to test, I copy huge files to and from on a regular basis, if it saves me 3% in time each time, that is still worth it to me in the long run. I have very little patience, and all that time adds up.
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seems to be working now, I had 8,000 temp files in a MyBackup Pro Directory, Deleted them and now it's working

So if I were to format my 64gb card to exfat and download movies to my phone using adownloader or atorrent, I wouldn't be able to transfer them to my ps3?
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smark72 said:
So if I were to format my 64gb card to exfat and download movies to my phone using adownloader or atorrent, I wouldn't be able to transfer them to my ps3?
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I use xbox lol, I don't know if it would work on ps3.
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TeamERA said:
I use xbox lol, I don't know if it would work on ps3.
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Does it work and show up on the Xbox?
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smark72 said:
Does it work and show up on the Xbox?
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I don't have the phone yet, Ill let you know in here though.
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[Q] Micro SD and Class (and stuffs)?

Sorry but i didnt find a topic about this on NEXUS 7 forum.
A few questions:
1 - Anyone knows if N7 can support all sizes of microSD? (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128..so on)
2 - What the lowest CLASS do i need to play videos without problem?
3 - What the lowest CLASS do i need to play GAMES without problem? (using life02 thread
4 - What about battery consume when using the MicroSD/OTG?
5 - I will post some links and you guys tell me which one should be better or trustble
Option 1 Samsung 32GB Class10
Option 2 Sandisk 32GB Class10
Option 3 Patriot 32GB Class 10
I dont have much money so the first option will always be the best one (Unless some1 tell to forget about)
Thanks You all (Sry bad spelling and gramatic)

The Nexus 7 does NOT have a microSD slot. No expandable memory at all.
EDIT- Oops you mean for OTG? In my experience anything Class 6 or above is fine, Amazon has a class 10 16GB for a good price.

I personally would not use a class 10 for anything other than movies, music, and pictures. They are awful at small random IO.
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rmm200 said:
I personally would not use a class 10 for anything other than movies, music, and pictures. They are awful at small random IO.
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Why? Not disputing you; just trying to learn.

rmm200 said:
I personally would not use a class 10 for anything other than movies, music, and pictures. They are awful at small random IO.
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But would work with a CLASS 4?
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maztahbr said:
But would work with a CLASS 4?
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No, it will not work with ANY SD card.
There is no Micro SD slot.
There is no expandable memory.

Clarkster said:
No, it will not work with ANY SD card.
There is no Micro SD slot.
There is no expandable memory.
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I believe the OP knows that, I think they are looking for a microSD to use with a card reader.

Nospin said:
I believe the OP knows that, I think they are looking for a microSD to use with a card reader.
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Ah, way to make myself look stupid. I wanted to make sure he didn't glance over the posts, since it seemed he only focussed on the speed issue.
And it turns out, I glanced over the OP's post too quickly myself.

Can somebody confirm Nexus 7 can handle a 64GB MicroSD card? Much obliged.

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No, it will not work with ANY SD card.
There is no Micro SD slot.
There is no expandable memory.
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Realy?
I think its implicity talking about micro sd on N7 FORUM means that the otg adapter is include
For those who knows what im talking about any help will be apreciated
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maztahbr said:
Realy?
I think its implicity talking about micro sd on N7 FORUM means that the otg adapter is include
For those who knows what im talking about any help will be apreciated
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Yes, as you can see just above, I already admitted to being an idiot.

Clarkster said:
Yes, as you can see just above, I already admitted to being an idiot.
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Lol, its ok
I just want to know if a class 4 will work nice for movies and games?
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maztahbr said:
Lol, its ok
I just want to know if a class 4 will work nice for movies and games?
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For movies you shouldn't have a problem. Probably okay for games too if it is just the extra asset data. Now getting a game to install on an external SD card is a whole other story, you might need to manually copy it over and create symlinks. Could be a bit of trouble.
When the Nexus was first out I heard there were problems getting apps to see movies on an OTG storage, I think there was a root solution to that, but I am not sure. There might even be a simpler solution since then.
Note: I've not done any of this myself, just basing it on my general knowledge on how Android and Linux works.

Using a cheap OTG cable and a generic SD Card (full size; not micro) Reader, I can play movies just fine. Since full size SD are cheaper per gb than micro, I'm not sure why anyone would want to use micro cards, but whatever floats your boat. My N7 is rooted, but stock. I installed StickMount. All my cards are Class 10 or UHS 1
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Actual storage space for apps etc

I wanna buy a 8gb nexus 4 but I want to know how much of this can I use and how much is taken up by system, some users say about 4gb will be useable for apps etc and the rest is used by system, if so then that sucks
I also like to know would I be able to buy it with my debit card from play store, cause some users wrote that u need credit card
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mohnim said:
I wanna buy a 8gb nexus 4 but I want to know how much of this can I use and how much is taken up by system, some users say about 4gb will be useable for apps etc and the rest is used by system, if so then that sucks
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The Nexus 7 had something like 5.92GB of usable storage. I'd expect the same out of the Nexus 4.

Actual Usable Storage
Hi Guys,
I put together a list of the actual usable internal storage of different phones so that we can compare and see which one has how much. This can be found on:
http://icethreads.com/actual-usable-storage-of-mobile-phones/
Let me know if you found it useful!
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[Q] How much internal storage?

Hi,
I'm planning to buy Nexus 4 but I'm afraid that 16 GB won't be enough for me. So I wanna know exactly how much available space does the 16 GB version have?
Thanks in advance

Guessing around 13 like most devices

I want it exactly

It's kind of hard to know exactly without checking the storage right when you receive the device, but I think roughavoc's estimate is pretty spot on. It might be a little less than 13 depending on apps. For example, my Samsung Vibrant is 16GB running JB, but it has 1.25GB for app space, and 12.76GB for USB storage (general purpose like music and videos).

12.92 GB. Exactly
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B97 said:
12.92 GB. Exactly
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Not enough for me

[Q] out of space?

My wife just got an M as a replacement for her old Rezound. She has had it for about three weeks and the phone is already telling her she is out of internal storage. However, when I look at her storage it appears that only her "Backup ASSISTANCE Plus" is full. It's unfortunately causing her phone to be worthless. Does anyone know how to fix this? Her phone is completely stock. Thanks in advance.
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txkorm said:
My wife just got an M as a replacement for her old Rezound. She has had it for about three weeks and the phone is already telling her she is out of internal storage. However, when I look at her storage it appears that only her "Backup ASSISTANCE Plus" is full. It's unfortunately causing her phone to be worthless. Does anyone know how to fix this? Her phone is completely stock. Thanks in advance.
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couple of tips:
1.) don't use backup assistance - use google to store your contacts
2.) make sure that your camera settings are set to save pics/vids to the mnt/external1 folder (no sdcard in internal storage)

jco23 said:
couple of tips:
1.) don't use backup assistance - use google to store your contacts
2.) make sure that your camera settings are set to save pics/vids to the mnt/external1 folder (no sdcard in internal storage)
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Might also want to disable Backup Assistant in the Application Settings.
Also, clear the cache and make sure that no leftover OTA updates are stored.
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jco23 said:
couple of tips:
1.) don't use backup assistance - use google to store your contacts
2.) make sure that your camera settings are set to save pics/vids to the mnt/external1 folder (no sdcard in internal storage)
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Thanks for the feedback. I tried to disable it but it wouldn't let me. I'll take another look tonight. I don't want to do a hard reset unless I have to but if I can't disable it, I'll have no other choice.
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Conclusion. This phone sucks if you can't put apps on the SD. 8gb internal hard drive is really only 4 gigs.
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txkorm said:
Conclusion. This phone sucks if you can't put apps on the SD. 8gb internal hard drive is really only 4 gigs.
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If you root, you can easily store apps on external. Also, internal is partitioned into 4gb halves. One for the the ROM and the other for media/etc. Personally, I don't understand how people fill that up so quickly. I use very few apps and all my media gets stored to my external SD. I'm still sitting at about 3.5GB available on my storage side.

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If you root, you can easily store apps on external. Also, internal is partitioned into 4gb halves. One for the the ROM and the other for media/etc. Personally, I don't understand how people fill that up so quickly. I use very few apps and all my media gets stored to my external SD. I'm still sitting at about 3.5GB available on my storage side.
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I understand it's portioned but I've never seen a phone require half of its internal storage. As for media, it's all going to her card. I guess if you use few apps your ok, but that's not the case with a 5 year. You shouldn't have to root for a phone to be functional with a relatively low amount of apps in use.
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Her phone....
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txkorm said:
Her phone....
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I've got just over 100 apps. Also, a little more than 1 gig of my internal space is dedicated to music.
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jco23 said:
I've got just over 100 apps. Also, a little more than 1 gig of my internal space is dedicated to music.
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How are you not having the same issue? Very interesting.
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Do you know if the phone was previously rooted? I know that nandroid backups get saved to internal storage if you don't specify and they will eat up the storage space quickly.

calbrs said:
Do you know if the phone was previously rooted? I know that nandroid backups get saved to internal storage if you don't specify and they will eat up the storage space quickly.
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It came straight from Verizon as a replacement phone so all I know is that it's a refurbished phone. I cleaned up the backup assistance so hopefully that will help. I have a theory that triggered the warning and loss of functionality. We'll see. If it pops back up, it's going back to Verizon.
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txkorm said:
How are you not having the same issue? Very interesting.
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gaining root access allowed me to clear out all of the Verizon bloatware.

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gaining root access allowed me to clear out all of the Verizon bloatware.
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Makes sense since this phone is loaded with it. This is our first Motorola smartphone. Is that a Motorola issue with excess bloat? I know all phones have it but this seems like a lot considering the limited amount of internal memory.
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txkorm said:
Makes sense since this phone is loaded with it. This is our first Motorola smartphone. Is that a Motorola issue with excess bloat? I know all phones have it but this seems like a lot considering the limited amount of internal memory.
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bloat is an issue with all Verizon android phones (the bloat helps bring down the costs on the device).
one of the drawbacks to this device is the lack of internal memory. however, the bigger drawback is in the OS that prevents folks from moving apps to their SD Card.
but once I rooted, and installed a "clean ROM", I got a lot more space.
with your wife's phone, I suspect she has the latest OTA baseband (check the phone settings, if the baseband is prior to May 2013, then you are in luck - DO NOT ACCEPT the UPDATE). if the baseband reads May 2013, then your only option is to gain root access and freeze/delete the bloatware.
if space is an issue, I highly recommend to go this route. otherwise, start trimming some of the apps she never uses.