I'm not really a newbie to android, but this G1 is my first HTC phone. I just bought it on eBay for basically nothing. It has no SIM card, and I do not own one. It is running RC30, and to downgrade I have placed the US RC29 on a microSD, in the root, with no other files present on the card. When I put it in the G1 and boot it into bootloader, the gray screen says "No image found." and then it goes back to tricolor and a gray band appears saying "Serial0"
EDIT: I didn't format the SD to FAT32, but now it still won't recognize the file. It goes through the install (the progress bar is full) but then it says UPDATE TERMINATE UPDATE FAIL. And it won't boot to anything but tricolor
PLEASE HELP ME, THIS THREAD HAS HAD NO OTHER REPLIES!!!
Seriously? I've had a bricked phone for over a month, and this thread still has no replies...
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Then your SD is formatted to fat32 or you didn't name the dreaimg.nbh file right, or you didn't put it on root of SD card. Also possible that SD reader is bad and you would then need to replace daughterboard. Really there are lots of reasons why this may not work so you'll need to explain more what you've tried
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Thank you so much for your reply. It is very much appreciated. I have reformatted the card to FAT32, and the package is named correctly. The device recognizes the file, goes through the install (the progress bar is full) and then says
Code:
UPDATE TERMINATE
UPDATE FAIL
Sometimes the progress bar doesn't make it all the way and it interrupts to the error again. I have tried MANY different dreaimg.nbh files, to no avail. I cannot boot to recovery. I cannot boot to system. I have tried making the file DREAIMG.NBH, dreaimg.nbh, DREAIMG.nbh, and dreaimg.NBH. None work. Also, I am 100% sure the file is in the root of the SD card. Thanks again for the reply!
So you can still boot into current os but it fails to downgrade? You may need to make a gold card, also try rc7 instead of rc29
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demkantor said:
So you can still boot into current os but it fails to downgrade? You may need to make a gold card, also try rc7 instead of rc29
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No. I can't boot to system OR downgrade. I'll try RC7, that's a good idea. The problem now is finding my microSD! XD
I'm gonna need to do that before I make a goldcard
EDIT: As soon as I sat up from my computer, I found my microSD. Must be the luck of the Irish! Could you send me to a guide on how to make a gold card? Is there a way I can revive my G1 from a computer, as I have a working installation of linux and a mini USB cable.
To revive it from a computer you would need to JTAG it. Not super easy and you'll need more than a USB cable
Just Google search gold card g1, you should find lots of hits, I think the unlocker even has a video. Not near a computer so I can't send you a link easy
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You have been such a help. I....I love you. (no homo)
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You have been such a help. I....I love you. (no homo)
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I need to be able to boot the system to create a gold card according theunlockr.
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Okay, my Magic has been resurrected from boot loop. Problem is, it will no longer recognize any SD cards. I've tried 4 different cards (3 different brands) and none work.
I'm told that I need to root the phone and load recovery, etc using the gold card method.
Now, I can tell you that Hboot does detect the SD card, as it sees SAPPIMG.ZIP if I put it on there. However, since I can't get my card's CID number because the phone won't detect the card, how can I create a gold card to get through this?
Please help, thanks
1. Wipe all phone, without memory card inside.
2. Use small capacity card and no SDHC type, for exp. 128-512MB.
3. Try to use fastboot mode by ADB, maybe PC cans read CID from card through your phone.
vinamilk said:
1. Wipe all phone, without memory card inside.
2. Use small capacity card and no SDHC type, for exp. 128-512MB.
3. Try to use fastboot mode by ADB, maybe PC cans read CID from card through your phone.
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1. I've tried this, no luck
2. I'll have to dig around to try and find one of these. Going to be hard to find.
3. I've tried with my existing cards (smallest is 1GB. Nothing.
Thanks, I'll give #2 a try if I can find one.
And remember to format it by FAT32 !
vinamilk said:
And remember to format it by FAT32 !
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Yup, I've done that.
The problem isn't with the cards, it's with the phone. These cards worked in the phone in the past.
You got a friend with an Android based phone? If so you can use that one to create the goldcard for your phone.
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DonJuan692006 said:
You got a friend with an Android based phone? If so you can use that one to create the goldcard for your phone.
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A couple of my coworkers do. I'll give it a shot in the office on Monday.
Thanks.
Problem solved!
All I had to do to get access to my SD card again was run this command in fastboot:
"fastboot oem enableqxdm 0"
I'm back up and running, woohoo!!!
So I attempted the OTA 2.2 update and I'm honestly not sure what exactly went wrong. I waited for Verizon to push the update, but apparently the update was corrupted because the OS was acting very sporadic and my Baseband wasn't upgraded because it was (and still is) on 1.x.
I attempted to upgrade the baseband and thing got really strange... I could try to explain everything I've done to try to fix the phone but I really can't come to a solid conclusion. I've worked extensively in the iPhone jailbreaking scene but the Android stuff is a bit different so I'm still learning how the phone is logically designed, etc the hard way.
Here's where I am now:
I cannot boot into recovery via any means... I'm pretty sure that the partition is deleted because it just jumps straight back to HBOOT. When I was still able to get into recovery, the sdcard couldn't mount as well as a few other things in /dev/block. I can't get HBOOT to recognize ANY PB31IMG.zip's nor would clockwork install them from recovery before I lost recover... when I try to flash recovery with fastboot, it says not allowed. I didn't think it would be an issue because I have S-OFF.
I feel like if I can re-flash the newest clockwork or cyanogen from HBOOT, I can then mount my sdcard and restore to 2.1 and then try to OTA again (after a nandroid backup), but I can't really get around HBOOT's permission hissy-fit.
I can't just take my phone back to the verizon store either because I'm in college and have no car and there isn't one nearby.
Any help is appreciated!
crizh4x said:
I can't get HBOOT to recognize ANY PB31IMG.zip's
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One simple thing to check: is your SD card formatted FAT32? If it's the stock 2GB one, then probably not. You need FAT32 to flash PB31IMG.zip...
Yup, if you can get to hboot you're fine, just make sure its formatted correctly as previous poster said.
Hmm ok well, I read that little bit elsewhere and you are completely right, the card was fat16 so I formatted it as fat32 and it still doesn't offer to update the zip... The only thing I can think of is perhaps there was a problem with me having to use my phone as the card reader? I don't really have any other options there and now I can't mount it in recovery to try again.
I have a blackberry 9650 that could act as the reader I suppose... If I can get it to boot without the battery. I somehow had it pulled and left it all the way back home.
Any tips are still appreciated. Thanks guys!
I am not 100% sure this will work but since it sounds like your phone is not bricked but you have issues getting the right files on your SD card...
Card readers for your computer are dirt cheap, no?
Head to Best Buy, pick one up, and then download and transfer the files you need on it over from the computer. Then put the SD card back in your phone, and start over.
I hope someone will chime in if this sounds like a bad idea for some reason...
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I am not 100% sure this will work but since it sounds like your phone is not bricked but you have issues getting the right files on your SD card...
Card readers for your computer are dirt cheap, no?
Head to Best Buy, pick one up, and then download and transfer the files you need on it over from the computer. Then put the SD card back in your phone, and start over.
I hope someone will chime in if this sounds like a bad idea for some reason...
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Or I'm sure one of your friends have a laptop or another smartphone..
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The problem is that I can't easily get to a place that sells MicroSD card readers. If I were so able, I would just go to the Verizon Store and get my unit replaced, as the technicians advised me to do on Twitter.
I need a way to format the SD card from fastboot or something else... perhaps my Blackberry 9650 will do it if it's only getting a charge from the sync cable. I shouldn't have left its battery at home. My mistake
Has anyone else had an issue with formatting it from a phone directly?
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The problem is that I can't easily get to a place that sells MicroSD card readers. If I were so able, I would just go to the Verizon Store and get my unit replaced, as the technicians advised me to do on Twitter.
I need a way to format the SD card from fastboot or something else... perhaps my Blackberry 9650 will do it if it's only getting a charge from the sync cable. I shouldn't have left its battery at home. My mistake
Has anyone else had an issue with formatting it from a phone directly?
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I formatted mine in the phone. FAT32 format is FAT32 format.
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I formatted mine in the phone. FAT32 format is FAT32 format.
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I completely agree.. however I'm unable to get it formatted. One of my suite mates has a Moto Droid so hopefully it can format it and all will be well.
Here's another question though.. Why can't I flash a recovery image via fastboot? I keep getting "writing 'recovery'... FAILED (remote: not allowed)" and I'm using official images with S-OFF set so I don't really see what the problem is. I've searched around quite a lot and can't find much on it. I at least want to be able to boot recovery, or maybe flash the system partition back from hboot via fastboot.
Just curious. Thanks guys!
I had some problems with my SD Card as well (it would not recognize PB31IMG.zip) during hboot, but clockworkmod could read it. I believe there was a problem with the SD Card, kind of wierd to explain, but I replaced it with another SD Card and that problem has gone away. Could be your card is "partially" defective.
this scenario kind of happened to my friends's new incredible. unfortunately he is not rooted nor s-off. After he applied the OTA and rebooted the phone it just FC's after the boot screen animation. I'm hoping that the factory reset/data wipe will fix this thru the stock recovery or hopefully will let me put the signed .zip RUU on the sdcard and flash thru the stock recovery.
Ill let you know how things go, but it seems im in a darker situation than you are as I have no clockwork recovery to play with and get this working.
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I had some problems with my SD Card as well (it would not recognize PB31IMG.zip) during hboot, but clockworkmod could read it. I believe there was a problem with the SD Card, kind of wierd to explain, but I replaced it with another SD Card and that problem has gone away. Could be your card is "partially" defective.
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One of my SD cards is fully defective, but the one from my Blackberry is fine... I just have no means to format it.
And to the poster above me, I don't have recovery anymore since my recovery partition is apparently wiped (my bad ), however I do have S-OFF. It's just all frustrating. Why can't I flash it straight over USB like the iPhone? I miss my beloved DFU Restores with iTunes
You do need to format the SD card to fat 32 and I would do a factory re-set also.
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You do need to format the SD card to fat 32 and I would do a factory re-set also.
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I realize the first bit but the second bit is impossible, check the rest of the thread.
crizh4x said:
One of my SD cards is fully defective, but the one from my Blackberry is fine... I just have no means to format it.
And to the poster above me, I don't have recovery anymore since my recovery partition is apparently wiped (my bad ), however I do have S-OFF. It's just all frustrating. Why can't I flash it straight over USB like the iPhone? I miss my beloved DFU Restores with iTunes
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You realize that you don't need a micro SD reader if you have the full size sd to micro adapter card that comes with almost all micro sd cards...
Also make sure you didn't rename your file PB31IMG.zip.zip. One zip is enough and if it's a zip file, Windows will put the proper extension on automatically.
If you can get into hboot, you're not hosed yet.
douger1957 said:
You realize that you don't need a micro SD reader if you have the full size sd to micro adapter card that comes with almost all micro sd cards...
Also make sure you didn't rename your file PB31IMG.zip.zip. One zip is enough and if it's a zip file, Windows will put the proper extension on automatically.
If you can get into hboot, you're not hosed yet.
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I have read that around... I work on a Mac and I have it setup so that file extensions are always displayed but I was last trying most of these fixes from a Win7 pc that isn't setup that way... the file extensions are hidden but that said, unless I saw "PB31IMG.zip" in explorer, I wouldn't have any issues because there is only one hidden file extension. However, now that most of the people here at my college have gone home for the weekend, I can't verify that =/
I understand that I'm not really hosed... I knew I wasn't bricked, but I'm close and it should get some people to look at this thread just a little bit more. It's a dirty little trick but it works. Hence "potentially"
And yes, I'm aware of the SD adapter thing, if I had one I could just format it through my digital camera... too bad all of my MicroSD cards came with my phones so there is no adapter.
You must be at the only college without a Walmart within walking distance. I hope you get it working, as a new SD card formatted FAT32 should fix you right up - I wouldn't trust your current card given what you've described already.
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You must be at the only college without a Walmart within walking distance. I hope you get it working, as a new SD card formatted FAT32 should fix you right up - I wouldn't trust your current card given what you've described already.
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Much less the only college where you don't have friend or a friend of a friend that has what you need. Much less a resident dorm geek around to ask for help. I'm sure if you ask around someone would have a reader or adapter. Perhaps you will have to use it under their supervision so they make sure it doesn't grow it's own feet, but I'm sure if you asked around.
Hey guys,I am stuck for some time now with the 1.72 OTA and was unable to root.
Some time today I saw jkoljo's post with instructions to downgrade the 1.72 OTA for those who didn't s-off before they applied it.I asked there and I got a kind answer that I should use the PD98IMG.zip provided in jkoljo's first post from a member whose name is unfortunately escaping me right now.However,that didn't seem to be enough.I downloaded the PD98IMG.zip and copied it to my SD card's root folder(I use a 16GB Class 10 Kingston card),I rebooted into bootloader but when it checked for the image it found nothing.So what do I do?
I don't know if anyone has the same problem.Apparently the guide was written for those who hadn't s-off'ed,as jkoljo himself told me,but nothing was written for those of us who did get s-off.Probably it was considered that we knew all well how to downgrade,but that's something I don't do everyday.So if anyone can please guide me on how to do it I'd be very very grateful!
Many thanks guys!And sorry for being a nuisance to some!
as you seem like an experienced user i won't explain certain things i.e. what a gold card is LOL
but here goes,
try using a smaller SD CARD prefebly 4gb formated to fat32. transfer the file again, or redownload that file and transfer?
device branded?create a gold card?
if all fails, download the 1.34 RUU and find the rom.zip in the %temp% folder when you are running it (without the phone connected) not the whole process ofcourse just so it loads the rom.zip file in the temp folder that is done usually after it asks you to connect the phone.
if this is done copy this onto the sd card. re run the hack for the 1.72 and carry on with instructions, then carry on by following original root instructions.
hope to have helped.
peace
Yes try a smaller SD card. An SD card. Not a big ass SDHC.
Ok...I'll try a 4Gb one and see if it works!
And El_Nino9,I am a little experienced,but the fact that I might have a 0,0001% chance of bricking my phone makes me act frickin' stupid!
Anyway,can I do all that without also downgrading my radio?Or will I just have to reupgrade my radio afterwards?(God,I hate radio flashing! )
Thanks!
Well,I tried my freshly formatted 4Gb card(the one that came with my old Desire),I reboot with the PD98IMG.zip in my card's root folder,it goes into bootloader and when it starts searching for the image it says:
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SD Checking. . .
Loading. . . [PD98DIAG.zip]
And stays there like...forever!What da f*ck do I do?I hate it when phones act weird!
Double check that the file name matches exactly what the bootloader is asking for. Linux is case sensitive.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
Download the PD98IMG.zip file again, or exports from RUU ROM utility.
dr.m0x said:
Double check that the file name matches exactly what the bootloader is asking for. Linux is case sensitive.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
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Well,everyone is using the PD98IMG.zip jkoljo provides in his first post along with the downgrading instructions,and I used it too.I didn't modify the name in any way.
Now,although I think that when using my 16Gb card it searches for a PD98IMG.zip,as I stated above,when using my 4gb card it says it searches for a PD98DIAG.zip and then freezes(yes,the bootloader) and I have to pull the battery.
I am redownloading the file now,but I don't think that's what's wrong...
Im sending my phone back to htc so I flashed back a standard rom. I thought this would remove hspl but it didnt now Im ****ting my pants. How do i get it off?
Did you flash stock rom via sd card? That is the only way that flashing a stock rom removes hspl. Otherwise the much simpler method is to rerun HSPL2 and select your original spl (ending in 0000) - assuming you can remember which spl you were on.
how do i flash the rom via sd?
elgrego4 said:
how do i flash the rom via sd?
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Find nbh file of the rom you want, copy to root of sd card and rename it to LEOIMG.nbh, boot into bootloader and follow instructions. If it doesn't pick up the image, try reformatting sd card (preferably a small one ie 2gb) to FAT32 and retry.
Ive renamed the the file but bootloader does nothing, i only have a 16gb sd. I also put the whole rom on the card and selected it using file explorer and now the windows colour dots are just going around in a circle.
Did you copy just the .nbh file from the rom to your sd card and rename that and not the entire exe file? You also won't be able to flash via file explorer.
Seriously though if you can't flash via sd card (bigger sd cards don't alsways work - although my 16gb card does) just do the second and much easier option I gave you above, ie flash the rom via exe as you have done and then run HSPL2 and select your stock spl.
I cant do that cos now windows 7 wont install the bloody drivers lol. Im FUBAR'd
Be careful in your rom selection. This should ALWAYS be stressed when telling people how to do this. It's not simply a case of getting the one you want. You should always try to get the original rom your phone came with, or at a minimum one that the htc site recommends when you enter your country and phone serial. Flashing a bad rom via sd is pretty much the only way to brick your phone. This should not be forgotten or taken for granted.
That said, download the correct rom, rename to leoimg.nbh, stick it on the root of your sd card. Power off phone, insert sd card, hold volume down, press power.
(yeah I know clyde just typed the instructions, I just like them explained this way).
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elgrego4 said:
Ive renamed the the file but bootloader does nothing, i only have a 16gb sd. I also put the whole rom on the card and selected it using file explorer and now the windows colour dots are just going around in a circle.
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Have you double checked you card is Fat 32? I couldn't get a leoimg.nbh file recognised, until I found a similar post saying that it had to be Fat32. My card was in plain old fat...
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Be careful in your rom selection. This should ALWAYS be stressed when telling people how to do this. It's not simply a case of getting the one you want. You should always try to get the original rom your phone came with, or at a minimum one that the htc site recommends when you enter your country and phone serial. Flashing a bad rom via sd is pretty much the only way to brick your phone. This should not be forgotten or taken for granted.
That said, download the correct rom, rename to leoimg.nbh, stick it on the root of your sd card. Power off phone, insert sd card, hold volume down, press power.
(yeah I know clyde just typed the instructions, I just like them explained this way).
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Good point m8, I assumed that as he had already flashed the rom via exe that he had the right one. (I know that's a dangerous assumption given the level of some of the users on this site as some shouldn't be authorised to use anything more technical than a tv remote - no offence elgrego4 ). Noted and I will include that important statement in future advice given
I've just seen from your signatrure elgrego4 that your rom is listed as LEO70 (ie WP7). Did you reformat your sd card after using WP7?
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Im sending my phone back to htc so I flashed back a standard rom. I thought this would remove hspl but it didnt now Im ****ting my pants. How do i get it off?
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Turn the phone off..Then turn it on while holding volume down. This will take you to the bootloader menu( rainbow color). Plug the phone unto your PC then flash the original ROM that you downloaded from HTC site.No need to sync..Hope this will help.
Hey man if you want to remove HSPL you can just run the HSPL program from your pc with your phone connected in bootloader. It's the same procedure as installing HSPL, but now you must select SPL 2.08.000 instead of HSPL 2.08 while running the program.
I did it this way while I had to send my phone back and had no problems with it =)
You can check your SPL version in Bootloader.
yes it was fat 32, ive borrowed a 2gig so i will try that next
Its flashing with the 2gb card so fingers and everything else crossed
Keep us posted pls. I'm thinking also to bring back because of pixel error on the screen.
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it says update success, do i just reboot it now?
rebooted, not bricked. Will check the bootloader in a minute
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it says update success, do i just reboot it now?
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Yes........
SPL-3.03.000 is on now. Thanks for the help guy Knowing my luck htc wont find a fault
Pleasure m8, good luck.
Was 3.03 your original spl? If so I guess you do know it's a mission to get back to flash hspl once you get your phone back. You will first have to downgrade your rom to get to a lower version spl and then run hspl.
Hello
I am looking to root my NC but I don't want to change the internal software. I have looked and read and researched so many methods and threads and I am more confused then anything else.
I need step by step clear (for dummies) instructions to root it onto the SD card.
I just updated it to firmware 1.3 and as i was looking for a method to root it i found very few threads on this.
Then I tried to downgrade to 1.2 and that was unsuccessful. Please someone help me. I want it so bad but i dont know what to do.
No need to downgrade. While I do recommend you do an internal install, it is up to you. Click the link in my sig and go to the SD install section.
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Either your description is unclear or I have problem understand your English.
What do you mean by "root NC 1.3 onto MicroSD"?
Moving entire stock ROM version 1.3, rooted, on the uSD to free the internal space?
No. I want to root my NC 1.3, but i want to do it on the MicroSD not on the internal software.
koopakid08...this is probably a dumb question but im lost when i have to download the CM7...which one should I download for the NC..the ones listed are for phones?
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koopakid08...this is probably a dumb question but im lost when i have to download the CM7...which one should I download for the NC..the ones listed are for phones?
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7.1 stable. The device name should be encore.
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Ok so I followed the steps to the T and everything you said happened but after it installed it shut off and did not turn on again.
I turned it on and it booted to the regular nook software. I formated the sd card and did the process again and the same thing happened again.
Did I do something wrong?
cutiekateyes said:
Ok so I followed the steps to the T and everything you said happened but after it installed it shut off and did not turn on again.
I turned it on and it booted to the regular nook software. I formated the sd card and did the process again and the same thing happened again.
Did I do something wrong?
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Did you run win32 disk imager as admin?
What brand is your SD card?
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Yes I did. Transcend.
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Yes I did. Transcend.
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Try using winimage to burn the image.
If that doesn't work. Then I'm pretty sure it's your SD card. The only SD card brand you should use to run Android from is a Sandisk brand class 2 or 4. Other SD cards have major issues.
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OK. I tried it on my sandisk and the same thing happened.
I will try winimage next. brb
OK that didnt work either.
I dont know what else to do.
You are sure that you are putting the cm.zip file on the boot partition?
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I first write the image file on the blank/empty card.
Then I take it out of the computer and put it back, just like you said.
Then I open the card folder usually (j) and drag the zipped cm file onto it.
When that is done I drag the zipped gapps file onto the folder.
When that is done I take out the card and with the NC powered off I put in the MSD card and power it on.
All is well until it says removing the gapps, then it powers off.
When I try to power it on again it boots from the original NC, not the MSD card.
One thing though, When I click run as admin, it does not prompt for a password. It just asks if i want to allow the program to to make changes to the computer. I click yes and it opens up Win32. I select the file and the drive and press write. 5 seconds later its done.
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I first write the image file on the blank/empty card.
Then I take it out of the computer and put it back, just like you said.
Then I open the card folder usually (j) and drag the zipped cm file onto it.
When that is done I drag the zipped gapps file onto the folder.
When that is done I take out the card and with the NC powered off I put in the MSD card and power it on.
All is well until it says removing the gapps, then it powers off.
When I try to power it on again it boots from the original NC, not the MSD card.
One thing though, When I click run as admin, it does not prompt for a password. It just asks if i want to allow the program to to make changes to the computer. I click yes and it opens up Win32. I select the file and the drive and press write. 5 seconds later its done.
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Try just putting just the cm.zip, no gapps. That might be the problem.
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