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[Q] Is the RAZR M SIM Unlocked From The Factory?

Most of Verizon's world phones are SIM locked, and you either have to get it unlocked, or use Verizon's SIM card. I figured it would be the same for this phone. However, I read somewhere that the pre-release version is unlocked out of the box. I'm guessing by pre-release, they mean the one that was given to the press at the launch event.
Anybody know if all the Ms are unlocked from the factory? Specifically, what I'm after is to find out if they can be used on AT&T or T-Mobile in the US without any modifications. The earlier Motorola world phones needed modifications to do so, but it's worth a shot to see if this maybe is different. Just being generally unlocked saves a step, too, but if someone can provide the information on whether it is unlocked for US bands, that would be great.

I can confirm it does not allow calls using a US T-Mobile SIM. It does show the voicemail indicator and my t-mo # correctly in settings, but I think its just reading that from the SIM card itself.
Doesn't verizon unlock after 90 days good standing? I know for iPhones they do. Might be something I'll try in a few months.
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olm3ca said:
I can confirm it does not allow calls using a US T-Mobile SIM. It does show the voicemail indicator and my t-mo # correctly in settings, but I think its just reading that from the SIM card itself.
Doesn't verizon unlock after 90 days good standing? I know for iPhones they do. Might be something I'll try in a few months.
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Thanks for the info! I'm not sure if that is the typical behavior or not. I forgot what my Droid Pro did before I unlocked it.
Verizon usually does unlock it if you've been a customer for more than 90 days. They still won't let you use the US networks, though...just international ones. Hopefully P3Droid and his team will work their magic on this one. I know he already ordered a Dev Edition of the M.

freak4dell said:
Thanks for the info! I'm not sure if that is the typical behavior or not. I forgot what my Droid Pro did before I unlocked it.
Verizon usually does unlock it if you've been a customer for more than 90 days. They still won't let you use the US networks, though...just international ones. Hopefully P3Droid and his team will work their magic on this one. I know he already ordered a Dev Edition of the M.
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It sounds like it is SIM unlocked since it's reading from the T-Mobile SIM at all. I believe all the Razr & Razr Maxx officially come as SIM unlocked from the factory, so I would guess the Razr M would too. It still has the network block for US GSM networks, but that's different than the SIM card.
I'm interested in getting the Razr M to replace my Droid Pro, so if anyone could confirm, that would be great!

celticjon said:
It sounds like it is SIM unlocked since it's reading from the T-Mobile SIM at all. I believe all the Razr & Razr Maxx officially come as SIM unlocked from the factory, so I would guess the Razr M would too. It still has the network block for US GSM networks, but that's different than the SIM card.
I'm interested in getting the Razr M to replace my Droid Pro, so if anyone could confirm, that would be great!
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That could be, and maybe it's just Verizon's policy these days, considering the iPhone 5 ships unlocked (and the iP5 has no US band lock, either). Hopefully someone can try it with an international SIM when they travel and let us know.

Now that a few people have gotten the Dev version in their hands, any differences on that one as far as the SIM unlock goes? Since Verizon doesn't sell that directly, maybe Motorola left the US bands unlocked on that one.

Is The RAZR M SIM Unlocked From The Factory?
Is there anything new on this?

Sim is Unlocked, it will read any sim but US-Sim seem to be Radio Locked.
Which u can bypass by an Aussie Radio. And then u can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T
I will be able to verify in 1-2 weeks if it will work on an International Sim with out any modification.
Sending my GirlFriend her Razr M to Germany so she can test it on O2.

Yeah, it's unlocked, and you can use it on T-Mobile and AT&T with the Australian radio, but nobody has been able to consistently get 3G on either carrier.

Does anybody test the phone outside of the U.S?

Any word?
Germanese said:
Sim is Unlocked, it will read any sim but US-Sim seem to be Radio Locked.
Which u can bypass by an Aussie Radio. And then u can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T
I will be able to verify in 1-2 weeks if it will work on an International Sim with out any modification.
Sending my GirlFriend her Razr M to Germany so she can test it on O2.
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Any word from Germany?

Works fine in Germany 3G is active but we cant get passed the .5mb/s mark in speed but she is also in a rural area at the moment for Christmas.
Where O2 doesn't have alot of towers.

Yes sim is factory unlocked. 4G works in Mexico
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I can confim that the razr m is sim unlocked for international use out of the box no modification required. My sister uses one on koodo mobile (canadian service provider) with her koodo sim. When she comes back to the states she pops in the american sim it came with and uses on my verizon plan.
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areayetee said:
I can confim that the razr m is sim unlocked for international use out of the box no modification required. My sister uses one on koodo mobile (canadian service provider) with her koodo sim. When she comes back to the states she pops in the american sim it came with and uses on my verizon plan.
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+1
Works great on Rogers here in Canada minus the lte of course.

does everything work?
Does call, text, picture messaging, and web all work internationally?

liongood9 said:
Does call, text, picture messaging, and web all work internationally?
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Yes, EVERYTHING works.

Did anyone use it on 900 and 1800 radio?
TIA.

sasikanth8 said:
Did anyone use it on 900 and 1800 radio?
TIA.
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I can confirm that everything works internationally, tried in Italy and Singapore. Also, the network in italy was on the 900 frequency band, so that works for sure, haven't tested 1800 but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Does it mean that all models of razr m are factory unlocked? I know there are 3 versions of razr m XT905, XT907 and XT902. Just wonder if I can unlock my XT902.

How to 'unlock' for U.S. GSM networks (Tmobile and AT&T)

Does anyone know how to make the Razr M work with U.S. GSM networks?
(I know that it works for GSM networks internationally, but it does not seem to work for SIM cards from U.S. GSM networks--the phone says "the SIM card is unrecognized".)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017987
I have done this personally and it works for voice and text, data only worked very little on EDGE. YMMV

ChuckLezz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017987
I have done this personally and it works for voice and text, data only worked very little on EDGE. YMMV
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Thanks. I'll give that a try.
This just adds the ability to use U.S. GSM networks, right? It doesn't alter/hinder the ability of the phone to use GSM networks internationally? I hope to still use it when traveling.

schmittyd said:
Thanks. I'll give that a try.
This just adds the ability to use U.S. GSM networks, right? It doesn't alter/hinder the ability of the phone to use GSM networks internationally? I hope to still use it when traveling.
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Sadly, I am unable to answer that. I believe some have tried it (or were going to try it), and I haven't seen anyone mention issues thus far.

schmittyd said:
Thanks. I'll give that a try.
This just adds the ability to use U.S. GSM networks, right? It doesn't alter/hinder the ability of the phone to use GSM networks internationally? I hope to still use it when traveling.
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Heh... No, but can be reverted. From my traveling experience, you'll have to flash back the original Verizon radio when traveling internationally or you'll get no signal.
Flashing radios back and forth is fairly simple with fastboot once you get used to it... May not be great if you travel a lot though.
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Theres a better option to fully unlock US GSM Radios on RAZR M, you can get 4G in AT&T and EDGE in Tmobile. You will need Retail VRZ Radio and some tools to modify NV Radio File and remove the lock motorola placed for these bands. Search for DFS Tools, Motorola Prerelease Mobile Drivers 5.2.1 32 Bit. and NV radio Razr unlock in other forums, sorry that i cant give you direct link.

Criminals
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984265&page=18
This is the better option, and it works GREAT.
Kelvin0007 said:
Theres a better option to fully unlock US GSM Radios on RAZR M, you can get 4G in AT&T and EDGE in Tmobile. You will need Retail VRZ Radio and some tools to modify NV Radio File and remove the lock motorola placed for these bands. Search for DFS Tools, Motorola Prerelease Mobile Drivers 5.2.1 32 Bit. and NV radio Razr unlock in other forums, sorry that i cant give you direct link.
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I'm currently selling my unlocked razr m on swappa.com under the same user name, I get full H+ in my area on AT&T with it.

[Q] Domestic GSM carriers on Verizon RAZR M or USCC Electrify M?

Is this possible at all? Everything I have seen pertains to the Droid RAZR, Droid Bionic or Photon 4G.

I am using a Verizon branded RAZR M on T-Mobile getting H+ data (haven't officially checked the speeds yet).
While it took some work to get things functional, so far so good!
As far as I know the Electrify does not have GSM capabilities.

styndall said:
I am using a Verizon branded RAZR M on T-Mobile getting H+ data (haven't officially checked the speeds yet).
While it took some work to get things functional, so far so good!
As far as I know the Electrify does not have GSM capabilities.
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I checked USCC site and they don't list it as a World Phone. Ugh, there go my hopes.
In regards to Verizon RAZR M, is it already unlocked for domestic GSM or what has to be done? Can it be unlocked via a utility such as RadioComm or do I have to pay for an unlock code?

You do not need to purchase an unlocking code. There is a thread in this sub forum that talks about the gsm unlock using a program called RadioComm. The instructions are very easy to follow. I am on my mobile now so I will link the thread in an edit.
Here is the link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166542
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[Q] Verizon G2 ... Possible to get on 4g LTE from Tmobile ?

Hey Guys,
I got a Verizon model that I've been using on T-mobile. I've been very happy with it so far but I'm wondering, since it is rootable, can we somehow someday unlock the t-mobile 4g lte bands ? I believe its the same phone on each network... just software locked. Cant really find anything online about it but i think it may be possible.
Hope the experts weigh in on this

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Xplic1T said:
Hey Guys,
I got a Verizon model that I've been using on T-mobile. I've been very happy with it so far but I'm wondering, since it is rootable, can we somehow someday unlock the t-mobile 4g lte bands ? I believe its the same phone on each network... just software locked. Cant really find anything online about it but i think it may be possible.
Hope the experts weigh in on this
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So you had Verizon sim unlock it? I'm assuming so otherwise I don't think it would work but you say its working with the exception of LTE? I'm unfamiliar with T-Mobile bands but I think the Verizon G2 has them all. Is there a difference in the plan to include their LTE? You're certain your area has LTE?
Check out the Nexus 4 forums. There are a ton of hybrid radios they flash to enable LTE and educate on Radio differences. There's a sticky on top for all LTE diilscussion. I don't think you'll need to flash radios, but you'll find resources on how to possibly enable it in APN settings.
Have you modified any APN settings?
Are you running stock software?
Edit: I am no expert. Hope that's OK?

Xplic1T said:
Hey Guys,
I got a Verizon model that I've been using on T-mobile. I've been very happy with it so far but I'm wondering, since it is rootable, can we somehow someday unlock the t-mobile 4g lte bands ? I believe its the same phone on each network... just software locked. Cant really find anything online about it but i think it may be possible.
Hope the experts weigh in on this
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as far as i know you would just have to modify the apns and tell it to connect to tmobile's network instead of verizon. sometimes it will just do it on its own though

Bump. I see people posting all over that it is possible but I cant seem to find the proper threads. Heck, people have talked about flashing a t-mobile stock rom to it and it works... Is this true?

big gulps huh? said:
Bump. I see people posting all over that it is possible but I cant seem to find the proper threads. Heck, people have talked about flashing a t-mobile stock rom to it and it works... Is this true?
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This is indeed true, you need to be on the 11a firmware which means not taking the ota update to 12b from verizon. Then you flash the Tmobile stock ROM and a patch made by tangjun269 found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49301459
You will also need to flash the 12b modem before flashing the Tmobile ROM and patch in order to get LTE
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Does it work just like the tmobile variant? After its been flashed? And does hspa+ work too?
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Should I leave it as a Verizon variant or convert it?

Hello,
I just moved back home to Guam a few weeks ago from Colorado and I am wondering how I should go about getting service in Guam.
After I pay off my Wife's and I services with Verizon I want to try and connect it with the carriers here. To my understanding, after I pay Verizon the early termination fees etc, the phones should be unlocked*carrier unlocked*?
The phones in question are the HTC 10*mine* and S7 Edge*wife's*, we spoke with Verizon before we left, they told us that the phones are unlocked already and wouldn't have any issues using other carriers.
Should I change the HTC 10 to the Unlocked variant is this even possible? I've read about unlocking it to T-mobile or ATT etc so should I leave it and see what my local carriers can do or should I get it in an unlocked carrier state?
Before we left I used a Sprint variant of the M7, lots have changed since then, I didn't have to do anything to change the MID etc, I was sorta gimped on Data connection, but that was a few years ago, NO 4g LTE, but now the local carriers are on it.
Thanks for your time

If you stay with Verizon, keep the stock software. Also you're already sim-unlocked.
If you change to a GSM carrier, not sure the VZW software will work or not but you can definitely "convert" it to the U.S Unlocked version. That's the easiest/safest way since both phones have the same MID. You'll need S-off ($25).

I am S-off already.
Would being U.S unlocked be a viable option to not have issues trying to connect with local carriers?

v1ral said:
Hello,
I just moved back home to Guam a few weeks ago from Colorado and I am wondering how I should go about getting service in Guam.
After I pay off my Wife's and I services with Verizon I want to try and connect it with the carriers here. To my understanding, after I pay Verizon the early termination fees etc, the phones should be unlocked*carrier unlocked*?
The phones in question are the HTC 10*mine* and S7 Edge*wife's*, we spoke with Verizon before we left, they told us that the phones are unlocked already and wouldn't have any issues using other carriers.
Should I change the HTC 10 to the Unlocked variant is this even possible? I've read about unlocking it to T-mobile or ATT etc so should I leave it and see what my local carriers can do or should I get it in an unlocked carrier state?
Before we left I used a Sprint variant of the M7, lots have changed since then, I didn't have to do anything to change the MID etc, I was sorta gimped on Data connection, but that was a few years ago, NO 4g LTE, but now the local carriers are on it.
Thanks for your time
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First, great info above me. 2nd, you could actually go ahead and superCID and run latest 1.96.617.20 US Unlocked RUU. I'd say the best method is to try them out, RUU or firmware. If on a custom ROM and say chose VZW, you'd have to flash again and chose US unlocked. If you are on stock ROM then I'd try and see if it works as vzw says. If not I'd flash The Us unlocked firmware (modified for vzw you may need the radio.img and cardio.img that is normally removed). Best of luck my friend. I hope all goes well!

Will I have issues flashing viper after SuperCID?
OR should I go down to my carrier and try my luck as the device stands?
Thanks a lot!

v1ral said:
Will I have issues flashing viper after SuperCID?
OR should I go down to my carrier and try my luck as the device stands?
Thanks a lot!
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No issues at all. Supercid, basically makes it so you can flash any firmware and other things like RUU from other carriers like us unlocked -- (so make sure you know what you're flashing!!!) .
I'm not sure of your carrier or what they'd say. I'd honestly play it by ear and see what happens. I have faith that with the 10 you will be able to get everything working; although I can't say for sure.

v1ral said:
I am S-off already.
Would being U.S unlocked be a viable option to not have issues trying to connect with local carriers?
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I'm using a Verizon phone flashed with Unlocked ruu on a GSM network. The conversion improved the phone for me. Better reception in my area, able to connect to more lte bands, txt msgs come/go faster, and the initial connection to the network after boot up or getting outta airplane mode is much faster since I got away from VZW stock software. Also you get OTA updates as they become available, and you don't have to deal with Verizon's worthless software modifications like no battery saver mode, Wi-Fi notifications, etc if you're gonna stay stock.

Flashing the Unlocked firmware is your best bet. The only thing I'll add is that if possible find out what bands are being used by the carriers over there, and see if its compatible.
HTC 10 Unlocked Band Support:
LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29; 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS - 850/AWS/900/1900/2100; LTE - FDD - B28/B12/B13/B17/B29/B20/B5/B4/B3/B2/B1/B30/B7.

I want to convert my verizon htc 10 to international version
Guys, do you know how can i possibly convert my Verizon HTC 10 to works the same as the global unlocked phone? I'm so sad with the verizon version, I got weak signal in my country and barely reach to 4G LTE network. Most of the time I can only use 3G and some features also not work I'm trying to read lots of forums and watch youtube, but still couldn't get what I want! Plz let me know.
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:

cheakimpor said:
Guys, do you know how can i possibly convert my Verizon HTC 10 to works the same as the global unlocked phone? I'm so sad with the verizon version, I got weak signal in my country and barely reach to 4G LTE network. Most of the time I can only use 3G and some features also not work I'm trying to read lots of forums and watch youtube, but still couldn't get what I want! Plz let me know.
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
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Did you even bother to read this entire thread? Did you search on the forum? This question has been answered (and you didn't need to start a new thread).

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Sorry man! I'm new to here!
hgoldner said:
Did you even bother to read this entire thread? Did you search on the forum? This question has been answered (and you didn't need to start a new thread).
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Sorry brother, I'm here for helps to switch my Verizon HTC 10 it has weak signal and couldn't share wifi hostpot :\ especially i couldn't do system update unless I use CDMA :\ but in my country didn't support!

I'm trying to run the RUU.exe and it's not doing anything when I open it up...
Any ideas?

v1ral said:
I'm trying to run the RUU.exe and it's not doing anything when I open it up...
Any ideas?
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The installer installs prerequisites first. Then launches the installer. Did you get that far?
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dottat said:
The installer installs prerequisites first. Then launches the installer. Did you get that far?
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Okay I am trying again now...
It's going further than it did the other time..
It gave me error 155 and 170.. even with a full battery...
So I can just RUU the U.S Unlocked version and and try and use the radios, if not I can just flash back the VZW RUU with no ill effects?
SuperCID to 11111111....

v1ral said:
Okay I am trying again now...
It's going further than it did the other time..
It gave me error 155 and 170.. even with a full battery...
So I can just RUU the U.S Unlocked version and and try and use the radios, if not I can just flash back the VZW RUU with no ill effects?
SuperCID to 11111111....
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If on Verizon you won't get any service on unlocked without Verizon radios. Why not just flash a custom rom?
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dottat said:
If on Verizon you won't get any service on unlocked without Verizon radios. Why not just flash a custom rom?
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I am trying to get my local carrier data and sms to work...
data and sms don't work... system update doesn't work too.. modified system error...
Should I change CID to bs__X ?

Re-opening thread..
Can I convert on Oreo?

v1ral said:
Re-opening thread..
Can I convert on Oreo?
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Nothing preventing you to convert from VZW to U.S Unlocked, as long as you're s-off. I'm running Unlocked Oreo on my VZW variant.