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Which is better? Thanks for your help.
No question about it.
The Nexus 7.
But don't forget, your at a Nexus 7 forum, ask the same question in a Galaxy forum and you'll get the same response but the other way round.
But it really is an brilliant device.
I know, but as in specs. Evidence doesn't lie
Yeah. Don't have enough to afford a nexus 10 in my country :'( $130 more than in the US.
Definitely get a nexus 7. I hear people moan about how slow galaxy tabs are compared with n7
yeah but what about specs?
Well the Tab2 7 already has old software on it where we are getting ANOTHER update to 4.2
The Tab2 is a nice tablet and I've seen it reduced to $249 to compete with the N7 but longevity, the Nexus easily wins. For me, half of the fun of owning a device is getting new features with a Nexus device. Plus if there is any problems, being able to get those fixes from somewhere other then the manufacture 4 months later.
Right now, both tabs a close draw. They are both really nice tablets with really nice features. But think about choosing one a year from now. In one hand you'll have the Nexus 7 running Key Lime Pie 5.0 vs the Tab2 [maybe] running JB 4.2
There's most always a way to manually update it.
Which one is faster? Has better resolution? Better speakers? Etc
I'd like to know the physical comparison.
I think the N7 is a no brainer over the Tab2.
Well you managed to navigate here, why not navigate to google & search for a side by side comparison I'm sure there are loads you could salivate over :banghead:
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Nexus 7 all the way. Best specs and it's essentially meant to be modded
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If you're looking for an unbiased answer you are looking in the wrong place. Try Google.
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I have both so can try and give an objective view
The nexus 7 is slicker and faster for sure although regular folk who have used both don't notice any difference. I prefer the nexus 7 screen but the tab 2 is fine, nothing too major.
I actually prefer the software layout on the tab, I hate not being able to delete a home screen on the nexus on stock and I prefer the quick access to power toggles on the tab. I dont however like the stupid app panel on the tab that you cant disable.
One thing that surprised me, I do miss the back camera on the nexus. Just for stupid things like taking pics of the cats or whatever, its just handy to have that feature.
Of course you have the SD card on the tab, which is a bonus but the tab has less storage space for apps now the nexus is 16gb min. I will however use the tab on long journeys and trips away as I can put all my video and music files on the SD card. I just wished they found a way to let you (unrooted) move the large app data files to SD. Sygic GPS does allow you to move the map files to the ext SD so thats handy.
Tab doesnt allow my xbox controller to work on usb OTG whereas Nexus 7 does, although the tab worked with on other input devices such as mice.
To sum up, the Nexus is my preferred device in the majority of situations and I am recommending this to my parents over the tab2 unless a very good deal can be had for the tab2. So unless your someone who needs the extra SD space for media or will really use the back camera a lot, the Nexus would be my pick
edit: oh and I hate chrome on the nexus, much prefer the browser on the tab, chrome is unbelievable slow to the point of frustration
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If you're looking for an unbiased answer you are looking in the wrong place. Try Google.
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DrEzkimo said:
I have both so can try and give an objective view
The nexus 7 is slicker and faster for sure although regular folk who have used both don't notice any difference. I prefer the nexus 7 screen but the tab 2 is fine, nothing too major.
I actually prefer the software layout on the tab, I hate not being able to delete a home screen on the nexus on stock and I prefer the quick access to power toggles on the tab. I dont however like the stupid app panel on the tab that you cant disable.
One thing that surprised me, I do miss the back camera on the nexus. Just for stupid things like taking pics of the cats or whatever, its just handy to have that feature.
Of course you have the SD card on the tab, which is a bonus but the tab has less storage space for apps now the nexus is 16gb min. I will however use the tab on long journeys and trips away as I can put all my video and music files on the SD card. I just wished they found a way to let you (unrooted) move the large app data files to SD. Sygic GPS does allow you to move the map files to the ext SD so thats handy.
Tab doesnt allow my xbox controller to work on usb OTG whereas Nexus 7 does, although the tab worked with on other input devices such as mice.
To sum up, the Nexus is my preferred device in the majority of situations and I am recommending this to my parents over the tab2 unless a very good deal can be had for the tab2. So unless your someone who needs the extra SD space for media or will really use the back camera a lot, the Nexus would be my pick
edit: oh and I hate chrome on the nexus, much prefer the browser on the tab, chrome is unbelievable slow to the point of frustration
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Helpful, thanks
Just find the AOSP browser for the N7 if you can.
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I have both as well, though the Tab 2 is on "semi-permanent loan" to my daughter.
First, Nexus 7 is Tegra 3, the Tab 2 is not. That means there will be some apps for the Nexus 7 that won't be available for the Tab 2 directly thru the Play Store (but possibly can be side loaded).
The Tab 2 features TouchWiz, but you probably knew that.
The Tab 2 has a built in IR blaster that works pretty good.
The Tab 2 being 8gb really only has about 5gb as usable storage.
The Quick Launch bar on the Tab 2 is nice, but seems that you can only add Samsung apps to it.
There is a Screen shot button on the main navbar of the Tab 2 that is too damn close to the Recent Apps button - I really don't like the positioning of it.
I personally miss having a rear camera on the N7, but it's not a deal breaker.
Updates, updates, updates for the N7 - big plus (stock Tab 2 still on 4.0.4)
Overall, I prefer the N7
I own them both.
You can't really compare them.
The Nexus is smooth, fast and definitely higher res.
The Tab has a sweet remote, ext. Memory and a back cam.
At the end end of the day, I love them both. But for very different reasons.
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Well, now for a different perspective. I've had extensive time with both of them before giving the Tab to my sister. Stock, the Nexus will blow the Tab away in speed. The stock launcher on the Tab just felt so slow and laggy. But when I rooted the tab and put a jb rom on it, you honestly couldn't tell the difference between the two. The Nexus has newer hardware, so the specs are a bit better, but the Tab has expandable memory and an ir port, as well as a rear camera. Now, the jb rom doesn't have working drivers for the ir yet, but it's going to get jb officially soon, so that won't be an issue for long. I'd personally take the Nexus over the Tab, but it's really up to you. If you spend time learning to root the Tab, the difference in the processor isn't really enough to make much of a difference. I'm actually thinking about getting one for myself to go along with my Nexus.
Hey man, I want to buy Nexus 7 because of its price ( cheaper than the other, LOL XD)
But I still cannot decide which one to buy ( N7 or Samsung galaxy tab 2 7 inch )
This what makes me worries :
- N7 can be cracked easily
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there).
So can you help me to :
- Give me what do you think of N7 advantages compare to Samsung 7 inch tablet ( because this tablet is his rival for me, LOL )
- Are my statements up there are correct or wrong ?
- Are you having issues with your N7 ? ( Please give what you do to solve it )
- CONVINCE me more about N7, LOL
- Anybody has news if google wants to make another 7 inch low price tablet ?
- Can you guys recommend me another 7 inch tablet ( no IPAD MINI or Kindle Fire )
Thx a lot guys!:fingers-crossed:
Nexus nuff said. You always get updates and no bloat.
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Hey man, I want to buy Nexus 7 because of its price ( cheaper than the other, LOL XD)
But I still cannot decide which one to buy ( N7 or Samsung galaxy tab 2 7 inch )
This what makes me worries :
- N7 can be cracked easily
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there).
So can you help me to :
- Give me what do you think of N7 advantages compare to Samsung 7 inch tablet ( because this tablet is his rival for me, LOL )
- Are my statements up there are correct or wrong ?
- Are you having issues with your N7 ? ( Please give what you do to solve it )
- CONVINCE me more about N7, LOL
- Anybody has news if google wants to make another 7 inch low price tablet ?
- Can you guys recommend me another 7 inch tablet ( no IPAD MINI or Kindle Fire )
Thx a lot guys!:fingers-crossed:
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The N7 is amazing. Its a Nexus device so it is first in line for updates and will always have the latest software available first. I personally will never buy anything that's not labeled Nexus ever again, but then again I'm very into rooting and custom ROMs.
I see no evidence of any weak screen or crack threat. I have no lifting and my device seems very solid. Don't drop it.
I have 16 gig version and it has plenty of memory. I have 9 gigs used on my gnex and there's tons of crap on my SD card so I'm not worried about space.
Hardware wise it is superior to most all other tablets and if you root, install a custom kernel, you can over clock and improve speed and fluidity.
My mom has a kindle fire and the Nexus embarrasses it.
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i just picked up one last Friday at staples and man it is the best thing i ve bought for myself in a long time
now like the other post said i have no problem with lifting screen and it is very solid and stable. i have rooted it and tried a couple of roms
and its great if you download MX Player you can play just about any file format out the box. as for as dropping it ....DONT but that's common sense
get a case to protect it i just ordered the OEM case from amazon word of advise on the concern about the limited gb learn how to convert to MP4.H264 this is your best bet at getting the most out of your space and keep great video quality. music just use small bit-rate 128 should be fine and you should be great . i have 5 movies 1 season of true blood,3 videos and 5 albums and i still have 9 GB left so this is my advise good luck.
I got mine last week (32gb w/3G) rooted it and am having a blast with it. Loaded a couple of custom ROMs and lost 3G so I went back to stock rooted with no issues. I dumped the original Xoom for it and am not complaining. I picked up a Siedio case and have a 32gb Maxell AirStash on order for storage. I too could not decide between the GTab and the Nexus because I wanted LTE, but after getting the N7, even with having only 3G I am not disappointed.
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I got mine last week (32gb w/3G) rooted it and am having a blast with it. Loaded a couple of custom ROMs and lost 3G so I went back to stock rooted with no issues. I dumped the original Xoom for it and am not complaining. I picked up a Siedio case and have a 32gb Maxell AirStash on order for storage. I too could not decide between the GTab and the Nexus because I wanted LTE, but after getting the N7, even with having only 3G I am not disappointed.
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I'm jealous, I wish there was a Verizon model.
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I bought my nexus 7 (32gb as I always choose 32gb when possible) a few weeks back and have been so happy with it I haven't even rooted it. Build quality is excellent, none of the "common" problems here, plays any movie type I've tried using MX player, and plays any music file I've tried just fine with Google music. As for cracks, the screen is a 7 inch slab of glass, you want to do your best not to drop it. With that said I feel like my blurex case would do a decent job of protecting the screen from any potential mishaps, and the magnetic sensor that turns screen on and off as you open and close is freakin sweet!
And it's a nexus, once you try a nexus and experience the nexus difference you'll not want anything else.
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The Samsung Tabs are great. I have a first gen Samsung Galaxy 7" from Sprint that I run CM10 on (JB 4.1.2) and while it's thicker and has a lower resolution, it plays fine. That said, getting official support from Samsung is a joke. My Tab never made it past Gingerbread and if it weren't for the great devs (gods) the tab would be almost useless now.
Samsung likes to use its Exynos processor (which is awesome) but doesn't support 4G, so there tends to be lots of variants in hardware... which can really make or break a buy if you don't buy the right model that has the most support.
As far as hardware comparisons, why bother? They both have the same basic hardware and aside from one being a smudge faster then the other, feature differences are trivial EXCEPT for any of the NOTE line because of their PEN. If you have a specific use for a pen such as notes or drawing... there really is no other choice.
A 32gb N7 is more then sufficient in storage needs. After ditching a memory card on my Galaxy Nexus 32gb... I've grown kind of fond of larger single storage. You don't have to worry about where to store your stuff so that CMW will find it and let you flash, you also don't have to worry about SOME apps installing to internal while some install to external. You just have 1 large pool.
Lack of SD makes it a little complicated to transfer files on and off your tab, until you figure out there are easier and better ways such as WiFi File Explorer (recommended) or Cloud storage. WiFi File Explorer creates a Web-Enabled Server on your device which you can access from any Browser. Makes it easy to wirelessly transfer large files from device to device, such as phone to tablet.
The N7 feels great in the hand. The really only issue is screen lift on one side but seriously it is like 1mm difference that everyone is freaking out over. No one ever even notices it until someone mentions it and they go looking for it. Asus has corrected the problem and newer devices such as a 32gb or 3G are already fixed and should be a non-issue now.
I recommend the N7 to everyone and lots of family now own one. On the plus side, we have the latest Android with multiuser support and additional cool features. Only a few Samsung tabs will see this. PLUS in a year from now, we'll get bumped to 5.0 when the Samsung tabs are forgotten about. This makes for great resale value and life longevity.
The nexus 7 is a amazing tablet to use. Since it carry's the nexus name you can be sure there will be updates.
No matter if you choose to run it stock but rooted or choose to run custom ROM on it. Basic web surfing and watching some YouTube videos nets me little over 24 hours on a full charge.
If your thinking about buying a 7" tablet. Go ahead and buy the 32gb nexus 7 you will be glad you did. Just be careful don't drop it.
I owned my nexus 7 for two weeks now and love it. The nexus 7 is the 2nd android tablet I ever owned. The first being the older kindle fire but I sold it for the nexus.
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Better screen quality and quad core. Get a N7
If you need more storage than buy a otg cable and plug in a thumb drive
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I have a Galaxy Tab 7.7 with Verizon and just got a Nexus 7 with 3G because I'm fed up with Verizon and Samsung dragging their butts releasing updates. While the screen's a little smaller and HSPA+ is a slower than LTE, I'm not at all feeling like I downgraded.
Anyone in the market for a GT 7.7?
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Well, thanks a lot guys! Now I'm going to buy one N7!!!!!!!
N7 all the way! Just got one 2 days ago and wondered why didn't I get it earlier! Build quality is top notch but as with any tablet, be careful not to drop it! 4.2.1 is also an absolute joy to use
I would get the international version of the Samsung and use it as a phone. N7 may get that functionality with some awesome Dev work.....emphasis on the may.
RivaultUser said:
Hey man, I want to buy Nexus 7 because of its price ( cheaper than the other, LOL XD)
But I still cannot decide which one to buy ( N7 or Samsung galaxy tab 2 7 inch )
This what makes me worries :
- N7 can be cracked easily
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there).
So can you help me to :
- Give me what do you think of N7 advantages compare to Samsung 7 inch tablet ( because this tablet is his rival for me, LOL )
- Are my statements up there are correct or wrong ?
- Are you having issues with your N7 ? ( Please give what you do to solve it )
- CONVINCE me more about N7, LOL
- Anybody has news if google wants to make another 7 inch low price tablet ?
- Can you guys recommend me another 7 inch tablet ( no IPAD MINI or Kindle Fire )
Thx a lot guys!:fingers-crossed:
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- N7 can be cracked easily 【others are not as concrete as a brick either 】
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )【OTG will sovle this problem】
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats【yes It really does】
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there)【I donot judge a product just for its price and its worth, so the reason I buy it is I like it. xD. 】
VolantBear said:
- N7 can be cracked easily 【others are not as concrete as a brick either 】
- N7 don't have external memory ( and I already searched over and ONLY found the 32 GB version, which is too much for me and makes it expensive )【OTG will sovle this problem】
- I don't know if N7 can play lots of music / video formats【yes It really does】
- I don't know if Google wants to make another 7 inch tablet with a low price ( N7 price is VERY lower than the other FAMOUS tablet out there)【I donot judge a product just for its price and its worth, so the reason I buy it is I like it. xD. 】
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I disagree, I don't think the Nexus can crack easily. Me being stupid, I had put it in my pocket every day, which stressed the screen a little bit each day. It took 2 months to actually break, which to me seems like a long time. That's just my opinion though. As the the price, I think it should be a deciding factor, because why should you get an iPad Mini for example, when you could get N7 for $120 cheaper. I know there are some perks, but still.
Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?
Yes, I bought one out right, 64gb, black.
Edit: Will you buy one? If not, why?
Depending on the phone you're coming from but yeah I'm coming from the g4 and it's head over heels better than that device
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Yes, I bought one out right, 64gb, black.
Edit: Will you buy one? If not, why?
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No, I'm sticking with the Note 4 or moving to LG or Sony. I travel a lot, so upgradable storage and removable battery are must haves for me.
I don't want to rely on cloud storage or power outlets or BULKY external chargers.
I got one. And I love I it, so far.
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No, I'm sticking with the Note 4 or moving to LG or Sony. I travel a lot, so upgradable storage and removable battery are must haves for me.
I don't want to rely on cloud storage or power outlets or BULKY external chargers.
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I see. You should keep your Note 4 and hold up for the note 6 maybe they will add the micro SD and removable battery back (I'm hoping). The Note 4 still a great phone and I personally think nothing worth the upgrade over the Note 4 out there at the moment.
I got the Note5 because I loved the s-pen. I never use micro SD or change the battery.
Got it yesterday morning. So far, love it.
Don't buy one until I get mine first.
Got mine on Monday, been enjoying it all week. 64Gb black. Coming from an LG G2, fantastic upgrade.
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Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?
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Will you mary me, every time I see you post something, I fall in love all over again
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nope..waiting for moto x pure
Kaboose666 said:
Got mine on Monday, been enjoying it all week. 64Gb black. Coming from an LG G2, fantastic upgrade.
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Note 4 would be an upgrade from that too and cheaper.
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Note 4 would be an upgrade from that too and cheaper.
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Yup it would, but since this was almost free for me I really dont care what it would have cost me off contract.
Moved to AT&T next which saved me $25/month on my bill. The phone costs $28/month. Total cost to me $3 more per month.
Besides the G2 didnt have a removable battery, and didn't have mSD card support, so what exactly would the Note4 offer me that the note 5 doesnt, besides a slower SoC, less RAM, worse display (though its still a good one), worse s-pen, and cheaper feel.
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Yup it would, but since this was almost free for me I really dont care what it would have cost me off contract.
Moved to AT&T next which saved me $25/month on my bill. The phone costs $28/month. Total cost to me $3 more per month.
Besides the G2 didnt have a removable battery, and didn't have mSD card support, so what exactly would the Note4 offer me that the note 5 doesnt, besides a slower SoC, less RAM, worse display (though its still a good one), worse s-pen, and cheaper feel.
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More storage and removable battery. Essential for power users, so maybe you're just not a power user.
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More storage and removable battery. Essential for power users, so maybe you're just not a power user.
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Lol I love this argument, i'm not a power user because I use cloud storage and sit at a desk therefore a removable battery means nothing to me.
I have USB OTG if I want removable storage so bad, but I have 1TB of cloud storage so generally I find that pointless, I have 30GB free on my 64GB note5 after installing my apps. I will be fine with the remaining storage considering I am used to 32GB internal from the G2.
You calling me not a power user because you can't fathom how someone else uses a phone without an mSD card or a removable battery is just stupid, those things have no correlation with being a power user. I keep my phone plugged into my computer for literally 80% or more of my day, what would a removable battery do for me? Nothing. mSD storage would allow me to keep 100GB of music with me at all times, sweet too bad I use spotify, or I could keep all those Linux distros on the mSD card, everyone knows power users use Linux for their primary OS so we always keep a distro or two on the phone just in case.
Give me a break, if you think someone not needing an mSD card slot and a removable battery means they aren't a power user then you don't know what a power user does. Those two things have absolutely no impact on what I use my phone for besides maybe not being a mobile data vault, which is a moot point when I have 1TB cloud storage and 75Mbps wifi.
Another dumb ass thread. If you don't want/like the phone don't get it. Nobody wants to keep logging in and seeing this crap. We are looking fwd to root and roms not people complaining about a phone. You don't Iike it don't buy it. Samsung will not lose sleep over you not getting this year's model. Stick to your Note from last year or whatever else you have and let us enjoy our devices. I go through a lot of devices.... Some with swappable battery and expandable storage... Some without. All manage to get me through a day or two and handle all task I do on a day to day basis. The Note 5 is a hell of a device. Awesome build quality, loud speaker, beautiful screen, beautiful camera, very responsive and very good battery life. Once we get root and custom roms more potential will be unlocked.
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Really? Note 5 has the best SoC on the market, fastest RAM (LPDDR4) and more RAM (4GB), best display (18-23% brighter than note 4 while using 20% less power), and fastest internal memory (UFS 2.0).
I got the phone for basically free, but hey I guess i'm just "stupid" for getting the current best phone on the market while only spending $50 out of pocket.
I feel really dumb now.
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Even with all that RAM Note 5 doesn't store apps in memory.
I bought it and still have my note 4.. Couple of downsides to it but it still outperforms the note 4 on every level.. .
I have a otg dongle for extra memory now that literally takes secs to use. And with Samsung's read write speeds it's more than adequately gets the job done..
But nonetheless I still will keep the 4 in case this thing goes belly up for some reason.
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Seriously, I came into the thread since I already bought one. I posted a comment about buying it, the OP has done nothing but make rude comments and attack me since.
What the hell is the point of this thread if you're just going to call everyone who gets a note5 an idiot for not getting a note4?
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I got to be honest I'm running note 3 and ported s6 rom it's a fantastic rom but obviously being 64 bit running on note 3 it has limitations I'm in London and for some reason we don't get n5 till Jan I don't understand logic behind the wait as we are usually before the us on updates iv a choice between s6 edge + note 4 edge or wait for n5 so was hoping for some for and against but seems like the op should rename thread to all who hate note 5 (and love note 4 )
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I got to be honest I'm running note 3 and ported s6 rom it's a fantastic rom but obviously being 64 bit running on note 3 it has limitations I'm in London and for some reason we don't get n5 till Jan I don't understand logic behind the wait as we are usually before the us on updates iv a choice between s6 edge + note 4 edge or wait for n5 so was hoping for some for and against but seems like the op should rename thread to all who hate note 5 (and love note 4 )
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Don't get me wrong I love my note 5 and I'm going to keep it the only thing I don't like about it is not having an IR blaster and that's just because I travel for work and I use it often I cannot wait to get this thing rooted and see what ROMs come out for it
As i m using note 4 as daily driver for almost for 2 yr didn't ride on the note 5 trip earlier instead of wish to a have perfect note 7 !!!
I don't mean note 7 as a medicore device but being a poweruser of note series we deserve best chipset rather than 6 months old snapdragon 820 rather than 821 and more faster exynose and 6gb ram......and i m not particularly big fan of 4:3 ratio picture produced by 12 megapixel s7 camera.....aprart from this usb-c ,waterproofing ,hdr display(less talked in almost every reviews but a milestone upgrade) are definitely welcome change......and very bold ergonomic design note 7 also praise worthy.........let's discuss
Nothing to discuss about it really here in this place as this is for Note 4. I like the phone, more or less, whatever much you can like a glass built phone, nice compact device, IP68 and all. 4:3 is a poor thing indeed. USB C is the biggest hype I have ever seen! Will get it when price cools down. The main factor will be the laggy TouchWiz UI, don't know whether Samsung has made it better in Note 7 or not, but I could never like it as it is on Note 4.
I agree... with the note 4 set to get note 7 rom and having removable battery not compelling to upgrade.. (charge time on note 7 not exciting, wish it had QC 3.0 we could have seen significant drop in charging time but they stuck to QC 2.0 similar to note 4)
Note 4 is juuust fine for me with note7 rom or CM13.. still cant decide
Wouldn't mind the note 7 tbf love the design of it and have wanted the camera from the S6 since it came out as in the UI with the manual focus control. Have used the camera on my brothers S7 and it is fantastic quality and far more manual control over it too. I didn't go for note 5 because for one it's not available here in the UK and second it doesn't have a micro SD card slot but the note 7 seems to be an excellent phone only downside being the lack of a removable battery and for me personally have never taken advantage of that with the note 4 except when I need to hard shutdown the device.
Also not bothered by not having 6gb of RAM or the latest CPU like how much RAM do you need in a phone seriously? Even 4gb is a slight overkill and also how fast do you want a phone to be? Most phones from 3-4 years ago will open apps under 2 seconds if that so even if newer phones opens apps in half a second how much faster do you want phones to be until they're fast enough? Even if phones get powerful enough to run next gen console games and if they had at least 1TB of storage I can't imagine playing games like gta 5 etc on a touch screen very easily like even Gta SA is bad to play on a smartphone.
I may consider getting a Note 7 as I'm having problems getting a Gear VR Innovator Edition for my N910C. I also like the new iris scanner in the Note 7.
I am, definitely.
I have a Note 4 coupled with a 10ah Zerolemon with a custom kernel to circumvent to static fuel gauge. Rooted, 64gb SD, extended battery, S-pen. It's perfect.
I was really disappointed with the Note 5 having neither an SD slot nor a removable battery. The Note 7 alleviates this issue by reintroducing the SD slot, but still leaves a lot to be desired. Namely, reconciliation with Samsung's relentless refusal for proper documentation (for (stable) rooting), and a removable battery. I think I'll be fine without a removable SD card, but battery is essential.
Let's just think of all the scenarios where a removable battery would be extremely convenient:
Camping, hiking, traveling. It's very convenient to swap batteries, to not need a charger, or finding a plug/socket, or avoiding the dreadfully slow wait when using a portable charger/battery pack.
Additionally, when faced with technical difficulties, it can be necessary to remove the battery, which Note users beyond the Note 4 cannot do(easily).
Not only that, but if you want to keep the device for more than 2 years, you'd need to replace the dilapidated battery (remember that LiPo batteries have a fixed number of cycles), or, perhaps, need an extended battery for when even with the more efficient panel and SoC, the device is still does not last for as long as you'd want. Essentially, the Note 7 is a media consumption device. One cannot consume media or sustain a productive activity on the Note 7 with a relatively mediocre battery .
Even without root, for which there are workarounds, or the introduction of features that no longer require root (such as adblocking, blocking access to particular sets of APIs, etc.), I'd be willing to buy a Note device, given it has a removable battery. I'm voting NO with my money, as far as I'm concerned. In all honesty, it seems that I'll probably get an LG Stylo at some point, once my Note 4 dies some years down the road.
Non-removable battery made me keep Note4 and not buy Note5. I will skip Note7. Probably Note 8 will have a removable battery again, so I will wait until then.
no user-replaceable battery, big no.....
I have my trusty 2013 Nexus 7 FHD which is showing its age already big time. The thing is really slow and beat up.
My primary use is to load mkvs and download offline Netflix / Amazon movies to watch when I travel.
Nexus 7 users, how would you say the M3 stacks up against the N7? I am ok with root only and Nova launcher, don't care about custom ROMs
As a former owner of Nexus 7 2013 will say.
1) Size: Huawei it's a bit bigger, heavier, but thinner. Huawei wins.
2) OS: Nexus 7 gives much more freedom in installing whatever you want, where Huawei reduces your choice to EMUI only. It's not bad, I like this system, but Nexus is a winner here.
3) Performance: Snapdragon S4 Pro (or Snapdragon 600) in Nexus 7 is old now and doesn't give good performance. Kirin 950 is not the best CPU too, but it's faster any way. The question left it's GPU. Qualcomm's variant is better for games, has better capability with 3D, but in Nexus 7 it's old enough, so you won't play modern games on it. Neither you will on Mediapad. Huawei wins, but as for GPU I think it's a draw.
4) Memory: Nexus 7 has non extendable 32GB, Huawei has 64 + MicroSD. Huawei wins.
5) Sound: both devices have good sound, Huawei is louder and it's sound it's sharper, Nexus's sound is warmer and lampier. Draw.
6) Screen: FullHD on nexus 7 (okay, not full, a bit bigger), 7 inches. Huawei has QuadHD and 8.6 inches. Also I like Huawei's colors more than Nexus's. Huawei wins.
7) Cameras: both devices have sh...tty cameras. Draw.
So, you see, comparing this two devices is much like comparing an old notebook to the new one. The new one will win because it's new, but if you don't need all this new and in-trend stuff of new devices, you can pass by and stay on your current.
What about 2 GB of RAM vs 4 GB of RAM? SD 600 is a very old SoC and the GPU cannot be that bad compared to a GPU from 2013. I have a G Pad 8.3, it has the same Soc. I installed Nougat on it (AOSP) and I can already tell that the GPU is a little overwhelmed by the new games. It used to be ok on MarshMallow.
Thanks for your comments. It is so difficult to find a good replacement for the Nexus 7 2013, really sucks. Maybe an iPad 4 mini is in order
As long as I delete the cache now and then, the Nexus 7 remains perfectly usable. Only found browsing became a bit of a slug on it after Marshmallow, but UC browser seems to be the least demanding browser for me. Ran Puffin Browser before, but they changed the interface in the new version and was not to my liking.
Every Time I think about moving on, I ask myself what can't the Nexus 7 do anymore that a 2017 tablet in this range can. Newer games are probably its biggest challenge, but that's not an issue for me. BS player and Kodi continue to play everything I throw at it. The Meenova mini micro sd card expansion dongle stores media on 3 128gb cards I have sitting around and also works well streaming from a Seagate 2TB wireless drive, so storage isn't a problem. The LTE version I have works with project-fi which splits the load with my Nexus 6P so I don't drain the battery on my phone throughout the day. Battery life is around 80% of its original (accubattery), so that's not really a problem, so I've got nothing to complain about except the itch to upgrade to newer hardware. The m3 was at the top of my list when it first game out, but i decided it would have been an impulse buy that didn't really justify the cost at that point. In May, Lenovo is releasing its new 8 inch tab pro tablet. I'm going to wait to see what the reviews are like on that. Besides, if I've continued to wait this long, the rumor of a huawei M4 will probably be going about by the time I actually get around to making a decision.
For me, the Nexus 7 2013 remains to be a trustworthy companion, so its hard to just move on. Doesn't have the latest specs, but its functional for my needs and like I said if you clear the cache out within recovery mode, the performance is greatly improved.
callanish said:
As long as I delete the cache now and then, the Nexus 7 remains perfectly usable. Only found browsing became a bit of a slug on it after Marshmallow, but UC browser seems to be the least demanding browser for me. Ran Puffin Browser before, but they changed the interface in the new version and was not to my liking.
Every Time I think about moving on, I ask myself what can't the Nexus 7 do anymore that a 2017 tablet in this range can. Newer games are probably its biggest challenge, but that's not an issue for me. BS player and Kodi continue to play everything I throw at it. The Meenova mini micro sd card expansion dongle stores media on 3 128gb cards I have sitting around and also works well streaming from a Seagate 2TB wireless drive, so storage isn't a problem. The LTE version I have works with project-fi which splits the load with my Nexus 6P so I don't drain the battery on my phone throughout the day. Battery life is around 80% of its original (accubattery), so that's not really a problem, so I've got nothing to complain about except the itch to upgrade to newer hardware. The m3 was at the top of my list when it first game out, but i decided it would have been an impulse buy that didn't really justify the cost at that point. In May, Lenovo is releasing its new 8 inch tab pro tablet. I'm going to wait to see what the reviews are like on that. Besides, if I've continued to wait this long, the rumor of a huawei M4 will probably be going about by the time I actually get around to making a decision.
For me, the Nexus 7 2013 remains to be a trustworthy companion, so its hard to just move on. Doesn't have the latest specs, but its functional for my needs and like I said if you clear the cache out within recovery mode, the performance is greatly improved.
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Good points all around. Actually my only gripe is the lack of storage.
As mentioned I don't browse or play games, just use the tablet for movies.
I guess I will get a micro usb flash drive and use that as an extended memory when needed.
Reviving an old thread to ask for more opinions on whether the Huawei M3 is a worthwhile upgrade to the 2013 Nexus 7. I like the form factor of 7-8" tablets with widescreen.
I do not play many games on it, mostly web browsing and video from youtube or amazon instant video. The Huawei speakers are supposed to be louder and with better quality sound. Some of the reviews on amazon suggested it is a good upgrade for N7 owners. Also interested in sd card support and putting music library on it in. My N7 only has 16 gb internal storage, obviously less than that user available.
Also, I don't care about custom roms.
I bought a Mediapad M3, WiFi only. I like it quite a lot. I did not own a Nexus 7, but I had a G Pad 8.3 that I passed along in the family to replace a dead tablet. I do not regret buying it. I am not even mentioning that Nougat update will come and can be installed even now, although it does not appear to be final.
I replaced my Nexus 7 2013 with a Mediapad M3. I felt like I was holding out forever for a new Nexus tablet.
The M3 is less comfortable to hold and feels more fragile. I guess the screen is better but I can't really tell. I have a European version of the M3 but still it doesn't seem to want to connect to 5GHz, and I'm still running EMUI4.1. Seems to have better battery time, especially when watching x265 encoded videos. Speakers are a lot better, with the N7 I would use earplugs or a BT speaker but there's no need for that on the M3.
I'm fairly happy with it, overall. There is not a lot of options out there
Put some good headphones on the M3, you will be surprised how well it sounds. I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 202 II and they absolutely rock with the M3. I bought a second pair with sound controls for the G4 and the old G Pad 8.3, but it does not sound half as well as Sennheiser. I know Sennheiser HD 202 II are not that fancy, but they still are a little better than the average headset.