How is this device with dirty flashing? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I usually clean flash everything but in order to do it on this device you wipe the system data, cache, delvik cache. does that wipe the internal storage as well so i would end up with nothing on my tablet to flash? im only asking due to if im not home near a computer to use that wipe and flash rom program and i thought i remember reading somewhere if you wipe system data the tablet is completely empty.
If it does wipe it completely from doing that in the recovery system, can i at least dirty flash to different roms without severe issues?
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kyhassen said:
I usually clean flash everything but in order to do it on this device you wipe the system data, cache, delvik cache. does that wipe the internal storage as well so i would end up with nothing on my tablet to flash? im only asking due to if im not home near a computer to use that wipe and flash rom program and i thought i remember reading somewhere if you wipe system data the tablet is completely empty.
If it does wipe it completely from doing that in the recovery system, can i at least dirty flash to different roms without severe issues?
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Do not wipe internal storage. Just do a factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik.

thank you. i wasnt sure. when i started rooting this. i thought i saw somewhere that said if you do system data or factory reset wipe, it wipes the internal storage. i was try the the prime rom. im on smoothrom and its awesome but i want something new.
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[Q] About installing CM7 Nightly builds

Hey guys just a quick question about installing nightly builds on the nook. When Rom Manager asks whether to wipe data/cache and what not, if I select it, will it wipe the internal memory completely? leaving no user files behind? or will it only wipe the system files?
It will wipe everything and it will be a fresh install.
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If you update, just wipe cache
It wipes the /data partition but doesn't wipe /sdcard /sd-ext or /met/emmc.
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EGM92 said:
Hey guys just a quick question about installing nightly builds on the nook. When Rom Manager asks whether to wipe data/cache and what not, if I select it, will it wipe the internal memory completely? leaving no user files behind? or will it only wipe the system files?
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Just wipe Davlik.
if boot is longer than normal after wipe, it's normal!
votinh said:
If you update, just wipe cache
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patruns said:
Just wipe Davlik.
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So... just wipe Davlik Cache is what you guys are saying?
Good question helped out a newb here
Jiv_au said:
So... just wipe Davlik Cache is what you guys are saying?
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Correct
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Jiv_au said:
So... just wipe Davlik Cache is what you guys are saying?
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Note: wipe cache and wipe Dalvik cache are 2 different things.
+ wipe cache is a quick way to clean the current running ROM
+ wipe Dalvik is a completely clean.
After wipe Dalvik, next time it boots, it will take a lot longer time due to the device has to re-compile the whole thing before ROM start running and booting.
I think I need to drop a few lines about wipe cache/Dalvik.
As I posted above, I said it wiped clean.
Apparently, I am NOT 100% correct.
I just updated to nb198, wiped cache (formatting /cache) then wipe Dalvik cache.
After done updating ROM, booting up, I expected everything clean, completely fresh.
It's not the case, I went to Market and all old search history were still shown. Not only with Market but other apps too.
So
a. either wipe cache/Dalvik is NOT completely clean wipe or
b. it was completely clean but somehow, those old cache info, which stored somewhere I don't know, get automatically restored back.
Okay, I did a quick read of the FAQ for CWR, and came across these:
Wipe cache partition
Wipes the cache partition of the device to clear all the data accumulated there over use. This is often used before installing a new ROM, app, kernel or any similar mod via recovery.
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Allows you to wipe the cache for the Dalvik virtual machine (the custom-built Java virtual machine for Android).This is required before most ROM installations and at other occasions too, for fixing some problems.
So, I'm taking this guide on board and will wiping Cache AND Davlik. So that's two steps prior to installing a new CM7 nightly build.
votinh said:
I think I need to drop a few lines about wipe cache/Dalvik. *snip*
a. either wipe cache/Dalvik is NOT completely clean wipe or
b. it was completely clean but somehow, those old cache info, which stored somewhere I don't know, get automatically restored back.
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You didn't happen to store them in uSD card? Or perhaps app data/cache are separate from system data/cache...
Will look into it further...

Flashing on N4

Ok, maybe this is n00bish but Ive never had a nexus device.
On my gs1, tf700 and such everything is flashed from the microsd card. If this device doesnt have one, how do you flash without loosing data?
Ive always learned, 1 wipe data, cache etc. 2. Flash rom/kernel (sometimes 3 wipe again)
Wont this clear your phones storage? This is a HUGE selling factor for me.
Im due for a upgrade outa pocket and I cant decide from GS3, Nexus 4, Note 2 or holding out for rumored gs4
Thanks guys
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Clear Data does not wipe internal storage, just apps+data. If you were doing that, first back up using Titanium Backup, flash new ROM, restore from TiBU, PROFIT!!!
For backing up text messages, theres an app, though I can't remember the name.
Isnt there also an option that wipes everything? Factory reset or whatever. It cleans the rom and all I thought. Thats how we avoid bugs from rom hopping? Like I said Im n00b in nexusville but vanilla jellybeans sound delicious
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There's separate partitions on the phone. Part for the system, part for your data, and then basically an internal SD Card. You would wipe the same way you would on any other phone: Wipe data/factory reset, format boot, system, cache, data, dalvik cache, etc, then flash your ROM. Your "internal" SD card will be untouched.
At least that's how I assume it would work...
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kcls said:
There's separate partitions on the phone. Part for the system, part for your data, and then basically an internal SD Card. You would wipe the same way you would on any other phone: Wipe data/factory reset, format boot, system, cache, data, dalvik cache, etc, then flash your ROM. Your "internal" SD card will be untouched.
At least that's how I assume it would work...
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Yup thats how it works. 'SD Card' partition is untouched during a wipe (though the bootloader unlock command will wipe absolutely everything, you just use that once when you first get the phone and its all good).
anirudh412 said:
Clear Data does not wipe internal storage, just apps+data. If you were doing that, first back up using Titanium Backup, flash new ROM, restore from TiBU, PROFIT!!!
For backing up text messages, theres an app, though I can't remember the name.
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SMS Backup and restore
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
Isnt there also an option that wipes everything? Factory reset or whatever. It cleans the rom and all I thought. Thats how we avoid bugs from rom hopping? Like I said Im n00b in nexusville but vanilla jellybeans sound delicious
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You are correct. But factory reset/ clear data even though wipes the phone clean, the 'internal SD card partition' isn't wiped. Meaning you would still have your pictures, videos and such. And also backup files. So once you do that and boot into the new rom, install TiBU from the market and restore your backup.
For a complete and 'true' wipe, as someone already mentioned, you could use ODIN/ Toolkit. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Using TWRP. You can wipe: cache, dalvik, factory reset, system. You can wipe all of those and your internal store will not be wiped. Now with TWRP you can also wipe internal and external storage, do that and you will be SOL.

Casuals recovery

I rooted with casual and have the recovery installed. My question is I supposedly full wiped and flashed Goldeneye. My issue is it didnt full wipe because when I go into internal memory all the crap that should be gone, its folders are still there taking memory so I have to manually delete. Am I doing something wrong ?
When I had my htc a full wipe meant a full wipe Everything gone. Dont understand why its not happening on my s4.
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go into recovery and do a factory reset, it will clear it.
Thanks
That dont work all the folders are still there even though the apps are not installed.
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most recoverys are set up to format data without touching the internal storage. this is a feature, not a bug. if you want to wipe internal, go to format, then format internal. easy peasy
Reinaldo33897 said:
I rooted with casual and have the recovery installed. My question is I supposedly full wiped and flashed Goldeneye. My issue is it didnt full wipe because when I go into internal memory all the crap that should be gone, its folders are still there taking memory so I have to manually delete. Am I doing something wrong ?
When I had my htc a full wipe meant a full wipe Everything gone. Dont understand why its not happening on my s4.
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Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.
chocodough said:
Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.
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just make sure you don't have anything you care about, like Roms or nandroids, in /sdcard.
fwiw this isn't a CASUAL issue, its a TWRP issue.
Awesome was looking for the correct way to do a Total Full Wipe in recovery.
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chocodough said:
Here is what I do when I flash a ROM. I am a bit OCD for flashing cleanly.
1) Boot into Recovery
2) Wipe Data (Factory reset)
3) Wipe Cache
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache
5) Format /System
6) Format /sdcard
Then I flash my ROM. Those steps will definitely clean everything out before you flash. Especially formatting /system and /sdcard.
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It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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jd1639 said:
It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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Ya it might be a little bit overkill, but atleast this way you know everything is cleaned and wiped before you flash your ROM. I hate dirty flashing ROMS, so I prefer to be really thorough.
jd1639 said:
It's a little over kill. Just need to wipe the caches and data. If you wipe system, just make sure you do it before you flash a rom. And make sure you flash a rom before you boot. Wiping system and then rebooting is detrimental to your phone.
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It might be overkill but I like to make sure its a complete wipe even if I have to overkill it. Thanks all for the replies.
EDIT: DO NOT FORMAT INTERNAL if you have twrp the part where you have to type in yes. You will have serious issues and will end up ODIN back to stock to repair. If you format internal in twrp phone will not boot up. You can enter recover but if you power off phone will not boot up again.

[Q] Does a factory reset in TWRP also wipe internal storage/sdcard?

This has not been asked in the 2012 N7 forums before apparently. If a factory reset wipes /data partition and cache partitions, would it also clear the internal storage located at /data/media? I've seen some people reporting CWM makes sure not to touch anything on other devices, but I haven't heard anything about TWRP on a Nexus 7.
Nah, it doesnt, in 2.6.0.0 there is advanced wipe option and there you must choose "internal sd"... "data, cache and dalvik cache" is only a factory reset, you lose your apps only
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shevich said:
Nah, it doesnt, in 2.6.0.0 there is advanced wipe option and there you must choose "internal sd"... "data, cache and dalvik cache" is only a factory reset, you lose your apps only
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So basically, if I were to select Wipe, then Factory Reset, internal SD is left intact unless I do an advanced wipe? Or the other way around, I have to do an advanced wipe to keep the internal SD card?
Alright, just updated TWRP, see what you mean. Thanks!

[Q] How do I FULLY wipe my device?

Might be a stupid question, but anyone know how to do this? I want to only keep PSX And neo with no other data on it (Such as games that require downloaded data, apps and etc). Wiping data on CWM doesn't wipe everything (Yes I did cache and dalvik as well), would wiping the sdcard wipe everything and leave the ROM? Hopefully someone can help, thanks
Also, if the only way of wiping brings me back to stock/unrooted, would I still have CWM installed to install custom ROMs and such still?
These are the wipes you are looking for:
1. wipe data/factory reset
2. wipe cache partition
3. mounts and storage > format sdcard
4. advanced > wipe dalvik cache
That should leave you with a empty/clean internal sd card, no data (apps, settings, etc.), and your current rom and kernel.
if you want to completely wipe everything and go back to stock Android, just use one of the toolkit and flash stock image. it will wipe everything in the phone.
Or just fast boot the images including the userdata file it'll erase the entire phone memory. Toolkits are convenient but you should know how to use fastboot too it saved me when my recovery wouldn't boot and there was no ROM on the phone.
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