[Q] Are you using ClockworkMod Superuser or sticking with SuperSU?

[Q] Are you using ClockworkMod Superuser or sticking with SuperSU? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I asked this question in the general forum, but what are my fellow Nexus 4 owners using?

I've been using supersu since its creation. I own the pro version too. (I spend too much on apps )

scottx . said:
I've been using supersu since its creation. I own the pro version too. (I spend too much on apps )
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I jumped on the SuperSU wagon too and also have the pro version, simply because the consensus was that it is better than Superuser, but now there seems to be a lot of hype around ClockworkMod Superuser.

This is why you should use Superuser by Koush.
https://github.com/koush/Superuser
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trentreed said:
This is why you should use Superuser by Koush.
https://github.com/koush/Superuser
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This goes back to what I said about transparency. It's great that you can see everything about the app and that it isn't doing anything dodgy in the background, but does this leave it open to exploits?
Would someone out there be able to use their knowledge of the code to their advantage?

When a little more mature I'll give it a go (or once CM include it)

SuperSU always worked great for me and never had any issues and off course i also bought the Pro app. I think Chainfire is a genius and the app is constantly beeing updated and improved. And just because another app is is fully open it doesn`t mean it is automaticaly better.

Just Me said:
This goes back to what I said about transparency. It's great that you can see everything about the app and that it isn't doing anything dodgy in the background, but does this leave it open to exploits?
Would someone out there be able to use their knowledge of the code to their advantage?
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You're right on both points, and both of those are actually the advantages of open source. Because it is there for everyone to see, anyone can take a look and point out the bugs, security holes, etc... which, theoritically, will leads to less exploits for bad guys to use.
Think about it as newspaper or peer-review journal. When what you do is there in plain text for everyone to see and criticize, the end products tends to have much higher quality and less errors.
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KyraOfFire said:
You're right on both points, and both of those are actually the advantages of open source. Because it is there for everyone to see, anyone can take a look and point out the bugs, security holes, etc... which, theoritically, will leads to less exploits for bad guys to use.
Think about it as newspaper or peer-review journal. When what you do is there in plain text for everyone to see and criticize, the end products tends to have much higher quality and less errors.
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Based on what you've said, it may be better to wait until it's been around for a while, similar to what 'EddyOS' said above. This way any exploits can be patched?

Just Me said:
Based on what you've said, it may be better to wait until it's been around for a while, similar to what 'EddyOS' said above. This way any exploits can be patched?
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The other superusers can and do have just as many exploits but you'd never know as they are not open so you'd never know if they got patched or not. That's pretty much the point of making it open sourced. I like Koush's work so I'm giving it a try and haven't run into any problems with it yet but only have been running it since yesterday.

If CM implements it

SuperSu is fine with me. I personally don't care about it being open source or not. Chain fire is a great developer.
Why change what works for the past four years of android.
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I'm on Koush's SU. Open source is nice (although SuperSU not being open source wasn't something that concerned me). And I now have an entry in my settings menu for Superuser which is a great spot for it to live.

Also using Koush's SU, because i use PA ROM and it's implemented there.
Hope Koush brings more features in his SU with the time.

zephiK said:
Why change what works for the past four years of android.
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ChainsDD's Superuser hasn't worked that well since Gingerbread, and that left CF's SuperSU as the only functional SU. With Koush's SU CM can include a fully functional, open source solution in their build now. As much as I like SuperSU it shouldn't be the only option.

Supersu pro here haven't used super user since it didn't work on jb when I got the phone but have pro purchased for both
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Just installed Koush's Superuser seems good so far.
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Added a poll to this thread, as the other thread didn't spark the debate that I would have hoped.
What I'm generally getting is that in the future, ClockworkMod Superuser will possibly be better than SuperSU, but for now there is no real benefit/advantage to switching.
The only good thing right now as 'CMNein' said, is that there's a 2nd option.

It would appear the next CM nightly will now be using the new Superuser package...
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=mako

i switched over to superuser completely for paranoidandroid.
i think koush is an amazing developer and he's got an eye for design as well. i just love seeing his apps adapt. the way he's written superuser is genius, especially the settings integration.
i like that its open source and thats pretty much a necessity for such an important app.
well, and superuser behaves like a cog, it does what it should.
superSu has become self-conscious in that aspect. i know the developer must eat too, and i bought superSu of course, but its toasts made a joke out of any rom using it. my experience is that xda is usually very supportive - you dont need to force people, they will help out on their own because they are nice.
chainfire was very thoughtful and friendly of course, and immediately considered circumventing the nag-toast for roms. but just asking for it in his thread got me some good kicks in the stomach by his followers - that was pretty much the point where i started thinking i wanna be less dependent on it. if i dont like something in koushs implementation i fork and rewrite it - thats the way i prefer it.

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Can't decide if I should root my atrix or not

Hi there,
I am debating if I should root my Atrix or not. I checked out few posts and they seem a bit complecated. Also, I found this article saying carriers will track down rooted devices and restricted services.
By the way, can I still install some of Motorola o/s for dock stations? I have a multimedia and a car dock.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
Any thoughts?

No one will track you down and restrict you. And it's very safe to root.
Just for apps like Adfree which kills advertisements, this is reason enough for me to root! Not to mention super helpful things like customer recovery to back things up, the ability to sideload (install non-market apps if you're on AT&T), etc.
Android is quite open source but rooting opens up another amazing realm of extremely essential apps.

bongd said:
No one will track you down and restrict you. And it's very safe to root.
Just for apps like Adfree which kills advertisements, this is reason enough for me to root! Not to mention super helpful things like customer recovery to back things up, the ability to sideload (install non-market apps if you're on AT&T), etc.
Android is quite open source but rooting opens up another amazing realm of extremely essential apps.
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I will take your word for it then! Just kidding. Would you be able recommend any good root techniques on the forum? I think there are few methods and am not sure which one is the best.
Thank you!

I say root it. I rooted mine and i love it this way. I had mine for only two days before I rooted it. I was a little nervous at first and felt that i really didnt want to do it, but the benefits were too great with a rooted phone than without a rooted phone. I am on the AT&T network and i hate it when someone tries to tell me what I can't do with something I purchased. Trust me when i say that you are going to want software that is not in the market as well.
And... I really, really love the fact that I don't need to be docked to use my WebTop.
Again... i say root it.

janggu said:
I will take your word for it then! Just kidding. Would you be able recommend any good root techniques on the forum? I think there are few methods and am not sure which one is the best.
Thank you!
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Gladroot. It's the easiest and can enable tethering and sideloading as well.
You must be on 1.2.6 to root. You can run their first script which will root it. You can then do AT&T's download and run their second script which will root that too. BOOM!
It shouldn't take any longer than 10 minutes.

Well... there was that one thing where AT&T is supposedly locking out, or might be locking out phones that have been determined to be rooted. But the fact of the matter is, if they do that with absolutely no reason other than the phone being rooted, i'm sure you'll see a class action lawsuit about it since rooting/jailbreaking a cell phone is legal now according to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The only reason i can see them disabling service is if you root it, and use one of the alternate methods of tethering, and wind up using a TON of bandwidth.... well over what anyone would even remotely do on just the phone if they didn't have any tethering package or way to tether. Then you'd basically be using their networks in a way that could be deemed illegal. But there's no issue with just rooting it to use applications not approved by the carrier or phone manufacturer.

Would you want to be admin on your own computer?

I think rooting is a must. The use of sideloading alone is worth it. I would hate to not be able to use the Amazon Appstore, Ive really come to like it.
One thing to mention though. The Blockbuster app detects root and wont allow content to be purchased because of DRM concerns. I dont know if this will be a problem with future apps.

Yeah, I did!
I rooted my Atrix with "gladroot" last night. Can't wait to customize it now.
Thank you very much for your valid inputs everyone!!!

Where are these non market apps that everyone speaks of
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JohnnyDanger said:
One thing to mention though. The Blockbuster app detects root....
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What's Blockbuster? ;-)
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I know right. I was just using that as an example. Never know what might be blocked next.
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Super Content With the (m)Atrix ; )

Hey guys, just wanted to express my love for the phone and let you know some things I did, that you could do too in order to love your beast a little more.
First off, I rooted at 1.26 and then updated and rooted again at 1.57 (used the root that says you need to root before going to 1.57)
Second, I got several mischievous mods and fun stuff that rooters can only have. (This alone made my phone twice as good...cough...tethering apk..cough...can't say what else)
Third, after figuring out how to make the battery run good, I downloaded a bunch of music and just enjoyed the sweet super loud speaker (covered) while I took a nice hot shower.
Lastly, and this took a while to figure out due to the fact that im no dev. I located on the android dev page the webtop via hdmi and made it so I could do just that. I tried doing the whole adb thing, I tried my own way with root explorer and the installer for 1.26. But nothing worked except for the 4.1.57 (w/chinese font fix) one. I highly recommend it! Go check it out!
Overall, I have a super fast (faster than the iphone 4

Good to see positive things about the atrix!
I love this phone as well its greatly sized and the screen is really nice and the haptic feedback is phenominal. The speed goes without saying and the battery life is good too.
So glad I switched from an iphone 4
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I agree, it was a great movie.

pzaragoza1 said:
Hey guys, just wanted to express my love for the phone and let you know some things I did, that you could do too in order to love your beast a little more.
First off, I rooted at 1.26 and then updated and rooted again at 1.57 (used the root that says you need to root before going to 1.57)
Second, I got several mischievous mods and fun stuff that rooters can only have. (This alone made my phone twice as good...cough...tethering apk..cough...can't say what else)
Third, after figuring out how to make the battery run good, I downloaded a bunch of music and just enjoyed the sweet super loud speaker (covered) while I took a nice hot shower.
Lastly, and this took a while to figure out due to the fact that im no dev. I located on the android dev page the webtop via hdmi and made it so I could do just that. I tried doing the whole adb thing, I tried my own way with root explorer and the installer for 1.26. But nothing worked except for the 4.1.57 (w/chinese font fix) one. I highly recommend it! Go check it out!
Overall, I have a super fast (faster than the iphone 4 <if you know the right things to do to make it so- and yes I've had one> tethering, apk powerhouse, webtop ready, rooted monster. We should all enjoy the speed of this phone, as well as its capabilities. I don't like to change roms and all that because of bad experiences, and I feel like I've done all that I can. Just wanted to share with you guys my story, and hopefully encourage utilizing what these great devs have created for us.
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I was like you when i first got my HTC Inc, i was able to root it and all and then do other kewl stuff with it. But when i attempted to install a rom on it, with no research done before hand as to how to properly do so, it really threw me for a loop for a good month before i actually started "asking" people for help on the forums. Overall, everyone was pretty responsive and quite helpful, so i encourage you to try out some of the psuedo-roms available. There are three thus far and they're called psuedo roms because our Atrix bootloaders are still locked, so until it's unlocked we can only make minor changes to the framework of the phone.
If you need any help as to how you can install any of the three available roms, here are some links that will prove quite valuable in your quest to further enhancing the aesthetics and functionalities your phone.
1. This link will help you get your phone rooted and retained after the update . But since you already have it rooted and updated, then you can immediately proceed to Part 3!
2. This link is for the GingerBlur v1.3 psuedo-rom.
3. This link is for the GreyBlur v2.1 psuedo-rom.
4. This link is for the GladiAtrix2 v4.2.3 psuedo-rom and it also has instructions on it =P
Of the three, i've only tried GingerBlur and GreyBlur and haven't had time to get around to GladiAtrix2 yet, but the ones i did try are both great. If i had to recommend one for you, i'd say go with GreyBlur just because of my personal preference, i like the theme and icon set better than the stock and GingerBlur ones.
Another great reason to try the Blur Rom series is that both roms have a "Blocked Advertising" feature! In short, if you have apps that give you pop-up ads, they'll be gone! And probably the one app you'll appreciate this the most for is YouTube, because you won't have those 15 second ads anymore =]
If you need any other help, don't be afraid to ask, the XDA community is very open and responsive =] Btw, glad to see you're enjoying your Atrix, it is truly a great device!

TfzSCVang said:
I was like you when i first got my HTC Inc, i was able to root it and all and then do other kewl stuff with it. But when i attempted to install a rom on it, with no research done before hand as to how to properly do so, it really threw me for a loop for a good month before i actually started "asking" people for help on the forums. Overall, everyone was pretty responsive and quite helpful, so i encourage you to try out some of the psuedo-roms available. There are three thus far and they're called psuedo roms because our Atrix bootloaders are still locked, so until it's unlocked we can only make minor changes to the framework of the phone.
If you need any help as to how you can install any of the three available roms, here are some links that will prove quite valuable in your quest to further enhancing the aesthetics and functionalities your phone.
1. This link will help you get your phone rooted and retained after the update . But since you already have it rooted and updated, then you can immediately proceed to Part 3!
2. This link is for the GingerBlur v1.3 psuedo-rom.
3. This link is for the GreyBlur v2.1 psuedo-rom.
4. This link is for the GladiAtrix2 v4.2.3 psuedo-rom and it also has instructions on it =P
Of the three, i've only tried GingerBlur and GreyBlur and haven't had time to get around to GladiAtrix2 yet, but the ones i did try are both great. If i had to recommend one for you, i'd say go with GreyBlur just because of my personal preference, i like the theme and icon set better than the stock and GingerBlur ones.
Another great reason to try the Blur Rom series is that both roms have a "Blocked Advertising" feature! In short, if you have apps that give you pop-up ads, they'll be gone! And probably the one app you'll appreciate this the most for is YouTube, because you won't have those 15 second ads anymore =]
If you need any other help, don't be afraid to ask, the XDA community is very open and responsive =] Btw, glad to see you're enjoying your Atrix, it is truly a great device!
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Thank you so much for such a great response to my post! I will definitely look more into the psuedo roms. Thank you for the links. I enjoy this phone very much and I would love to make it even better. Oh and happy easter!
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BravoMotorola said:
Yea I'm loving my mARIX to. Too bad the Matrix is an old Pantech phone from 2008 (the one that could slide out the keypad and the keyboard at the same time)
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Ha! I missed that completely. However, I was embarrassed for about a millisecond because I realized this phone could be called the matrix. So if you were trying to make fun of me, im sorry but you have instead made me realize that calling it the matrix is far better than the atrix. I will change the name so others could know which phone I was talking about, but I will now dub thus beast the matrix. Thanks buddy!
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sgtmedeiros said:
So glad I switched from an iphone 4
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I switched from an iPhone 3G, needless to say I love this phone.

Call to Arms! - Root detection

There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!

irzero said:
There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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I know that feel bro
*insert hug meme*

irzero said:
There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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There are some apps out there that will temp unroot your phone so apps like that will work. then you just restore it(OTA rootkeeper allows this). Also I think Siyah kernel supports temp unrooting

graffixnyc said:
There are some apps out there that will temp unroot your phone so apps like that will work. then you just restore it(OTA rootkeeper allows this). Also I think Siyah kernel supports temp unrooting
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Siyah kernel does support temp unrooting, but somehow Sky Go still knows your phone is rooted, and it won't work. So far from the reading I have done there is no solution to this other than to flash back to a stock unrooted firmware.

I don't think it will become the rule on android, because there are to many apps that even need root, but at ios, probably because jailbreak is the only possibility to get, at least partially, out of their ecosystem.
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someone found a work around for the Barclays banking app I think...I'm sure it was here in general so you may find some hints there
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823649
[HOW TO] Barclays Mobile Banking working on rooted S3

As far as I know. Sky Go has gotten around everything so far.
I see not to far in the future a situation where you have to either root and lose lots of apps you use or lose the root lose lots of apps you use.
That's a crap situation for sure
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Sky have invested a heck of a lot of time and money to making the latest Sky Go apps very very hard to hack!
They now do a lot of checking on their severs which makes it impossible for us to hack around.
I am sorry but I don't think we will ever get sky go working properly with root, and as soon as we did sky would update the app to fix the loophole.

Google won't do anything because rooted android isn't standard android. The android platform isn't built like windows or OS X, where the default is the user having root available.
Therefore security (DRM in particular) on those platforms is built with that in mind. Android isn't.
Also, while you might have the best of intentions there are plenty of root-users who would use it to copy content offline, trick it into thinking you have a subscription whe you don't etc.
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Lennyuk said:
Sky have invested a heck of a lot of time and money to making the latest Sky Go apps very very hard to hack!
They now do a lot of checking on their severs which makes it impossible for us to hack around.
I am sorry but I don't think we will ever get sky go working properly with root, and as soon as we did sky would update the app to fix the loophole.
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This sux for sure.
On iPad they sandboxed the app in its own virtual environment. could this trick it into think its running on unrooted firmware?

I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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Google won't do anything because rooted android isn't standard android. The android platform isn't built like windows or OS X, where the default is the user having root available.
Therefore security (DRM in particular) on those platforms is built with that in mind. Android isn't.
Also, while you might have the best of intentions there are plenty of root-users who would use it to copy content offline, trick it into thinking you have a subscription whe you don't etc.
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You cant get the content without a subscription anyway, the problem has been people UDID spoofing and getting more active devices than they are allowed. Its a joke that they limit this anyway they should just make it so you can only be logged in on 2 devices at any one time using traditional methods like IP address and IMEI

alias_neo said:
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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temporary unroot doesnt even work so i dont know how it works personally. Out of my depth on this

alias_neo said:
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!

Lennyuk said:
The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
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Why would that stop wifi tablets? it works on my iPad wifi only?

irzero said:
Why would that stop wifi tablets? it works on my iPad wifi only?
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the Apple skygo app works differently, it doesn't check for IMEI.
wifi-only android tablets do not have IMEI numbers so it will always fail this check

Lennyuk said:
The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
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How in earth does this user space application have the ability to check custom recovery? I suppose kernel might be easy, but recovery??
Still, there must be ways around it.
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alias_neo said:
How in earth does this user space application have the ability to check custom recovery? I suppose kernel might be easy, but recovery??
Still, there must be ways around it.
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Thats the thing, we (me and two others who worked on hacking this app) couldn't work it out! But it definitely was detecting it, we tried it on Samsung and HTC devices with no root and stock kernel but with a custom recovery and sky go stopped worked, change back to stock recovery and the app works again but we could not find any code that checked it.
On most devices to get it to work you need a stock based rom, stock recovery (unless recovery is part of kernel like S2) stock based kernel (ro.secure=1 must be set!) no or hidden root. You then need to make sure you fit the device or version checks, if you don't you need a hacked app that allows you to do this.
However the latest sky go apps do a sever side check for the apps signature (so you cannot decompile and recompile without changing this). So basically we can no longer do even the most basic of hacks.

Lennyuk said:
Thats the thing, we (me and two others who worked on hacking this app) couldn't work it out! But it definitely was detecting it, we tried it on Samsung and HTC devices with no root and stock kernel but with a custom recovery and sky go stopped worked, change back to stock recovery and the app works again but we could not find any code that checked it.
On most devices to get it to work you need a stock based rom, stock recovery (unless recovery is part of kernel like S2) stock based kernel (ro.secure=1 must be set!) no or hidden root. You then need to make sure you fit the device or version checks, if you don't you need a hacked app that allows you to do this.
However the latest sky go apps do a sever side check for the apps signature (so you cannot decompile and recompile without changing this). So basically we can no longer do even the most basic of hacks.
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Surely you can modify it to spoof the signature the app uses to send to the server...
They really have gone all out eh.
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Well done sky, you bastards!
I have a Nexus 7 2012 WiFi only so ytheres no chance of using it on there :'(
Thanks LennyUK

NFL Mobile + root = no go???

So as some of you may already know, the latest update for the NFL Mobile app (came out this morning I think) has officially killed its functionality with rooted (or "non stock Android") devices. A story on Android Police can be see here.
At any rate, I saw a recent post on a GSIII forum (here)where the user claimed to have a workaround which, among other things, involved renaming the superuser.apk, however if you're using CM nowadays then you'll know there really isn't a separate apk - instead it is now integrated into the rom. That being said, does anyone have any idea similar to this that might work for tricking the app into thinking it isn't running on a rooted unit? I have no clue myself, but seeing as how no one has started a dedicated thread for this in the forum of the current Google flagship phone, I thought I'd get things started.
Thanks in advance people!

Well I guess it looks like no one has any ideas...? Oh well, a rare swing-and-a-miss for solutions in the xda community

A quick fix would be to just find the apk for an older version and install that one. That's what I'm currently trying to do, there's no reason for then to block us from using it just because we're rooted.
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Kyle C said:
A quick fix would be to just find the apk for an older version and install that one. That's what I'm currently trying to do, there's no reason for then to block us from using it just because we're rooted.
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Well yeah, I mean I already uninstalled and then restored a backed up version of the app using Titanium Backup. The problem is - and if you've been a user of the NFL apps over the last year or two then you'll know this - that the NFL app is not like most apps where each upgrade just adds some incremental upgrades or changes. With this app the upgrades are typically pushed out right before the start of the key timeframes of the NFL season: usually an update right before preseason; another before the start of the regular season; another at the start of the playoffs; another right before the Super Bowl; and once more right before the draft in April. Each update is specific to that time period of the season and usually contains the critical information/tweaks/additions/UI alterations specific for that segment of the year. Point being, after missing an update or two, the app becomes extremely outdated and eventually useless. And that's why, in the mid-to-long term, just using the older version of the apk unfortunately isn't a useful alternative. Damn you NFL! Now we just have to hope the xda community will come to the rescue as they usually are able to do

joeski27 said:
Well yeah, I mean I already uninstalled and then restored a backed up version of the app using Titanium Backup. The problem is - and if you've been a user of the NFL apps over the last year or two then you'll know this - that the NFL app is not like most apps where each upgrade just adds some incremental upgrades or changes. With this app the upgrades are typically pushed out right before the start of the key timeframes of the NFL season: usually an update right before preseason; another before the start of the regular season; another at the start of the playoffs; another right before the Super Bowl; and once more right before the draft in April. Each update is specific to that time period of the season and usually contains the critical information/tweaks/additions/UI alterations specific for that segment of the year. Point being, after missing an update or two, the app becomes extremely outdated and eventually useless. And that's why, in the mid-to-long term, just using the older version of the apk unfortunately isn't a useful alternative. Damn you NFL! Now we just have to hope the xda community will come to the rescue as they usually are able to do
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Ooooh gotcha. I didn't realize that that's how NFL ran their app. That's really annoying.

i'm not rooted, but that does seem like somebody went off the deep end with this app. rooting a device won't hurt their revenue, in fact, it will probably increase it from allowing ALL Android (and iOS) devices access the app. instead, they're cutting off access to a HUGE chunk of their fans, present and future. in essence, they're biting the hand that feeds them.
i voted the app down in the app store out of principal alone.

I am extremely displeased with this as well and am searching for a solution. Leave it to Verizon to try to control how you use YOUR phone.

hey is this an nfl app for verizon or a market version for all?

playya said:
hey is this an nfl app for verizon or a market version for all?
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From what I gather there are two different versions - the one that comes on Verizon phones, and the one that anyone else can grab from the Play Store. I have the Play Store version (as a TMo customer).

@joeski27
Block removed. Enjoy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395333

Its working for me on pa
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Working on 4.3 stock rooted.
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CNexus said:
@joeski27
Block removed. Enjoy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395333
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Boss.

CNexus said:
@joeski27
Block removed. Enjoy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395333
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And THAT is why the xda community is PRICELESS! You're my hero, well done and a big tip of the cap to you, CNex! Long live xda, and long live Android!!! And btw I'll do my best to spread the word to the countless other forums on xda for other devices with people trying to find th same solution!

joeski27 said:
And THAT is why the xda community is PRICELESS! You're my hero, well done and a big tip of the cap to you, CNex! Long live xda, and long live Android!!! And btw I'll do my best to spread the word to the countless other forums on xda for other devices with people trying to find th same solution!
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Awesome, sounds good
Just in posting my thread I got a ton of hits of people freaking out about the new app...lol

FYI, they have fixed the app and it is now working perfectly fine on rooted devices strait from the play store

I might be the only one it's not working for. Wondering if anyone can help.
I cannot get 95% of the buttons to work in the Fantasy section of the app. Not only that, when I said 'to hell with the app' and went to their mobile site (which looks exactly like the app), I got the same thing... 95% of the buttons on the mobile site wouldn't do anything.
Now, on my N7, everything works fine.
Any ideas?
Edit: It was Ad Away. Can't use the app while it's running. Now I'll try to find the hosts file and see if I can edit the NFL entries out of it.

Google Pixel Rooted

Google Pixel has been rooted, and no surprises as to who did it.
https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791576935977644032
He also goes on to say
"That root is with verity disabled and modified /system. Going to continue trying to get it working without this requirement."
Enjoy and Have a good weekend ahead peeps!!
Edit
Systemless root achieved.
https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791748015925161984

ohh man amazing!!!

Why hasn't Google hired him yet?

What is this "varity" thing that gets disabled?

matrix0886 said:
What is this "varity" thing that gets disabled?
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http://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-at-marshmallow-root-verity-complications/

"Victory is mine! Full systemless root achieved. Boot image mods only, /system fully intact, dm-verity switchable. #pixel"

"@ChainfireXDA: It's done! Going to take a break now. Release later today or tomorrow. Can't wait for you guys to find all the bugs /s"
#ChainfireTweets
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Hahahaha, lol. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING special about pixel in regards to root. Works JUST LIKE every Nexus running 6.0+. I was running with root on ours on **october 20th**.

doitright said:
Hahahaha, lol. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING special about pixel in regards to root. Works JUST LIKE every Nexus running 6.0+. I was running with root on ours on **october 20th**.
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Eh? I think,
You are wrong....
There is pretty much EVERYTHING DECENT about Chainfire's ability and dedication to continue rooting each successive version of Android. Pixel was first to ship with 7.1, and there ARE differences between the new systemless root and 6.0 or 6.0.1 root methodology.
Why does your message just sound like a CALITALIZED rambling of a spoilsport? I dunno. It does to me, anyway.
There is like nothing special about ANYthing new, got us there aha!
I like the advent of new tech and new methods, even if novelty is old by now.
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nednednerb said:
Eh? I think,
You are wrong....
There is pretty much EVERYTHING DECENT about Chainfire's ability and dedication to continue rooting each successive version of Android. Pixel was first to ship with 7.1, and there ARE differences between the new systemless root and 6.0 or 6.0.1 root methodology.
Why does your message just sound like a CALITALIZED rambling of a spoilsport? I dunno. It does to me, anyway.
There is like nothing special about ANYthing new, got us there aha!
I like the advent of new tech and new methods, even if novelty is old by now.
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No there isn't.
The only explanation for keeping the source code closed, is because he is HIDING something in it. I wouldn't touch that garbage if my life depended on it.
WHY DO YOU THINK I MAINTAIN MY OWN SOURCE?
And like I already said, there was *absolutely nothing* special about the pixel.
He's just trying to drum up an "awww cool" factor that is undeserved.

doitright said:
No there isn't.
The only explanation for keeping the source code closed, is because he is HIDING something in it. I wouldn't touch that garbage if my life depended on it.
WHY DO YOU THINK I MAINTAIN MY OWN SOURCE?.
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I literally have a diagnosis of schizophrenia, and you might not. However, I can instantly recognise paranoid conspiracy theory.
Literally, the "only" reason -ever- for *shudder* an Android dev protecting some measure of private and intellectual property is..... He is evil and hiding his violence from all of us!?
Cool story bro.
Maintain your own source if you want, but people are allowed to keep some property to themselves.
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