[Q] Battery acting strange - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello fellow Nexus 4 owners,
I recently bought my Nexus 4, and my first impression is great.
Really fast smartphone, absolute butter, great screen and so on..
Now i noticed something strange with my battery.
When the phone is idle when the screen is off, the percentage of my battery doesnt reduce that fast at all.
Now when i use the phone after some time idle, the battery percentage drops like 1-2% instantly.
Example: The phone is idling @ 50% battery, starting to use the phone, the percentage drops to ~48%, and skips 49%.
Now is my question: Is this normal in the first few days (weeks) of the Nexus 4? Will it eventually stop?
Looking forward reading your answers.
~Max

The battery level doesn't show a accurate reading. It's a known bug. I hate it and so does everyone who has experienced it.
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Allright, so i'm not the only one having this problem.
Doesn't it have something to do with conditioning the battery? or is that just a myth?

mumaster20 said:
Allright, so i'm not the only one having this problem.
Doesn't it have something to do with conditioning the battery? or is that just a myth?
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It's mostly software related. But it's always good to calibrate the battery.
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Nexus 4 Battery Life

Hey Guys,
A bunch of people are complaining about the battery life on Nexus 4. I've been waited for a couple days since I got the device, to have enough confident about the battery before I make any post here. Yes, the phone battery drain pretty fast on the first few cycles. After a bunch more charges later, let me tell this, the battery life did get significantly better. It lasted about 10-15 hr depends on the load of the usage.
Here is my typical day, off the charge at 100% in the morning, listen to a few songs, checking emails, and messages while getting ready for school. About an 30mn to 1hr of internet browser and youtube videos while on the bus. By 1-2pm the battery drop the about 70-80%. I put the phone in silent mood til i'm done with all my classes. On the way back home on the bus, I listened to a bunch of music, web browsing, maybe a few phone calls, texts or games.
Compare to my old phone, Samsung Galaxy S2 T989, im impressed with the Nexus 4 battery life. My Galaxy S2 battery always die on the bus coming back home. What I'm trying to get at: if you're a light to medium user like me, then get this phone. I was hesitate at first because I always have bad experience with android battery life. But Google seem to get its OS right with this nexus device, mainly because the battery drain minimum while in sleeping mood.
Can you post your Nexus 4 battery performance screenshot if you have been using the phone for more than a few days ?
Is there supposed to be a question being asked? Or a statement as this is in the Q&A forum.
I agree with you on many points. People need to wait at least 5 to 7 days for the battery charge to fully kick in. The first days mean absolutely nothing as it is still being aligned plus the user is still installing apps and setting up their phone.
There are some notable problems in the default kernel that uses more battery Usage than normal too.
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From full battery to this overnight + breakfast usage. Rasbean + Matr1x v3.0. Never seen anything like it. Coming from the GN, this phone is a different dimension altogether. On any aspect..
Had phone for 5 days. Drained phone to 10% then fully charged. Moderate to light use made it through a day.
Stock rooted + Franco Kernel.
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Had phone for 5 days. Drained phone to 10% then fully charged. Moderate to light use made it through a day.
Stock rooted + Franco Kernel.
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can someone post how the battery drain is wihr stock kernel with normal using phone ?
what do you think?
Getting this i am on stock kernel and stock rom
is it low?
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Getting this i am on stock kernel and stock rom
is it low?
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Depends on how much screen time you got, which you didn't show us.
The trick is to be careful about using mobile data when signal is bad, I switch to WiFi when home to avoid unnecessary battery drain.
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What is this obsession for battery life, it lasts me well through the day with moderate/heavy use. I charge it at night (if needed) and unless you are homeleless this shouldn`t be a problem. It`s a great phone and i enjoy using it.
gee2012 said:
What is this obsession for battery life, it lasts me well through the day with moderate/heavy use. I charge it at night (if needed) and unless you are homeleless this shouldn`t be a problem. It`s a great phone and i enjoy using it.
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I thought the same until my N4 actually arrived, it seems battery life is abysmal compared to my Optimus 2x which didnt have anything really spectacular in regards to battery size. On my O2x I could get 1.5 - 2.5 days depending on use, hitting atleast 1 .5 which was good and acceptable for me (I can charge at night anyways) however my N4 doesnt even reach 13 hours on similar usage!.
I am quite a light users of smartphones however I do like to have a power phone when it comes to using it on the basis of smoothness and capabilities if I need to say do work on my phone, I rarely play games though. Main usage is 2 email accounts on poll 1 hour steps, a third account that is an exchange server and polls in 30 minute steps and thats about it with some brief browsing and a handful of texts (been a quite time since I got my N4), this is less usage than my O2x and yet it still performs alot worse!
I was hoping of staying with stock as I was expecting it to finally be good, comparing it to LG stock attempts it is but battery life isnt . I will be trying the combo Vangelis13 mentioned, raspbean and matr1x kernel as that seems like a great mix however Parandroid has been on the table and it seems like alot of being are getting good results so I will try it soon .
If I can get more than a day of usage I would be really happy, if I was playing games or doing really heavy tasks I wouldnt expect it to last but right now it is doing pretty much nothing and dieing far to fast!.
One thing I've noticed since coming to N4 from S2 is that phone calls drain battery much more significantly on the N4. I could make an hour long call on my S2 and it would use no more than a couple of percent battery but the N4 used 15% for an hour long phone call the other night.
If I didn't own a nexus 4 and came to this thread to find out about it's battery life I would expect it to be good.
Point is you guys are misinforming everyone. The battery is mediocre and that's it.
It won't last a full day if you use it constantly and I do need two charges / day many times.
Let me put it this way, you will only get roughly 3 hours of screen time on stock everything. If that is good for you then it's will have good battery life, if not then you will say it's got poor battery life.
chrisastrous said:
If I didn't own a nexus 4 and came to this thread to find out about it's battery life I would expect it to be good.
Point is you guys are misinforming everyone. The battery is mediocre and that's it.
It won't last a full day if you use it constantly and I do need two charges / day many times.
Let me put it this way, you will only get roughly 3 hours of screen time on stock everything. If that is good for you then it's will have good battery life, if not then you will say it's got poor battery life.
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It's always incredibly funny when someone comes in saying everyone else's subjective battery advice is bad then claims his subjective battery advice as correct.
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It's always incredibly funny when someone comes in saying everyone else's subjective battery advice is bad then claims his subjective battery advice as correct.
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You clearly misunderstood my post. Food you even read it?
There is nothing subjective about 3 hours screen time.
My battery is fine.
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madmike413 said:
My battery is fine.
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madmike413!!!
How do you got this battery life?!!
mine is insanely bad with trinity kernel and toolbox and paranoid android.
thanks..
StayGreen said:
madmike413!!!
How do you got this battery life?!!
mine is insanely bad with trinity kernel and toolbox and paranoid android.
thanks..
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His phone was mostly on standby/deep sleep mode. That's how it lasted 2days.
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chrisastrous said:
If I didn't own a nexus 4 and came to this thread to find out about it's battery life I would expect it to be good.
Point is you guys are misinforming everyone. The battery is mediocre and that's it.
It won't last a full day if you use it constantly and I do need two charges / day many times.
Let me put it this way, you will only get roughly 3 hours of screen time on stock everything. If that is good for you then it's will have good battery life, if not then you will say it's got poor battery life.
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you are perfectly right.
I come from an iPhone 4s, which I changed because the battery life wasn´t that great and I thought it was time to try something new.
Got the N4 last friday and played around with it during the weekend.
Monday, tuesday and wednesday this week... none of these days I´ve been able to come back home with the phone still on.
I wake up at 7.30am and I usually am back home at 6pm.
In my opinion, and honestly should be in everyone´s opinion, 10 hours of battery life are unacceptable, whatever the usage is (considering that 7.30 of those 10 hours I was at work)
I have till friday this week to return it, which is a pity because the phone is great
i get 5-6 hours sot..
rom is omnirom 5.1.1 hellscore kernel b73.
100mv undervoltage hellsactive governer.
think 7 would be possible if google services would not take a quarter of the battery.
the screen is not taking that much battery as one would think.
think most issues with battery life come from fake original battery replacements.
had 3-4 sot using "original" battery. but after replacing with real genuine from official lg spare parts shop 5-6...
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Quick standby battery drain. Is it normal?

Just switched from my 2 yrs old iPhone 4 to this latest nexus 4. I noticed the standby mode is drain the battery much more significant than my old iPhone 4..
14% drop in less than 2hrs off the plug and only about 22 main of screen time. Is this normal? GPS off, WiFi off since I left my house, just a few minutes after unplug from the main.
Is this normal?
No. That does not seem normal. It may be a service running in the background not allowing the phone to sleep properly. You should be able to use the battery usage display to try track down what it is
Good luck
Rellikzephyr
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That is actually normal. Use deep sleep battery saver or turn mobile data off when not using your phone. It empties my battery really quick too.
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it depends. some days i am able to get 65% after 16 hours of little usage everything still turned on and some days the battery loses charge very quickly in standby if i am in an area going in and out of reception as it struggles to get bars. just check the battery stats and if maps is using a lot of battery then i would recommend turning off location reporting. also, you can try juicedefender to automatically turn off connectivity when the screen is off but it can be kind of annoying but it works well
Keep in mind, the display area of the Nexus 4 is 72.37% larger than an iPhone 4.
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it depends. some days i am able to get 65% after 16 hours of little usage everything still turned on and some days the battery loses charge very quickly in standby if i am in an area going in and out of reception as it struggles to get bars. just check the battery stats and if maps is using a lot of battery then i would recommend turning off location reporting. also, you can try juicedefender to automatically turn off connectivity when the screen is off but it can be kind of annoying but it works well
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Um... that's a bit annoying. I have already turned off GPS (location service). I would expect this late 2012 phone to be at least at par with my 2+ years old iPhone 4 in terms of battery. But now, the 2 year plus Crapple phone seems to be winning the race.
Really love all of the Nexus 4, just that the battery life is putting me a bit off... ;-(
It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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Um... that's a bit annoying. I have already turned off GPS (location service). I would expect this late 2012 phone to be at least at par with my 2+ years old iPhone 4 in terms of battery. But now, the 2 year plus Crapple phone seems to be winning the race.
Really love all of the Nexus 4, just that the battery life is putting me a bit off... ;-(
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This looks pretty normal.
At best on mobile data you can expect about 10% battery drain per 25-30min of screen on time.
With WiFi, 35-40min of screen on time per 10% battery.
That's been my experience at least.
dralways said:
It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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Do you mean that Google is putting together a software fix?? that mean it's a software glitch? but why would you have different battery drainage experience if all those hardware are running same software?
But if it is hardware defect of manufacturer, how can a Google fix it with an update?
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Just switched from my 2 yrs old iPhone 4 to this latest nexus 4. I noticed the standby mode is drain the battery much more significant than my old iPhone 4..
14% drop in less than 2hrs off the plug and only about 22 main of screen time. Is this normal? GPS off, WiFi off since I left my house, just a few minutes after unplug from the main.
Is this normal?
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OP, your battery drain is normal unfortunately. This phone doesn't do well when the screen is on, while on 3G. Most people can get 3-4 hours of screen on time at best on 3G. You're at 86% after 23 minutes, which equates to about 2.74 hours of screen on time. Unfortunately that's probably pretty accurate. Especially if your brightness is higher than 10%. My Galaxy Nexus used to do a little bit better, and reportedly the S3 does a lot better on 3G.
Not H or 3G data but, impressive nevertheless. Root & unlock your phone, flash rasbean (rom) & matr1x (kernel) and enjoy the benefits.
Also, put phone on 2g if you don't surf the web. Much easier on the battery.
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It's a manufacturer's defect with some Nexus 4s that prevents the OS from going into deep sleep mode. I know this because I've had 12 separate Nexus 4s in my possession now. A good unit will remain at 100% for 3+ hours of nothing but deep sleep with the exception of turning on the screen a few times to check battery percentage. A bad unit will drain 20+% in the same time.
The good news is I hear a fix is on its way from Google.
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This might be the dumbest thing I have read on these forums.
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joshnichols189 said:
This might be the dumbest thing I have read on these forums.
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::thumbsup::
The fix part is mere hearsay but here's to hoping for the folk stuck with this terrible flaw.
Vangelis13 said:
Not H or 3G data but, impressive nevertheless. Root & unlock your phone, flash rasbean (rom) & matr1x (kernel) and enjoy the benefits.
Also, put phone on 2g if you don't surf the web. Much easier on the battery.
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Have you tried franco kernel? Is Matr1X better than that?
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Have you tried franco kernel? Is Matr1X better than that?
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No, not yet. Will do soon though. Matr1x is insane though, give it a spin!

Charging habits

I normally leave my Nexus 7 plugged in and turned on when not in use. Is this bad for the battery? Should I be turning it off and leaving it unplugged, or off and plugged in instead? Thanks
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I wouldn't worry, batteries are much better now and last much longer now when used like this.
By the time its an issue you'll be looking for a new tab or you can simply replace the battery, it's easy on the n7.
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In my TF101 I charge it to 100%, then use it until android cries for power (around 15%) then charge again.
Sometimes I charge and use, other times I charge while off. Almost 2 years like this and battery life seems to be as good as when it was new.
I am doing the same thing on the N7.
Anyway, as dexter said, I think it's more easy nowadays than it was with NiMH / NiCd batteries. There are lots of recommendations, but surely most of them will render similar battery life.
I leave it on all the time, charge only when i am @ home or @ office when I notice it has dropped below 40-50%, no problems so far... If I turn it off, I wouldn't get notifications (even though I would on my phone)... but I kinda like to just take it whenever I like and not wait for it to boot...
I've read the more important factor is the opposite, don't let it drain down to 0%.
SDA_Lord said:
I've read the more important factor is the opposite, don't let it drain down to 0%.
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This. Complete discharge is bad for the battery and can cause it to fail completely. As long as one doesn't constantly deplete their battery, it should last the life of the tablet.
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Thanks all, good to hear.
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S4 GT i9505 Snap Dragon Battery Problem

Hi all, I recently purchased a galaxy s4 1.9 Ghz quad core snap dragon and last night I turned off the phone with 26% battery when I lit morning I found a 23% battery! Other thing when i navigate on facebook, with half brightness I consume a lot of battery, for example if i have 5 minutes on facebook consume 4, 5 % battery go! Is it normal?
A different battery level between turning off and back on is nothing unusual, especially only 3%. It's the first release and things will improve as the firmware is updated.
I have no issues with general battery life myself - it is much better than my I9100 ever was. With normal use I go from fully charged to between 30 and 40 percent in around 16-18 hours and considering we're talking about a phone with a 5" 1080p display I don't think there can be any complaints about that. I have never had to recharge during the day.
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Pagnell said:
A different battery level between turning off and back on is nothing unusual, especially only 3%. It's the first release and things will improve as the firmware is updated.
I have no issues with general battery life myself - it is much better than my I9100 ever was. With normal use I go from fully charged to between 30 and 40 percent in around 16-18 hours and considering we're talking about a phone with a 5" 1080p display I don't think there can be any complaints about that. I have never had to recharge during the day.
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What settings do you leave on? I usually don't pass the 10 hour mark without having to recharge. I leave mobile data, sync, screen rotation and multi Window and turn the rest off. The battery life is horrible especially for someone coming from a Note II
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Facebook on S4 is a battery hog for sure. On the 10-11 hours my phone was on, Facebook accounted for 50% of the battery usage, and the screen 26%. Turn of Facebook sync and such, that will improve your battery life.
I don't use Facebook on my I9505, but I have to concur the battery life on this phone is utter garbage.
With mobile data, power saving and sync on, this thing still drains like crazy, there is definitely something wrong somewhere with the S4's battery in general. I've only heard very few people saying it's actually decent, other than that, mine and pretty much everyone else I hear commenting about the S4's battery life agree it's horrible.
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I don't use Facebook on my I9505, but I have to concur the battery life on this phone is utter garbage.
With mobile data, power saving and sync on, this thing still drains like crazy, there is definitely something wrong somewhere with the S4's battery in general. I've only heard very few people saying it's actually decent, other than that, mine and pretty much everyone else I hear commenting about the S4's battery life agree it's horrible.
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I'm at 64% after almost 15 hours... You must have some ****ty apps, try greenify from the play store.
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fstorm said:
I'm at 64% after almost 15 hours... You must have some ****ty apps, try greenify from the play store.
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It's not the apps, it's the phone or the battery.

[Q] Terrible Battery Life

Hi guys, my glaxy s4 has terrible battery life. Like after 5 hours, i need to recharge my phone again. My phone is rooted and on CM 12 (UB ROM). I tried to remove facebook but no luck. How can i improve my battery life? I provided a sceenshot of my battery usage.
I appreciate your help. Thanks in advance
Use BBS and check wakelocks
If ur using it all the way for 5 hours straight, it's normal.
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If ur using it all the way for 5 hours straight, it's normal.
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Are you sure? S4's battery is 2600 mAh. It should take about 15 hours or more to make the battery become low with minutes of gaming.. I have S3 mini and its battery is 1500 mAh and it takes about 12 hours or more to make the battery become low.
I can get 5 hours on 60 percent but I gotta be using battery saver with data off when I lock the acreen
take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59922819&postcount=12
Thanks, i will try it
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Gaming or watching movies will discharge your battery in a few hours. 4,5 or 6 hours max. Depending on what you're doing and other stuff like wifi and screen brightness.
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Gaming or watching movies will discharge your battery in a few hours. 4,5 or 6 hours max. Depending on what you're doing and other stuff like wifi and screen brightness.
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But i have galaxy s3 mini and its battery life is longer than s4. S3 mini's battery is 1500mAh, s4 is 2600mAh. S4's battery life is supposed to be longer than s3's
Battery life. Oh and i tried not to play games but tue battery life is still terrible. I hate it.
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But i have galaxy s3 mini and its battery life is longer than s4. S3 mini's battery is 1500mAh, s4 is 2600mAh. S4's battery life is supposed to be longer than s3's
Battery life. Oh and i tried not to play games but tue battery life is still terrible. I hate it.
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Was the battery life always terrible or is it just now?
I'm having a similar problem so I'll use this thread instead of creating a new one. I hope you don't mind.
My battery is draining at a rate of 15% per hour even If I leave it on standby, ocasionally turning on the screen to get a message on Whatsapp of checking the time. It was 100% this morning, 1 and a half hours later, 74%.
After reading on the forums that the cause of the battery drain could be that the phone was constantly trying to get network signal (in cases where the signal is poor, like where I live), I decided to switch on airplane mode. To my surprise, in 3 minutes after this the phone was in 75%. 10 minutes later and I got a 76%. As I write (on PC) it is on 80%.
That's right. The phone started "recharging" without a cable (I know this is impossible, just describing what the display shows me) after I turned on airplane mode.
Any ideas about what might be going on and how can I solve this?
Thanks in advance!
P.S.: It's not the battery itself, as I've bought a brand-new, samsung original battery and the draining was still the same
EDIT: the battery started behaving like this only a few weeks ago. So I'd assume that the signal problem could be helping, but would not be the main reason on why my battery goes down so quickly.
Venorian said:
I'm having a similar problem so I'll use this thread instead of creating a new one. I hope you don't mind.
My battery is draining at a rate of 15% per hour even If I leave it on standby, ocasionally turning on the screen to get a message on Whatsapp of checking the time. It was 100% this morning, 1 and a half hours later, 74%.
After reading on the forums that the cause of the battery drain could be that the phone was constantly trying to get network signal (in cases where the signal is poor, like where I live), I decided to switch on airplane mode. To my surprise, in 3 minutes after this the phone was in 75%. 10 minutes later and I got a 76%. As I write (on PC) it is on 80%.
That's right. The phone started "recharging" without a cable (I know this is impossible, just describing what the display shows me) after I turned on airplane mode.
Any ideas about what might be going on and how can I solve this?
Thanks in advance!
P.S.: It's not the battery itself, as I've bought a brand-new, samsung original battery and the draining was still the same
EDIT: the battery started behaving like this only a few weeks ago. So I'd assume that the signal problem could be helping, but would not be the main reason on why my battery goes down so quickly.
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I loose battery at the same speeed, but my signal is not so poor.
Not tried the airplane mode, but i'm sure that if i put to charge it charge quickly, too quickly.... like it was 80% 5 min after 90%
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Was the battery life always terrible or is it just now?
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It was terrible from the beginning. I cant replace the battery because my phone is rooted and my warranty is now void. And i won't buy a new battery because i believe the problem wiol not be solved.
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What if i flash the official firmware from samsung? Will it fix the battery issue?
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xxhunterxx11 said:
What if i flash the official firmware from samsung? Will it fix the battery issue?
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You could try that and see if it is a rom problem.
Otherwise try to borrow a battery from somewhere just to be sure it isn't the battery.

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