Does anyone know if this would work? Very curious since the optimus has lte
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bradm23 said:
Does anyone know if this would work? Very curious since the optimus has lte
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It's not just the radio that provides LTE. The N4 is actually missing LTE hardware.
abnormalreply said:
It's not just the radio that provides LTE. The N4 is actually missing LTE hardware.
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Please, not this again.
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abnormalreply said:
It's not just the radio that provides LTE. The N4 is actually missing LTE hardware.
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I think the hardware is there chief. :good:
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I think the hardware is there chief. :good:
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This horse has been beat to death. The hardware is only there for AWS band 4, which AT&T has in about 2 cities. TMo bought the remaining AWS spectrum from AT&T and is rolling out LTE on it in some markets.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6474/nexus-4-includes-support-for-lte-on-band-4-aws
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Hi, I hope you're well.
Please allow me to ask my stupid question of the day.
I am a T-Mobile post-paid customer on contract, and I am using a LG Nexus 4. T-Mobile will likely start having LTE soon, so I was wondering if that will affect the Nexus 4 in any way, positively or negatively (probably not negatively, but as I stated, this is a stupid question).
Thanks!
Vic
probably not. lte capabilities were disabled in the .48 baseband which came with the 4.2.2 update.
Hard to say, as the Nexus 4 does not "officially" have LTE. Google disabled the limited LTE connectivity in the 4.2.2 update as the N4 was not approved by the FCC for LTE.
Unless Google refiles, I wouldn't expect any official LTE updates.
But, that doesn't mean you can't try out the older radios (that still have LTE) as some people have had success using them (no sensor issues or voice/sound issues).
Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
Thanks!
Vic
VicVicVicx said:
Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
Thanks!
Vic
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yes..
My N4 is being returned, but I did get 16mbit down yesterday on HSPA+, which is amazing to me considering my home caps out at like 12 I think. Frankly, considering the marginal real-world gain you would see on LTE, I think the phone is probably better off not using that LTE antenna.
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yes..
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Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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XupModz said:
since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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Please please please stop saying that.
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chrisrozon said:
Please please please stop saying that.
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You can't handle the truth
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cesar521 said:
yes..
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Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Maybe they will introduce the nexus 4lte in the Google io.... Which is what all of us have now
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joshnichols189 said:
Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
RavenII said:
Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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You have to use the new apn, "Fast.T-Mobile.com" and change ipv4 to ipv4/ipv6. But the rest of the apn is the same as epc.tmobile.com.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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42 is the theoretical throughput, once you account for real world inefficiencies and data reserved for network services, 22 is a fantastic result.
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It really depends your area, on average lte will be faster especially upload. In most major cities LTE will probably smoke HSPA. The most I ever hit with HSPA was 18down 2up and lte was 56down 35 up in Toronto.
HSPA is no slouch though, just the upload is rough. If you upload a lot LTE is a must.
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XupModz said:
Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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LTE pings are usually low. so stuff pops up faster on the phone compared to hspa+. You would not see much difference when downloading something because the down speeds aren't too different. As far as picture uploads are concerned, they will happen much faster w/ LTE.
Last night i was at the movies with my girl that has a tmobile S4
And i always dont get signal with my nexus 4 at this theater but she had great signal and internet average was 5mbs
Is ther a way to flash that radio?
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No, different hardware.
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No, different hardware.
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So, i guess better hardware?
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Are you on T-Mobile also? My wife's HTC One X also does better signal wise than my N4 in certain areas. I assume it is because her phone is a LTE phone and mine is not. We are with AT&T, and being on the LTE network vs HSPA is like night and day.
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Are you on T-Mobile also? My wife's HTC One X also does better signal wise than my N4 in certain areas. I assume it is because her phone is a LTE phone and mine is not. We are with AT&T, and being on the LTE network vs HSPA is like night and day.
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Yea we both have tmobile phones.
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No you can't flash her s4 radio. They're two different phones.
What kind of question is that? That's like saying, oh my brothers computer is faster, can I flash the bios for his motherboard?
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Yea we both have tmobile phones.
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So, then what you need to do is get you a true LTE phone or borrow hers.
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So, then what you need to do is get you a true LTE phone or borrow hers.
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Theoretically speaking, the nexus 4 is a unofficial lte device and it does work on t mobile assuming that it's in the users area. He needs to check the lte thread for more information on how to use it on 4.2.2
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zephiK said:
Theoretically speaking, the nexus 4 is a unofficial lte device and it does work on t mobile assuming that it's in the users area. He needs to check the lte thread for more information on how to use it on 4.2.2
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No, you are wrong about official, which is why it is disabled by default. I know it will work in limited areas, but it doesn't have the FCC approval to be sold as an LTE phone. Officially it is not a LTE phone, even though it has some hidden limited capability.
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No, you are wrong about official, which is why it is disabled by default. I know it will work in limited areas, but it doesn't have the FCC approval to be sold as an LTE phone. Officially it is not a LTE phone, even though it has some hidden limited capability.
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No, you`re wrong! N4 fully supports LTE on band 4- T-mobile USA, Canadian carriers! There are people that have been using it for a while! It`s not FCC approved -YES, but it works as any other LTE phone!
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No, you are wrong about official, which is why it is disabled by default. I know it will work in limited areas, but it doesn't have the FCC approval to be sold as an LTE phone. Officially it is not a LTE phone, even though it has some hidden limited capability.
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His post says unofficial and he clearly hasn't edited it so you just misread the post, you're both saying the same thing essentially.
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His post says unofficial and he clearly hasn't edited it so you just misread the post, you're both saying the same thing essentially.
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Ahh yes, you are correct. Lol. Sorry zephiK. I did misread your post.
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No, you`re wrong! N4 fully supports LTE on band 4- T-mobile USA, Canadian carriers! There are people that have been using it for a while! It`s not FCC approved -YES, but it works as any other LTE phone!
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That's what I said.
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No, you`re wrong! N4 fully supports LTE on band 4- T-mobile USA, Canadian carriers!
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"Can be made to work with LTE" is a very very different thing from "fully supports LTE".
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Not to be redundant to other posts but in reality its not different. "fully supports" can be classified as working on networks that have lte which the nexus 4 does. Just because we have to change a few settings doesnt mean it doesnt fully support lte. I get full 4g everywhere i live. I consider that to be fully supportive.
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I guess that your definition of "fully supported" is very different to mine.
My definition wouldn't include the possibility of having to stick to old radios/ROMs to make a feature work, and it would include the possibility of ensuring Google help if there was a problem with that feature.
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Well I bought the s4, now I have signal there lol
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[Q] What's the difference in ROM and can we flash at ROM from those 2 ?
Thank you
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im confused about this too. I just got my phone from the play store and not sure what development section to use of both?
you can flash a rom from either. here is the difference between android and original development http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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[Q] What's the difference in ROM and can we flash at ROM from those 2
Thank you
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im confused about this too. I just got my phone from the play store and not sure what development section to use of both?
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Maybe this will help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982483
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Maybe this will help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982483
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That doesn't help but I'm just going to guess I can use both development sections and see what happens
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you can flash a rom from either. here is the difference between android and original development http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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Thank you .... I come from xperia and gs3 and I must say in speed and graphic this phone kicks ass in a big way Lol.... But never had to deal with 2 different development thread for the same phone ..... Thank you for clarifying this
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I'm with Koodo and I have lte and 4g in my area so I guess I can use baseband .33 and get lte also then right ?
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Bionik_kaos said:
I'm with Koodo and I have lte and 4g in my area so I guess I can use baseband .33 and get lte also then right ?
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.33 yes, or .27 too, but only if they support band 4 lte. most dont support band 4, its new. tmobile supports it, a few canadian companies support it, and att in very very limitted lications support it. i have a feeling that koodo doesnt support it.
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.33 yes, or .27 too, but only if they support band 4 lte. most dont support band 4, its new. tmobile supports it, a few canadian companies support it, and att in very very limitted lications support it. i have a feeling that koodo doesnt support it.
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I had htc8x before and data was lte and was lte but data and vo-lte might be different ?
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Bionik_kaos said:
I had htc8x before and data was lte and was lte but data and vo-lte might be different ?
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just like any other radio, there exists many different frequencies. your htc could have been made to support your lte frequency, band 4 isnt very common. call and ask your provider if they support band 4. if they say they dont know what that is, then they dont support it.
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you can flash a rom from either. here is the difference between android and original development http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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Thanks man. That's exactly what I was looking for
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just like any other radio, there exists many different frequencies. your htc could have been made to support your lte frequency, band 4 isnt very common. call and ask your provider if they support band 4. if they say they dont know what that is, then they dont support it.
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OK Lol band 4 lte ..... Its band that is rare Lol OK got it thank you very much
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OK Lol band 4 lte ..... Its band that is rare Lol OK got it thank you very much
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telus supports it i think
Hey we just got LTE support in our country and I was wondering what Bands of LTE does the Nexus 4 support?
The nexus 4 only unofficially supports band 4 lte
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ZaViX said:
Hey we just got LTE support in our country and I was wondering what Bands of LTE does the Nexus 4 support?
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It does, you will just have to be rooted and flash either an older radio or a hybrid radio to use LTE
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Band 4 1700mhz only.
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Band 4 1700mhz only.
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Were getting something called LTE Advanced? What band is that? Thanks.
ZaViX said:
Were getting something called LTE Advanced? What band is that? Thanks.
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Oh you lucky devil. LTE Advanced is the next step beyond LTE. It's called True 4G because LTE technically isn't 4G. There are very few places and carriers that use LTE Advanced today because it's so new. Anyway, the Nexus 4 won't be able to use LTE Advanced because it doesn't have the proper hardware. In fact, I've only heard of one major phone that has the hardware, a special GS4 that Samsung released in markets that could use it. I'm sure there are others, but that's all I've heard.
If I may ask, where do you live? I'm just curious as to where they're rolling out LTE Advanced.
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Oh you lucky devil. LTE Advanced is the next step beyond LTE. It's called True 4G because LTE technically isn't 4G. There are very few places and carriers that use LTE Advanced today because it's so new. Anyway, the Nexus 4 won't be able to use LTE Advanced because it doesn't have the proper hardware. In fact, I've only heard of one major phone that has the hardware, a special GS4 that Samsung released in markets that could use it. I'm sure there are others, but that's all I've heard.
If I may ask, where do you live? I'm just curious as to where they're rolling out LTE Advanced.
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I come from the tiny little island called "Malta" in the heart of the med. I suppose for the first time in history were actually technologically advanced. Vodafone just announced it this morning and I got in-contact with someone who works there. Shame nobody will be able to benefit from it immediately
Sorry I don't think Vodafone use Band 4. You might want to wait for the announcement of the Nexus 5. There is some rumor it will support all the LTE bands, though its unconfirmed.
You can see the list of LTE bands here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Alex240188 said:
The nexus 4 only unofficially supports band 4 lte
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Can't we use band 3, 5 or 40 anyhow??
What's a good radio/modem to use in PI that has LTE support?? Thanks in advance. I'm on TMo with international data
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What's a good radio/modem to use in PI that has LTE support?? Thanks in advance. I'm on TMo with international data
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Assuming you have a Nexus 4, as far as I know, there's no LTE service, band 4 if my memory serves me correctly.
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What's a good radio/modem to use in PI that has LTE support?? Thanks in advance. I'm on TMo with international data
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Just one thread will be sufficient to ask your question in future, thanks.