Hey all,
Just wanted to get a quick opinion from everyone here about the Sony Xperia Z screen.
There has obviously been a large discussion on the internet about the different quality Xperia screens and today I managed to identify first hand what an arguably good Z screen locks like in comparison to a bad one ,at least for my tastes. One device has a horrid reflection effect in a dark environment which left me wanting while another unit has better contrast all round with higher saturation.
What is everyone's experience and likes dislikes with the Xperia Z screen? I remember the apple screens when you use to go to the apple store and notice your screen has a yellowish tint in comparison to the same model on display which ticked me right of.
I want to close this display discussion once and for all so we know what the deal is. Are there really bad screens and good screens and what are the differences? I think there are and I stated my opinion above.
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I don't know if it's just me, or the phone isn't set up properly but the screen is perfect - however when I am watching videos on youtube or anything, the colours seem so dark? It's not the viewing angle, it's just the colours seem so deep & black. Anyone experience this too?
SalamiQueen said:
I don't know if it's just me, or the phone isn't set up properly but the screen is perfect - however when I am watching videos on youtube or anything, the colours seem so dark? It's not the viewing angle, it's just the colours seem so deep & black. Anyone experience this too?
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Maybe bravia engine is switched on
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Maybe bravia engine is switched on
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Oh wow, you're right! Thanks for that! Can't believe something that is meant to improve quality made things worse lol
Hi there.
I think I know what you mean I noticed this as well. Check this video on YouTube with and without bravura engine and take auto brightness of and put it to 50%.
youtube.com/watch?v=KsYTJDM6ups&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Dots it still seem dark?
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Hi there.
I think I know what you mean I noticed this as well. Check this video on YouTube with and without bravura engine and take auto brightness of and put it to 50%.
youtube.com/watch?v=KsYTJDM6ups&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Dots it still seem dark?
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Thanks for this.
stiffler191 said:
Hi there.
I think I know what you mean I noticed this as well. Check this video on YouTube with and without bravura engine and take auto brightness of and put it to 50%.
youtube.com/watch?v=KsYTJDM6ups&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Dots it still seem dark?
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Thank you for the tip. So is it best to set the display to 50% with the auto brightness & the bravia engine turned OFF? It does seem better with the engine turned off overall it seems
Some says the Japanese version is JDi
Screen and it better than ours
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SalamiQueen said:
Thank you for the tip. So is it best to set the display to 50% with the auto brightness & the bravia engine turned OFF? It does seem better with the engine turned off overall it seems
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I just mentioned that you should switch brightness to 50% so you can level the comparison field without your phone actually changing the brightness and changing results. Bravia engine should probably stay off if you don't like it, personal preference really. as for the auto brightness I recommend keeping it on, it is the first ever device that I have left this feature on since it does such a good job with it! will probably save some battery as well most times.
So does this mean the video looked alright?
sadlove said:
Some says the Japanese version is JDi
Screen and it better than ours
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So is this phone (with better screen) only sold in Japan? That would be quite shocking.
And who are you refering to when you say that some say? link Maybe...
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I just mentioned that you should switch brightness to 50% so you can level the comparison field without your phone actually changing the brightness and changing results. Bravia engine should probably stay off if you don't like it, personal preference really. as for the auto brightness I recommend keeping it on, it is the first ever device that I have left this feature on since it does such a good job with it! will probably save some battery as well most times.
So does this mean the video looked alright?
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Well I do like the auto feature too so left that on with 50% brightness
The bravia engine, tbh I can't see any difference with photos, only with videos things seem so dark that you can't watch anything properly. So I guess I'll only turn it off when I am watching videos. They should have an option to let you have it on for photos & off for videos
But yes switching bravia off worked the videos perfectly thank you
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So is this phone (with better screen) only sold in Japan? That would be quite shocking.
And who are you refering to when you say that some say? link Maybe...
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There are some people that willing fail to understand that the Japanese version has a different skin since it's customized by do como. It uses black menus and black buttons. So based on that they say that the Japanese model has a better screen because it displays black
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There are some people that willing fail to understand that the Japanese version has a different skin since it's customized by do como. It uses black menus and black buttons. So based on that they say that the Japanese model has a better screen because it displays black
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I actually wish they would have made the menu black it would have looked much sleeker.
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There are some people that willing fail to understand that the Japanese version has a different skin since it's customized by do como. It uses black menus and black buttons. So based on that they say that the Japanese model has a better screen because it displays black
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Check below video from 1:15 where it sets same wall paper on both hand set.
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There are some people that willing fail to understand that the Japanese version has a different skin since it's customized by do como. It uses black menus and black buttons. So based on that they say that the Japanese model has a better screen because it displays black
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And better viewing angles because of docomo skin? :laugh:
can the display be fixed with a software update?
jigarpatel22 said:
Check below video from 1:15 where it sets same wall paper on both hand set.
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Later in this video... How can docomo version has better viewing angles...
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Later in this video... How can docomo version has better viewing angles...
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It doesn't
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It doesn't
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Let me hear your explanation. Anti-shatter shield makes it worse or what?
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Let me hear your explanation. Anti-shatter shield makes it worse or what?
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It's because of the viewing angles, if you look at the beginning the European version actually looks more vibrant. The thing is that a slight tilt already makes a small difference the phones are recorded from different angles relative to the camera. Since you don't see any difference when viewing the screen head on and the difference in view angles are really minor I think it is just the positioning of the phones relative to the camera. Also because in the first part the European looks slightly better. If you look at the screen bottom up it tens to be slightly more blue with gives it slightly more vibrancy if you look top down it gives a bit more yellow causing white to be slightly yellow and thus has a tiny effect on contrast
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Hello
I have a Samsung I9000 Galaxy S which is way too bright even at the lowest setting.
Anyways so I got an idea of an app but I dont know whether its technically possible or not!
So is it possible to create an App that works just like a transparent dark glass which covers your screen and you see through it and can perform all functions normally but due to the app the screen becomes dark so that it doesn't strain the eyes?
Also current "minimum" brightness on the Galaxy S is "10" even with 3rd party apps. Is it a limitation of Android or Samsung firmware? Also is it technically possible to go into - values such as "-30" ?
Ah, great topic. I have the same problem on my HTC Desire. Interesting to hear what the experts have to say.
Yeah these amoled screens are uber bright!
Download AdjBrightness from the market, it rules.
Grus said:
Download AdjBrightness from the market, it rules.
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I have read on the net that it doesnt work for Galaxy S.
The app is called screen filter. Don't really know too much about it other than it works fantastically well and its free. Reduces brightness to almost nothing if you want, and the app functions as a widget for toggling as well.
I've been going around posting this in as many places as i can because this freaking app really helped me out, I could hardly look at the screen in the dark at all but now its good to go. Hopefully help some new galaxy purchasers out.
You can't go into minus values but you can set it to 0, which is 1 above the screen actually being off.
You need to be rooted, then you can just adjust the value with adb.
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The app is called screen filter. Don't really know too much about it other than it works fantastically well and its free. Reduces brightness to almost nothing if you want, and the app functions as a widget for toggling as well.
I've been going around posting this in as many places as i can because this freaking app really helped me out, I could hardly look at the screen in the dark at all but now its good to go. Hopefully help some new galaxy purchasers out.
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Screen filter works amazing! This is exactly what I was looking for, Thanks.
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Isn't anyone else worried about how blue ICS is and about AMOLED burn in?
Meh, that's what themes are for. Plus as big a video guy as I am, (I'm a video engineer), the "lowered output over time" that many incorrectly call burn in, isn't enough to bother me.yes I can see it looking for it but again, amoled is just too friggen awesome to care. My epic still looked very good after a year of heavy, high brightness use. Also lowering brightness will slow this down but I say (w an extra battery) crank it and enjoy the expensive device you paid for!
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What should we worry about more exactly?
TheSaw said:
What should we worry about more exactly?
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ICS will have a blue status bar. The blue leds loose their brightness quicker than the red and green thus the bar being blue you get burn in effect although its not burnin but inproper degradation of the leds.
I'll probably have an S3 by then!
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I'll probably have an S3 by then!
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+1 Or even an S4 by the time it starts looking bad enough to even care.
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I certainly wouldn't say i'm 'worried' by it ...
I'm worried if it it won't have a good battery life not about a blue bar or other things. I'm sure everything else will work fine.
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...crank it and enjoy the expensive device you paid for!
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My thoughts exactly. I bought this phone for the processing power and the awesome screen. Turning the screen down because of something that might happen over time would be a shame.
seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads
I didn't get it, What is the problem of using blue bar? it looks awesome.
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I didn't get it, What is the problem of using blue bar? it looks awesome.
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Read again
Matriak31 said:
seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads
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No, you are not the only one, but be careful how you speak as many are very sensitive
achillies400 said:
No, you are not the only one, but be careful how you speak as many are very sensitive
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Yeah you are right..Forgot how sensitive some people on here are...Next time i will sugar coat them..
AFAIK Amoled degradation is non linear (like plasma) the first hunders hours it will degrade fast and then it will stabilize and even the blue leds (which has the shortest lifespan) will outlast the usefull life of your mobile easily (at least 4 years with 6 hours screen time a day)
IF color balance gets skewed by wearing out blue more than the other colors you can always readjust the balance, for example with chainFire's app
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Matriak31 said:
seriously am i the only one who thinks that the forum is getting filled with pointless threads
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This isn't a pointless thread. It's actually useful. People do worry about the screen burns
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Actually I hate the black status, menus, etc. Why don't they use light colors?, I don't know. I much prefer the old android status bar color. At least the degradation was not that visible when using fullscreen apps. (I do browse a lot, and a large procent of pages have white background. Also most apps have white background).
I really do not understand Google why it doesn't give to the user a build-in simple color scheme editor, so you can easily change the system colors (such as statusbar, menu). Like it was on WM. You could change the status bar color via registry, no mess with pack/unpack/resign of framework blablabla. Oh my..
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This isn't a pointless thread. It's actually useful. People do worry about the screen burns
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and i do worry about mine as well but i am sure if the lovely chap who opened this thread actually took the time to search and try and find answers to his questions we would not be having this conversation now..even if he could not find anything on xda(which highly doubtful) then google is his saviour...
But anyway hope he finds his answers now and he stops worrying. after all we are a community to help each other...
Wow
Yeah, so, if your screen-on time can burn out the screen, before ambient humidity burns out the mainboard... you need to put your phone down before you get cancer LOL
Seriously, the half life of the pixels in AMOLED is a mean average 14,000 hours...
One year, seven months... that would be at FULL brightness, with the screen ON for the entire duration to hit the half life...
And you're WORRIED?! LMMFAO
Use your phone, love it, and stop worrying, you'll have a new phone before you notice pixel death.
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AFAIK Amoled degradation is non linear (like plasma) the first hunders hours it will degrade fast and then it will stabilize and even the blue leds (which has the shortest lifespan) will outlast the usefull life of your mobile easily (at least 4 years with 6 hours screen time a day)
IF color balance gets skewed by wearing out blue more than the other colors you can always readjust the balance, for example with chainFire's app
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Could some body send me a link to chainFire's app
We all know that some of the color looks washed when we watch in a diff angle , also the head on looks sometimes may not look great since BE2 is not applied all time .
not sure if this works as I dont have a rooted phone ( dont plan to root till 4.2 ) can anyone test this on their rooted phone and post results and reviews please?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol&feature=search_result
this appears to work very well with the Nexus4 hope should work on the XZ too
awaiting positive results
does this work?? any conformation..
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does this work?? any conformation..
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That is what I want someone to try as my XZ is not rooted and this app requires root..
anirudhks said:
That is what I want someone to try as my XZ is not rooted and this app requires root..
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I can't even download it... My device is not compatible..
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This app is incompatible with your SingTel Sony C6603. Sadly.
anirudhks said:
We all know that some of the color looks washed when we watch in a diff angle , also the head on looks sometimes may not look great since BE2 is not applied all time .
not sure if this works as I dont have a rooted phone ( dont plan to root till 4.2 ) can anyone test this on their rooted phone and post results and reviews please?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol&feature=search_result
this appears to work very well with the Nexus4 hope should work on the XZ too
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Try screen adjuster. Does not require root.
Tried it. It doesn't work. Gives an error everyone you try run it
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It won't work more than likely because it is based on the Nexus 4 hardware.
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Tried it. It doesn't work. Gives an error everyone you try run it
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No error on mine(stock rom). However not really good at adjusting the screen color.
Adjusted as per image. Picture shown the with and without.
argh2000 said:
No error on mine(stock rom). However not really good at adjusting the screen color.
Adjusted as per image. Picture shown the with and without.
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If you just want to deal with the view angle problem, set the system brightness higher (80% or higher), and set the brightness of the screen adjuster to 50%~70%, nothing else. Then the view angle will be amazing, but you will also find very little blue tint when displaying white color
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If you just want to deal with the view angle problem, set the system brightness higher (80% or higher), and set the brightness of the screen adjuster to 50%~70%, nothing else. Then the view angle will be amazing, but you will also find very little blue tint when displaying white color
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done, thank you. The angle view does seems to be better.
sillypilot said:
If you just want to deal with the view angle problem, set the system brightness higher (80% or higher), and set the brightness of the screen adjuster to 50%~70%, nothing else. Then the view angle will be amazing, but you will also find very little blue tint when displaying white color
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Wow, call it placebo or whatnot, but it seems as though it helps to some extent! (maybe it's just me) O_O!
sillypilot said:
If you just want to deal with the view angle problem, set the system brightness higher (80% or higher), and set the brightness of the screen adjuster to 50%~70%, nothing else. Then the view angle will be amazing, but you will also find very little blue tint when displaying white color
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yep that helps to a certain extent thanks for finding,,
Hello,
I picked up my GS4 about a week ago but haven't really used it in direct sunlight until today. I was outside, and the sun was shining brightly on the screen. Home screen was fine, and darker images were ok, but if I were to go to an app with a primarily white background, or open up something which used the keyboard (texting) the screen would flicker pretty noticeably. Brightness is all the way up, and auto tone was off.
Has anyone else seen this?
yup this is normal esp when using the keyboard.
Im not sure if it will be fixed.
orlandoxpolice said:
Hello,
I picked up my GS4 about a week ago but haven't really used it in direct sunlight until today. I was outside, and the sun was shining brightly on the screen. Home screen was fine, and darker images were ok, but if I were to go to an app with a primarily white background, or open up something which used the keyboard (texting) the screen would flicker pretty noticeably. Brightness is all the way up, and auto tone was off.
Has anyone else seen this?
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richard371 said:
Im not sure if it will be fixed.
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I guess my question is, is this a hardware issue with many GS4's or a minority. I came across a thread on the Tmobile GS4 forum where people were experiencing it, but it seems not everyone is.
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I guess my question is, is this a hardware issue with many GS4's or a minority. I came across a thread on the Tmobile GS4 forum where people were experiencing it, but it seems not everyone is.
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I actually noticed for the first time today too..
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Its a hardware thing, but also its only in touchwiz so a developer might be able to turn it off so to speak.
It adjusts the color and tone no matter what to save the display from overheating and or burning in...
Does it a lot and I notice it cause im weird about those kinds of things.
If you use CM 10.1 or AOKP its gone.
ive made some progress with the RGB light meter on this; hoping a friend can write up some code so we can test out a 'smoothed out' transition and sampling rate and one that is sped up, averaged faster, but will take up more CPU and RAM and battery but more accurate.
here is another thread regarding it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280715
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284726
Maybe if someone who is using CM10 or AOKP could test it to see if it is a software issues and not a hardware issue?
edit: slade and jet replied while I was writing this...thanks for the info. looks like it is touchwiz related.
edit2: just went out in the sun again to test a lot of different options in the display settings (which none worked) but is seems it is only happening when the keyboard is enabled. I am using swiftkey.
yeah TW and that sensor communicate; i believe the sensor itself probably works better ALONE, but TW changes it and throttles it for either battery or screen safety.
It is always dependent on what is being pulled up on the screen, though it can be mitigated quite a bit if you disable all power saving and screen auto features, and leave brightness under 80% or so.
yea anything under 80% in direct sun is basically black. all power saving and screen auto modes were disabled. i covered up all of the sensors too and it still flickered....
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yea anything under 80% in direct sun is basically black. all power saving and screen auto modes were disabled. i covered up all of the sensors too and it still flickered....
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Not just a sensor thing per-say.
It's hard to explain, they most likely did it because they didn't want the amoled to burn in.
Its the same reason why the brightness goes up another 34% or so on auto above the max brightness. Only uses it when needed to save the screen and battery.
Does it on youtube too btw, bring up a video on wide screen then tap it and you'll see the drastic color shift
I noticed this thing when I got my phone also. I thought I was just imagining it but I guess it's an actual problem
geoldr said:
I noticed this thing when I got my phone also. I thought I was just imagining it but I guess it's an actual problem
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'its not a problem, its a feature'
-Steve Jobs
Seriously its about power handling/battery saving and white balance, but its noticeable, and annoying.
Slade8525 said:
'its not a problem, its a feature'
-Steve Jobs
Seriously its about power handling/battery saving and white balance, but its noticeable, and annoying.
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Yep, looking into a whole bunch of stuff, just installed ubuntu so maybe I can compile something; gonna look deep into the framework.
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Yep, looking into a whole bunch of stuff, just installed ubuntu so maybe I can compile something; gonna look deep into the framework.
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Thanks, let me know if you figure anything out.
Open camera in direct sun and it flickers too..
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This is so annoying. Does anyone on touch wiz not experience this?
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This is so annoying. Does anyone on touch wiz not experience this?
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No that's not possible, its hard coded into touchwiz, this isn't a bug or anything...
If people say they don't have it; they're not noticing it.
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No that's not possible, its hard coded into touchwiz, this isn't a bug or anything...
If people say they don't have it; they're not noticing it.
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Gotcha
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Thought my eyes were going crazy. Mine does this too. It even did it once under some fluorescent lights. It's not annoying enough to matter but it would be cool if it gets fixed.
Is it me, or did the display improve? I can see some difference, better coloring and saturation.. Anyone else..
(After April update)
Amjad.AbdulGhani said:
Is it me, or did the display improve? I can see some difference, better coloring and saturation.. Anyone else..
(After April update)
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It's possible but I didn't see anything about the display on the bulletin
Reuben_skelz92 said:
It's possible but I didn't see anything about the display on the bulletin
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Me neither, but i thought i would share what i felt changed according to my eyes :laugh:
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Me neither, but i thought i would share what i felt changed according to my eyes :laugh:
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Lol be interesting to see when I update. It is possible they could have tweaked it a little though
Hmm, looks exactly the same to me.
On what color profile are you on?
I think my colors are a bit more punchy and saturated now as well, just done update.
Will check if my GF will see any difference as hers phone is updating now...
When I powered up my brain said, display seems different, but after usage I can't tell anymore.
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I think my colours are a bit more punchy and saturated now as well. Just done the update.
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I think you are right. I've just checked the Electric Sheep wallpaper - it stopped looking like old, worn out, colourless rug.
Colours are the same, no mention of any colour improvements in the changelog anyways.
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Is it me, or did the display improve? I can see some difference, better coloring and saturation.. Anyone else..
(After April update)
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That's possible, there were about 59 bug fixes from what I read.....One thing for sure that was fixed is the FPS....much better :good:
I can guarantee i can see no improvement whatsoever i am using saturated mode from day 1
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I notice zero difference in my case.
Nope screen is still mediocre
I noticed that black crush was slightly better after the March update. Watching the HDR sheep video the dark parts weren't completely black. Also, that black box test I compared what boxes I was able to see compared to others and I was able to see the darker boxes
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I noticed that black crush was slightly better after the March update. Watching the HDR sheep video the dark parts weren't completely black. Also, that black box test I compared what boxes I was able to see compared to others and I was able to see the darker boxes
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Maybe they tweaked the gamma . We all know that's the problem
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That's possible, there were about 59 bug fixes from what I read.....One thing for sure that was fixed is the FPS....much better :good:
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how can you say that the fps was improved??
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how can you say that the fps was improved??
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Because before the update the FPS was super laggy, after the update it seems much improved and responsive
I'm on natural color scheme and what I noticed was the black background I use for wallpaper seems, well, blacker. It might not be a color improvement but rather a contrast one...
I agree. I noticed sharper images too
I feel like things look better too.. unfortunately my battery life is awful
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