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According to Xperia Blog Sony C650X ‘Odin’ model number uncovered [2013 flagship] and C660X YUGA are appearing in benchmarks
Sony Mobile is revamping its model numbers from 2013 onwards. Gone is the ST/MT/LT code structure to denote small, medium and large touchscreen handsets. Instead what we now have is a new five character model number that will be the new standard going forward.
The User-Agent Profile (UAProf) for Sony Mobile’s 2013 flagship, codenamed ‘Odin’, has been discovered (see an extract below). From the brief information, we can tell that there are three new Sony Mobile model numbers: C6502, C6503 and C6506. We understand that these are all one handset – the different last character in each model number denotes the region/carrier to be released. The UAProf shows that this 2013 flagship is running Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean with 10.1.A.0.XXX firmware. Excited? Let the 2013 Xperia rumours begin.
UAProf for Sony C650X ‘Odin’
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.1.1; en-us; C6502 Build/10.1.A.0.211) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/534.30
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.1.1; ja-jp; C6503 Build/10.1.A.0.168) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/534.30
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.1.1; sv-se; C6506 Build/10.1.A.0.201) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/534.30
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Sony C650X Odin Phone Pictured – Concept or Leak?
EDIT 27-10-2012
Purported teaser images of Sony Yuga leak
EDIT 7-11-2012
Sony C6603 ‘Yuga’ pictures leak
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New Sony C670X details leak: 4.8-inch FHD display, 1.8GHz Snapdragon 600 [Update]
We have received word of a new Sony Xperia C670X handset that is due to launch this summer. The information comes from a tipster who recently provided us with the Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean screenshot for the Xperia Z. Obviously, as with any rumour, treat all of the following with a pinch of salt.
In terms of specifications, the Sony C670X is expected to come with a slightly smaller display than the Xperia Z (C660X) at 4.8-inches but will still have a full HD resolution of 1080 x 1920. The C670X will be powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064T) chipset with 1.8GHz quad-core processor and Adreno 320 graphics. Other features include 2GB RAM, 32GB internal storage and a 13MP Exmor RS camera. We are told the phone is due to launch in the middle of 2013 with Android 4.2.
Along with all of this spec information, we were sent a render of the Sony C670X. We cannot tell from the picture if the C670X has a heavy glass influence like the Xperia Z or uses aluminium. Judging from the render, the ear speaker is similar in style to the Z/ZL. It looks like the top of the phone includes a front-facing camera , notification light, light sensor and proximity sensor.
Given that the expected release is still a number of months away, the design may end up changing prior to launch. This is perhaps why there are no app icons in the display area, the render only shows the latest Xperia wallpaper. Anyway, that’s all we have for now. As mentioned before, treat all of this firmly as a rumour.
Update: The image sent over is the same as used in the set up guide for the Xperia Z, despite it clearly not being a picture of the Xperia Z. So either this Sony render is a generic placeholder image used when setting up a new 2013 Sony Xperia handset or it is indeed an image of an upcoming handset that Sony has inadvertently used in the Xperia Z. [Thanks Kihoon!]
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* 4.6"-5'0" SUPER LCD 2 display with bravia engine
* 1.5 ghz A15 QUAD CORE or S4 PRO with 2GB RAM
* MORE ADVANCED TIMESCAPE with apps like WALKMAN , ALBUM , MOVIES they can add CYBERSHOT , PLAYSTATION APPS
* 2500 MAH BATERY
* SLEEK ALUMINIUM UNIBODY DESIGN with 7-8mm thickness
* WATERPROOF / NON WATERPROOF !
* CLEAR & UNIQUE DESIGN
YES AND I COPIED FROM XPERIABLOG
AND No OLED Screen PLZ! Theyre horrible
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lokenok said:
* 4.6"-5'0" SUPER LCD 2 display with bravia engine
* 1.5 ghz A15 QUAD CORE or S4 PRO with 2GB RAM
* MORE ADVANCED TIMESCAPE with apps like WALKMAN , ALBUM , MOVIES they can add CYBERSHOT , PLAYSTATION APPS
* 2500 MAH BATERY
* SLEEK ALUMINIUM UNIBODY DESIGN with 7-8mm thickness
* WATERPROOF / NON WATERPROOF !
* CLEAR & UNIQUE DESIGN
YES AND I COPIED FROM XPERIABLOG
AND No OLED Screen PLZ! Theyre horrible
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What's the fuss about 4.2 it hasn't gone official yet and people are demanding for it, 5in? too much for a smartphone.. OLED display? too much saturated plus BE2 very saturated. I think the more plausible approach is the new Exmor RS sensor and remove the overcompression issue, "C" reminds me of the cybershot and Sony please make it good this time, make it reach the market also ASAP, latest 2012 line have been announced but very few customers are getting it and losing interest.
I think this phone should have a slim design,
good GPU Adreno 320/latest POWERVR
at least 2100 mah
opticontrast display on V or even X-reality engine on their TV's (rather impossible but maybe..)
Camera that's on par or even better than what's on iphone 5 (Not an apple fanboy but we cannot deny how Apple uses Sony's image sensors to the fullest)
Latest OS out of the box that is optimized for the hardware and wont get crappy when updated to another version (2010,2011 and 2012 lines when updated to latest OS Versions sucked big time; JB out of the box more realistic since very few devices are running JB, wont get crappy if updated to rumored Key Lime Pie)
The Sony C660X "Yuga" has just appeared in benchmarks.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/10/12/sony-c660x-yuga-unveiled-in-benchmark/
Awesome, seems to have a quad-core S4
im going to buy the v when it comes , no more waiting , they release devices so late that their new device sounds better then the one released... im going to be stuck with my ray forever!!
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Benchmark confirms 1080p display for Sony C660X ‘Yuga’
We are slowly piecing together a jigsaw of some awesome hardware for Sony Mobile’s 2013 flagship device(s). What we know so far is that there will be two sibling flagships – the Sony C650X ‘Odin’ (C6502, C6503, C6506) and Sony C660X ‘Yuga’ (C6603). They will be armed with a 1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 chipset (APQ8064 & Adreno 320 graphics) and MDM9615 baseband chip with LTE support. These phones are currently being tested with Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean and 10.1.A.0.XXX firmware.
Now we can confirm that the Sony C660X ‘Yuga’ will have a 1080p (1920 x 1080) display following an appearance in the NenaMark2 benchmark. The benchmark actually points to a resolution of 1794 x 1080, but 126 pixels are likely being used for the on-screen buttons introduced in Android Ice Cream Sandwich. The entry has already been removed from the NenaMark website, but still appears in Google Cache results.
Screen size still remains a mystery for now, but we can make some educated guesses. It is very unlikely to be sub 5-inches given the 1080p display resolution. We know that LG and Sharp have announced their own 5-inch 1080p displays. However, the biggest hint comes from a recent announcement from Japan Display Inc (JDI). For those that don’t know, JDI is a new company for small and medium-sized displays formed in April 2012 through the integration of Sony Mobile Display, Toshiba Mobile Display and Hitachi Displays. It recently announced that it has started to mass produce a 5.0-inch TFT-LCD IPS display module with 1080 x 1920 pixel resolution and 443 PPI.
We do wonder if a smartphone display with pixel density over 400 PPI is a bit overkill though and whether we’d even be able to tell the difference from a 300 PPI device. We’re also not sure what kind of demands this would have on battery life, but it sounds superb nonetheless and all evidence suggests it will come to the next Sony Xperia flagship.
Via Rbmen.
Thanks @musumappa!
I love this performance!
According to Xperia Blog: First Sony C6603 ‘Yuga’ sample picture appears
The first sample picture from the Sony C6603, codenamed Yuga, has appeared on Picasa. The picture itself isn’t revealing as it appears to be of a Chinese poster. The EXIF information doesn’t reveal anything we don’t know either – the compressed image hides what sensor this phone will have. However, we understand it will be running a 13MP Exmor RS CMOS sensor. This particular model is running 10.1.A.0.270 firmware (Android 4.1.1). Both Yuga (C660X) and Odin (C650X) are expected to be the Sony Mobile 2013 flagship models. We’ll bring you more information as we have it.*
Sony C650X Odin Phone Pictured – Concept or Leak?
batman_112 said:
Sony C650X Odin Phone Pictured – Concept or Leak?
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A really nice concept.
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Purported teaser images of Sony Yuga leak
cool thx
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Purported teaser images of Sony Yuga leak
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I personally dont buy it. But it's so little that it's hard to judge.
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DdcCabuslay said:
I personally dont buy it. But it's so little that it's hard to judge.
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You never know. These leaks are not uncommon. The hardware may change from here till launch. So who knows...
MUST... SELL... XPERIA T...
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Pictures of Yuga have just leaked
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/11/07/sony-c6603-yuga-pictures-leak/
What do you think guys?
@OP put the pictures on the first post
EDIT: JB is confirmed on this device 4.1.1
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Who knows if that's the final design. If it is I my opinion it doesn't look that great compared to the nxt series and the arc. Flat back is nice but the sides doesn't look that great especially with the silver power button. Looks weird doesn't blend in like the tx.
I guess I'll be waiting for the Xperia x, q4 of 2013~
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Who knows if that's the final design. If it is I my opinion it doesn't look that great compared to the nxt series and the arc. Flat back is nice but the sides doesn't look that great especially with the silver power button. Looks weird doesn't blend in like the tx.
I guess I'll be waiting for the Xperia x, q4 of 2013~
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There's also Odin which hasn't been leaked yet but it might look similar.
Personally I agree that it looks not as good as the arcs or NXT phones but it still looks good. But a glass back concerns me. I'm fairly careful with my phone but one drop with Yuga and its game over.
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And plus its 5 inch. I can't handle it with a single hand.
and also since it's a glass back I doubt this phone would have a removable battery. ><
The Xperia Z ultra has just been released...
Worlds Largest slimmest full HD smartphone specs coming up shortly
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6.4” Full HD display
Trilunimous tech
ground-breaking display also includes X-Reality for mobile
IP58 certified
Available in three colours; black, white and purple
212 grams
6.5mm uniform thickness
8-megapixel Exmor RS
4.2 (Jelly Bean)
It will launch globally from Q3 2013
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I know it's a little early but there's already info leaked on the upcoming Xperia Z4, which will most likely make it's debut in 2 months during CES in January.
So far we know the following:
New rumors:
Perhaps you've already consumed breakfast, and it is too early for lunch. Still, it is time for you to head toward the spice rack and pull out the salt, because we suggest that you take this story with a least a grain of the stuff. A report published on Saturday lists the rumored specs for both the Sony Xperia Z4 Compact and the Sony Xperia Z4 Ultra. You could say that when it comes to Sony's first half smartphone releases for 2015, this will be the long and short of it.
The Sony Xperia Z4 Compact is expected to maintain the tradition of previous Xperia Compact models by offering flagship type specs in a, well, compact package. For the Xperia Z4 Compact, that means a 4.7-inch screen with a 1080 x 1920 resolution. That combination should provide a high pixel density. Under the hood will be the Snapdragon 810 CPU and there will be 3GB of RAM on board. The device will feature 32GB of native storage and will be equipped with stereo speakers. Back and front-facing cameras will weigh in at 20.7MP and 5MP, respectively. The Xperia Z4 Compact will have IP68 certification and come with LTE Cat.9, Bluetooth 4.1 and NFC connectivity. While a precise battery capacity wasn't leaked, the phone should offer wireless charging.
The Sony Xperia Z4 Ultra will be equipped with a 6.44-inch screen, with a resolution of 1440 x 2560. It also will employ the Snapdragon 810 CPU and have 3GB of RAM inside. A 16MP camera adorns the back of the unit, and the phablet is said to resemble an overgrown Sony Xperia Z3. While the Sony Xperia Z Ultra supported the use of a pencil as an input tool, the Xperia Z4 Ultra will come with its own stylus. The battery capacity for the handset needs to be large to support the huge screen, and the talk is that the cell will weigh in between 3500 and 4000mAh. This is quite a bit different than previous rumors of a Xperia Z4 Ultra with a 5.9-inch glass, powered by a Snapdragon 805 chipset.
Due to the shortages of the Snapdragon 810 chipset, both of these models are now expected to be delayed with a possible launch during the second quarter of the year. On the other hand, the Sony Xperia Z4 and Sony Xperia Z4 Tablet are both expected to be introduced on January 5th, just before the start of the 2014 CES show.
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Old rumors
Same sensor as current Z Line but with new image processing handled by Sonys Imaging Divison (I hope the current Z Line recieves this new image processing with Lollipop)
MWC Anouncement., late March release
Will 810 not 805 like PhoneArena reported
S-Master HX digital amplifier that is seen on Sony’s Walkman audio players. This would be the first time that Sony would use a high-end dedicated audio chip on its Xperia smartphone range
Old rumors
- 5.4" and 5.9" QHD Displays
- 2 variants (Z4, Z4 Ultra)
- Snapdragon 805
- 4.8MP Front facing camera
- 3420mah battery
- Z4 Ultra to have lower 16MP camera with dual LED flash and 5.7mm chassis thickness
Courtesy of phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Alle...-January-5th-alongside-a-5.9-Z4-Ultra_id63165
Old rumors
- New Octacore Snapdragon 810 chipset
- 4GB RAM
- 5.5" QHD display
- Build size will be similar dimensions to the Z3
- Dual front facing speakers will return to similar design as Z2
- Will retain the classic Xperia "omni-balance" design
- IP68 dust and water proof rating will remain however USB port is now exposed (similar to headphone jack)
- Possibly first phone to debut Sony's next generation 21mp camera with brand new CMOS sensor
- Launching with Android 5.0 Lollipop
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Info on the next generation Sony CMOS sensor for 2015 smartphone cameras can be found in the link below:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8165301786/sony-debuts-21mp-stacked-cmos-sensor-for-smartphones
If you find any new information please share it in this thread and I will update this post.
Well this is just depressing for us lol
None of sony clients are exclusive with such short update Phone time, this.is a shame. I just bought my xperia z3.
caqo71 said:
None of sony clients are exclusive with such short update Phone time, this.is a shame. I just bought my xperia z3.
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You already knew that Sony have been open about their 6 month flagship phone window.
The good news is that they are planning to change this with the Xperia Z4 and just keep it as their only flagship for 2015. (I'm guessing they may do a successor to the Z Ultra halfway through the year like Samsung does with it's Galaxy and Note phones)
That would be interesting, maybe i could sell my z3 and save the. money to buy a z4, but first have to check if z4 is as good as it seems to.
I like the Z3's speaker openings in the glass. Looks like the Z4 is going back to the Z2 look somewhat, hope not though. It couldn't hurt them if they reduced the top and bottom bezels and made it slightly rounder. I'm hoping they make changes for final production. Z4/M9/G4 can't wait for them.
Although difficult to say with any degree of certainty, it appears that the display size will remain at 5.2"... GSM Arena seems to think so also... However the resolution will most likely jump to 2K.
I, for 1, am def content with 5.2" AND 1080p resolution.
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The 6 month update schedule is what I love about Sony! Keeps my addiction alive
I won't be getting the Z4 if it moves to a 5.5" display. That's just too big. Z3 is like perfect right now.
I say that now, but if the Z4 camera is godlike.... who knows.
bhundt said:
The 6 month update schedule is what I love about Sony! Keeps my addiction alive
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It also makes harder to improve a device, less resources and attention to fixing issues/improvements, since they will be prepping a new model much more quickly.
I'm not banking on a Z4 release until the IMX230 is available, which I thought was March/April 2015 timeframe. The IMX230 is almost enough to make me wait on the Z4 (Z3 en route), but if the phone is substantially larger, I won't have any interest at all.
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I really hope that Verizon continues on with Sony. I have the z3v and absolutely love it.
id3alistic said:
I won't be getting the Z4 if it moves to a 5.5" display. That's just too big. Z3 is like perfect right now.
I say that now, but if the Z4 camera is godlike.... who knows.
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This.
The Z3 with 5.2" is perfect size. Anything bigger is just too big for my pockets, unless they reduce the bezel to compensate. Yeah, the camera will be one of the most important thing I'll be looking for on the Z4, seeing the Z3 is pretty horrible at the moment. I don't care much for the 2K resolution gimmick on these tiny screens--they are useless. 1080p is just fine. Also, I hope the quality assurance on the new Z4 line will improve. The Z3 line is just not acceptable from experience.
Well that is unless they go the LG route and reduce the top and bottom dead space to get a 5.5" screen. Sony however refuses to do that for some reason.
I'd prefer front facing speakers then non-existent top/bottom bezels.
Also, I've been managing to get very nice 20.7 manual pics. If u know how to use this camera & do a little homework, it can be quite impressive. Is there room for improvement in the software however - definitely. So far the Z3 has the least amount of cons vs pros then any other device I've owned or used - & I've certainly had a plethora, hehe.
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Taking a look at the supposed pictures of the digitizer , the screen size looks identical to the z3, I don't want them to go quad HD and bigger if they keep the huge bezels, if they do get rid of the bezels maybe they will go with a small battery or just keep the same capacity for the battery and we know 3000 mah is not enough for QHD just ask the G3 and the nexus 6 owners
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Totally agree Chad, I was going to upgrade to an LG G3, then I saw they battery life and it felt like a downgrade from my LG G2. They put a low contrast power hungry screen just so they could show they have QHD which is practically useless in phones (my opinion).
Maybe battery will go on 3900 or 4000 mA, like the new moto maxx
So far the specs look like a beast, let's just it's affordable.
Out of all the things listed, I personally find myself more impressed that they made the USB port to be waterproof. That's truly a step up to their waterproofing innovation.
Also the Z4 to take in some Z2 designs, it looks like Sony is definitely following the successful non-faulty designs of the Z2/Z3v to keep itself waterproof unlike certain Z3 models.
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www.techtimes.com/articles/74544/20...t-pose-for-the-camera-before-sept-2-event.htm
Sony's Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z5 Compact smartphones, which are expected to be officially unveiled at the upcoming IFA 2015 to be held in Berlin, are once again the subject of rumor mills as an image showing the two devices on top of each other has been leaked.
The image was uploaded by prolific leaker ViziLeaks on Twitter, sparking discussion on some details that can be discerned through the picture.
The picture that ViziLeaksuploaded*shows the sides of the two smartphones in detail. The thing that stands out is how the fingerprint scanner for the Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z5 Compact look like and where exactly they are located on the side of the devices. The fingerprint scanner is embedded in the power buttons of the smartphones.
It can also be seen that the volume rockers for both smartphones are placed below the fingerprint scanners, similar to previous Xperia devices albeit much lower than usual.
According to ViziLeaks in the comments, the two smartphones are shown in the picture with no case or bumper installed, meaning that the image shows what the Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z5 Compact really look like. As they are, the two smartphones appear to be continuing the OmniBalance design language that Sony has developed.
The placement of the volume rockers, however, is subject to*debate*on whether their location is an ideal one. It could be difficult to access the volume rockers using only one hand, especially on the smaller Xperia Z5 Compact, but only hands-on testing in the future will tell whether that is the case or not.
The larger model of the Xperia Z5, possibly named the Xperia Z5 Ultra, is not included in the image uploaded by ViziLeaks. However, it will also most likely feature the same design and button placements as the Xperia Z5 and the Xperia Z5 Compact.
The fingerprint scanner feature is slowly becoming a standard feature on flagship smartphones. Also, its inclusion in the Xperia Z5 smartphones shows the significance of these devices in Sony's plans.
The Xperia Z5 is expected*feature*a 5.5-inch display with 1080p resolution and will be powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 chipset with 3GB of RAM and an internal memory capacity of 32GB.*
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I don't think there's going to be a Z5 Ultra.
Only C5 Ultra
Sony E68XX (E6833, E6853 E6883) on UAProf
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/08/1...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)
C5 Ultra does look amazing and I am a little bit hopeful that a Z series phablet successor could exist, but with Z3x and Z4 ultra rumour before, it is hard not to be sceptic.
At least sony IFA event on 2nd September is not that far-off
Z5 ultra! (z5+)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/08/13/first-render-of-xperia-z5-plus-leaks/
I didn't make this video. I wanted to share it since I found that the video shows the true potential of the Xperia X series.
Display is a lot better than the normal Xperia Z5(fhd).
You will see a difference in the camera quality as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=g5SJq-Jag20
Credits to mobile geeks.de for making such a good comparison between Z5 and Xperia X series. :fingers-crossed:
Really looks like an exciting device. Just about the same size as the N5, but a little heavier...metal back and general Sony goodness. I love it - sold.
Would be nice if it was available sometime before 2017 though. In the US. With regular software security updates.
Oh there wont be a Z6. I still thought they continue there as well...
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Oh there wont be a Z6. I still thought they continue there as well...
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Source? I still believe there will be a Z6 as the 2016 sony flagship at the end of the year.
The Z5 is still very new as it's only been out for a few months right? I believe Sony stated that they will only release 1 flagship phone instead of the usual 2 per year. Also i believe the X series are being advertised as "mid-ranged" phones (Besides the Xperia X performance ofc)
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Source? I still believe there will be a Z6 as the 2016 sony flagship at the end of the year.
The Z5 is still very new as it's only been out for a few months right? I believe Sony stated that they will only release 1 flagship phone instead of the usual 2 per year. Also i believe the X series are being advertised as "mid-ranged" phones (Besides the Xperia X performance ofc)
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Well did you few the video from the Main Post - MobileGeeks.de
After 21 Seconds she sais that the Z5 was the last of the Z Series... Thats my source
pilzj said:
Well did you few the video from the Main Post - MobileGeeks.de
After 21 Seconds she sais that the Z5 was the last of the Z Series... Thats my source
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I wouldn't count that as a reliable source. But if that is true then the xperia x performance is pretty much an xperia z6 in disguise.
Why would they make a Z6 if they have the XP? Lol. XP is the new flagship.
I hope the X is only around $400. I've always just wanted a mid-range phone with a high end camera. Only thing that stopped me from getting the Nexus 5X was no sd-card and my Z3 is still good.
imho sony really messed up the pricing on this ones :| 599eur for the x with a 1080p 5" screen , snapdragon 650 and 2600mah battery???? what are they thinking?
699eur for the x performance sounds a little better with the snapdragon 820 but spending 700eur to upgrade from my z2 to this is not worth it for me unless a z6 is announced with better specs my next phone probably won't be a sony :crying:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/02/22/xperia-x-family-priced-in-europe-pre-orders-now-live/
No, they still have the Z series
But they announced X series just as a threat to the competitions.
http://www.gsmarena.com/no_xperia_z6_x_series_to_replace_z_series_sony_confirms-news-16860.php
I guess there will be no Z6 afterall..
Xplay21 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/no_xperia_z6_x_series_to_replace_z_series_sony_confirms-news-16860.php
I guess there will be no Z6 afterall..
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Also Engadget confirmed it today which seems to have an official source: http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/24/sony-no-xperia-z6/
Z-Series ends with Xperia Z5. There will not be a Z6.
Official Statement by Sony
eagle25884 said:
Z-Series ends with Xperia Z5. There will not be a Z6.
Official Statement by Sony
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Sony just lost me as a customer.... x series brings nothing new, the prices are crazy and since Z series is dead that's it for me.
My next device will probably be a xiaomi mi5 pro or the lg g5. I'm not in a hurry to upgrade my z2 (still a great phone 2 years later) so i'll wait until the mi5 and g5 are released to see how the xda community reacts to them i need to be sure their bootloaders can be unlocked and custom roms are available before i consider any of them.
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Sony just lost me as a customer.... x series brings nothing new, the prices are crazy and since Z series is dead that's it for me.
My next device will probably be a xiaomi mi5 pro or the lg g5. I'm not in a hurry to upgrade my z2 (still a great phone 2 years later) so i'll wait until the mi5 and g5 are released to see how the xda community reacts to them i need to be sure their bootloaders can be unlocked and custom roms are available before i consider any of them.
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So a LETTER was what you chose Sony for in the first place. Wow.
The smoothness of the OS, the camera, the great Aosp support of existing devices nor even the water/dust rating with almost a decade legacy of doing this in their phones, nor even the quality audio and accessories being innovative.
Sure go a ahead and deal with the competition. Personally it would be smarter to stick with Sony getting the Z line even 6 months from now as support under warranty will still continue until all sales of that device stopped.
Where do you kids think life and products are about? Change is inevitable! Get over the letter "X" drove huge success for Sony 6yrs ago why not try to repeat that.
It's a VRRY crowded market and consolidation the screen size is smart. Making the phones interact with us as humans is genius because looking down at my phone for a total of 3hrs combined a day feels unnatural in my neck - I do body build!
I want real world performance not a spec sheet that doesn't perform!!
I just bought a Z5 full retail and I'm very happy. I'll get the Z5C as a backup especially when travelling. I'll see the upgrade to the Xperia X Performance or whatever Sony brings next year. Not going to cry over spilt milk cause they made a very conscious and rational change in their product lineup.
Grow up.
Supa_Fly said:
So a LETTER was what you chose Sony for in the first place. Wow.
The smoothness of the OS, the camera, the great Aosp support of existing devices nor even the water/dust rating with almost a decade legacy of doing this in their phones, nor even the quality audio and accessories being innovative.
Sure go a ahead and deal with the competition. Personally it would be smarter to stick with Sony getting the Z line even 6 months from now as support under warranty will still continue until all sales of that device stopped.
Where do you kids think life and products are about? Change is inevitable! Get over the letter "X" drove huge success for Sony 6yrs ago why not try to repeat that.
It's a VRRY crowded market and consolidation the screen size is smart. Making the phones interact with us as humans is genius because looking down at my phone for a total of 3hrs combined a day feels unnatural in my neck - I do body build!
I want real world performance not a spec sheet that doesn't perform!!
I just bought a Z5 full retail and I'm very happy. I'll get the Z5C as a backup especially when travelling. I'll see the upgrade to the Xperia X Performance or whatever Sony brings next year. Not going to cry over spilt milk cause they made a very conscious and rational change in their product lineup.
Grow up.
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AHAH do you work at sony marketing and you got offended by my opinion? Cause your post makes no sense otherwise... When i bought my z2 almost 2 years ago it was THE top notch device. 3GB RAM, snapdragon 801, great screen, comfortable size, nice front stereo speakers, waterproof, huge battery, the best camera at the time, etc. It was very easy to justify it's flagship price and i still love the damn phone almost two years later.
Obviously i don't care about letters, naming or brands, i care about specs, functionality and price. That's were the X series fails for me because it brings nothing new to the table except slightly upgraded hardware. my biggest problem with the X series is the price range sony is placing the devices at giving it's specs, nothing else. I don't feel like an X performance is worth 700eur to upgrade from my Z2 (i would get a better cpu and camera, nothing else...i can get a z5p for less than 600eur and it still feels like a better option than the x for me).
IF you feel like it's worth it buy it, enjoy it, and stop criticizing other people opinions. I don't have a sentimental attachment to any brand so it's easy for me to choose the device that fits my needs for the best price am i not free to do that?
Honestly if i change to another brand the only thing i'll miss it's the great dev community sony has here at xda. and that doesn't include you obviously
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AHAH do you work at sony marketing and you got offended by my opinion? Cause your post makes no sense otherwise... When i bought my z2 almost 2 years ago it was THE top notch device. 3GB RAM, snapdragon 801, great screen, comfortable size, nice front stereo speakers, waterproof, huge battery, the best camera at the time, etc. It was very easy to justify it's flagship price and i still love the damn phone almost two years later.
Obviously i don't care about letters, naming or brands, i care about specs, functionality and price. That's were the X series fails for me because it brings nothing new to the table except slightly upgraded hardware.
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But going by your own logic there, the Xperia X is a worthy flagship, no?
It has the fastest cpu,
It has the fastest ram
It has improved screen,
It has stereo speakers
And the improved camera.
Take it from me, I have no intention in buying X, because I have Z5p. But come IFA, the letter won't mean jack if the specs match my expectations of a flagship.
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It has the fastest cpu --> check (x performance only)
It has the fastest ram --> only 3gb, benchmarks not available yet so not sure it'll be the fastest ram available.
It has improved screen --> maybe be improved color wise but it's smaller and the same technology.
It has stereo speakers --> check (and if i go to another brand i'll definitively miss the front stereo speakers a LOT )
And the improved camera --> somewhat, will have to see after the device is released
For a sony 2016 flagship i think it's missing usb 3.0 connectivity (deal breaker for me in 2016) , a bigger battery, 4gb of ram and at the very least 64gb of FAST internal storage. Wireless charging and an ir blaster would be an welcome bonus but not a deal breaker.
The screen size drop to 5.0" makes no sense to me either especially given the 68.1% screen-to-body ratio. 5.2 or 5.5" as in z5p would be fine.
AGAIN i'll have to reinforce I NEVER said the x series is a sh*t device (quote me if a did), i'm just stating my personal opinion that it doesn't feel like a true flagship, especially for the 700eur price.
Anyway this will be the last post i'll make on this thread. I have only stated MY opinion, i've not been aggressive/stupid and i did not make any personal attack against anyone. I don't know why some people are turning this into a personal war, and i do have better stuff to do with my time so i'm out.
ptmaniac said:
AHAH do you work at sony marketing and you got offended by my opinion? Cause your post makes no sense otherwise... When i bought my z2 almost 2 years ago it was THE top notch device. 3GB RAM, snapdragon 801, great screen, comfortable size, nice front stereo speakers, waterproof, huge battery, the best camera at the time, etc. It was very easy to justify it's flagship price and i still love the damn phone almost two years later.
Obviously i don't care about letters, naming or brands, i care about specs, functionality and price. That's were the X series fails for me because it brings nothing new to the table except slightly upgraded hardware. my biggest problem with the X series is the price range sony is placing the devices at giving it's specs, nothing else. I don't feel like an X performance is worth 700eur to upgrade from my Z2 (i would get a better cpu and camera, nothing else...i can get a z5p for less than 600eur and it still feels like a better option than the x for me).
IF you feel like it's worth it buy it, enjoy it, and stop criticizing other people opinions. I don't have a sentimental attachment to any brand so it's easy for me to choose the device that fits my needs for the best price am i not free to do that?
Honestly if i change to another brand the only thing i'll miss it's the great dev community sony has here at xda. and that doesn't include you obviously
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Spoken like a true child.
My post makes perfect sense but I see already you're beginning to backpedal from someone whom just quoted you. I'll break it down for you.
1. only a child on forums (cliché of the last 4yrs) claims someone who doesn't agree with their opinion about a brand works for said brand (first bold quote above). Hence why I said grow up!
2. When i bought my z2 almost 2 years ago it was THE top notch device
^ I stated that sales are affecting Sony's decision here to consolidate screen size and the specs along with shipping times and the brand sub-model here. SPECIFICATIONS like Skills or knowledge means nothing. It's sales to a company that continues to be a going-concern (accounting term) to make revenues that turn into profits and when sales don't go in that regard changes are inevitable for good or for worse, get used to this regardless if you don't like or do like the device ... change is here and in perfect timing. And like skills or knowledge both mean nothing without the means and the will to act ... using them (like drawing talent in a child that doesn't wish to pursue a career in that regard, drawing or visual arts is a useless skill).
3. great screen, comfortable size, nice front stereo speakers, waterproof, huge battery
Xperia Z5 Premium boasted the best screen (at least in terms of resolution and ppi).
The LG G Pro also released in April 2014 as teh Z2 had Li-Ion 3200 mAh battery http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_pro_2-6052.php
having a huge battery ... means nothing if the cpu, screen, storage and ram guzzles. Battery consumption efficiency and recharging efficiency is KEY because it's all about using the device.
4. Price ... this is a HUGE concern for what you get. No disagreements here from me ... BUT I did specifically state it's about getting more sales but more profits (the key) for Sony.
3 phones all sharing 5" LCD displays and resolution
All have the same storage options - consolidating and benefiting on economies of scale.
what you get vs what you loose in bold below. I've left out the battery because nobody knows the talk-time (continuous) standby time or continuous video/music playback times between the two on a production phone BUT if it increases you may reconsider.
XPeria X Performance (slightly smaller by dimensions but not Z5 Compact
5.0 inches (~68.1% screen-to-body ratio)
1080 x 1920 pixels (~441 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch: Yes, up to 10 fingers
Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820
Dual-core 2.15 GHz Kryo & dual-core 1.6 GHz Kryo
Adreno 530
Primary Camera: 23 MP, f/2.0, 24mm, phase detection autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera: 13 MP, f/2.0, 22mm, 1/3" sensor size, 1080p, HDR
Bluetooth: v4.2, A2DP, apt-X, LE
Radio: NONE
USB: microUSB v2.0, USB Host
Xperia Z5
5.2 inches (~69.6% screen-to-body ratio)
1080 x 1920 pixels (~428 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch: Yes, up to 10 fingers
Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810
Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 2.0 GHz Cortex-A57
Adreno 430
Primary Camera: 23 MP, f/2.0, 24mm, phase detection autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera: 5.1 MP, f/2.4, 1080p, HDR
Bluetooth: v4.1, A2DP, apt-X
Radio: FM radio with RDS
USB: microUSB v2.0 (MHL 3 TV-out), USB Host
- ANT+ support
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
At the end of the day your opinions are yours to make ... just stop being so childish about it and realize you can VOTE with your hard earned cheddar! Seems you didn't get this the first time around.
Why the fight?
I agree with @ptmaniac that its a decent phone; but its targeted for mid-rangers because the price is definitely a deal-breaker for specs like that of mid-2015.
Sony has made VERY GOOD phones in the past but coming up with X series with little to no improvements - puts the deal off. (4gb RAM, AMOLED Screen, at-least Better photo Quality on your phones when you use the same sensor you distribute to others) (My Note5, costing lesser, will defeat XP on all grounds. Wait till the phone comes in market and check out the comparison people do).
I myself have been a user of Z1 Compact (A true mini flagship) for 1.5 years, but NOW Sony doesn't feel like they are giving any value-for-money devices.
+1 on the support for Sony devices on xda. Kudos to every1 on that.
Its a personal opinion in the end. You want to buy, please go ahead and enjoy
We just dont feel like spending 700 for a mid-ranger specd phone.
Don't say we when you mean you. Again its a difference of opinion and view. Not a fight. We've already worked out our views in PM. No need to investigate.
The Z5compact is also a true small form flagship device: none has the same 810 CPU with 2GB ram and 32GB internal storage! None.
Since you're talking about a 3generation old phone you haven't seen value for the dollar in almost 3yrs not sure how you're even mentioning about this product. You mention awaiting for comparison but state camera should be better? Conundrum?