[Q] Lost root after update - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After installing googles 4.2.2 update through CWM, my bootloader remained lock, but i lost root and have no custom recovery. I used Mskip's root tool (which is absolutely amazing) to root it in the beginning. i'm wondering if i go through the root process again if that will be fine. its a one touch do all (unlock bootloader, root, install busybox, install recovery, etc). what i'm curious about, is if the bootloader is already unlocked, will the toolkit trying to unlock it again do anything bad?

unlocking the bootloader will not effect the phone in any way...just unlock bootloader and re root.i also did update then re rooted
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I had a feeling that would be fine, but definitely better to be safe. Thanks for confirming.
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Is there any method to root the Nexus 7 without unlock the bl?

is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
You need to unlock the bootloader in order to root.
WugFresh's toolkit has a friendly interface making this extremely simple:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Follow the instructions within the toolkit to ensure drivers are correct, backup apps, unlock bootloader, root device.
After doing this your Nexus will still be identical to stock.
mythomasy said:
is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
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Yep you need to unlock your bootloader to root.
You don't actually need Clock Work Mod recovery in order to be rooted.
In fact, I believe that the Wug Fresh toolkit posted by retrobeans above allows you to root and not install CWM.
Having said that, all CWM does is replace the stock Recovery on your device. This allows you to make backups, flash new ROMs and mods etc. If you never go into it, you will not notice a difference - you will still be running your stock rooted ROM. So i wouldnt be afraid of installing it . Or you can always do it at a later date if you want.
Bootloader can always be relocked with "fastboot oem lock" anyway...
why are you concerned about unlocking, or do you just not understand fastboot?
mythomasy said:
is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
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you can use a great toolkit by wugfresh which applies root without cwm. You still need to be unlocked though
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Harry GT-S5830 said:
you can use a great toolkit by wugfresh which applies root without cwm. You still need to be unlocked though
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is there any harm of being "cwm"ed? if not , i will try the easier way of one click root.(btw, i tried the wugfresh's toolkit ,but failed to install the driver...)
CWM (clockwork mod) is just a custom recovery image, from here you can flash files to your phone, wipe data, take full system backups (or restore).
Its a handy way to do key things people require when changing or modifying roms.
If in the future you will want to do any of the above then you will require a custom recovery.
Its not (in my opinion) the best recovery for the nexus 7 though, I use the Team WIN (TWRP) recovery.
You failed to install drivers? Or maybe when you installed Wug's tool it didn't download correctly? If you go and manually install the drivers which come with the tool I don't understand how they would have failed. Not trying to sound condescending or anything so sorry if I do. But Wug's toolkit (I know it's not the only one out there) is extremely easy and efficient. I would try re-downloading and on the driver install part go to
Right Click on computer
Manage
Device Manager, Here you should see a device either not detected or says that it's incorrectly installed blah blah
Right click the device and uninstall
at the top click on "Scan for Hardware Changes" (or something along those lines)
and right click your device when it comes up and the drivers are located wherever you installed his toolkit
I hope this helped and if not then just ignore. :laugh:
mythomasy said:
is there any harm of being "cwm"ed? if not , i will try the easier way of one click root.(btw, i tried the wugfresh's toolkit ,but failed to install the driver...)
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Get the pdanet drivers, cwm is just a custom recovery, for wiping data and caches. Just has a few nice options like backing up full system data and boot.img . No real disadvantage and you can always flash back stock
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Im In Same Situation
is it possible to lock bootloader after and still have root?
Also do you still recive ota updates?
jxer4567 said:
is it possible to lock bootloader after and still have root?
Also do you still recive ota updates?
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You can lock bootloader after.
You can get OTA but you would lose root and also lose your custom recovery, and with a locked bootloader you would be unable to root again
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Thank you bummed a little do i still recive ota with unlocked bootloader so i can have it rooted im wanting to keep original recovery no custom recovery but unlocked bootloader will i get ota?
jxer4567 said:
Thank you bummed a little do i still recive ota with unlocked bootloader so i can have it rooted im wanting to keep original recovery no custom recovery but unlocked bootloader will i get ota?
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Yes, unlocked bootloader does not affect OTA
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So only if i install custom recovery i lose ota just im wary with nexus 7 alot more important than v845
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Sorry fellows, but you are wrong There IS a method to root the Nexus 7 without unlocking the bootloader.
Then you can have root without wipping your data, for instance, as happens when you unlock your BL. And with root you can unlock the BL without wipping your data too. All thanks to efrant with his awesome tutorials! It is in the Galaxy Nexus Forum, but me and some others have reported to be working on the Nexus 7 too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894717 -- Root without unlocking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731993 -- Unlock BL without wipping
Let me sum it up.
Can i root without unlocking bl? yes.
Can i unlock bl without full wipe , when i do it the first time? no.
So u install pdanet drivers(i know, i had driver problems on my old win xp company laptop), then unlock bl, root. Thats it. u dont need to install CWM(btw, I prefer TWRP).
OTA updates n recovery: As far as i know, u will receive OTA updates whether u have CWM or not, but when u click install for the update, if u have CWM/TWRP, it wont install. It will install properly only if u have stock recovery.
OTA updates n root: U will get n will be able to install updates whether or not u have root. But u will lose root if u install the update. Re rooting is esy if u already have an unlocked BL, but theres an app "voodoo ota rootkeeper", that makes a backup of your root status b4 update n then restores it after update. N its free!! Nice, huh?
Unlocking BL shindig: So u would have 2 reasons for not wanting to keep ur BL unlocked. First, if anything goes wrong(very very very unlikely, believe me I have done a lot of crap on this phone, its extremely hard to brick), u need to return it in BL locked state. Second: Security. If your phone gets stolen n ur BL is unlocked, some guy could easily flash CWM n flash a custom rom n access all your data. For both cases, I suggest a very useful technique.
1.Unlock BL.
2.Root
3.Relock BL.
4. Install app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker. This app will let u unlock BL from within a rooted phone without having to wipe your whole phone. If you are confused at this point, let me explain further, in case something happens to your phone n u need 2 return, u can just return it, if BL is locked, there wont b any issues. Also, if your phone is stolen, the theif wont b able to access it without completely wiping ur phone(unless he is a xda member n knows about that app!!! lol).
Got it?
Lennyuk said:
CWM (clockwork mod) is just a custom recovery image, from here you can flash files to your phone, wipe data, take full system backups (or restore).
Its a handy way to do key things people require when changing or modifying roms.
If in the future you will want to do any of the above then you will require a custom recovery.
Its not (in my opinion) the best recovery for the nexus 7 though, I use the Team WIN (TWRP) recovery.
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I think The peeps who also agree twrp is much better than CWM is grown to the point where is the preimanant force for custom backup now. This Dev is 100% correct in my opinion also

does flashing stock rom remove root or re-lock bootloader?

as topic states....i want to flash store rom to make sure everything is deleted since settings factory reset did not do so. however, i want the bootloader to stay unlock and phone to retain root. thanks in advance!:victory:
Boot loader will stay unlocked, root will be deleted if you're wiping /system.
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There is an app that will save your root.. It is voodoo something.. Will find it and tell you..
Voodoo ota root protector - search the play store.
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If you flash factory image via fast boot you will lose root and custom kernel. Boot loader will stay open until you lock it again using toolkit or from factory image command via fast boot.
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pdkenji said:
If you flash factory image via fast boot you will lose root and custom kernel. Boot loader will stay open until you lock it again using toolkit or from factory image command via fast boot.
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don't use toolkit. the command to relock bootloader is,
fastboot oem lock
zephiK said:
don't use toolkit. the command to relock bootloader is,
fastboot oem lock
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Don't bother locking your bootloader. You'll just have to wipe everything the next time you go to root the phone or flash anything
hoponpop said:
Don't bother locking your bootloader. You'll just have to wipe everything the next time you go to root the phone or flash anything
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Pay attention. He was responding to the post he quoted and telling that member the proper way to lock a bootloader.

[Q] Does Custom Recovery require a prior bootloader unlock?

Is it possible to flash twrp .img using flashboot without first unlocking the bootloader...
move the SuperSU .zip over to internal SD
flash with TWRP
and then install bootunlocker
I ask, because I dont want to lose all data by
Code:
fastboot OEM unlock
command and I am not sure if a custom recovery requires an unlocked bootloader (I assume recover is still strapped to initial handoff of bootloader)
Also, this seems both safer and more convenient than leaving bootloader unlocked after customizations... or locking and restoring backups
I'm quite sure you would have to unlock the boot loader before flashing a custom recovery, although there may be some way around it that I'm not aware of.
If you want to save your data just copy it to a desktop computer before unlocking then copy it back when you're done. Of course, without root you will have to reinstall your apps.
No need to unlock just use the Superboot - Nexus 10 root solution then use something like ROM Manager to install CWM. Worked for me so now I have a locked rooted nexus 10 with CWM.
Yeah... I just wanted to do it the old fashioned way and get dirty...
but as suspected, when trying to flash recovery image via fastboot, I get the old locked bootloader routine.
This is why the first thing to do to a Nexus is to unlock its bootloader.
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bk201doesntexist said:
This is why the first thing to do to a Nexus is to unlock its bootloader.
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Granted... There is a way to root without unlocking, but it requires dicey operations with partitions that could result in a fancy paperweight.
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To root?

I've just got my N4 and am thinking about rooting it to allow me to install cerebus on the system partition, when a new version of android comes out would I simply be able to delete the cerebus apk and update the software? Also once the boot loader is unlocked can I re-root (in case i loose root with the update) without loosing any data?
Cheers
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Unlock the boot loader before you do anything because it will wipe all of your data. Then root it. As long as you don't install a custom recovery, I believe that you can still get the ota updates.
Edit..Rooting does not wipe data.
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Sweet, thanks very much.
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lyall29 said:
Unlock the boot loader before you do anything because it will wipe all of your data. Then root it. As long as you don't install a custom recovery, I believe that you can still get the ota updates.
Edit..Rooting does not wipe data.
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if i remember correctly, using a custom recovery stops OTA updates
but you can always fastboot flash a new google stock image when an update is available : https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
(you have to root again afterwards)

Update problem

I am trying to update my tablet to lollipop. But every time I do the OTA update it makes it halfway through and says Error. I would like to update to lollipop and then root it again. What should I do. I was rooted at one time. I even did a factory reset and can't get it to update.
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gatoremt said:
I am trying to update my tablet to lollipop. But every time I do the OTA update it makes it halfway through and says Error. I would like to update to lollipop and then root it again. What should I do. I was rooted at one time. I even did a factory reset and can't get it to update.
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Is your bootloader unlocked? Have you tried flashing the official factory image through fastboot? The most friendly utility in this situation is Nexus Root Toolkit. You can get root easily with it as well as unlock bootloader, flash kernel, rom, basically everything. I'd really suggest downloading that.
It was and it updated to 4.4.4 and I lost root. So I can use the root tool kit to update to lollipop?
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I'm not sure, but I think you can. Search the web for that one. Your bootloader NEEDS to be unlocked in order to update to lollipop. If I were you, I'd flash the image using flash-all script provided in the factory image package. It is fully automated and I haven't experienced a problem with it.
I got it fixed thanks
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No problem, glad to hear that!
Fobos531 said:
Is your bootloader unlocked? Have you tried flashing the official factory image through fastboot? The most friendly utility in this situation is Nexus Root Toolkit. You can get root easily with it as well as unlock bootloader, flash kernel, rom, basically everything. I'd really suggest downloading that.
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Found this post through Google after having the same problem trying to apply the 5.1 OTA to a formerly rooted Nexus 7 Grouper. Using the Skipsoft Toolkit to unroot didn't work right, kept producing a aituation where it wouldn't boot Android and attempting to flask the stock image would fail too.
Used Nexus Root Toolkit "Flash Stock + Unroot" option to return to stock, and then applied the 5.1 factory image using the no wipe option and regain root and everything worked PERFECTLY. All my user data is even still intact.
Thanks very much for this!
That is what I did too.
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