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WiFi dissapointing

Went into college today for the first time with my new HD. Two of the folks in my class have iPhones.
Anyway, from the start of the day, the colleges wifi was coming and going on my phone, the signal strength was barely registering and I could not browse at all. I went into WiFi advanced settings and set power to full, this made little difference.
Both my friends with iPhones were able to browse happily.
I'm now home and deciding to check out performance here. I've just gone back into WiFi - Advanced, made sure power was at "Best Performance". My battery is at about 70%. All I'm getting is 3 bars of signal strength, varying from about 50-60% signal.
Here's the problem, I'm only sitting literally 6 feet from the router. I'd call that f'n lousy.
My laptop shows a connection signal strength of 100% / Full Bars / 100%.
So WiFi signal strength is lousy at College and lousy here at home. Is there anything i can do ?

I experience exactly the same reception quality with my HD. But for what its worth, this is exactly the same performance I got with my Touch Pro and my TyTn II before that.

.....mmmm yes I had a tytn and it was bad compared to my great xda2i...
I wonder if it is something a radio update could solve? i'm getting my HD thursday!!

If you plug in your headphone, does the signal strength improve?

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If you plug in your headphone, does the signal strength improve?
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No, and I even tried connecting to external power. made no difference. I also notice that if I tilt the HD a bit this way and that the signal drops even further. I have had it here at 15-20% while sitting 6 feet from the Router.
This to me is a deal breaker, I dont think I can live with this. Its bloody awful, and I hate the way it kept dropping the wifi connection in college.

Hmm not sure of the problem, my Wifi signal strength is pretty much equal to my PCs, im 20 feet away and get 80%.

I've never been able to get reliable wifi on my Tytn. Sad to hear the problem persists in a handset I was considering moving up to.

I'm satisfied with the signal strength. Yes, it is weaker than on my netbook or my notebook, but I use the "Best Battery" mode and I get around 80% signal strength 15 feet away from my router.

Ugh say it ain't so.

I use the WiFi to listen to internet radio around the house.
I've not experienced any problems even when upstairs at the furthest distance from my cheap-n'-cheerful Netgear router. At this range, the signal will have to pass through several brick walls.
Having discovered the signal strength readout in the settings, I notice that it does not read very high, but this doesn't seem to adversely affect the performance.
As far as I am concerned, the WiFi is "fit for purpose" and doesn't seem to differ much from my laptop.

Maybe your wifi is defective... Mine works fine with walls between me and the router, my TyTN II also has no problems, my old TyTN used to drop the connection as soon as it connected, was useless for wifi.

Hmm
I'm sorry to say that my wifi on the HD works fantastic. It even picks up wifi networks my netbook deosn't. I use it all day long at home then connect when at work.
I don't care what the signal strength is in various rooms I just get on with it. Having said that its 3 or 4 bars in all the rooms so all good here.
What sort of Routers are you having problems with?
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Hmm
I'm sorry to say that my wifi on the HD works fantastic. It even picks up wifi networks my netbook doesn't. I use it all day long at home then connect when at work.
I don't care what the signal strength is in various rooms I just get on with it. Having said that its 3 or 4 bars in all the rooms so all good here.
What sort of Routers are you having problems with?
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I'd like to hear from ppl who have tested the device within a weak WiFi zone such as my room in college.
My experience was that it drops the network. Literally would drop it as soon as it had connected. I was nearly crying. In the same place, my laptop and my mates iPhones work grand. So maybe some of you could test it in weak zones.
To those of you defending it and saying its fit for purpose, please dont forget how much we paid for this thing. I would have expected decent WiFi. It clearly isnt! Another thing that dissapoints.
Regarding what kind or routers I'm usin, DLINK, Netgear and I aint got a clue what they run in college. But thats not the point, the point is that in my place of work, the only device that does not work at all is my VERY EXPENSIVE Touch HD. Everything else (laptops, iphones, other phones) works. That makes me kinda sick

I've had very good signal at home and at work where its a big building. I think something might be wrong with yours try to have it exchanged.

I don't have the device, but on my Artemis I can select how good the wifi works, either auto, battery optimized or full power. Whenever I select full power it gets a better signal. Maybe you have such an option on your device too?

I have connected to about 4 different WIFI routers without problems.
The furthest was about 50 meters away with solid walls... Perhaps there is a fault with your HD? Consider returning for a replacement and see if it's any better.

objective opinion
theoretically, Touch HD's (and most of the HTC's phones) should have weaker wifi performance than iphone. Performance = throughput and/or ability to lock onto signals and/or range.
reason: touch hd uses TI (Texas Instrument)'s wifi chip, lab testings shows about 12 mbps
iphone uses Marvel wifi chip, lab testing shows 18 mbps.
TI chip is much cheaper in price than marvels, that's the reason why HTC chose them.
that being said, i have seen weak wifi signals in my house, where it would see the AP, but can't associate (at certain spots). but for me, once it associates , it will lock on pretty well. wifi through put is definitely weaker than iphone, despite the CPU advantage -> 528 MHz, vs. iphone's downclocked 400 Mhz (from 667MHz)
also, your school would uses enterprise AP, so it's either cisco or aruba. but it should not make a difference. the immediate remedy for your HOME, is to go into the router's console and change the channel away from the default 1, 6 or 11. those three channels have the most interference, because most ppl don't bother change them, so your neighbor would be on those channel too.

Mine seems to work 'ok'...
I live in a 100+ year old house, so the walls are pretty thick!
If I'm in the bedroom furthest from my router, my laptop gets a weak signal - and my HD does too (just about enough to watch YouTube with only a very occasional break)
So it certainly seems no worse - and considering that HD have squeezed a laptop into the size of a flattened fag packet, I'm happy enough with that

gt112 said:
I'd like to hear from ppl who have tested the device within a weak WiFi zone such as my room in college.
My experience was that it drops the network. Literally would drop it as soon as it had connected. I was nearly crying. In the same place, my laptop and my mates iPhones work grand. So maybe some of you could test it in weak zones.
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I don't exactly have that situation but:
- I use a US Robotics access point
- When sitting 6ft away from it, I get near ~100% signal strength, as you would expect
- Through some walls I get only a very slight decrease in signal strength
- My phone often picks up access points that my laptop (macbook pro, has quite reliable wireless) in other homes which are separated by thick concrete walls and easily 30 to 60 feet away
- At the office I can use my wireless outside, if I'm at least close to the building
- So basically it works as efficient as the wireless on any decent notebook I've used, which usually have stronger and better powered receivers than phones
gt112 said:
To those of you defending it and saying its fit for purpose, please dont forget how much we paid for this thing. I would have expected decent WiFi. It clearly isnt! Another thing that dissapoints.
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True, you must expect nothing less than good performance, and as stated by many people, you can also expect the HD to offer that performance, it is simply there (well on the average HD). Something must not be working right, either the radio version, glitchy software, or in the worst case, the hardware is faulty, it happens on the best devices. If your wireless receiver has a hardware fault causing it to conflict you will see these drops as the device randomly disables en reenables all the time.
I'd suggest making use of your warranty while you still can.

[Q] crappy wifi performance?

I seem to only get about 200kb/s via wifi on internal networks -- other people seeing the same thing?

mine is working good here...10mb per second...

mine is fast 14.6 download 4 up

14 down consistently which is better than some of my laptops get

Mine is super fast compare to both my modded n1 and g2. Usually the phones do 4 gbps down and 1.something, the xoom doubles
The speed: 9 down and 4 up.
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Download speeds are quick and speed tests match my Dell laptop.

No issues here...

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I seem to only get about 200kb/s via wifi on internal networks -- other people seeing the same thing?
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i always find that when speeds let down or connectivity problem arise then reset. I reset modem, router, and laptop and then all is good in the world.

Yeah, my xoom's wifi is dropping its connections to my wireless router. I will reset everything on my home network. But I still think something is wrong. I will also try a tether from my galaxy s 4g to see if I get the same loss of connection. I will respond in the next day or two on what happens.
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What are you guys using to speed test?

Mine is working.fine. reset my friend
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Yeah my xoom will only load half of sites, no matter how long I wait. Wont load facebook or engadget at all. Xda works fine though.
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Well, I said I would respond in the next day or two. Well, I've downloaded speedyest.net app from my tetherred phone while my wireless network was resetting. From tether: 2.60mb dl .60mb ul. From wireless network: 17.9mb dl and 2.9mb ul. No connection drops now. Things seem to be fine since resetting network and leaving it off for 10+ minutes.

Mine is working fine...way better than with 3g. Not sure about the signal of verizon in my area, my galaxy tab from tmo is faster.

I got 20M down and 1M up on my wi-fi. My Droid X can barely get 6M down and 1M up.

Not quite the same issue - my speed is fine - but I've noticed the Xoom gets 1-2 less bars of signal on WiFi in the same location than my iPhone or iPad.
It's also quite variable - depending on the orientation of the device, I watch the WiFi signal meter go up and down from 4 bars to 0, and even drop the connection. Meanwhile, my iPad is perfectly happy.
I have also noticed it's worse on 802.11n 5GHz vs 2.4GHz.

What else other than speed test.net app? Lol.
Here's a tip on how to increase your wifi performance. Not by much but it helps:
Use an aluminum foil sheet. Put the sheet behind the router and point it to where you usually use your device.
My ps3 read 92 percent, a 24 percent bump. The router is located in the living room where it has to travel through 2 walls to get to my room. My nexus and the xoom read 3 bars constantly vs 2 bars before.
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Love my SGS2 but need your help

Hi Guys,
I have just moved from my iphone4 (well not completely) to an SGS2 which is my first dance with android.
Am quite happy with my purchase however am having some issues.
1) The phone gets warm at times. Sometimes too warm. Any of you facing that issue. Sometimes the screen is warm other times the area around the camera gets really warm.
2) I m not getting decent wireless coverage. In places around my house where I get 2 bars on my iphone, the SGS2 gets barely one. Which is very annoying considering the SGS2 is the best phone out there!
If anyone is facing the above issues and have been able to solve them, pls advise.
Thanks advance,
a2zt
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I have come from an iPhone 4 too. Yes the phone does get very warm around the camera and screen in certain situations.
Wifi signal is pretty erratic, but speeds are the same as my iPhone. I just think the signal bars are not accurate.
You will also find that battery life is not as good either.
It's a great phone in all other respects and hopefully future updates will improve things

when its warm, i mean hot, the dual core cpu goes wild, no worries, its a safety feature built in, so you don't end up with a bunch of melted plastic in your hands
the wifi signal its strange, but not just on this phone, on every phone i have ever tested, ~250, i have seen this weirdness in action, in places where i get full signal on one phone, i get zero bars on another... so don't worry and try to connect to networks with at least 2 bars

simacca said:
I have come from an iPhone 4 too. Yes the phone does get very warm around the camera and screen in certain situations.
Wifi signal is pretty erratic, but speeds are the same as my iPhone. I just think the signal bars are not accurate.
You will also find that battery life is not as good either.
It's a great phone in all other respects and hopefully future updates will improve things
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allthough theres this big op bug on the sgs ii some of it is fixed in new roms.
Hopefully soon samsung will fix this

Also when it gets warm for no reason wifi sharing may be running also eating up my battery.
androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s2/365603-ridiculous-wi-fi-sharing-bug.html
Without rooting I use "osmonitor" app to detect when it is eating up the CPU making the phone warm and then I have to kill wifisharing manually.
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a2zt said:
2) I m not getting decent wireless coverage. In places around my house where I get 2 bars on my iphone, the SGS2 gets barely one. Which is very annoying considering the SGS2 is the best phone out there!
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From previous discussions, it seems the SGS2 and certain routers don't get along well. A couple of us with high-end Netgear's (N600/N750) seem to be getting excellent coverage. I get good signal through three stories of concrete with very little battery drain (one of the by-products of a weaker signal). I know you shouldn't have to replace your router to please your phone, but it's something to consider.

Thanks for the responses guys.
I am using Dlink E2000 router with an external antenna. Does that play nice with SGS2?
Any suggestions on which custom Rom I should try?
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a2zt said:
Hi Guys,
1) The phone gets warm at times. Sometimes too warm. Any of you facing that issue. Sometimes the screen is warm other times the area around the camera gets really warm.
Yes multiple posts on this topic dont worry its dual core .
2) I m not getting decent wireless coverage. In places around my house where I get 2 bars on my iphone, the SGS2 gets barely one
Bars do not measure signal strength use a proper measure like
http://www.appbrain.com/app/wifi-analyzer/com.farproc.wifi.analyzer
If anyone is facing the above issues and have been able to solve them, pls advise.
Again multiple posts on the forum .
Custom rom you choose but rooting and custom rom voids warranty .
Villain rom for me at present .
jje
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a2zt said:
Any suggestions on which custom Rom I should try?
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I updated to the new XEU KF3 official ROM last night and it improved Wi-Fi strength for me noticeably.

Verizon G2 internet speeds low?

My Verizon G2 has horrible wifi speeds, and all the other devices are great. My S4 could get great speeds and access from the other side of my house, and my G2 barely gets anywhere near that even 10 feet from the router. I've read that it could be related to wifi calling somehow. Can anyone diagnose the problem? I've tried multiple ROMs, all of them had the same issue. Please don't tell me to return it, that's not an option being on TWRP

greydelta38 said:
My Verizon G2 has horrible wifi speeds, and all the other devices are great. My S4 could get great speeds and access from the other side of my house, and my G2 barely gets anywhere near that even 10 feet from the router. I've read that it could be related to wifi calling somehow. Can anyone diagnose the problem? I've tried multiple ROMs, all of them had the same issue. Please don't tell me to return it, that's not an option being on TWRP
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If you can not solve the problem you can always return to stock and Verizon will not be the wiser. Not be wise, you have reset the router being you are having this issue on several roms, I thinking it would be a based issue with either the phone or the router.

I'm not seeing this at all. My WiFi speed/signal are comparable to my razr, range is about the same too. My internet speed on WiFi is another story though, rotten HughesNet...
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garywojdan81 said:
I'm not seeing this at all. My WiFi speed/signal are comparable to my razr, range is about the same too. My internet speed on WiFi is another story though, rotten HughesNet...
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Okay, I need to clarify- in WiFi settings, the G2 is telling me my wireless signal is sending 72 mbps, however when I load webpages, download apps, watch Youtube, etc it downloads incredibly slowly. It seems like something in the phone is a problem.

greydelta38 said:
Okay, I need to clarify- in WiFi settings, the G2 is telling me my wireless signal is sending 72 mbps, however when I load webpages, download apps, watch Youtube, etc it downloads incredibly slowly. It seems like something in the phone is a problem.
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Have you tried resetting your router? For me, I have great connection speed and signal strength to my router, but my satellite internet speed stinks so I just usually keep 4g on at home.
Have you checked your speed through another device?
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garywojdan81 said:
Have you tried resetting your router? For me, I have great connection speed and signal strength to my router, but my satellite internet speed stinks so I just usually keep 4g on at home.
Have you checked your speed through another device?
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I reset it, restarted the modem, shut off the computer, even turned the strip all the way off so they weren't getting power. Restarted everything, same problem. I changed the router settings to auto band width and it seemed to get a little getter range but the speed was still slow. I thinks it's just time for a new router. It's a linksys e2000- I'm wondering if this router just doesn't play nice with newer smartphones.

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I reset it, restarted the modem, shut off the computer, even turned the strip all the way off so they weren't getting power. Restarted everything, same problem. I changed the router settings to auto band width and it seemed to get a little getter range but the speed was still slow. I thinks it's just time for a new router. It's a linksys e2000- I'm wondering if this router just doesn't play nice with newer smartphones.
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Ran into that with my old linksys router with Windows Vista. Got a dlink awhile back with issues.
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garywojdan81 said:
Ran into that with my old linksys router with Windows Vista. Got a dlink awhile back with issues.
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Interesting.... so this could be coincidental, that it happened to go bad as soon as I got a G2. A new router would probably fix my problems?

greydelta38 said:
Interesting.... so this could be coincidental, that it happened to go bad as soon as I got a G2. A new router would probably fix my problems?
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Well, I'm not guaranteeing anything. Have you tried your d/l speeds on any other networks? I'd do that first.
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Possible battery life fix

Hi guys
So I've had the 6p for about 2 weeks now. Great phone but was never really happy with the battery life. I was always getting between 3 - 4hoirs sot but I'd seen people getting 6-7.
Well after tinkering about I think I've found a solution.... Or maybe it's just for me.
I went I to WiFi serti gs and then advanced and then changed the network to only 5ghz, once I'd done this I set my home network up on a 5ghz spectrum and connected to that for the WiFi......all of a sudden I'm getting 6.5 hours SOT.
Not sure if this will work for everyone or if many people will even have the facility to set up a 5gjz home network but if you do give it a try and see if helps.

most ppl will get better battery life on 2.4ghz only

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most ppl will get better battery life on 2.4ghz only
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I tried that and it had no effect at all. Swapped it over to 5ghz and the difference was substantial

I've tried both options and saw no difference. For me the problem is that at home and gf house we use 5ghz. Work and everywhere else use 2.4. So after experimenting forcing either or for a few days I went back to auto. So no difference between any of them.

Yea, if you have a larger home then 5ghz sucks.
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powerwagon said:
Yea, if you have a larger home then 5ghz sucks.
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Unless you have a really great router that is
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Unless you have a really great router that is
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Nah...even with my Asus RT-AC87U setup in the middle of my house, 5ghz band signal degrades in the corners of the home where the bedrooms are to the point that 2.4 speeds far surpass it. It's not even that large of a house...3300 sq ft.

ga9213 said:
Nah...even with my Asus RT-AC87U setup in the middle of my house, 5ghz band signal degrades in the corners of the home where the bedrooms are to the point that 2.4 speeds far surpass it. It's not even that large of a house...3300 sq ft.
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That's why you get multiple access points. 5GHz is a much better band to be on if you have a quality signal.