HTC Fail - EVO Shift 4G General

now, with this in mind, does this affect HTC users using custom aosp roms, or just people running sense roms? would we have to take updates and lose root so their updates can patch drivers and **** were unaware of? etc, you get my drift.
http://thehackernews.com/2013/02/privacy-of-millions-of-htc-devices-at.html

Reading the actual complaint it seems like its all either at the apk level or android os level, nothing in the drivers so Asop users should be fine.
After this though, I can guarantee that I will never buy an htc phone again. This is insane to me.

Wow....after this gets out to the general public, looks like its game over for HTC
Damn, why did Sense have to be so good-looking.

i love HTC, but to find this out sickens me that they think so little of peoples data. its a sad day for us who like sense. oh welly then.

CNexus said:
Wow....after this gets out to the general public, looks like its game over for HTC
Damn, why did Sense have to be so good-looking.
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Good thing I never cared for sense much.
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-somebody- said:
i love HTC, but to find this out sickens me that they think so little of peoples data. its a sad day for us who like sense. oh welly then.
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It's been working up to this with HTC, Carrier IQ came installed on your Shift remember? It's just another step in the wrong direction.... Google is becoming even more of a data whore too... :banghead: I don't like people "spying" on me or doing crap to my phone without my knowledge. Epic Fail HTC, and to think I thought they were getting back into the game... SMH.

bilgerryan said:
It's been working up to this with HTC, Carrier IQ came installed on your Shift remember? It's just another step in the wrong direction.... Google is becoming even more of a data whore too... :banghead: I don't like people "spying" on me or doing crap to my phone without my knowledge. Epic Fail HTC, and to think I thought they were getting back into the game... SMH.
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my thoughts exactly

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Does anyone else here feel... empty?

Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
Darch is still here, Regaw is still here. Not sure who else is.
Toast and flipz have said hero dev will continue, just slow. I think jschi didn't jump ship either. And he is a genius
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
tatonka_hero said:
and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
radxcoresteven said:
When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
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No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
cheer up
HeroMeng said:
It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
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HeroMeng said:
No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
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there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
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Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
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^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
usq said:
there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
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I'm not that sad... lol. I am, however, sweltering, tired, and need to turn my AC on. Darchdroid is the best OC rom out there, and RegawMOD is the best NON-OC rom out there, so I think we are pretty good in the dev side of things.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
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That sucks. I forgot the Nexus was an HTC phone, but I was mostly referring to getting phones that don't have Sense. They usually are updated much faster.
I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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The Hero is sort of the unwanted stepchild of XDA now. But, all the first-time Ebay adopters are coming to our "rescue".
I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
Save up and buy an evo.
This is just how the phone loop rolls, once theres something better , you don't go back.
I will be keeping my hero, but yeah look at it this way , XDA devs are not the only ones dumping the phone , so is sprint.
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Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a f
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
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It does have "full root" but the storage has nand locked/protected. It's like that little switch on and SD card or floppy to protect it only its software not hardware theyll break it in a week or two. You can pull apks in recovery... and WiFi tether needs a netfilter kernel so give em a week and it will work.
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Jus10o said:
I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
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Well Regaw should be back at it soon and with you here it should all be ok anyways.

Samsungs Evolution begins 2/13.

So Samsung's bragging again that it's going to introduce a "evolution" and in the picture its the Galaxy S and then a white blog signifying it's "masterpiece" that it hopes to unveil on Feb. 13. Speculation seems to point at it's possibly them actually showing off the Vibrant 4G or another device.
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
Take a read,
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/samsung-to-introduce-the-next-evolution-of-the-galaxy-s-on-february-13-but-will-they-ever-update-it/
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The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
I understand they can't just release a phone and wait 2 years to release another one. But ( I guess I cut the ending short) they need to work on supporting what they have out now along side what they push out in the future. It's sad that the cell phone business has taken on Apples take of things. Make a new device, sells millions. A year later push out the same phone but with "enhancements" and newer things. Wait another year and do the same thing, and then drop support for the original after the 2nd one comes out..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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megatherian said:
I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Unfortunately as soon as Samsung announced a phone with 4.3" SuperAMOLED+ screen and a Tegra2-beating Orion SOC, everyone who were complaining about the Android updates will secretly be counting their savings so that they can get the latest and the greatest hardware. Such is the way of phone upgraditis.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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You spelled "whiny" wrong....
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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im a whiney little ***** haha......have you spent any time in the general section??? nothing but whining lately. what makes me any different?? because i go against the majority, which makes me an easy target??? take a nap dude. at least i make points and contribute to the debate, i dont think ive seen you make one yet. youjustkillpeople apparently
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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iwillkillyou said:
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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since the beginning?? i started my *****-thread on monday.....this class-action/fck samsung/lack of froyo crap has been going on for weeks....pleasedontkillme, thats all i ask
back up your accusations dude
Samsung sucks yo.
EDIT: NVM..
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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Dan_Brutal said:
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.......AND SAMSUNG STILL HASNT UPDATED ME TO VERSION 65.32.9!!!! I HATE SAMSUNG. lets start a class action lawsuit!!! hell no, we wont go! hell no, we wont go!!!!!
apparently we are the neglected orphans of the smartphone world. its only us. its only samsung. wowowowow.....it is so much fun to sit here at work, and just wonder how miserable it must be to invest so much emotion into the OS of your phone (which you can get in a custom ROM anyway)
you knwo what would solve all of these problems?? TRADE BLAKE WHEELER
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
golmar88 said:
Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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dude ive been saying this for the past two days, and these weenies just flame me because i challenge their little cause......i think this post says it all:
-Originally Posted by TopShelf10-
So ignorant to the fast-growing industry of the cell phone. Name one combination of user-devicemodel-OSprovider-Manufacturer-NetworkProvider that is flawless. You roam around the internet you will find people complaining about these kinds of things eeeeverywhere. Lack of updates, lack of device support, lack of customer loyalty, unkept promises, hardware/software issues, blahblahblahhhhHHHhHHhHHHhhhHH
Nowadays, smartphones are outdated/obsolete within 6months of their release. Yes, indeed, its a monster that the manufacturers have created for themselves, and theres no way they can keep up with their competition while also keeping every single one of you crying babies happy. Yes, its an ugly industry, and it isnt fair. BUT ITS THE WAY IT IS.
*****, moan, *****, moan, *****, moan alllllll you want. File your class action lawsuits, spam their customer service lines, create facebook pages and twitter accounts, start petitions. do you think its going to change ANYTHING?? do you think its just THAT easy? you guys just sound so damn pathetic with all of your bellyaching.
Youre on a forum that is meant for modding your device, and making it better than the way it came out of the box, yet you are complaining that they wont do it for you. Then why are you guys even here??? No device is perfect. And when the day comes that they do release a perfect device, they will release an even more perfect device shortly after....thus making the prior one not perfect, and people *****ing for updates on their old ones to make it as good as the new one. Round-and-round we go.
Consumers will NEVER be happy, and you guys are proving that. Do some research before buying a damn phone next time. Dont buy it right when its released just because its the hottest thing, and having the phone that is on all the commercials gives you a sense of purpose. Maybe next time wait a couple months, come onto XDA, and see if the children are whining about the damn GPS. That would be a tell-tale warning, wouldnt you say? Then Samsung wont have your money, youll still have your upgrade to play with, and you wont be stuck with a device that didnt get sharted from god's ass. Problem solved.
To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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if i didnt use all of my 5 "thanks" for the day, id thank you......um......thank you
TopShelf10 said:
oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.....
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Lmfao. That **** cracks me up. Got Nos on that *****?
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The future of Custom Roms on the EVO 3D might be slim...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
They got the thunderbolt rooted, but every file is locked and signed. ;(
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I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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ouch. thats grim.
Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.
that would have been my next question, if V had requested this setup specifically.
it would seem the "other companies" are oh-so-bunched-up re: tethering w/o a plan, being the big issue with custom ROMs. Sprint might not be as concerned (so far) about that, and thus, not concerned about rooted phones? idk... idle speculation
No surprise here. After all, they did cripple their gpus for over 4 years. This is nothing. Htc = garbage.
Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
On the other hand, the devs only took three days to break all that ****, so perhaps it's a case of "anything you can do, we can do better," and HTC/Verizon's efforts will meet with utter #FAIL.
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Htc = garbage.
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compared to what, exactly?
I an confidant I will have super user permissions and custom everything thanks to my geek friends on here.
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kingdazy said:
compared to what, exactly?
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His opinion. Take it as a grain of salt
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Hoping that this is just because of douche-baggery on Verizon's part -- that they requested the phone be totally locked down, like the Moto products that they are selling.
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I'm betting that this is the case.
Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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Am I the only one thinking: so what?
So I can't jack sense... That will do nothing to stop me from replacing the files with a CM ROM. Signing the files doesn't prevent the replacing of files...
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.
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I think it does. I remember back when we were starting to flashing ROMs... well they had to be signed in order to be installed or the recovery program would outright refuse to put it on the phone. I guess the implication on this is that even the recovery image itself must be signed in order to install as well as the ROMs. Now, with the EVO, the recovery part does not care if the ROM zip file is signed or not (well, RA has this setting disabled so it will flash regardless) but there was one point where any file that needed to be flashed on the device needed to be signed.
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Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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Yay!!!
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psych2l said:
Engadget is usually slow with these updates, they've already gotten around this issue. Thunderbolt is as open as it can get
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
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I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)
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I highly doubt it is even possible for any company to completely lock out android hackers. We have some of the most knowledgeable hackers in our community, some of whom have been around for many many years and have seen there share of OS's
They can slow us down, but they can never stop us.
If they do manage to stop us then I shall move to windows 7 (highly unlikely)
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Yup and we will all get a clone of every chick we would love to smash (also highly unlikely)
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
I can't believe this I thought HTC would never do this to the community!
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id bet cash its Verizon and not HTC doing this
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Honestly, I'd be very surprised if the Evo 3D was locked down like this. I'm willing to bet that Verizon asked them to make it this way, and they complied.
Sprint, on the other hand, hasn't been the type of company to try to keep everything locked down and make it harder for the dev community. Big V definitely has, as exemplified by the Droid X.
Besides, even if it does come out all locked down like that, the devs here will have it opened up within a few days.
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I bet you're right, verizon is anal about locking their phones down, they are evil people! I hate verizon...
According to some of the comments it is the same old locked bootloader as the evo and incredible. I doubt HTC will try that hard to lock them down.
heck, sometimes I wonder if they give hints about security holes on purpose. Just the other day I saw something in one of the new ROM leaks that gave me some ideas

Decisions, Decisions: Iphone 5 Coming to sprint, Docs revealed

http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/04/best-...e-5-for-sprint-preorders-starting-next-month/
Not that I'm getting it, lol.
What are your thoughts?
Idk I have the nexus and it perfect I just see myself getting really bored of an iPhone
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/04/best-...e-5-for-sprint-preorders-starting-next-month/
Not that I'm getting it, lol.
What are your thoughts?
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no flash support, no keyboard. no thanks. i dont hate ios, i dont love android. im just happy where im at.
OO Helllls yes !!! iPhone here i cum !!1
Apple all the way bee otches !!!!
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Im happy because now most of the average phone users will go over to the iPhone and our android forums wont be cluttered up as much ... i hope....
It's over rated, nothing really great about it
I think it's good for Sprint as a company, but I don't want it.
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no flash support, no keyboard. no thanks. i dont hate ios, i dont love android. im just happy where im at.
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QFT
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Thank You Crucifixion......Nothing Special about an IPhone. NOT A DARN THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't get me wrong.. the iphone5 is going to be really sweet. But idk, i have an ipod and an ipad.. the UI can get boring as all it is a is a big app drawer ui. The apps are DEF an advantage, but I see more and more ios apps coming to android.
Pass. But if it's good for Sprint and not bad for their network, hope people are happy. An iPhone right now would actually be a big step down from my Epic, for all kinds of reasons. Android forever (translated from Geek: for the foreseeable future until they **** us folks ;-) ).
Its way to early to tell if this is a bad thing(maybe not, since they're raising prices allready) but I really hope its not and it gets sprint some needed leaverage.
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Pass. But if it's good for Sprint and not bad for their network, hope people are happy. An iPhone right now would actually be a big step down from my Epic, for all kinds of reasons.
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Very nicely put. I fully agree.
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You know what would be VERY cool? An iPhone5 running Android. Its undoubtedly going to be miles ahead of Android phones with regards to hardware, as the new iPad's are every time one is released. Getting Android on one would be amazing, but probably impossible.
iSaint said:
Im happy because now most of the average phone users will go over to the iPhone and our android forums wont be cluttered up as much ... i hope....
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LOL +1
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muyoso said:
You know what would be VERY cool? An iPhone5 running Android. Its undoubtedly going to be miles ahead of Android phones with regards to hardware, as the new iPad's are every time one is released. Getting Android on one would be amazing, but probably impossible.
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I have casually tried both iPhone 4 and iPads and never received the impression that they were better spec-ed than the latest Android or even Windows equivalents. Now that Apple is at war with basically anyone who isn't them in tech world, I think they will consistently lose any raw horsepower race (Samsung may not want to sell to them anymore for one). Maybe they will retain an edge in usability for some people, but they are the design kings, as long as you don't despise iTunes like I do, and price gouging.
I'm jumping with my wife. I started on AT&T and iPhone then moved to sprint because cost of the plan. I've seen both sides and so far you can't beat the stability and battery if your willing to drink Steves koolaid!
Looks like I finally made up my mind about what my next phone is going to be. Iphone 5 is it. I was gonna get the Epic Touch but quickly remembered the fact that my phone is on 2.2.1 in an era where Android is at 2.3.6, and how frustrating the Gingerbread leaks have been so far. Not to forget the fact that Samsung doesn't even have the courtesy to share their source code or drivers so that we can create our own up to date roms. I'm never dealing with Samsung again. It's been a nightmare.
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kaotikevo said:
Looks like I finally made up my mind about what my next phone is going to be. Iphone 5 is it. I was gonna get the Epic Touch but quickly remembered the fact that my phone is on 2.2.1 in an era where Android is at 2.3.6, and how frustrating the Gingerbread leaks have been so far. Not to forget the fact that Samsung doesn't even have the courtesy to share their source code or drivers so that we can create our own up to date roms. I'm never dealing with Samsung again. It's been a nightmare.
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Yeah, Samsung leaves a bad taste in your mouth about updates.
kaotikevo said:
Looks like I finally made up my mind about what my next phone is going to be. Iphone 5 is it. I was gonna get the Epic Touch but quickly remembered the fact that my phone is on 2.2.1 in an era where Android is at 2.3.6, and how frustrating the Gingerbread leaks have been so far. Not to forget the fact that Samsung doesn't even have the courtesy to share their source code or drivers so that we can create our own up to date roms. I'm never dealing with Samsung again. It's been a nightmare.
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As oppsed to how open apple is with their source code and drivers???
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austin420 said:
As oppsed to how open apple is with their source code and drivers???
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As opposed to how up to date Apple keeps their phones. With Apple you don't even have to worry about late updates. Ios frees you from that hassle. You have great, fast, stable, low latency audio software, and you can jailbreak your phone and customize it as much as Android in terms of appearance and functionality. Plus you have much more games and apps. Can't lose.
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I'm just going to leave this here..

http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/sho...=true&INTCID=AB:UEC:HERO:070112:GSIII:960x320
Looks great besides this first comment on the website.
"My only problems are: very very poor reception, it is constantly on roaming. I am not sure if this is a Sprint problem or the phone."
Good Specs on the Device. Although I'd never own one. I'm an HTC Fanboy.
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Good Specs on the Device. Although I'd never own one. I'm an HTC Fanboy.
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Yeah I might get one either that or the Galaxy Nexus. We know your a Sense Fanboy lol. A lot of other users on here are too even tho they'll never admit it. I'm more of a AOSP Fanboy just because of functionality. If you like Sense go with the Evo LTE like drob311 did. I'm sure it'll get plenty of Sense roms and hardly any AOSP roms.
Always have been. Has a lot to do with the TP2 days. I've run just about every kind of ROM since starting to mess with Android. But came to the conclusion that I just like Sense Best.
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It can't do what the Shift can..
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It can't do what the Shift can..
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Could you be more specific lol?
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Yeah I might get one either that or the Galaxy Nexus. We know your a Sense Fanboy lol. A lot of other users on here are too even tho they'll never admit it. I'm more of a AOSP Fanboy just because of functionality. If you like Sense go with the Evo LTE like drob311 did. I'm sure it'll get plenty of Sense roms and hardly any AOSP roms.
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I hate sense for the most part, but love htc phones lol
Samsung phones feel extremely cheap to me.
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I hate sense for the most part, but love htc phones lol
Samsung phones feel extremely cheap to me.
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Considering HTC makes pretty much all of their phones with Sense you don't see that as a issue? I've gone through 3 shifts now so what makes HTC phones that much better? They feel well built but crap out and break down easily. Doesn't live up to the quality I expected from HTC...
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Considering HTC makes pretty much all of their phones with Sense you don't see that as a issue? I've gone through 3 shifts now so what makes HTC phones that much better? They feel well built but crap out and break down easily. Doesn't live up to the quality I expected from HTC...
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Go get a Samsung and experience the radios crashing, and you will realize HTC is the way to go... Even the almighty galaxy nexus had the loss of service bug, due to the radios crashing, and I forgot to mention the random airplane mode bug... Sprint and sammy have screwed up every phone that's been released by sprint, not just the moment, but EVERY Samsung device. It's very pathetic... I'll personally be sticking with HTC...
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Go get a Samsung and experience the radios crashing, and you will realize HTC is the way to go... Even the almighty galaxy nexus had the loss of service bug, due to the radios crashing, and I forgot to mention the random airplane mode bug... Sprint and sammy have screwed up every phone that's been released by sprint, not just the moment, but EVERY Samsung device. It's very pathetic... I'll personally be sticking with HTC...
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HTC doesn't make their phone perfect either, isn't that why your on the Evo LTE right now? All brands of phones have their flaws. Look at how nice the samsung screen resolutions are. All I'm saying is don't paint a perfect picture for HTC because it's not all peaches and roses.. Your looking at Samsung from a biased standpoint because of your experiences with the Samsung moment.
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HTC doesn't make their phone perfect either, isn't that why your on the Evo LTE right now? All brands of phones have their flaws. Look at how nice the samsung screen resolutions are. All I'm saying is don't paint a perfect picture for HTC because it's not all peaches and roses.. Your looking at Samsung from a biased standpoint because of your experiences with the Samsung moment.
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Say what you will, but HTC phones don't drop signal like sammys (requiring a battery pull)... You should get a Sammy, you would fit right in with that crowd... And also, I had many moments, a few intercepts and I have family members with epic touch, sg3, nexus s 4g and the g nexus... All of them have serious complaints, the main one being loss of signal and the airplane mode bug... Imagine this... You are on a road trip with your kids, you get in an accident, you go to call 911 because someone needs medical attention, you realize that your phone has no signal and the battery needs to be pulled. While you are pulling the battery, the person who needs medical attention could die in the 2 plus minutes it takes for an unrooted phone to boot... All phones have their flaws, keyboard phones even more so... Like I said, upgrade to a crapsung, you will love the pure crap for a product that you were sold... Sorry, but if you ask anyone that's owned a Sammy and an HTC, almost all of them will say that HTC makes much more reliable phones... And stop talking about me being a sense guy... I run ALL the Roms that are released, sense or aosp, doesn't matter to me...
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Imagine this... You are on a road trip with your kids, you get in an accident, you go to call 911 because someone needs medical attention, you realize that your phone has no signal and the battery needs to be pulled. While you are pulling the battery, the person who needs medical attention could die in the 2 plus minutes it takes for an unrooted phone to boot...
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Lol nice story bro, but I have to go to bed now so story time is over
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Lol nice story bro, but I have to go to bed now so story time is over
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Normally I would argue, but, it sounds like you are thinking about getting a Sammy, which means you won't be around the shift forums anymore... Samsung makes the best phones ever, I highly recommend them...
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Normally I would argue, but, it sounds like you are thinking about getting a Sammy, which means you won't be around the shift forums anymore... Samsung makes the best phones ever, I highly recommend them...
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trollolol
:2cents: they both suck, lets make our own phone.
drob311 said:
Normally I would argue, but, it sounds like you are thinking about getting a Sammy, which means you won't be around the shift forums anymore... Samsung makes the best phones ever, I highly recommend them...
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Why would getting a new phone mean not being here for your bedtime stories? Have another? You might just put me to sleep this time.. Just for that I'm getting a Evo LTE
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Why would getting a new phone mean not being here for your bedtime stories? Have another? Just for that I'm getting a Evo LTE
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Get an lte... Better find a new android forum, your arrogant bull**** attitude won't fly in the lte forums
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drob311 said:
Get an lte... Better find a new android forum, your arrogant bull**** attitude won't fly in the lte forums
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Thanks but I can get whatever phone I want and post on any forum I wish to
Don't need your or anyone else's approval for that.
I think you 2 need to hug it out.. or just **** already.

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