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Hi all, my name is jazux and I'm thinking of buying archos 70 IT. Now I got few questions 1. Is there android 2.3 uptade for A70IT? 2. Can this tablet dualboot (like hd2 can)? 3. When you play games like angry birds, raging thunder 2 and Dillo hills does it lag even a little bit? 4. Does the device break easily? 5. Is a70IT going to get any more android uptades? 6. How do you flash ROMs on this tablet? Odin, uptade.zip 7. Should I by a70 or a101? Thanx in advance
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jazux said:
1. Is there android 2.3 uptade for A70IT?
2. Can this tablet dualboot (like hd2 can)?
3. When you play games like angry birds, raging thunder 2 and Dillo hills does it lag even a little bit?
4. Does the device break easily?
5. Is a70IT going to get any more android uptades?
6. How do you flash ROMs on this tablet? Odin, uptade.zip
7. Should I by a70 or a101? Thanx in advance
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1. Yes
2. Sry I don't know
3. No, just if in the background are many other programms
4. Normally not
5. Yes
6. Sry, I don't know
7. In my oppinion you should buy the a101 it's better
If i could help yiu dont forget the thanks button ;-)

jazux said:
2. Can this tablet dualboot
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Ok i rode that it cant, if im wrong correct me pls

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ArchosRocker said:
1. Yes
2. Sry I don't know
3. No, just if in the background are many other programms
4. Normally not
5. Yes
6. Sry, I don't know
7. In my oppinion you should buy the a101 it's better
If i could help yiu dont forget the thanks button ;-)
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Ok so when you say there will be future android uptades is this going to get 2.4, 3.0 or 2.3.3 uptade and where is this information from? Also why is 101 better? I fought they had identical specs (except screen)
Oh and this tablet has dedicated GPU?
Btw, can't thank you because I'm on my phone
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jazux said:
Ok so when you say there will be future android uptades is this going to get 2.4, 3.0 or 2.3.3 uptade and where is this information from?
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I found a thread on Archosfans.com ,if you are not sure ... google is your best friend
jazux said:
Also why is 101 better? I thought they had identical specs (except screen)
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There are not much differences with A70 and A101, but the A101 has more fixes than the A70 (i think i rode) because its a "newer" version off the A70.
jazux said:
Oh and this tablet has dedicated GPU?
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I don't really know but u can ask my friend @Lennb he will give u an good answer i think ^.^
jazux said:
Btw, can't thank you because I'm on my phone
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Me too

ArchosRocker said:
I found a thread on Archosfans.com ,if you are not sure ... google is your best friend
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This is just a rumors thread Offical there won't be updates to Android Versione over 2.2.
But i think there will be urukdroid versions with 2.4 or 3.1 And maybe we're getting cyanogen to run (search here on xda)
There are not much differences with A70 and A101, but the A101 has more fixes than the A70 (i think i rode) because its a "newer" version off the A70.
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Nope, wrong information Its completly the same (except of screen and full-size usb host)
I don't really know but u can ask my friend @Lennb he will give u an good answer i think ^.^
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Here i am
To Gpu:
Its not the best but not bad! I play this games: Shift/GunBros/Settlers HD without any lags
You can look at my Poll thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042249
Peoples wrote here why they bought an Archos Tablet.
This should help you
You can post you questions to me here, but i'll response them at first on sunday, i go away over weekend

I purchased and Archos 7 for my son this past Christmas and I really considered it a great purchase until.... We bought a Nook Color a couple of months ago. Much larger developer support network. Cyanogen 7 runs great on the Nook Color. Nook Color feels more substantially constructed than the Archos. Cost is almost identical, we picked ours up for $200 from the BN EBay store when they had a big push a couple of months ago.

i'd suggest getting a nook color instead. it's sturdier, better screen and cheaper. lots of active dev going on with it too.
the archos shines in the multimedia playback dpt though. it'll play all kinds of files and has very good sound quality. however, it's screen isn't very good - the 101 is even worse, almost as bad as the gtablet's screen.
the 70 i had and the 101 i have lock up a lot when doing more than 1 thing or trying to do things too fast, like multitab browsing. the 256MB of RAM limits your performance. the nook has 512.
so it all depends on what you want. a 7" tablet, go for the nook color (or galaxy tab wifi - it's hardware is the same as the nook's, the 3g has better hardware). for a multimedia powerhouse, the archos is better; the galaxy tab is almost as good.

I want to use my tablet mostly for gaming, i mean like games that requires high end devices and music and a little movies maybe, but nook has only 800mzh cpu... so is it good to play games?
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And if i decide to buy archos i will make my own custom ROM based on android 2.2 would people like that or does everyone use urukdroid?
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I just sold my archos 101, I highly reccommend you to not get the archos..altough games were "payable" it had some issues and lags
get a honeycomb tablet, the most inexpensive (and hard to find) is the asus transformer..which is only US $400

I use urukdroid atm because its the best and i test things with lenn for $auron , but if honeycomb for android is coming i take it then (i think) ;-)

This was a very good tablet for its price 6 months ago. It is now still good, but if you can get the transformer with Honeycomb with only 100 $ more... just do it.
In any case I have a very good experience with the 101. It does sometimes have some lag, but I wouldn't say that the device is overall slow, it's just OK. Raging Thunder is perfect. Most games I have tried also run smooth (except Fruit Ninja which lags), but I don't really use many resource hungry games.
Having more ROMs developed is always good in any case.
Let me repeat it: the 101 is indeed a good tablet, whith lots of interesting features (full size USB, HDMI, and the kickstand!!!!), but getting a for 100 $ more is probably worth the price difference (unless I am missing some lacks of the transformer).
Be careful that the build quality of the 101 is also not fantastic. It's not really bad and I have no problems at all with mine, but it's mostly made up with plastic, not metal, I am quite sure that it would break if it fell even from relatively low heights. The screen also breaks easily, using a hard case is recommended. Also, the viewing angles of the screen are quite bad, but you will get used to this.

Noobs questions..( not so noob really!)

hi all,
although i am not a noob to android, custom ROMS etc i am a noob to the eee pad transformer.
i have a few basic questions, which am sure more experienced people can anser in a jiffy:
1) whats the best root method for an up to date device? ie latest version of honeycomb and latest dock firmware. having scanned the forums i see a number of options, razorclaw looks the easiest to me, does anyone think not?
2) whats the best rom in terms of battery life and customability ( yes i am a customise freak!!). i.e i will want to OC and customise the innards out of it.. revolution rom seems to hit the spot so far, any other suggestions?
3) does anyone know if juice defender works on the eee pad? or is it better to use the airplane toggle app instead ( makes sense due to the lack of a 3G radio).
4) are there any kitchens to create my own custom rom?( long shot i know?!)
5) whats your favourite type of cheese? mine is a good strong, hard cheddar.
that is all.
many thanks

1. Razorclaw! its easy just run apk and actually your only option as the other methods do not work on latest updates.
2. I have only tried revolver. I liked so much did not bother flashing anything else. Compared to stock which i only ran for a day it seemed much smoother and battery is great.
3. I do not think you will need either.
4. ?? there may be something out there u can use.
5. Cheddar!

87Octane said:
1. Razorclaw! its easy just run apk and actually your only option as the other methods do not work on latest updates.
2. I have only tried revolver. I liked so much did not bother flashing anything else. Compared to stock which i only ran for a day it seemed much smoother and battery is great.
3. I do not think you will need either.
4. ?? there may be something out there u can use.
5. Cheddar!
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cheers! a fellow cheddar fan!
i see that with the revolution rom the dev has pointed out that his framework res can be used in the UOT kitchen, i have asked him for more details on this.
thanks for the quick response!

bob dylan said:
hi all,
although i am not a noob to android, custom ROMS etc i am a noob to the eee pad transformer.
i have a few basic questions, which am sure more experienced people can anser in a jiffy:
1) whats the best root method for an up to date device? ie latest version of honeycomb and latest dock firmware. having scanned the forums i see a number of options, razorclaw looks the easiest to me, does anyone think not?
2) whats the best rom in terms of battery life and customability ( yes i am a customise freak!!). i.e i will want to OC and customise the innards out of it.. revolution rom seems to hit the spot so far, any other suggestions?
3) does anyone know if juice defender works on the eee pad? or is it better to use the airplane toggle app instead ( makes sense due to the lack of a 3G radio).
4) are there any kitchens to create my own custom rom?( long shot i know?!)
5) whats your favourite type of cheese? mine is a good strong, hard cheddar.
that is all.
many thanks
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1.) Razorclaw, one click, done. So easy you will doubt at first you are rooted. (I did)
2.) Revolver with revolver parts... Nothing else like it.
3.) I use juice defender on my phone but found it useless on the transformer. The OS has the ability built in to auto disable wifi when the screen is off and that is all juice defender would do.
4.) Yes, and good luck!
5.) Sharp cheddar!
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ShortRound51 said:
1.) Razorclaw, one click, done. So easy you will doubt at first you are rooted. (I did)
2.) Revolver with revolver parts... Nothing else like it.
3.) I use juice defender on my phone but found it useless on the transformer. The OS has the ability built in to auto disable wifi when the screen is off and that is all juice defender would do.
4.) Yes, and good luck!
5.) Sharp cheddar!
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cool cheers!!
thats 3 hardcore cheedar fans now.
get in!
once i have rooted i will have a test of revolver first i think, seems to have the most customisable options so far.

Can someone clarify what's the deal with recovery on newer devices?
From what I can gather, if a device is B70 or newer, root and CWM can be installed easily, but NVflash will not work, so if the device gets bricked, or you need to claim it on warranty, there is no way to flash back to total stock including recovery?
Is this correct?

bob dylan said:
hi all,
although i am not a noob to android, custom ROMS etc i am a noob to the eee pad transformer.
i have a few basic questions, which am sure more experienced people can anser in a jiffy:
1) whats the best root method for an up to date device? ie latest version of honeycomb and latest dock firmware. having scanned the forums i see a number of options, razorclaw looks the easiest to me, does anyone think not?
2) whats the best rom in terms of battery life and customability ( yes i am a customise freak!!). i.e i will want to OC and customise the innards out of it.. revolution rom seems to hit the spot so far, any other suggestions?
3) does anyone know if juice defender works on the eee pad? or is it better to use the airplane toggle app instead ( makes sense due to the lack of a 3G radio).
4) are there any kitchens to create my own custom rom?( long shot i know?!)
5) whats your favourite type of cheese? mine is a good strong, hard cheddar.
that is all.
many thanks
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1. Razorclaw I think is the only one for newer like the B90 and everything.
2. I've tried Revolution and no offensive to revolution users I just found it a bit boring. I loved the browser that came with it and it was faster but there was little customization. I was originally hesitant to go with Revolver because I don't like the Xoom buttons and layout, but you can easily get the Asus Stock buttons and apps back. I am using ICS theme and I love it! I love how it even has the user agent option. It did not have that on stock. I noticed this the other night too but even when I do multitasking there is a little red X to close the window. I don't think that was there on stock. The opening animation is awesome too.
3. No idea what that is. I thought that android was really smart with the usage and multitasking and something about having 12 partitions. Sorry can't help ya there.
4. Isn't there a Chef ROM thing somewhere on the main forum sections? Never been in there but it says it's the best place to learn.
5. It used to be cheddar but I really love swiss now.

jtc42 said:
Can someone clarify what's the deal with recovery on newer devices?
From what I can gather, if a device is B70 or newer, root and CWM can be installed easily, but NVflash will not work, so if the device gets bricked, or you need to claim it on warranty, there is no way to flash back to total stock including recovery?
Is this correct?
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I would like to know this as well is there any way to fully return to stock if I were to return this when the prime is released?
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bob dylan said:
hi all,
although i am not a noob to android, custom ROMS etc i am a noob to the eee pad transformer.
i have a few basic questions, which am sure more experienced people can anser in a jiffy:
1) whats the best root method for an up to date device? ie latest version of honeycomb and latest dock firmware. having scanned the forums i see a number of options, razorclaw looks the easiest to me, does anyone think not?
2) whats the best rom in terms of battery life and customability ( yes i am a customise freak!!). i.e i will want to OC and customise the innards out of it.. revolution rom seems to hit the spot so far, any other suggestions?
3) does anyone know if juice defender works on the eee pad? or is it better to use the airplane toggle app instead ( makes sense due to the lack of a 3G radio).
4) are there any kitchens to create my own custom rom?( long shot i know?!)
5) whats your favourite type of cheese? mine is a good strong, hard cheddar.
that is all.
many thanks
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Feta Q.2. Revolver is by farrrr the best in my opinion. Great on battery, has many custom option if down load free revolver parts from the market.
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maxvsmith said:
1. Razorclaw I think is the only one for newer like the B90 and everything.
2. I've tried Revolution and no offensive to revolution users I just found it a bit boring. I loved the browser that came with it and it was faster but there was little customization. I was originally hesitant to go with Revolver because I don't like the Xoom buttons and layout, but you can easily get the Asus Stock buttons and apps back. I am using ICS theme and I love it! I love how it even has the user agent option. It did not have that on stock. I noticed this the other night too but even when I do multitasking there is a little red X to close the window. I don't think that was there on stock. The opening animation is awesome too.
3. No idea what that is. I thought that android was really smart with the usage and multitasking and something about having 12 partitions. Sorry can't help ya there.
4. Isn't there a Chef ROM thing somewhere on the main forum sections? Never been in there but it says it's the best place to learn.
5. It used to be cheddar but I really love swiss now.
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Did you try 'revolver parts' from the market? A free load of kernals, themes and many, many other options. All built be the same chap that built the revolver rom, by the way, he is only a young kid still at school. Respect to him

Am all rooted and suited now.razorclaw and on revolver rom. Am going to try the UOT kitchen and see if I can cook up some more mods for revolver.
Sent from my mind to yours using only the power of suggestion.

You an change the style of the buttons with revolver parts....

[Q] what is the best rom fot the GN GT-N7000 and why?

First of all, this thread is intended to compare people`s opinions only, pls keep the critic levels down please as people work very hard to make us have this freedom of changing roms in our devices
I`ve fot my GN few weeks ago and in this time I could test some different Roms, including tw based ones, some of them are good and stable, but there was always some detail I didn’t like (even some icon, im very picky for this), im a fan of simply and functional though, so in my opinion the winner till now according to my experience is cm9 nightly, below im explaining why:
1- The whole system has 163 megas agains almost 1 g from many others
2- The appearance is awesome, extremely similar to Nexus UI
3- It runs smoothly, fast and is pretty customizable
4- All my apps from the past TW roms works, i`ve just went to my google play account, checked my apps, swiped to the left, saw all my previous apps and installed them again without any FC till now (4 days already running cm9, installing new apps everyday and nothing)
5- Google maps and navigation working fine for me (even my external gps sygic working)
6- The music equalizer is awesome and functional.
7- No need to root, u can change any settings on the phone easily (don t recommend it if you are beginner though)
8- The Motorola atrix tv out effect when locking the screen is really cute, also the lockscreen is more functional than the TW one.
9- The battery life is really comparable to the GB, I went home yesterday with 79%, played till 12 am with the phone and came back to work today still reading my news on it with 8% juice. It started to charge today around 9 am on the usb and in 3 hours it has 55 % (phone on and wifi syncronizyng everything)
10- Camera works really fine
Cons:
1 fm radio doesn’t work ,so what? With 5 bucks u buy an mp3 player with fm radio and saves the battery from your phone, smartphones are not still made to listen to music on them.
2 loud speaker bit broken, so what? My phone conversations are private anyway, the normal mic works fine and I don’t have a car, if yes, I would go for a Bluetooth car device. However, it works on skype calls, im a foreigner living in Europe and my family is in brazil, do u think I would call them out of skype? So, perfect for me.
3 no touchwiz, thank god? S pen doestn work, but u can write notes if u want in any other note app, I personally always write my notes using the speaker writer or the keyboard as my calligraphy is horrible and I don’t draw, so what?
Not ota updates…hmmm, fine though
what about you?

short answer: CM9 because.. it's CM9

Add to the cons:
No MHL output support
Limited USB OTG support
Limited HD video playback support
No S-Pen framework. (S-Pen pressure sensitivity goes away, button on the pen doen't work, and no S-Pen gestures)
I am currently on LPY, using Apex launcher. It's not the best experience to be sure, however, at least everything works. I'm really interested in giving the Paranoid Android hybrid ROM a whirl, but seeing as it is based on CM9, I'm assuming it still has the same bug list.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE AOSP/AOKP/Hybrid builds, but I don't think I'll be using any of them as a daily driver until almost everything is working, or at least the important stuff. For me, on the Note, in order of importance, I would say my priority list would go something like this:
S-Pen framework stuff
Full hardware accelerated HD video playback (incl. 1080p)
USB OTG
MHL output
I really hope that devs are able to make this happen!

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u got a point there for sure depending what a daily driver means for you, in my case even 5,3" inches is too small to watch videos how much minutes it takes for your battery to die watching hd videos with lpy? or seconds?
I was between go back to some stock rooted GB because of the battery but decided to give it a try to cm and im enjoying, there is also this bricking witch problem with the lpy, so i prefer to wait till i get smth safe or stick to cm9, at least is safe.

dtorga said:
u got a point there for sure depending what a daily driver means for you, in my case even 5,3" inches is too small to watch videos how much minutes it takes for your battery to die watching hd videos with lpy? or seconds?
I was between go back to some stock rooted GB because of the battery but decided to give it a try to cm and im enjoying, there is also this bricking witch problem with the lpy, so i prefer to wait till i get smth safe or stick to cm9, at least is safe.
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Well i see that you're CM9 fanboy but Jade Eyed is so right in every thing.
If i want to have Vanilla i would buy Nexus (and it was cheeper anyway), i love my Note for every other aspect that Nexus doesn't have!
I love to draw on my Note, i love my big screen where can i watch movies on my night shifts, and i can watch 3 hole 2h movies before my battery die!
I love my OTG and my MHL support my Note has limiltless storage with my 64 GB usb stick in my pocket!
Vanilla Android is faster then Touchwiz?! Says who?! Note will destroy any phone in any benchmark even on GB!
I love my Note because it isn't Nexus. And it isn't like any other phone. And now i'll downgrade him to Vanilla Android to take away half of his functionality and apps?! Tnx but no tnx.

Cm9 nightlies ,reason is speeeeeeeeed and stability ,I've tried official GB and ICS, they were too slow and laggy for me, and kept reminding me of just how much faster my stock GB s2 was compared to the note .
But after cm9 it's safe to say that the note is as fast as an s2 .

ParanoidAndroid is the best! It is a rom that makes our notes big screens most useful (; you all should at least try it!
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Its like asking which girl is the best for you and why?
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Rocket because it a smooth stable experience. CheckRom it's not developing. Using latest kernel. No issues with bricking..... yet.
Itoo want all features working.
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Actually now im on kingdroid v2 and enjoying it,the battery is awesome and everything works fine just changed the modem to lb1 though and r3 kernel,in 4 days not even 1 fc (apart from the s suggest siii that doesnt work in czech republic...any hints to unblock the market?
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[Q] LG G2 (D802) why to buy

Hi there mates, Id like to ask You an advice. Im going to buy a new phone today and I was all in samsungs hype and wanted Galaxy S4 as the price went down since S5 is out. Than I started to read XDA S4 threads and discover this crapy Knox thing. As rooting my device is main priority for me, so I can use my device for a specific tasks only rooted apps provide and want to be able to modify the ROMs, with Knox S4 seems to be very limited for this. I really dont care about voiding warranty, but Knox seems to be causeing a lot of faults anyway and will be improved in next android updates with Knox 2.0. So S4 is no go for me. Than I started looking for other brands and ended up with LG G2. The price is to the cent Same as S4. Hardware seems to me bit better. I really like display of G2 and the overall look, compare to cheap plastics used with S4. Also like buttons on the Back. I tried to read a lot and watched some vids of G2 on youtube, but still have few uestions.
1. Im for 32 Gb G2, haveing no slot for aditional memory Id like to know if G2 can do USB OTG, and if so can I also use classic big PC HDD?
2. Can i get rid of navbar? as Im useing IMD Gestures I Dont want navbar to take display space.
3. Rooting G2 seems to be not difficult and problematic with android 4.2.2 on it, the version i want to buy is 4.2.2.
Is that right?
4. As I love my music and have Senheiser ears, Id like to know how It sounds?
5. As comming from samsungs android and seen others and also seen lg one, I really do love its look and clearnes and easy handling. Lgs android seems to have very childish/amateurish look and messy to orient myself in it. Question is are there ROMs or MODs that can change the look and feel a bit closer to samsungs android?
6. Battery seems to be all for G2 am I right? Whatabout gaming, heard it takes a lot of battery?
7. Whatabout the display, any disadvantages?
8. How solid is it Made, can it be easily broken?
9. Anything Else I soud know? Reasons why to buy or look for any other device?
10. Whatabout updating and rooting on Kitkat?
Thanks in advance to all, for help.

Greetings
Well i make it Step by Step i have th G2 32 GB and use it for Everything
1.Yes the G2 Supports Usb OTG and you can use Most of the Usb Sticks and also Hdd's (Ofcourse need the Big Externals theyre Own Powersource and the 2,5" ones maybe an Additional Powered Usb Hub since the G2's Usb Port might not deliver enough Power)
2.Ofcourse but i think thats only possible if you root the Phone and Install the Xposed Framweork + G2tweakbox
3.The Rooting process is indeed Pretty Easy just Follow the Nice Tutorials you can Find in the G2' Forums And 4.2.2 is okay and the 4.4.2 Update is already out too.
4.The Audio Quality is Amazing especially if you give the Audiochip the Support of the Viper 4 Android app
5.There is already a Rom Who gives a Samsung S5 Look but i think its onl for the D802 G2 Variant but there are enough Themes and Mods available to Customize it the Way you like.
6.On Android 4.2.2 the battery Life is Better than on 4.4.2 (But that depends on the usage ofcourse) On Custom Roms with the Right kernel and settings the G2's Performance Range varies but you will figure that out.
7.No Disadvantages the Display is Awesome Colors are not too Saturated (Like on many Oled/Amoled Displays)
8.Thats a thing wich made me Worry a bit,the Backside seems very Scratch Sensitive and without a Case or Bumper it can Slip out of the hand...Atleast thats how it feels like.
9.Ofcourse thats up to you and what you prefer, The G2 doesnt has a Removable battery,No Hardware Homebutton and the Buttons on the Back of the Phone are strange (My opinion) And ofcourse the lack of a Micro-Sd Card slot
10.If you Buy the phone just Update it Via the Update Section in the Settings to get KK directly from LG then you can Root it (Tutorials are available on XDA)
I hope i helped a bit and sry if my English is difficult to Understand

The G2 is still cheap plastic and it's better not going without a case. This thing breaks if it's dropped :cyclops:
1. Im for 32 Gb G2, haveing no slot for aditional memory Id like to know if G2 can do USB OTG, and if so can I also use classic big PC HDD?
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The LG G2 supports USB OTG but whether you can use your PC HDD is something I doubt.
2. Can i get rid of navbar? as Im useing IMD Gestures I Dont want navbar to take display space.
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Yes you can. Either modify build.prop or install G2Tweaksbox. The latter is preffered.
3. Rooting G2 seems to be not difficult and problematic with android 4.2.2 on it, the version i want to buy is 4.2.2.
Is that right?
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Rooting the G2 is easy as eating a pie, even on 4.4.2. Just use IORoot
4. As I love my music and have Senheiser ears, Id like to know how It sounds?
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Sounds great with poweramp, but don't expect good sound from the loudspeaker. It's trash.
5. As comming from samsungs android and seen others and also seen lg one, I really do love its look and clearnes and easy handling. Lgs android seems to have very childish/amateurish look and messy to orient myself in it. Question is are there ROMs or MODs that can change the look and feel a bit closer to samsungs android?
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That's a matter of personal opinion. For me, the Samsung and LG roms look pretty close to eachother. With G2 Tweaksbox you can tweak most of the UI and you can also flash a "flatter" notification panel. There are plenty of mods.
6. Battery seems to be all for G2 am I right? Whatabout gaming, heard it takes a lot of battery?
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Battery is great - well it used to be great prior to 4.4.2. If you wanna flash, I suggest a Cloudy rom from cloudyfa + dorimanx kernel.
Asphalt 8 drains about 10% battery per 15-20minutes of gaming.
7. Whatabout the display, any disadvantages?
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Yeah. It looks so good that it makes you wonder if this is real life?
8. How solid is it Made, can it be easily broken?
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Yup - broken screen = broken digitizer. It feels plasticy all around and doesn't have that solid build. Just slap a case on it,
9. Anything Else I soud know? Reasons why to buy or look for any other device?
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G2 gives most bang for your buck (the OPO does too but it's not avaliable yet) - so no, it's a fine choice but all a matter of personal preference
10. Whatabout updating and rooting on Kitkat?
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You can update it to kitkat and root - no problems.

Thanks for an answers so far guys. So it seems better to stick with Jelly rather than Kit kat due to its performance discutability and battery life. Im I correct?
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0bu said:
Thanks for an answers so far guys. So it seems better to stick with Jelly rather than Kit kat due to its performance discutability and battery life. Im I correct?
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Performance wise, KitKat is a lot better, but the battery is a bit worse. I'm personally on KitKat because speed is more important than 1 hour extra of screen on time. I mean, I'd spend that 1 hr extra SOT watching my phone lag so it breaks even - if you know what I mean

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Performance wise, KitKat is a lot better, but the battery is a bit worse. I'm personally on KitKat because speed is more important than 1 hour extra of screen on time. I mean, I'd spend that 1 hr extra SOT watching my phone lag so it breaks even - if you know what I mean
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I think the battery life of the G2 on kitkat will still kick the S4's butt by a margin. We have been spoiled on jellybean but with kitkat it is still far better than any smart device that I have used.

The battery life still can be improved with a custom kernel like dorimanx. For me the phone is running for 27hrs straight with wifi on all the time, got 2hrs of SOT and yet I still have 83% battery left.
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Okay I hoped for more opinions. But seems to me I made right dicision and can do no wrong going for G2. Anyways they had only 16GB version, so I have to wait few more days till I have my hands on 32GB. Will try gather some more info, bout customs and kernels around here.
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Hi there mates,
so I finally get my LG G2 (d802). I updated to 4.4.2 KK and rooted it with IOroot, it was oh so easy. But than I started to read about custom recoveries and it is oh so mess. I pushed twrp with adb sucesfullyl, but cant reboot into recovery because some boot error and have black screen, when i hold power button i can get in to system normally. I red about autorec, but seems to be buggy and i dont want to loose knock on. Also red about Philz and CWM, but dont want to run into some kind of trouble, so I thougt it would be wise to ask someone more experienced for an advice. Would You please be so kind and give me a helping hand on this topic? Can You recommend me a custom recovery working on 4.4.2 KK without needing to unroot and downgrade and the method to push/flash/install it?
Thanks in advance mates!

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I might switch my SGS4 for a G2... but before I do, some Q's

I'm using a Galaxy S4 (Black Edition, just got it - I really shouldn't) now... been using a white one for almost a year, then decided I should get rid of it and get an all black one, with warranty. I should have tried some other different model instead, I guess...
I might be able to sell it. With nothing else to get at this price point (aside from the Nexus 5, which is a no go due to poor speakers and battery performance and the HTC One which would be a more like a sidegrade if not a downgrade), I've turned my head towards the LG G2.
I know the LG G2 does not have a microSD card slot, and I also know it comes in both 16GB and 32GB flavors.
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So... first batch of questions (I sure will think of more ). Thanks in advance!
1) Is there any difference between the 16GB and 32GB variant, aside from the actual storage? In terms of ROMs and kernels support, I mean. The last thing I want is to buy the 32GB model and realise I can't flash anything on it because all the awesome development (dorimanx? ) is happening on the 16GB model and nothing of that works on the 32GB one
2) How fast did you get used to the physical button layout? I hear once you get used to them, they're freaking awesome.
3) Battery life... is stellar, right (dorimanx awesomeness? )? Like... 6~7+ hours of screen-on time, like I saw reports of in some places?
I can get 4 hours of screen-on time out of my Galaxy S4, maybe 5 at best (with very low screen brightness and little to no gaming, perhaps).

1) Basically just the storage, you can get a small "meenova" stick. Roms are vice - versa
2) Buttons !.. YES ! Knock on / knock off (sweep to sleep-dorimanx) etc etc etc...You'll keep tapping every other device (which hasn't got the knock on/off) and wonder why the heck it isn't implemented into all devices. Also vol up + down - genial..
3) Battery life is very good. Depends on what you're doing.
Since you're switching devices there might be some vice and versa opinions on your behalf. But at the end, the g2 wins.

1) I'm not sure. But I keep up in the development forums and never have I seen a 16gb only version of something vs a 32gb.
2) Very quickly. I love the back buttons, very accessible when needed.
3) superb battery life. I'm running stock with dorimanx kernel and get those kind of numbers with automatic screen brightness, constant Web and app surfing and a little bit of gaming. I do listen to music on mine A LOT (2-3 hours with v4a and neutron) and still get great battery life.
I recommend it, I doubt you'll be disappointed!
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bender_007 said:
1) Basically just the storage, you can get a small "meenova" stick. Roms are vice - versa
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What? I don't get it . So... do all ROMs, kernels etc. work on both the 16GB and 32GB variants?
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2) Buttons !.. YES ! Knock on / knock off (sweep to sleep-dorimanx) etc etc etc...You'll keep tapping every other device (which hasn't got the knock on/off) and wonder why the heck it isn't implemented into all devices. Also vol up + down - genial..
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That's what I hear from everybody, but of course, me, being used to the standard layout (volume rocker on one side, power button on the other), I'm quite skeptical. The button layout is not a problem, though, but I was just curious so I asked :silly:.
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3) Battery life is very good. Depends on what you're doing.
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Well, basically, some Tapatalking, browsing the Internet and playing a game (Castle Clash - yes, it got me addicted, f*** my life) throughout the day, on Wi-Fi or 3G... which usually yields 3h30m of screen-on time with ~1 hour of gameplay. I'm sure the G2 will be able to top that by at least an extra hour, though, at least that's what I make from all battery reports out there :silly:.
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Since you're switching devices there might be some vice and versa opinions on your behalf. But at the end, the g2 wins.
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Yeah... there's always gonna be that awkward feeling I get every time I switch devices. 1) leaving community 2) entering new community 3) getting used to the device 4) missing the old device :silly:
The G2 wins for me because of the expanded storage (32GB vs. only 16GB on the S4 - no more microSD crap, having to deal with two storage devices), better performance and screen (I'm so sick of this AMOLED... even this new one is rubbish, but with AMOLED it's all about luck, as 1 out of 3 devices have weird / uneven colors when it comes to white / gray).

njstein said:
1) I'm not sure. But I keep up in the development forums and never have I seen a 16gb only version of something vs a 32gb.
2) Very quickly. I love the back buttons, very accessible when needed.
3) superb battery life. I'm running stock with dorimanx kernel and get those kind of numbers with automatic screen brightness, constant Web and app surfing and a little bit of gaming. I do listen to music on mine A LOT (2-3 hours with v4a and neutron) and still get great battery life.
I recommend it, I doubt you'll be disappointed!
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I can't get a 16GB variant. No way! 32GB for the win!
Buttons, yeah, nevermind, they're so awesome I shouldn't have brought them up as they're not an issue .
Battery life... just the answer I expected . DorimanX is the best - another reason why I'm switching to this device (kind of late, hope he doesn't buy a new device soon, lol).
I won't be dissapointed by the G2... if I manage to sell the S4 and get a G2 in the condition I want (brand new, with warranty and all that). By the looks of it so far, it appears that in less than 24 hours I could be selling this and buying the G2. Hope that works well...

In general, you just have to match the rom to your variant
d800, d801, d802, d803 etc...
we don't diff 16 vs 32 gig for custom roms.
And I also come from samsung and htc and this knock on, off, back rockers are just perfect..no problems at all getting used to them

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In general, you just have to match the rom to your variant
d800, d801, d802, d803 etc...
we don't diff 16 vs 32 gig for custom roms.
And I also come from samsung and htc and this knock on, off, back rockers are just perfect..no problems at all getting used to them
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How about AOSP based ROMs? Are they working well? And... knock... has that been implemented on anything else except LG ROMs?
I know I could find this info if I searched through the forum but I figure someone who already has the device has already gone through all these and is able to provide an all in one answer, so to say.
RIP English, lol.

They do work pretty good, but the stock ones work so nice.
You've got plenty of roms to try. But you need to read. The g2 is really really brickable.
Someone should write a book: "1001 ways to brick the g2"
knock on works on most aosp roms, knock off works mostly only by tapping the notification bar.

I love SlimKat, so... go go AOSP and sc**w everything else .
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You've got plenty of roms to try. But you need to read. The g2 is really really brickable.
Someone should write a book: "1001 ways to brick the g2"
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Sh*t. Care to elaborate? :losinginterestallthesuddenthisshouldbeanactualemoticon:

Enough to see the q/a thread. If you follow some main guides you are safe. Also people help out a lot so mostly everything is fine.
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Formhault said:
I'm using a Galaxy S4 (Black Edition, just got it - I really shouldn't) now... been using a white one for almost a year, then decided I should get rid of it and get an all black one, with warranty. I should have tried some other different model instead, I guess...
I might be able to sell it. With nothing else to get at this price point (aside from the Nexus 5, which is a no go due to poor speakers and battery performance and the HTC One which would be a more like a sidegrade if not a downgrade), I've turned my head towards the LG G2.
I know the LG G2 does not have a microSD card slot, and I also know it comes in both 16GB and 32GB flavors.
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So... first batch of questions (I sure will think of more ). Thanks in advance!
1) Is there any difference between the 16GB and 32GB variant, aside from the actual storage? In terms of ROMs and kernels support, I mean. The last thing I want is to buy the 32GB model and realise I can't flash anything on it because all the awesome development (dorimanx? ) is happening on the 16GB model and nothing of that works on the 32GB one
2) How fast did you get used to the physical button layout? I hear once you get used to them, they're freaking awesome.
3) Battery life... is stellar, right (dorimanx awesomeness? )? Like... 6~7+ hours of screen-on time, like I saw reports of in some places?
I can get 4 hours of screen-on time out of my Galaxy S4, maybe 5 at best (with very low screen brightness and little to no gaming, perhaps).
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Which carrier are you using? I have tmo and came from Verizon s4 and have no regrets...the stock ui is very much like aosp/vanilla and is very fluid...love the aosp ROMs as well...battery life is amazing on Mahdi ROM...13 hours on battery today and still at 91% with some calls and texts as well as browsing xda forums on my breaks at work...switching from s4 you won't have any regrets

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Which carrier are you using? I have tmo and came from Verizon s4 and have no regrets...the stock ui is very much like aosp/vanilla and is very fluid...love the aosp ROMs as well...battery life is amazing on Mahdi ROM...13 hours on battery today and still at 91% with some calls and texts as well as browsing xda forums on my breaks at work...switching from s4 you won't have any regrets
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I'm on Cosmote (Romania). Irrelevant, though.
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Enough to see the q/a thread. If you follow some main guides you are safe. Also people help out a lot so mostly everything is fine.
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You know Odin? Is there such a tool for LG? Guess not, huh? :laugh:

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I'm on Cosmote (Romania). Irrelevant, though.
You know Odin? Is there such a tool for LG? Guess not, huh? :laugh:
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There are a couple tools similar to Odin to flash back to stock which will fix most major issues...but there are also a lot of great ops to fix other issues

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There are a couple tools similar to Odin to flash back to stock which will fix most major issues...but there are also a lot of great ops to fix other issues
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So... the G2 is very easily brickable... That's a bummer. How about revivability?

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So... the G2 is very easily brickable... That's a bummer. How about revivability?
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I have had mine about a month and am a flashaholic...not once have I bricked my device...its the people who aren't reading everything before flashing that are having issues...and I haven't heard of a large amount of permabricks so I should say so...I had more issues on my s4 learning than on g2

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I have had mine about a month and am a flashaholic...not once have I bricked my device...its the people who aren't reading everything before flashing that are having issues...and I haven't heard of a large amount of permabricks so I should say so...I had more issues on my s4 learning than on g2
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I did my S4 in like 5 minutes. Flash PhilZ recovery in Odin, boot up recovery, full wipe, flash ROM . Piece of cake. The S4 is not really brickable, by the way. Unless you flash a wrong bootloader, I guess...

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I did my S4 in like 5 minutes. Flash PhilZ recovery in Odin, boot up recovery, full wipe, flash ROM . Piece of cake. The S4 is not really brickable, by the way. Unless you flash a wrong bootloader, I guess...
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Not the case with the Verizon s4...it was a nightmare...but nonetheless I will never buy a Samsung device again due to my experience... After buying my g2 though I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick to lg

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Not the case with the Verizon s4...it was a nightmare...but nonetheless I will never buy a Samsung device again due to my experience... After buying my g2 though I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick to lg
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Yeah, lucky I don't have to meddle with locked bootloaders, hehe.
How fast and easy was to get G2 going with unlocking the bootloader and throwing a custom ROM on it?

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Yeah, lucky I don't have to meddle with locked bootloaders, hehe.
How fast and easy was to get G2 going with unlocking the bootloader and throwing a custom ROM on it?
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When I got mine it required a bit more...but now you can 1 click root with towelroot and install recovery with autorec...after that you just read up before installing anything and flash away

I got my G2 about 3 weeks ago and love it. I previously had an Amaze 4G and prior to that an HD2. There are no comparisons between the devices. I happened into it by chance. My Amaze was stolen and I needed a replacement with a good camera for work quickly. I went into the T-Mobile store intending to buy a Nexus 5, but the G2 was on sale for the same price. After comparing the specs, it was a no brainer decision.
I'm currently running the stock Kit Kat ROM and kernel (rooted and debloated) and find the native OS to be the most pleasing manufacturer's UI I've used to date. Very close to AOSP and only a fraction of the crapware found on other UIs. This is the first handset I've owned where I didn't want to immediately remove the stock ROM because it's so well integrated. Whatever features that LG didn't include that I wanted are easily installed with Xposed and appropriate modules. All in all the G2 is probably the best bang for the buck (value for your money) on the market.
Good luck