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I've read that 1 of the 2gb of RAM is used for the touchwiz so you effectively only have 1gb. If you install a custom rom, ie. cyanogenmod, do you get to use the full 2gb then?
Filiusincendia said:
I've read that 1 of the 2gb of RAM is used for the touchwiz so you effectively only have 1gb. If you install a custom rom, ie. cyanogenmod, do you get to use the full 2gb then?
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Pretty sure its ICS that takes up the space and its not a full GB. I don't have the phone but a friend has around 1.6 - 1.7 Gigs free at max.
I don't think that would work out, considering the international GS3 has 1GB of RAM and runs TouchWiz.
So much confusion, let's spell this out. First of all our phones have 2gb ram, period. The GPU requires about 0.38gb of the system's 2gb because it doesn't have its own onboard memory. So no matter what software you run, you'll be starting out around 1.62 available.
Different operating systems, frameworks, skins, and applications will have different memory footprints. Touchwiz is probably a bit heavier than AOSP (CM/AOKP), so after a clean boot you'll probably have more free ram running an AOSP variant.
Honestly its all kind of moot at this point however, because I doubt in either situation most people get anywhere near using the all remaining RAM with current ROM offerings. Key lime pie may be another story.
Yeah to his point about not using the RAM is just stupid, unused ram is wasted ram meaning you have it for nothing, for example on stock cm9 you got 1.2 gb free most of the time, 500-600mb free, touchwiz manage ram better but still leaves a lot behind, look up what ram does and you will understand why unused ram is useless
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jgalan14 said:
Yeah to his point about not using the RAM is just stupid, unused ram is wasted ram meaning you have it for nothing, for example on stock cm9 you got 1.2 gb free most of the time, 500-600mb free, touchwiz manage ram better but still leaves a lot behind, look up what ram does and you will understand why unused ram is useless
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Isn't it ideal to have unused RAM so that when you open apps and multitask, you the memory to keep them alive? Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but if we never had unused Ram then we would never be able to multitask, right?
Spartoi said:
Isn't it ideal to have unused RAM so that when you open apps and multitask, you the memory to keep them alive? Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but if we never had unused Ram then we would never be able to multitask, right?
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To a certain extent, I for one think there's no reason to try and utilize all of it for nothing. And it's pointless to complain about having extra
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This is quote from something I read in pc mag
" This has to do with extremes. Remember that every so many cycles (don't remember on current ram), your memory has to completely refresh its contents. If you have an extra 16GB that you never use, then you waste time refreshing all of that ram. Also on this note, higher densities, and larger quantities are harder on your controller. For maximum speed and stability, use ram appropriate for your usage pattern"
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jgalan14 said:
This is quote from something I read in pc mag
" This has to do with extremes. Remember that every so many cycles (don't remember on current ram), your memory has to completely refresh its contents. If you have an extra 16GB that you never use, then you waste time refreshing all of that ram. Also on this note, higher densities, and larger quantities are harder on your controller. For maximum speed and stability, use ram appropriate for your usage pattern"
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While that is true, ram come in discrete chunks and 2 gb is noticeably better than 1. At a certain threshold the memory manager kills off old apps to free up ram. More ram means more recently used apps remain loaded and available sooner plus i have no issues with many pages open in a browser. I typically run with around 600 mb free. Only my dell streak i would often be under 100 and unless i manually closed apps it really bogged down.
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1gb of ram is not for TW and the rest for apps....its 2gb total...in reality like 15mb total
I've heard that Android 4.4 reduced its memory usage.
But after I updated 4.4 on my Nexus 10, I found that the total and free RAM space is even decreased compared to when it was 4.3.
Now my Nexus 10 shows only 1.1GB of total RAM. I remember it was a little larger when it was 4.3 (like 1.3GB?)
As you know, Nexus 10 is a device with 2GB of RAM. And now we can only see half of the RAM available? I think it's funny.
osikiri said:
I've heard that Android 4.4 reduced its memory usage.
But after I updated 4.4 on my Nexus 10, I found that the total and free RAM space is even decreased compared to when it was 4.3.
Now my Nexus 10 shows only 1.1GB of total RAM. I remember it was a little larger when it was 4.3 (like 1.3GB?)
As you know, Nexus 10 is a device with 2GB of RAM. And now we can only see half of the RAM available? I think it's funny.
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More RAM is allocated to the GPU. Allows better performance, but slightly reduced multi tasking capabilities.
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It's at 1.1 gb since latest jellybean update
osikiri said:
I've heard that Android 4.4 reduced its memory usage.
But after I updated 4.4 on my Nexus 10, I found that the total and free RAM space is even decreased compared to when it was 4.3.
Now my Nexus 10 shows only 1.1GB of total RAM. I remember it was a little larger when it was 4.3 (like 1.3GB?)
As you know, Nexus 10 is a device with 2GB of RAM. And now we can only see half of the RAM available? I think it's funny.
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In Android 4.3 the RAM was 1.08 gb and now as you said it is 1.1 gb so you have gained, 0.02 gb.
Hi guys.
I've been quite bothered by the fact that 4gb ram phones coming up, so I decided that I would do a test on how my LG phone handles the ram. I hope some experienced android users can clarify this for me because the only other android device I've had is a android tablet which I've played quite a bit with on my own.
I thought I wanted to do a stress test to see of the device would lag after having used all available ram. Problem is just I wasn't able to use all ram even with over a dozen open apps and so on. While I now have clarified that more than 2gb of ram really isn't needed ATM I would really love an explanation of why I wasn't able to get below 400 Mb free ram. When using the device normally I occasionally see only 300 Mb of free ram. Anyway the device was still working smoothly without lags and stutter
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just the way android ram works really. Its different then windows, where no free ram means performance issues. Like no free disk space on Iphones.
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Hello ,i have g pad v500 ..I want ask about ram. Factory give this tablet 2mb ram. When i go settings i see free memory about 950mb ram..How can free some memory? Sorry for my english is not good..
thanks
I don't understand your question.
Using ram is good, because it's used, and free ram is doing nothing.
If you go to the task manager settings you can set "auto clear Ram" to every hour.
Manually closing apps clears ram too.
But the whole point of having 2 Gb of ram is hat you can have more apps running at the same time.
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I don't understand your question.
Using ram is good, because it's used, and free ram is doing nothing.
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I think he's wondering why despite having 2gb of RAM, even if you have just turned on your tablet you find just 950 mb of free ram instead of 1,5 / 2 Gb.
I'm surprised too seeing a huge ram necessity just for the os..
mightmagic said:
Hello ,i have g pad v500 ..I want ask about ram. Factory give this tablet 2mb ram. When i go settings i see free memory about 950mb ram..How can free some memory? Sorry for my english is not good..
thanks
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This is caused mainly by the useless bloatware that manufacturers have preinstalled. Use an app like titanium backup or greenify to freeze/hibernate the apps that you dont need or install a custom rom which comes debloated to free up your device's ram.
I was always told Unused Ram is Wasted Ram
brewer15650 said:
I was always told Unused Ram is Wasted Ram
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My samsung galaxy tab 2 had almost full ram when i bought it because of the ridiculous touchwiz and so many useless programs that i never had intended to use. As a result when i was trying to play a game the tablet was lagging as hell. I searched a bit and found about rooting and installing custom roms, i installed then cyanogen mod and i had like 250mb occupied out of 900mb. Needless to say that the tablet was like 100 times faster than its stock firmware. So the moto unused ram is wasted ram isnt quite true because you might need that extra memory (for example if you play heavy games like modern combat 4 or gta). If you dont have enough free memory the system will try to disable other applications and android isnt known for its task management capabilities in contrary to ios which is supposed to handle applications and memory better(i dont have a personal experience about this though as i dont own an apple device). Lg g pad has a lot of memory and i ve never reached its memory to its full limit even on stock fw.
katsika said:
My samsung galaxy tab 2 had almost full ram when i bought it because of the ridiculous touchwiz and so many useless programs that i never had intended to use. As a result when i was trying to play a game the tablet was lagging as hell. I searched a bit and found about rooting and installing custom roms, i installed then cyanogen mod and i had like 250mb occupied out of 900mb. Needless to say that the tablet was like 100 times faster than its stock firmware. So the moto unused ram is wasted ram isnt quite true because you might need that extra memory (for example if you play heavy games like modern combat 4 or gta). If you dont have enough free memory the system will try to disable other applications and android isnt known for its task management capabilities in contrary to ios which is supposed to handle applications and memory better(i dont have a personal experience about this though as i dont own an apple device). Lg g pad has a lot of memory and i ve never reached its memory to its full limit even on stock fw.
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Disable other application. You'll want to slip a microSD card into a slot on the side that's covered by a little door. The G Pad supports cards up to 64GB.
I just noticed that on my 6P the total ram the os reporting is 2.6Gb. Is that normal? I can't remember but I am pretty sure on my nexus 6 was more. Anyone else noticed this?
Normal.
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This can't be true... Is this normal?
aygul12345 said:
This can't be true... Is this normal?
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Is this your first time buying a tech gadget? Some RAM is always saved for internal usage.
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anglerstock said:
Is this your first time buying a tech gadget? Some RAM is always saved for internal usage.
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No, but is very small amount over... In the picture you see 700mb free.. Isnt that low?
It's like the base 640k from old days, or even better, that space between 640k and 1meg that was mostly reserved and a pain to use.
yeah my operating ram is low as well its always around 700 mb o soI dont see if why if they knew they were gonna use so much why not make it 4GB instead of 3?
Total: 2.6GB
Average used: 66%
Free 0.88GB
Thanks, I was wondering if it's just mine...
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I'm curious why phone, while not running much, reports RAM usage over 50%.
Is this normal or do I need to troubleshoot?
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The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
nrage23 said:
The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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OK that answers my question. Thanks for the link.
No problem. We all get used to Windows which works better with free ram.
nrage23 said:
The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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Dindt know that, thanks for the link
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No problem. We all get used to Windows which works better with free ram.
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But in the G4 you have more Ram to use. Just like about 1GB. And here on the 6P less then 1GB
The stock Google bloat system & apps will use more memory. It always seems to improve free memory with custom roms and their optimization tweak's!
aygul12345 said:
But in the G4 you have more Ram to use. Just like about 1GB. And here on the 6P less then 1GB
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galaxys said:
The stock Google bloat system & apps will use more memory. It always seems to improve free memory with custom roms and their optimization tweak's!
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You are missing the point. You do not want free ram. In Linux based operating systems free memory is wasted memory. It optimizes the ram for the apps you use most frequently and helps them to load faster. The 6P has 3gb of ram.
Thank you sane people. I was getting tired of telling people this fact about Linux ram management.
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I know my nexus is sitting around 60% usage from just the OS / UI but my MotoX 2013 only used maybe 20-30%.
My moto also claimed 2GB RAM and it showed all 2GB, same with my Shield tablet, on any app that shows total RAM yet the nexus only shows 2.64GB.
Unused RAM is wasted RAM.