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So lovely developers, a note from the proud users: MAXIMIZE NFC USE.
I haven't found anything, correct me if I'm wrong, that currently uses the NFC capabilities of the S. I expected 2.3 to have something that would allow us to add CC info and use NFC at Pay-pass stations etc. So please developers, (Or even an app request?) find a way to use that NFC and we will love, Truly. That, and you users know it, will become a make/break for a ROM released.
Thank you for all of your hard work, and continuing work:
Flame.
Ps: If you ever need someone with some free time/Copy of Photoshop/ Beta-Testing, and some Common Sense I'm here!
As of right now, the NFC can only READ information. It has been confirmed though, that a later update will add the WRITE function to the NFC.
http://goo.gl/neyS6
It would have been nice for the retail packaging to include something like the places poster that Google gave to the press, just so we could test out the NFC.
That is on stock. Hopefully when source it out later today we can inspect and tweak. My hope was to enable fast data transfer similar to Bump, anyone know any maximum transfer rate speeds for NFC? Obviously wit read/write enabled.
HazzBazz said:
That is on stock. Hopefully when source it out later today we can inspect and tweak. My hope was to enable fast data transfer similar to Bump, anyone know any maximum transfer rate speeds for NFC? Obviously wit read/write enabled.
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Do you mean Tags? I dont believe we can use that with Pay on the go things right?
[Edit]: Realized thanks to Spherical that we cant yet. =D
I just hope nobody makes a app that could read credit card with NFC (blink) information. As of right now when I put my Nexus S on top of my wallet it reads: "Unknown tag type"
Hopefully it stays that way
sstang2006 said:
I just hope nobody makes a app that could read credit card with NFC (blink) information. As of right now when I put my Nexus S on top of my wallet it reads: "Unknown tag type"
Hopefully it stays that way
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so your telling me the whole time yesterday when i was holding my phone to random peoples butts it was pointless
slowz3r said:
so your telling me the whole time yesterday when i was holding my phone to random peoples butts it was pointless
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lol as of right now, Yes
I'll be getting an aluminum wallet when the time comes.
HazzBazz said:
That is on stock. Hopefully when source it out later today we can inspect and tweak. My hope was to enable fast data transfer similar to Bump, anyone know any maximum transfer rate speeds for NFC? Obviously wit read/write enabled.
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You need to read more and post less. There are no APIs to write via NFC yet.
I like that you say "we" can inspect and tweak it, which its obvious you can't even search the forums, let alone RE or develop code.
I would keep an eye out on the Toshiba Regza phone from NTT DoCoMo in Japan. NFC is huge here. Every store has it and allows you to use it to pay for whatever. The new phone may have some APIs when it is released.
http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/toshiba_regza_phone_is04_launching_next_week.php
sstang2006 said:
I just hope nobody makes a app that could read credit card with NFC (blink) information. As of right now when I put my Nexus S on top of my wallet it reads: "Unknown tag type"
Hopefully it stays that way
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Whoah! I gotta try that now!. And my passport too!
perdurabo2 said:
You need to read more and post less. There are no APIs to write via NFC yet.
I like that you say "we" can inspect and tweak it, which its obvious you can't even search the forums, let alone RE or develop code.
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Lol, and you obviously need to flame less. But what the hell do I know
nxt said:
Whoah! I gotta try that now!. And my passport too!
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It says the same on the passport: "Unknown tag type"
Thieves are drooling over mainstream nfc use. The best thing I have heard yet from someone pro nfc is "its encrypted" lol!
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how do we use the NFC as a credit card?
normally we have to insert the credit card to the device to scan..
if by nexus S, how is it going to scan since the device only reads on chip from your credit card..
xpooz said:
how do we use the NFC as a credit card?
normally we have to insert the credit card to the device to scan..
if by nexus S, how is it going to scan since the device only reads on chip from your credit card..
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As of right now you can't.
xpooz said:
how do we use the NFC as a credit card?
normally we have to insert the credit card to the device to scan..
if by nexus S, how is it going to scan since the device only reads on chip from your credit card..
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As of right now you can't.
I have Chase, and both my Chase "check card" and MasterCard both have "Blink" which is their NFC enabled cards.
When Google finally enables read/write/send capabilities of the NFC, this is what I would guess would happen:
The Chase Android App, you log in and enable the NFC feature. So then you're at the grocery store, you lauch the Chase Android App, login, then "wave" your phone at the Credit Card terminal to pay.
sstang2006 said:
i just hope nobody makes a app that could read credit card with nfc (blink) information. As of right now when i put my nexus s on top of my wallet it reads: "unknown tag type"
hopefully it stays that way :d
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so.much.potential.
You are genuinely a top level idiot. You need to love more and flame less. The API will be released... although true not with source.... because Google expressed explicitly they want to work with third parties. Nokia experimented with nfc for data transfer so it is unlikely that Google will ignore this use. And yeah if people flame you're right not we here at xda but we here at the OEM I work for. Idiot.
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What I was expecting is a Pay-Pal type of Acct with NFC transfer abilities.
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You are genuinely a top level idiot. You need to love more and flame less. The API will be released... although true not with source.... because Google expressed explicitly they want to work with third parties. Nokia experimented with nfc for data transfer so it is unlikely that Google will ignore this use. And yeah if people flame you're right not we here at xda but we here at the OEM I work for. Idiot.
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Hazzbazz, sometimes it's better to just ignore the flamers, who are essentially frustrated trolls in my opinion.
Just add the guy to your ignore list and move on.
Roebeet at slatedroid has a step by step for using the Xoom usb port for host mode: http://www.slatedroid.com/index.php...le-usb-host-mode-ie-thumb-drives-on-the-xoom/
and it is on days like today that I love my Xoom that much more. By the time the devs are done designing things for this tablet, it is going to be a whole new experience. I feel sorry for people that returned theirs after not even giving it real time to grow.
so this enables host mode, but can you switch back and forth between host and client?
I guess his new boot.img that enables the USB host will be a moot point with regard to the new update coming from Moto tonight. This sucks.
an update is coming?
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I guess his new boot.img that enables the USB host will be a moot point with regard to the new update coming from Moto tonight. This sucks.
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Regardless of the update, we will still be able to run this great mod. There has been little work done on the kernel as seen on aosp. so all the kernels floating around will still work just fine. In fact, the only kernel work committed from upstream has primarily been bcm4329 work for the wifi only models.
Will this allow me to plug in my external hard drive?
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After I update I am going to run this bad boy
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Will this allow me to plug in my external hard drive?
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Yes, if your drive is AC powered. And u get the cable. I will release this in my next kernel release with due credits given in my OP.
how hard would it be
To have the OC and USB host lines in the boot/root img?
I would love to have this and OC at the same time!
bigrushdog said:
Yes, if your drive is AC powered. And u get the cable. I will release this in my next kernel release with due credits given in my OP.
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how about portable external HD's that draw power through the usb cable. theese will also be supported too, correct?
The actual change is very minor from stock - a few extra lines in the init.rc and then the /etc/vold.fstab change.
10roller said:
how about portable external HD's that draw power through the usb cable. theese will also be supported too, correct?
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Going on my GTAB experience, it should work. But, there might be a size restriction -- 128GB, I believe (?) and of course FAT32. Again, going on memory here from the GTAB forums.
My external HDD's are all EXT3/4 so I usually don't test them against an OTG cable.
roebeet said:
Going on my GTAB experience, it should work. But, there might be a size restriction -- 128GB, I believe (?) and of course FAT32. Again, going on memory here from the GTAB forums.
My external HDD's are all EXT3/4 so I usually don't test them against an OTG cable.
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FAT32!!!! who uses that anymore?!?!
Anyone got a good link for the right cables. The last one I bought to add storage to my jailbroke apple tv failed miserably.
qw3r7yju4n said:
To have the OC and USB host lines in the boot/root img?
I would love to have this and OC at the same time!
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Yeah I think this might be needed, since it seems that the boot.img for USB host conflicts with the boot.img for OC, rendering your tablet wifi-less. Hope we can get a workaround for this
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FAT32!!!! who uses that anymore?!?!
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(gets on soapbox)
Most of the vendors, unfortunately, because they can't hammer out a long-term solution they all can agree on. FAT32 is still used on flash-based devices because of this problem. And it is a problem.
MS, in its infinite wisdom, created exFAT to replace FAT32. But of course its proprietary and has to be licensed. Why couldn't they just open source it and allow it to used for free? That would be too easy, so they can't do that. NTFS is also proprietary, so getting OS's like Android and iOS requires reverse engineering. And HFS+ is, again, proprietary.
What would be best for consumers is that all the major vendors agree on an open-source standard (like EXT4?), and create drivers for their various OS's to support that standard. Then, we could migrate all new devices to that new standard and be done with this problem. Wouldn't that be wonderful?
(gets off soapbox)
Non zoom owner here, potiential in the future. I guess this mean flash drives not camera and phone etc or is it all the same? Wont different drivers b required?
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I think in the link the person has a link to eBay
strifejester said:
Anyone got a good link for the right cables. The last one I bought to add storage to my jailbroke apple tv failed miserably.
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I think in the link the person has a link to eBay
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Sold out and all the other ones on ebay will take weeks to arrive.
Anyone find a US site that we can buy one of these cables on?
Did anyone have the problem with WiFi breaking after flashing the boot.img? The only way I could get WiFi back was to boot a previous image.
Andy
Will usb port work as a host on the Amazon Fire to support USB flash drive, card readers and other USB peripherals? The USB - micro-b port powered would have to be powered...
If it is, it would compensate to some extent for the lack of microSD card slot.
I have my pre-order in and will cancel if the USB port doesn't work on the host.
Hopefully Amazon will release review models soon!
Thanks!
If you've asking if the device can connect to a pc as a mass storage device, I've read that it can but won't know for sure until I get it in my hands.
Reread your question and I don't think it will do that.
sent from my Infuse at Tranquility Base.
What he asked is if it will work as a host - which means if we could attach pendrives and card readers to it. No one knows right now.
I seriously doubt if the port will work as a usb host. Since, it is a micro usb port, you would need an adapter. But that's easy enough to acquire.
If it does have the capability to host, IE hardware. I don't think amazon would code the software side of things. Espy with all the hype of their could service.
I am hearing that the kindle fire can't use USB host support because it wasn't released until 3.1. Then what about the tablets that do support USB host like the skypad. Also amazon is using a custom version of android which very well could support USB host.
i think it will just be an issue of software, and that is fixable with time, i hear that other android builds with the same proc have the drivers so after rooting you may just be able to sideload the driver on and load it up.
i haven't got mine yet or i would already be tring to get this working, it opens up alot of possiblities with this device (more storage, head set, webcam, printer, etc)
i also hear that the wifi module has support for bluetooth, there just isn't a driver, this is also something to look into.
My boss had his fire delivered today. He borrowed the USB OTG cable (adapter from micro to Full Size Female USB) that I use for my Xoom.
We plugged a thumb drive into it and nothing happened.
Time will tell if software can fix this.
wesscoggin said:
My boss had his fire delivered today. He borrowed the USB OTG cable (adapter from micro to Full Size Female USB) that I use for my Xoom.
We plugged a thumb drive into it and nothing happened.
Time will tell if software can fix this.
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Did you root it?
PS Some news>?
overlof said:
Did you root it?
PS Some news>?
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No.
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Really interested in this. I haven't opened my Kindle Fire yet and this is the deal breaker for me. Would be great if some tests were done including:
(Tests for USB Drives & SD Cards w/ USB>SD Adapter)
OTG Adapter Cable while Rooted
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source while Rooted
Gamernivek said:
Really interested in this. I haven't opened my Kindle Fire yet and this is the deal breaker for me. Would be great if some tests were done including:
(Tests for USB Drives & SD Cards w/ USB>SD Adapter)
OTG Adapter Cable while Rooted
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source
OTG + Splitter Cable w/ Power Source while Rooted
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Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
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I understand your frustration, but development has been quiet on here. I think if someone put up they are working o nit and have list of possible features, questions would be quieted.
Either way, if you are working on this, then I am grateful, whether or not you post up what you're doing
death2all110 said:
Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
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I'm sure everyone is appreciative of your efforts. That being said... After reading this thread and specifically the comment you qouted I don't see where you're coming from. It seems to me that people are asking questions and offering up some thoughts or suggestions that they have, which is what i believe the purpose of a forum is. I intend no disrespect to you and appologize in advance if it is taken that way.
death2all110 said:
Ill save you the trouble ....this MUST be built into the kernel. Amazon would have told us if this was an included feature.
2 options for you guys.
BUY AN ACTUAL ANDROID TABLET AND RETURN THIS...
OR
HAVE SOME PATIENCE!
Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is to be working on something and getting bothered about whether or boy its done yet? All I ask for is patience. Apparently that's too much to ask for!
Us developers are doing all this for free. Donating fuels us.
Ungrateful nerds asking 'Is it done yet?' Just makes us want to say **** all of you and forget it.
Oh and just because someone's name doesn't have 'Recognized Developer' underneath it doesn't mean they aren't a developer.
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I was asking if it was already built in, just wanted to know if it would perhaps work under the correct editions. If you're working on it, great! I just haven't seen any information regarding such. Oh, and at the time I posted that, I didn't have a Kindle Fire so I couldn't test it out myself. I also don't own an OTG Adapter Cable but am planning on picking one up later this week.
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I was asking if it was already built in, just wanted to know if it would perhaps work under the correct editions. If you're working on it, great! I just haven't seen any information regarding such. Oh, and at the time I posted that, I didn't have a Kindle Fire so I couldn't test it out myself. I also don't own an OTG Adapter Cable but am planning on picking one up later this week.
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I apologize.
I have just been getting bothered about a custom kernel alot and dealing with some unpleasant customers (i work retail) I was just overly irritated.
Again, I apologize to you and everyone else.
Hey guys just wondering if anyone is working on activating the Bluetooth on the nook?
For example. Connecting it to some headsets for music.
No excepting much but please comment
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Sorry buddy, definately no Bluetooth built in. The chip was at first mistaken as the same from the color but actually it's a chip derrived from the same as the Nook but it's had FM and Bluetooth removed to save money :/ Bummer.
The only way would be to develop a USB host mode like the Samsun galaxy and with that you have to be careful not to fry chips. mmm... chippies
thanks for the quick reply
to bad what a bumper would have been nice to have it
I have the same feeling. I was hoping that I could get audio out from BT.
Himalayas said:
I have the same feeling. I was hoping that I could get audio out from BT.
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Hint: USB Host mode
The NST is in fact able to do this, it even loads the USB in OTG mode, but our kernel doesn't have all the bells and whistles required for it to work.
There are patches for 2.6.29 afaik (CM), so you go recruit some kernel hackers and you'll have BT adapter support in no time
I've been reading something about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960633
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Maybe we could even port it when the time comes.
eded333 said:
Maybe we could even port it when the time comes.
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It could be ported tonight if we had the right people around
Sadly, but understandably, the NST community is not as big as the phone community, and thus we lack the serious kernel hackers.
True
eded333 said:
True
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Any progress?? I want to Bluetooth tether to cell via USB Bluetooth.
i think it is not possible yet ^_^
Hi,
Does our Motorola XOOM support USB 3g modem over usb otg cable?
I have seen many cheap tablet supporting this function.
justpratik3769 said:
Hi,
Does our Motorola XOOM support USB 3g modem over usb otg cable?
I have seen many cheap tablet supporting this function.
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Yes. I will be starting a thread on this shortly. Please provide make,model, and chipset of your dongle.
bigrushdog said:
Yes. I will be starting a thread on this shortly. Please provide make,model, and chipset of your dongle.
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Nice to hear that! Because it can be the easest way to convert Verizon Xoom to EU Xoom
I have two modems:
Huawei E1750 - usb dongle
Option GTM378 - internal mpci modem that is detected by xoom.
Booth are visible on lsusb, and booth are using usb_wwan.ko and option.ko
So if you need tester say a word
P.
nice to hear from BRD. i really hope this alot because i am using wifi version.
i was running usb_modeswitch to switch the modem to zero cd on the xoom. and
mount all the ttyusb0 ,1, 2 but i couldn't dial(tried pppd call). sorry i am new to this kind of thing so maybe i am missing just a little things.
hope BRD will clear all out.
all my Modem
Huawei EC1260-2 (EVDO rev A)
haier ce610
zte AC682.
i hope one of them can be used with xoom.
Very wellll !
My modem is zte k3765
Huawie E160e 3g dongle
3g-modem.wetpaint.com/page/Huawei+E160+(E160G,+E160E,+E160X
Don't know about chipset but pagehas drivers and other info
The dongle I have does not require any special drivers. It uses Ethernet over USB via RNDIS or CDC-ENCM. A previous Tiamat HC rom supported this and you and Solarnz helped me with a script to configure the connection/gateway. It would be great if I could get this to work on the EOS roms.
I posted this request previously in the wingray EOS thread. I am only reposting to consolidate the request into this thread.
Thanks BRD!
Big thank you sir . for replying...
i've those
ZTE K3770-Z
Huawei E1731
bigrushdog said:
Yes. I will be starting a thread on this shortly. Please provide make,model, and chipset of your dongle.
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Thanks for your works:
Mine HUAWEI E1552 on bouygtel
Thanks again
Novatel Wireless USB551L on VZW
Yi
HuckFinn said:
The dongle I have does not require any special drivers. It uses Ethernet over USB via RNDIS or CDC-ENCM. A previous Tiamat HC rom supported this and you and Solarnz helped me with a script to configure the connection/gateway. It would be great if I could get this to work on the EOS roms.
I posted this request previously in the wingray EOS thread. I am only reposting to consolidate the request into this thread.
Thanks BRD!
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I have to double check, but the rndis over USB may break android gadget drivers. And that is a massive epic fail. If you can, post up that script to help me refresh my memory. In fact, I may write a helper app for all this 3g/ethernet dongle business.
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Yi
I have to double check, but the rndis over USB may break android gadget drivers. And that is a massive epic fail. If you can, post up that script to help me refresh my memory. In fact, I may write a helper app for all this 3g/ethernet dongle business.
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Here is the post with the script information. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22346822&postcount=2987
That would suck if RNDIS is not possible since it worked on HC. It was pretty nice being able to use my 4G dongle with my WiFi Xoom but ICS is so much nicer. Keep me posted and I am willing to try anything out.
When you and Solarnz were helping me out, one of you had me run some commands in a terminal window which showed that the OS was seeing the device. Unfortuneately I do not remember what those commands were to see if ICS sees it as well.
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On second thought, from the output of the script it looks like the Xoom sees the ethernet connection, eth0, as the Xoom is provided an IP address.
HuckFinn said:
Here is the post with the script information. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22346822&postcount=2987
That would suck if RNDIS is not possible since it worked on HC. It was pretty nice being able to use my 4G dongle with my WiFi Xoom but ICS is so much nicer. Keep me posted and I am willing to try anything out.
When you and Solarnz were helping me out, one of you had me run some commands in a terminal window which showed that the OS was seeing the device. Unfortuneately I do not remember what those commands were to see if ICS sees it as well.
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On second thought, from the output of the script it looks like the Xoom sees the ethernet connection, eth0, as the Xoom is provided an IP address.
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Ya the problem is the rndis support. That's why you get that error on the last line. Ill cook a kernel in a bit with the needed additions.
Ok HuckFinn you lucked out. We got rndis but only as a module. Baked in it breaks all sorts of stuff. I tested by using USB tether from my evo3d to the xoom and it works. The only issue is the "internet not fully registered with android" issue. However, I'm pretty sure I know what to do. Look for a new thread from me regarding modules, drivers, and hardware.
Also, if some of the mentioned dongles need drivers, ill see if I can cook them. I'm pretty sure most use either rndis or the option USB_wwan stack.
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Ok HuckFinn you lucked out. We got rndis but only as a module. Baked in it breaks all sorts of stuff. I tested by using USB tether from my evo3d to the xoom and it works. The only issue is the "internet not fully registered with android" issue. However, I'm pretty sure I know what to do. Look for a new thread from me regarding modules, drivers, and hardware.
Also, if some of the mentioned dongles need drivers, ill see if I can cook them. I'm pretty sure most use either rndis or the option USB_wwan stack.
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Thanks BRD, I will look for the new thread.
I'm sure you guys enjoy doing this for the sheer challenge, but the fact that you help so many without asking for much if anything in return is simply awesome.
I have only single modem
I have 3 modems all detected in dmesg hope its will suported on eos ics
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BRD, would you be so kind to post a link to your new thread once you start it? I've been searching for it daily and I think everyone following this thread would appreciate it.
Thanks!
Hi, mine is huawei k3715 vodafone. It's similar to huawei e230.
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM7225
Thanks
Here is a link to BRD's new thread in the development section. Please be sure to read the first post and try to honor his request to keep the thread clean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513490