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Hate to admit it, but this is my third RMA. I did a couple back in July and still had issues. So decided to wait a month or more and try one more RMA.
My first two RMAs with Google were pretty quick. I called them, got the link request the replacement. It took them about one business day to ship it and they'd send it 2 day delivery. So the entire process from the time I called to receiving the replacement was just 3 days on both of those RMAs. And that was when Google was up to their elbows in new orders and replacements.
I would have thought almost 2 months later things would settle down. But I started an RMA on Tuesday and it's Friday and they haven't even shipped it yet.
Anyone else do any RMAs this week?
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Hate to admit it, but this is my third RMA. I did a couple back in July and still had issues. So decided to wait a month or more and try one more RMA.
My first two RMAs with Google were pretty quick. I called them, got the link request the replacement. It took them about one business day to ship it and they'd send it 2 day delivery. So the entire process from the time I called to receiving the replacement was just 3 days on both of those RMAs. And that was when Google was up to their elbows in new orders and replacements.
I would have thought almost 2 months later things would settle down. But I started an RMA on Tuesday and it's Friday and they haven't even shipped it yet.
Anyone else do any RMAs this week?
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The whole process has gone to s#! *, my first rma at the beginning of august I got labels, rma form, and replacement shipped the same day. 2nd rma I called Google and they told me a rep would call me back to take my info down. Never got the call and had to call them back. A whole lot of phone and email tag trying to get all my forms and labels just to get a replacement
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Oh yeah. I just realized I haven't even gotten the email with the return labels. That usually comes at the same time as the email for the replacement order.
Guess I'll have to call Google and find out what happened to the RMA.
Call once more, if nothing happens then file a complaint with the BBB.
Ravynmagi said:
Hate to admit it, but this is my third RMA. I did a couple back in July and still had issues. So decided to wait a month or more and try one more RMA.
My first two RMAs with Google were pretty quick. I called them, got the link request the replacement. It took them about one business day to ship it and they'd send it 2 day delivery. So the entire process from the time I called to receiving the replacement was just 3 days on both of those RMAs. And that was when Google was up to their elbows in new orders and replacements.
I would have thought almost 2 months later things would settle down. But I started an RMA on Tuesday and it's Friday and they haven't even shipped it yet.
Anyone else do any RMAs this week?
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I did one almost a week ago and still hasn't shipped... So I feel where you're coming from.
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I did one almost a week ago and still hasn't shipped... So I feel where you're coming from.
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I didn't call, figure since is Friday I'll just wait to next Monday to find out what is happening. Perhaps they are waiting on the next C9O batch from ASUS.
I called Google and it turns out their system went down and existing replacements got stuck in the queue. He said he'll need to escalate my issue to get my replacement unstuck from the queue.
Got this shortly later from Google...
Hi,
We're aware of an issue preventing shipment of advance replacement devices
and are working on a fix.
Please rest assured that this delay will be accounted for when calculating
the deadline for return of your original device.
Apologies for the inconvenience.
Regards,
The Google Play Team
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I called Google and it turns out their system went down and existing replacements got stuck in the queue. He said he'll need to escalate my issue to get my replacement unstuck from the queue.
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At least u didn't get a "ghost" unit. When I went to get an rma on my second unit (screen lift and dead pixels) Google said they couldn't find my n7 in their system. So it took me a week and a half before they got it resolved and sent me a new one
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Yeah,I also called them this morning and receive that same email.
I placed my original RMA request on 8-31. Every day I call them and they tell me the same story.. That they are escalating my order to another department that is dealing with the shipments of RMA's and nothing every happens. I call everyday.
Hi ,
Thank you for contacting Google. It was a pleasure getting to speak with
you today. As promised, I've forwarded your case to a specialist to begin
working to resolve your issue as soon as possible.
We're aware of an issue preventing shipment of advance replacement devices
and are working on a fix.
Please rest assured that this delay will be accounted for when calculating
the deadline for return of your original device.
In the meantime, if you come across any other information that you'd like
to pass along, please feel free to reply to this email. Your responses
will automatically go to the specialist working on your case.
Apologies for the inconvenience.
Regards,
The Google Play Team
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Got this shortly later from Google...
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Geez, not good to hear this has at least been going on since August 31st and still isn't fixed. Google had no problem putting a hold on my credit card though.
They told me to call again if I don't hear anything by Thursday.
I just called and they said it's stuck in a pending state as well. Guy said he would email my case specialist and I should get an email back.
Hmm...that sucks. I have been contemplating RMAing my N7 lately. I've always had very slight screen lift, but it never really bothered me. I removed 2 screws under the area where the lift was, and later removed the sponge strip. That fixed it 90% of the way. But the last few weeks I get the unresponsive touch screen, and have to turn the screen off, then back on. That fixes it completely, until it happens again. I've flashed a few ROMs and kernels, and it's a lot better now, but still happens daily.
If/when I hear that new units aren't plagued with defects, I may RMA.
So if I ordered from the Play Store and request an RMA, they'll send me a new one first, place a $199+tax hold on my CC, and wait for me to return mine, correct?
What if I get the new one and it's worse, and I want to return IT? Does that create a bigger problem?
Thanks, and keep us up to date on your situation please
Edit: Is it possible to RMA an 8GB model, and request the new one be a 16GB, and pay the difference?
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If/when I hear that new units aren't plagued with defects, I may RMA.
So if I ordered from the Play Store and request an RMA, they'll send me a new one first, place a $199+tax hold on my CC, and wait for me to return mine, correct?
What if I get the new one and it's worse, and I want to return IT? Does that create a bigger problem?
Thanks, and keep us up to date on your situation please
Edit: Is it possible to RMA an 8GB model, and request the new one be a 16GB, and pay the difference?
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The hold they put on your credit card is only the cost of the device, no sales tax. So for the 8GB model it would only be $199 total. They hold with my bank usually goes away in less than 2 days.
Google rep told me that if the replacement also has issues they still wanted me to return the original and then do another RMA on the replacement.
You have 3 weeks to return the device and normally the RMA process is pretty quick. So you could still hold on to the original while doing another RMA on the second, so long as you get that original back within the 3 week window.
For the last item, you can ask, but doubtful.
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The hold they put on your credit card is only the cost of the device, no sales tax. So for the 8GB model it would only be $199 total. They hold with my bank usually goes away in less than 2 days.
Google rep told me that if the replacement also has issues they still wanted me to return the original and then do another RMA on the replacement.
You have 3 weeks to return the device and normally the RMA process is pretty quick. So you could still hold on to the original while doing another RMA on the second, so long as you get that original back within the 3 week window.
For the last item, you can ask, but doubtful.
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Cool, thanks for the info man!
So what you said..."Google rep told me that if the replacement also has issues they still wanted me to return the original and then do
another RMA on the replacement."
If I got a replacement that was worse(dead pixels, blown speaker) than my original (screen lift) I would have to keep the crappier one and give them my original N7 per the RMA...then start an RMA on the crappy replacement that I now am stuck with for an unspecified amount of days? That would suck. I've heard many stories of the replacement having more/worse defects than the original. Well, when or if the N7 starts to ship mainly defect free, I might RMA. Until then, I just have a really bad feeling that I have over a 50% chance my replacement will have more/worse defects. I guess I'll just keep mine, while keeping a lookout for better quality batches in the future. Thanks again man, good luck on the new Nexus.
Replacement Device being shipped.
Just a update. I received the shipping email this morning.. Whoo hoo.
Submitted RMA request: 08/31
Shipped new device: 09/12
The Authorization fell off out cc account but Google reran the authorization again today.
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Geez, not good to hear this has at least been going on since August 31st and still isn't fixed. Google had no problem putting a hold on my credit card though.
They told me to call again if I don't hear anything by Thursday.
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Google has lost there mind..
im waiting for them to send me a replacement device for a replacement that came damaged. THEY HAVE A GRAND of my money.. HOW Do they feel this is ok to do ...
GOOGLE I HOPE YOU WATCHING This forum . your layal customers are very upset . and APPLE IS LOVING EVERY MINUTE.
I just received my replacement today (sent the RMA request on September 4th) and it is a C50K with 2 dents on the bottom (1 big and 1 barely noticeable). The border around the screen is blue instead of black and on the inside there are fingerprints everywhere. The screen is still raised on the left side but at the moment it isn't loose and creaky (yet).
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I received my Replacement device yesterday. Same issue. Left part of screen is raised and its a C80.
So off to send original one back and do this process all over again
I got my replacement yesterday too. It's a C8O and sadly it's got the screen lift on the left side, quite noticeable lift.
This is my third and last RMA. Sadly I'm just gonna have to accept it and live with it. I'm still happy with it for $250, just physical flaws bother me a bit. Oh well.
okay so, I had ordered a replacement Nexus 7 and got the hold of $250. I received it monday but I like my current one better.
I haven't shipped back the Replacement one yet and I looked today and it released the hold? I was credited back $250?
Not sure what happened. Any ideas?
And is it okay to send back the replacement?
Sorry for so many questions. Just clueless.
Thanks everyone.
I didn't order from the play store but I can see that they may track serial numbers.
You might want to contact Google and ask them.. just to be safe. I would do the honest thing and figure out what needs to be sent back and send it back.
Of course. I'm not the type of person to keep something like that.
I just don't want to spend my money on bills, then all of a sudden while my replacement is being sent back, another $250 shows up and I don't have it.
OK has anyone had any experience on doing an exchange or return in the UK for a nexus 4.
I recieved mine today and the damn device is perfect in every way except the bezel had a big chunk of paint chipped off where the volume rocker is. I was gutted as the screen was pixel perfect the buttons were solid the back didn't creak. nothing.
So I thought I'll set up an exchange no problem Google are good this way. After all the guys over in the us get a shipping label send off the device and in the mean time a new one is winging its way to you. Thanks to ups.
So I spoke to Eric who said he would set up the RMA and I should send back the damaged device with the shipping label and RMA note in the email he would send.
Not so
I got the email and it had an RMA document but no shipping label.
I phoned to ask where I send it from then. Now Jeremy tells me they don't do shipping labels for the UK as its TNT that deal with things over here.
OK I thought I'll contact TNT
Nope they need a reference number for collection or before they can do anything.
So I phone back
In the mean time I check my Google account and notice the new device £279 pending. So I check my bank and find the £279 has been pre authorized on my bank account
Which wouldn't be so bad if they sent a shipping label etc as I could have it sent away tomorrow and with them next week. Well within the 21days return and they wouldnt charge me.
As it is I have no shipping label and no one can reassure me that one is or will be send and how I will receive it.
So I call up johnney at Google who tells me it should turn up but does not know how.
Well I can't have £279 pre auth out my account for a device that will ship to me sometime and £288 out my account for a device I have but is faulty so can't sell it and probably won't get a shipping label sent out therefore I'll end up with one good device which I will be charged for and another that's faulty and cannot return
That's if the exchange is OK when it comes
My god why don't they offer a door step exchange like Sony did with the ps3 etc through ups or city link
In the end I couldn't take the risk and had to cancel the exchange so that the pre auth will drop off my account and set up the RMA for the one I have to get a refund.
I know its not great but better than being charged again and ending up not being able to return the first.
From what I read over at the nexus 7 forum a lot of UK customers waited for about a month for refunds but some were 59 days or more as the shipping labels just didn't go out.
So I wanted to know if anyone had already went through this process in the UK and what the actual procedure was and how long it took to receive the shipping label etc. Did it get sent out or did you drop it off with TNT and give googles account number or what.
Any info would be great and I'm sure it would help other UK customers as I would have really liked some info.
Unfortunately we are not as fortunate as our US brothers and sisters to be able to deal with ups and simple returns.
Here's some pics of my lovely but flawed nexus
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Anyone want to chip in with experiences as it would be really useful to find out what's going on in the UK since Google don't seem to know
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
I've just organised a replacement due to white spots on the screen and the buzzing earpiece. It took a while to get through, and I was ready to break something due to the pre recorded message about high volumes of calls on a constant loop (as in it literally repeats the second it finishes) but the guy I spoke to was extremely helpful, more so than any UK based CSR I've ever dealt with!
In terms of the procedure, he's emailing me with an RMA form and he said a prepaid postage label will come with my new device in order to send the defective one back. He also said a charge will appear on my card and once they receive the defective device they'd take the charge off.
Although my experience hasn't completed yet, I thought I'd share my experience so far.
01354 226184 that's the none 0800 number to call for UK based support by the way, for those who can't call 0800 numbers for free.
Yeah same as myself.
The issue I have with it all is they don't really know who arranges what in the UK. I was told its TNT that arrange the returns bag but TNT say its Google that have to initiate the return through TNT. Then latter sounds more sensible but Google cs don't know how to do this and presume its automatic.
Problem is you only have a limited time to get the return back to them.
If I could walk into TNT give googles TNT account number then pop the device in a bag with the RMA note I would be happy.
It would be sent off and tracked. Simply just have to wait on it being received and refunded.
What makes me uneasy is the potential for the returns bag to never turn up. You get billed for a second device and no way to return the original defective one.
I'll keep this going as there are lots of threads about returns in the US but nothing about how the process works in practice in the UK which leaves me wishing Google had a walking store or doorstep exchange service.
Also thanks for the non 0800 number
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
You know I remember reading somewhere in the agreement Google say that they reserve the rights to send out used/refurbished items as replacement. Maybe your nexus is one of those.
Just a suggestion: Do try to make sure you handle your RMA carefully. I recently did an RMA and the CSR sounds like a complete noob and in the email they sent me has a RMA agreement with ASUS and link on it.They're just getting real sloppy.
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You know I remember reading somewhere in the agreement Google say that they reserve the rights to send out used/refurbished items as replacement. Maybe your nexus is one of those.
Just a suggestion: Do try to make sure you handle your RMA carefully. I recently did an RMA and the CSR sounds like a complete noob and in the email they sent me has a RMA agreement with ASUS and link on it.They're just getting real sloppy.
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There is no way the RMA stock already has returned/refurbished devices in it. They have to go back through a process to be repaired, inspected, tested, and repackaged before they can be sent as RMA units and this process takes weeks or even months. Any RMA units that are sent out at this point in time will definitely be new units.
The RMA devices are new as they have as said before kept a stock of new ones aside for this purpose.
As of yet I have not had any returns envelope or shipping label etc.
I know j could use the nexus 4 just now until returned but I'm just so fed up with the whole process its left the device tainted with this experience. Its an awesome device and love the design I just can't bring myself to use it because of all this. So it will be returned as I got it if I ever get to return it
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ok sorry to say as of yet STILL have NO retruns envelope etc for my N4 despite google cs saying its been sent
Gutted mate, had the same problem but some persistent nagging via email and I got my label need to ring TNT and arrange collection
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how did the label come out? did it come through royal mail
While you still have it. Give it a little scratch please, around the chip are. Does it come off really easy? Thanks a lot.
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how did the label come out? did it come through royal mail
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TNT delivered it mate had to sign for it as well
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I looked at their site and it said the RMA document would be sent with my replacement, which would be despatched within a week of the 20th. Seriously, Google are a joke!
I'm trying to arrange a collection for my faulty Nexus, I have the TNT bag with the consignment letter, which has a senders account number registered to Google. The delivery address on the consignment letter is that of LG Electronics in Poland, TNT won't collect it as the delivery address that they have registered to the Account Number that I'm quoting is for Google in Belgium.
Did anyone else experience this? I'm tempted to blag it with TNT and just say that the delivery address is what they think it should be.
I just realized that i setup a repair with LG for my Nexus 4. The problem is that it keeps on freezing up and getting really hot, no matter the ROM. Even on stock i had the same issue. Now, being a technician, i setup a repair with LG not thinking that i should call Google and have them swap it out for me like everyone else (what was i thinking!!??). It shipped out yesterday and is in transit to deliver to LG on Friday. Did i mess up? I mean i have other phones to use mean while, but i feel like i should have gone with calling Google as i bought the phone from the Play Store. I guess im feeling sort of stupid for doing the repair thru LG but i think i might be able to re-route the delivery so it comes back to me ( and waste shipping $$). What should i do? Any help is greatly appreciated.
They'll probably just send it back to you and bill you for shipping.
I would call them and get a note in your file to protect you from charges...
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They'll probably just send it back to you and bill you for shipping.
I would call them and get a note in your file to protect you from charges...
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I intercepted the package. Im just waiting for UPS to update the page as to where my phone is now...i had to pay $12 to have them return it back to me. There goes $30...you live and learn i suppose. The good news is that i setup a repair with Google so ill have them ship me a phone while my other one is coming back to me and ill just swap them.
Well, it's happened on Monday. Was using my phone and bloop....screen goes off and that's the last time it worked. Gradually got to the stage where it wouldnt even loop but my 5x is dead. RIP.
So, being out of warranty and all I sent an email to LG to see how much it would cost to repair. Reply came back with a series of questions but no "reply to" address. That's one way of hiding from the problem I suppose. For a company to try and avoid their responsibilities for a screamingly obvious hardware flaw is way out of order. At least Samsung had the guts to put their hands up.
Sharing this as part of the grieveing process in a way for the old Nexus devices. Had a 4, a 7 and then a 5x. The Pixels came out but when I saw their price tags and the setups it just reeked of apple (excuse the bad swearing language). Very sad really for someone who rarely went a whole week without the simple process of changing rom or setup or kernel but that was the beauty of the Nexus ethos.
Since Monday evening I have been the owner of a Moto G5 Plus. Only charged it three times since getting it. Ads are part blocked in stock, it's nippy and am moving on with my life post nexus. Trouble is it's still on 7.0 but not a big issue for me.
Anyway, thanks guys and gals for the good times. LEarnt a lot about android, poor customer service and build quality from LG and made some good friends (and enemies) on here.
Keep happy
My 5X also died from last Sunday.... I sent my phone to authorized service (Procordia in Greece). I'm waiting now when the phone will be fixed (changing motherboard).
So I know you already moved on to the G5 plus, but you should see about getting it repaired. Then you could always keep on hand as a .spare device. Mine bootlooped (a second time) well out of warranty but I filled out the RMA request on LG's website (didn't talk to anyone, just like I did the first time) and they fixed it a second time for free. I don't recall how long they did it for, but they extended the warranty
edit: should point out I'm in the US and it might not go as well in other countries
My nexus died on me yesterday, still have 3 days left in warranty. Filed 2 reports to LG to request a repair and have had no email or anything, its as if my request has vanished. This is utterly ridicolous as I need a phone and I'm currently without one and can't afford anything worth buying. Will have to resort to using my Nokia 1600. Shame on LG for being like this
You should try contacting LG via phone and that might work better. The 5X warranty has been extended to 18 months on a case by case basis since this is a hardware problem. If they won't fix it, all you did was spend time on the call, but if you are eligible to have it fixed, you'd have a spare phone.
These bootloops are getting more and more common as our phone ages. Mine froze and shut down randomly and bricked while using it a few months back. Thankfully I bought mine here in the UK from Carphone Warehouse where I sent it for repairs, got the motherboard replaced, and fixed in one week, for free with the 2-year warranty. It sucks that LG aren't willing to help you guys though.
Mine died on me earlier this year. Luckily I had some backup phones. Using my old 2013 Nexus 5 currently. I can get life from my phone here and then but it freezes and shuts down during the boot animation. I bought mine from someone off craigslist so I doubt I'd have any luck getting it fixed by Google or LG. Too bad parts are hard to come by or I would try and buy a new motherboard and replace it myself. I really do miss using the 5X though. Just got to hold off until the end of the year for the next Pixel.
My Nexus 5X also bootlooped itself to death yesterday. I purchased it January 2016 when my Nexus 5 decided to kill itself. Unfortunately I also bought a 5X for my girlfriend at the same time which I'm expecting to go anytime now. I'm currently using my Samsung Galaxy S II that I bought at launch and is still alive 6 years later. Sucks because the only new phone that looks good to me right now is the LG G6, but I don't trust LG anymore so I don't know what to replace it with. Galaxy S 8 is purdy but I don't want to deal with burn in (like on my GS2). Essential also looks nice but doesn't have a headphone jack so that's out. Might have to go Sony with it's gigantic bezels. :-\
Update: Getting a refurbished replacement from Google. Hopefully by the time this one dies there will be some more appealing replacement options.
My second 5X died few days ago. Good phone bad quality
Mine died today. Warranty expired last October but they are sending me a refurb replacement. I've had it since November 2015 and even Bought it off swappa so I feel fortunate in one way but a phone should last a lot longer than that.
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Mine died today. Warranty expired last October but they are sending me a refurb replacement. I've had it since November 2015 and even Bought it off swappa so I feel fortunate in one way but a phone should last a lot longer than that.
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Who did you go through? Google or LG? I bought mine from someone off Craigslist but haven't tried asking for a replacement since I've never had any type of warranty. Did you have to show any kind of receipt of buying it or anything or did they just simply say "Ok" and send you a refurbished one? Also, did you call them or email them?
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Who did you go through? Google or LG? I bought mine from someone off Craigslist but haven't tried asking for a replacement since I've never had any type of warranty. Did you have to show any kind of receipt of buying it or anything or did they just simply say "Ok" and send you a refurbished one? Also, did you call them or email them?
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I went through Google. All they did was ask for and run the lME number. I did not expect anything to come of it but I thought it was worth a try. I chatted online.
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I went through Google. All they did was ask for and run the lME number. I did not expect anything to come of it but I thought it was worth a try. I chatted online.
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Well I just might do the same. If you bought it from a third party and it died yesterday and your already getting a refurbished one, I think I may have a shot. Good to know. Thanks
Well. Some progress here too.
Decided to give LG a go but as I bought it over ebay they wouldnt entertain any warranty work but gave me their out of warranty people called SBE here in the UK.
Contacted SBE and without any commitment on their behalf the fella said that they would look at it and if its not showing signs of damage and water etc then it should be covered as they have permission to replace faulty motherboards with only postage costs.
So am packing the phone off to them and see what happens. Anybody else experienced this route? Would be worth getting it fixed just to sell the damn thing afterwards.
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Well I just might do the same. If you bought it from a third party and it died yesterday and your already getting a refurbished one, I think I may have a shot. Good to know. Thanks
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Sure,
the verbage is a bit intimidating saying that they are putting full price for refurbished on hold on your account to see if it is covered by warranty but what they want to do is make sure you didn't run over it or drop it from a ten story building.
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Sure,
the verbage is a bit intimidating saying that they are putting full price for refurbished on hold on your account to see if it is covered by warranty but what they want to do is make sure you didn't run over it or drop it from a ten story building.
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So you have to send the broken phone to them I assume?
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So you have to send the broken phone to them I assume?
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Yes, and then when they receive it and see it's not physically damaged (water, smashed screen) they refund you back the price of the phone. I didn't have to pay shipping either way.
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Yes, and then when they receive it and see it's not physically damaged (water, smashed screen) they refund you back the price of the phone. I didn't have to pay shipping either way.
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It's kind of funny they would even hold onto the price of the phone seeing as the device isn't under warranty and it would be no loss to them. I mean, what would be the scenario where they would actually charge you the amount of the phone?
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It's kind of funny they would even hold onto the price of the phone seeing as the device isn't under warranty and it would be no loss to them. I mean, what would be the scenario where they would actually charge you the amount of the phone?
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They send you the phone right away and give you 21 days to get the bad phone back to them. The hold is to make sure they get an undamaged phone returned to them.
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They send you the phone right away and give you 21 days to get the bad phone back to them. The hold is to make sure they get an undamaged phone returned to them.
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Ah, ok. Well that makes sense then. I thought they would send it to you after they analyzed the damaged one.