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Hello All,
So I like many others I have the wicked screen flickering issue and have already talked to the GS manager at my local store. They are awaiting my unit to ship, could be up to a week because the warehouse doesn't have enough in back-stock.
In the meantime I can still use my tablet, but the question is..should I risk rooting it before the swap? I've been rooted and flashing different ROMs and Kernels for awhile on my Gnex but just briefly looking over the Nexus 7 forums it seems like some people are having a tough time with drivers and bricking. I realize the Gnex has been around way longer and the devs know it like the back of their hand, but should I risk rooting over these next few days and possibly running into a snag before swapping it out at Gamestop?
If it helps to know what computer I'd be doing the rooting/flashing from I could either do it on a Win7 32bit machine or a Macbook Pro running Lion.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but it seemed like a split between development and returns.
-Steve
stevvveo said:
Hello All,
So I like many others I have the wicked screen flickering issue and have already talked to the GS manager at my local store. They are awaiting my unit to ship, could be up to a week because the warehouse doesn't have enough in back-stock.
In the meantime I can still use my tablet, but the question is..should I risk rooting it before the swap? I've been rooted and flashing different ROMs and Kernels for awhile on my Gnex but just briefly looking over the Nexus 7 forums it seems like some people are having a tough time with drivers and bricking. I realize the Gnex has been around way longer and the devs know it like the back of their hand, but should I risk rooting over these next few days and possibly running into a snag before swapping it out at Gamestop?
If it helps to know what computer I'd be doing the rooting/flashing from I could either do it on a Win7 32bit machine or a Macbook Pro running Lion.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but it seemed like a split between development and returns.
-Steve
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Is there something specifically you want to do with root? Before you root it, you have to unlock the bootloader [and probably flash cwm/twrp]. The oem bootloader unlock erases all your data [you can back it up beforehand though] too.
So if you're only gonna have it for a few days, I'd say probably not. But if you're an android nerd, and like to flash things, then I'd say go ahead if you don't mind the work of re-locking the bootloader and flashing the stock rom/recovery again later when you go to exchange it.
Drivers aren't really an issue anymore since Asus released official drivers. Only at first were there issues because we DIDN'T have signed drivers, so Windows complained about it and Windows 8 wouldn't even install them without some huge work around.
But yes. I would. You might as well test the waters on that one since it's going back. The Nexus Toolkit can restore the factory image and relock your device before you take it back.
Who knows, a new rom and kernel may fix your screen issues. Remember the N7 that came with ICS? Maybe yours has beta drivers on it or something...
Thanks to both! Sorry I went on an impromptu vacation. But I did test the water with my N7using the toolkit. Returned it. My new one unfortunately has a little backlight bleed, but I don't think Gamestop will keep replacing them.
Thanks again.
As the title suggests, I have just turned into an Andriod user...i.e.: this is my first ever andriod device. If it was not for Nexus 4's cutting-edge hardware+software combined with its PRICING (the major part), I wouldnt have bought an andriod phone.
Just want to know who else is on the same boat. There are a lot of questions running in my mind.. rooting.. kernel.. ROMs.. what not! May be by the passage of time I will learn all this and enjoy the journey of Andriod-world.
Welcome. You couldn't have picked a better android device to start off with.
If you have any questions regarding rooting or anything android in general feel free to PM me.
Good luck!
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@ mackster248.
Thank you mate. I am obliged. Will surely contact if I plan on rooting.
Feel free to contact me as well if you need to! Also don't be afraid to ask questions, just be sure to use the search function
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Tip is since you're new. Don't use the toolkit, spend the time and learn about it to manually unlock the bootloader if you decide on flashing anything (custom rom, kernel, root). It's very simple to do and will help you in the long run. Check the forum sticky threads and there are tutorials on how to approach this.
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the previous one, galaxy nexus, was my first one. i couldn't see myself using gingerbread before, it was too ugly. when they got matias duarte and it started to look like something i made the jump and never looked back. i'd say use your nexus for a while. you can always root it easily, that wont be a problem, but why not enjoying stock android while its new and fresh for you. i mean, im all for rooting it but honestly, the time when a new android comes out and we don't have sources yet but we can't wait so we jump to I/O leaks or factory images, that is always the nicest.
although, yeah, i forgot about nex4's washed out colors........... maybe it makes sense to root it right away for that purpose since its gonna look ten times better when its calibrated.
Welcome!
As zephiK said, try doing it all manually. Don't just find the automation scripts and use them. I started with the HTC Dream/G1, haven't looked back since. I must say android has changed a lot since the early days, but one thing has stayed the same, the knowledge I gained from having to do it manually from the get go, can roughly be applied to any android device. It largely helps you gain a better understanding of how the device works and what methods can be used to manipulate the software to do what you need, and want.
Oh yeah! How could I forget. Unlock your bootloader manually DAY ONE, even if you don't decide to root.
Why? When you unlock your bootloader, it will wipe your phone's internals and data. So you might as well do it right away so if u do decide to tinker with your phone, you can always back up everything and make your transition very easy to do.
Hey there,
I got my Nexus just before Christmas and
I'm pretty happy with it! that's my first android device. Previously I've had an iPhone 4. For me screen might be even bigger but it's pretty much OK
I decided to try root a week ago and flashed AOKP three days ago. It is all fantastic! Compared with my nexus iPhone is like a piece of ****^^
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I too am a first time Android User and a proud owner of the Nexus 4.
It was quite a transition from Symbian to Android. Well, not really.
Now to figure out why I rooted my device last night.
My first android was the one and only T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream). Loved it to death. But I lost it while on trip to California in 2009. I was pissed about it for almost a year :crying:
Currently have the HTC Vision (G2). Wanting to get my hands on a N4 badly. I almost want to pull the trigger and buy an overpriced one on Amazon or eBay. I'm checking the Play Store everyday for it. Let's see if I can hold out.
BTW, just got a N7 yesterday. Rooted it the moment I got it.
Android can do so much even on stock devices... I'd suggest trying it all out for a month or so before flashing kernels, etc. Just because there is so much to customize and try (and break... a bit) even without rooting.
Well nexus4 is my first Android phone i bought myself, i have used before android. But owned only Nokia. After 2 weeks I am very happy and i think i won't regret chosing this over L920
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me too!
hi all,
the nex4 has also pulled me from the grasp of Apple. Only had mine for about 3 hours so still learning it all, and its great!
Root Process
I am new to android and need to know the step by step process of root. Like unlocking boot loader is the first step, second step ?? and so on.. Please give the step by step flow from scratch.
Nexus 4 is also my first Android device, got it last 16th of December. The best Christmas gift I had for myself after awhile. Since then, I'm lovin it!
Sandeep_AV said:
I am new to android and need to know the step by step process of root. Like unlocking boot loader is the first step, second step ?? and so on.. Please give the step by step flow from scratch.
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You want this which has links to loads of info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
And this looks like it will be helpful for getting help from people: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
I think it's really worth looking at all the different Nexus 4 subforums and reading the main threads, pretty much everything is covered. And if you don't understand something, if you post in the correct thread people will help you out with what you need.
Nexus 4 is my first android, coming after 4+ years of iPhone. I am blown away so far! And this forum is an amazing resource too :good:
I am flabbergasted to see the amount of people who have started their Andriod journey with N4.
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Feel free to contact me as well if you need to! Also don't be afraid to ask questions, just be sure to use the search function
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Thank you all who r willing to help. And TBO, I loved the way how nicely you expressed your gesture of helping. Rarely we get to see that on XDA.
I do not plan to root the device as honestly I dont know the ABC of rooting ATM. So I will read read and read when i get time and if stuck somewhere, i will ask someone to help and then move on.
zephiK said:
Oh yeah! How could I forget. Unlock your bootloader manually DAY ONE, even if you don't decide to root.
Why? When you unlock your bootloader, it will wipe your phone's internals and data. So you might as well do it right away so if u do decide to tinker with your phone, you can always back up everything and make your transition very easy to do.
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Buddy, by wiping the phone's internals & data, you mean it will free up some more space for us to use.. right?
s2046 said:
You want this which has links to loads of info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
And this looks like it will be helpful for getting help from people: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
I think it's really worth looking at all the different Nexus 4 subforums and reading the main threads, pretty much everything is covered. And if you don't understand something, if you post in the correct thread people will help you out with what you need.
Nexus 4 is my first android, coming after 4+ years of iPhone. I am blown away so far! And this forum is an amazing resource too :good:
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Was just checking these links.. Very very useful. Thanks.
im also a little surprised about how many nexus 4 owners are new to android. i mean all of us android veterans know that its the best android phone right now, most people just coming in to android opt for easier to come by androids like the one x or the gs3, mainly because they dont know what to look for. for those just getting into android, you made the right choice!
my advice to you from hundreds of times flashing, wiping, restoring, and resetting my phones on various roms: go crazy now. try all of the different customizations, launchers, browsers, and all that. remember what you like and what seems to slow the phone down, drain the battery, or save battery and speed it up. once you have figured all this out, wipe it and start fresh, maybe try a custom rom and kernel if you want. put back the stuff you like. after you get bored, do it again! at this point, ive pretty much realized the best thing for me is to just keep my phone as vanilla as possible, no 3rd party launchers, keyboards, dialers, etc, but ive tried them all! its just easier to set up that way, and ends up with a fast and seamless experience. everybodies different though, and thats the wonder of android
So my Grandmother wanted to give me a good present for Christmas this Year and She asked if I wanted a Ipad (I really didnt want anything, I was already pretty content overall) but she wouldnt let up about it so I figured that I didnt want to be like all the other drones in my School using only apple (nothing against apple but their hasnt been Change in their products in 5 years). I saw many adds for the Nexus 10 and its popularity so I thought I would give it a shot and if I was dissapointed I could return it to Amazon and once I did get it I was IN Love. The Nexus 10 seemed like my kind of thing and then I started reading these forums, which are FANTASTIC , but anyway i started to see many problems with the Tablet overall (Im running Stock, this forum scared me away from the update). 1st being that the light bleed is pretty bad and there are random artifacts flashing on the screen sometimes but that isnt too noticeable, 2nd being that Ive been having extreme wifi connection drops and problems connecting to my schools network and 3rd I find it really laggy sometimes especially when using it as a notetaker with my bluetooth keyboard. 4th the Microusb sucks I had to fiddle with it just to get a charge but I just took out plyers and fixed it and I am soon getting my godd*mb Pogo Pins that shouldve been there day 1.
Lately Ive been very Intrested in the Idea of rooting it and all of the other Jazz but the problem is, Im a bit of a noob when it comes to this, I really dont understand what cynagon mod does and what to download and the other things like 'Manta, Rasberry and all those other names in relationship to the tablet and rooting'. So overall I really Just want a better understanding and help on how i should procceed because I really dont want to screw this up. Help me out by making a guide or something to really show me which steps to take.
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A good place to start would be to read through the sticky threads in both developer sections. Read, and then read some more. It is way more beneficial to do that and start to figure it out on your own than to have someone tell you how to do it. We were all noobs at some point in time, but between reading, doing, asking questions, and failing, it all starts to come together. Nearly everyone here will help, but don't jump in the lake before you can swim.
That being said:
Nearly all the issues you have described can be helped, or eliminated, through flashing different roms and/or kernels. This is really a great device once you get to know it.
Happy reading, ask the right questions, and enjoy your Christmas present.
Oh yah, don't forget to read some more.
Good luck.
OH can you also explain the relationship between a unlocked bootloader and rooting and flashing a thingy mo bobber
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"Rooting" allows you to use certain programs which access the "root" of your file system, like Titanium Backup to backup your apps.
"Unlocking your bootloader" allows you to replace the stock OS (ROM) with any custom ROM you download (like cyanogenmod) which is "flashing"
As Trickster suggested, I would start by reading thru some of the posts in this sticky.
Manta = Mantaray, which is Google's developement name for the Nexus 10.
Rasbean jelly = a version of a Rom. You can see the names of roms, kernels, etc. In the name of the thread.
Cyanogen Mod = a "brand" of Rom, based off of aosp, with there own tweaks included, which make it different from stock. This one Rom is then ported to work with many different devices, in a nutshell.
Okay finnally finished the rooting process with wugs but what now
I just need to figure out the things and roms i need to download after the root
Hello guys,
I just joined the NOTE 3 community, [SM-9005] model. I am really excited about the device it's such a beast.
Now I wanna root my phone and install an awesome custom ROM. I am very confused with 3 of the ROMS on here.
1.Crash ROM
2.Echoe ROM
3.X-Note ROM
They all sound sweet and highly customizable which is what I am looking for. I am looking for a ROM that makes my phone even more beast-mode
as well as increase my battery's lifetime and an overall performance upgrade.
Beast-Mode :- Even more powerful and can handle anything you can throw at it.
Note 1: If anyone could provide more information about rooting and installing a custom recovery that would be great because I am still too confused with the KNOX and all the weird stuff on this phone.
Note 2: Please don't ruin my fun by asking me to search for other posts. Had I found what I was looking for I wouldn't have wasted my time typing this.
Note 3: To that life saver that will give me the answer of my dreams. THANK YOU!
Ruining your fun. Such is life. Every single one of your questions can be found by searching. Everyone else manages it.
Why do i even bother, but, I said it before, and i say it again, i hate lazy noobs. Wtf, the Note 3 is now half a year old, there are millions of threads describing what you want. Google is your friend.
Sent from my N9005
Dejan Sathanas said:
Why do i even bother, but, I said it before, and i say it again, i hate lazy noobs. Wtf, the Note 3 is now half a year old, there are millions of threads describing what you want. Google is your friend.
Sent from my N9005
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I feel just like the OP, I have spent a long time reading and googling by now, and it is still not clear to me how to go about rooting and flashing custom Roms, and this is having a lot of experience rooting and flashing Roms with Odin during the past 4, 5 years or more since I had the Galaxy S.
There are a lot of threads and posts, as usual, and an up2date summary is really needed in the Note 3 subforum.
This isn't about lazyness, I love modifying my devices and I am happy to spend a full weekend reading, googling and figuring it out, but with this device right now, especially with the Knox issue, it is going to take much more than 2 days to get this right and well some people do have real life to deal with, too.
1. You root you will trip Knox... Period...
2. CF-Autoroot is easiest - ODIN Flash. Make sure it is the latest and supports Kitkat
3. Install CWM or TWRP. I prefer CWM because that's what I'm used to. CWM 4.0.4.7 for Kitkat - ODIN Flash.
4. Copy rom file to sd card - external preferably, go to recovery and flash. It will take a little while to reboot for 1st boot bu shouldn't be more than around 10 minutes...
I like Androidnow, older rom but battery life is AWESOME... You can also flash the OTA updates for theming options to be included in settings....
MrWil said:
I feel just like the OP, I have spent a long time reading and googling by now, and it is still not clear to me how to go about rooting and flashing custom Roms, and this is having a lot of experience rooting and flashing Roms with Odin during the past 4, 5 years or more since I had the Galaxy S.
There are a lot of threads and posts, as usual, and an up2date summary is really needed in the Note 3 subforum.
This isn't about lazyness, I love modifying my devices and I am happy to spend a full weekend reading, googling and figuring it out, but with this device right now, especially with the Knox issue, it is going to take much more than 2 days to get this right and well some people do have real life to deal with, too.
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I also feel like you guys, I've been googling my butt off (that sounds wrong) and I'm still confused about some things. I feel like this note 3 subforum needs more stickies which would cancel the need for noob questions from people like me.
Good morning XDA Community! I have been out of the community for a long time because of school, so you will have to excuse me for being a bit rusty. Recently, I have purchased a new phone, just waiting for it to come in the mail. Once I get that phone, I was going to hand my Note 3 over to my Father. My question though, is after rooting it and flashing a ROM, I do not seem to remember the appropriate way to restore it back to its original state so I can give it to my Dad. I am on Android Version: 4.2, Build: JasmineROM v2.4.1. I understand that this may be an easy fix for some, but I really don't remember much about all of this from my long time away. I would really be grateful if someone could write me through the process so I don't harm my phone. Thank you all for your time, and have a great day!