Root N4. (Little Scared) - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Alright guys. I have been doing a lot of reading as of late about rooting my wonderful N4. Its prob the best phone I have ever had.
Reason I am scared is I am a little confused on the whole unlock bootloader and what not.
I had a S2 which was easy to root plug in Odin and away we went. I was hoping this would be much the same. I read the guide you have up and its very helpful. My problem is I am new to it really.
The reason I want to root is I want to try the custom ROM PIE as it looks sexy. So any good tips on the rooting process. How safe is rooting.
Sent From The Future.

Download the toolkit for the mako aka nexus 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
Watch the video first, install the drivers, and then follow the instructions in the video/thread. It can't get as easy as the dev who created the toolkit.
Don't a pansy about rooting, be confident; You're not going to break it. Soft-Brick maybe, but one can easily fix that.

ismethajametovic said:
Download the toolkit for the mako aka nexus 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
Watch the video first, install the drivers, and then follow the instructions in the video/thread. It can't get as easy as the dev who created the toolkit.
Don't a pansy about rooting, be confident; You're not going to break it. Soft-Brick maybe, but one can easily fix that.
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Thank you dude. I'll look into it. I shall man up. Have you used pie custom ROM.
Sent From The Future.

Do. Not. Use. Toolkits.
Go through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312. All of it. Learn something that you can always use.
(click on the thanks button instead of saying thanks. People luv that in here. You will too, eventually. )

What the difference between what you posted and tool kits.
Sent From The Future.

JknRich said:
What the difference between what you posted and tool kits.
Sent From The Future.
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Learn how to use fastboot. Learn how to practically "hack" your phone so you can go back and correct things when they go wrong.
Toolkits are fine until you get stuck. But then you have no clue why & more importantly how to fix it.
Trust me, follow efrant's guide. :thumbup:
(you have to experience the joy of "fastboot oem unlock". That's why you got a nexus device mate!! )

Vangelis13 said:
Learn how to use fastboot. Learn how to practically "hack" your phone so you can go back and correct things when they go wrong.
Toolkits are fine until you get stuck. But then you have no clue why & more importantly how to fix it.
Trust me, follow efrant's guide. :thumbup:
(you have to experience the joy of "fastboot oem unlock". That's why you got a nexus device mate!! )
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What is fastboot OEM unlock. Sounds like a STD Lol. I have to admit its the best android phone I have had.
So rooting is my next step. Feel like its a massive jump.
Sent From The Future.

JknRich said:
What the difference between what you posted and tool kits.
Sent From The Future.
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difference is that you you dont learn anything from using a toolkit. so when it comes down to an easy fix for something, or some easy maintenance, you wont soft brick your device and wont start one of the "i bricked my device" threads. plus root toolkits can come with their own issues. it comes down to root toolkits are fine, if you already know what you are doing. but for someone new they should never be recommended. learning fastboot is easy, itll just take a little extra reading. in reality, using fastboot is faster then a root toolkit too, once you learn. this is all thats needed to do to unlock/root via fastboot.. type fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash either the su binaries or a custom rom in your new recovery, then reboot and profit.

lol I used toolkit and had no probs.
At least till I tried to reset it but then I learnt how to fastboot. So I'd recommend that you set up toolkit and fastboot. You might use the toolkit, but if you "break" something you can easily fix it with fastboot.
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simms22 said:
difference is that you you dont learn anything from using a toolkit. so when it comes down to an easy fix for something, or some easy maintenance, you wont soft brick your device and wont start one of the "i bricked my device" threads. plus root toolkits can come with their own issues. it comes down to root toolkits are fine, if you already know what you are doing. but for someone new they should never be recommended. learning fastboot is easy, itll just take a little extra reading. in reality, using fastboot is faster then a root toolkit too, once you learn. this is all thats needed to do to unlock/root via fastboot.. type fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash either the su binaries or a custom rom in your new recovery, then reboot and profit.
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Ok I best get reading.
I have always loved playing about with my phone so a bit more reading won't hurt.
Has rooting your device benefited you.
Sent From The Future.

JknRich said:
Ok I best get reading.
I have always loved playing about with my phone so a bit more reading won't hurt.
Has rooting your device benefited you.
Sent From The Future.
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it absolutely has, i have full control of my device.
the scariest things about rooting/modifying words used, the terminology. once you pass that stage, everything gets much easier.

I tried the fast boot way but could never get cmd to function. So I gave up because I couldn't find a solution anywhere. You guys just inspired me to try again. Gonna return my phone to stock and start over. Thank you.
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simms22 said:
difference is that you you dont learn anything from using a toolkit. so when it comes down to an easy fix for something, or some easy maintenance, you wont soft brick your device and wont start one of the "i bricked my device" threads. plus root toolkits can come with their own issues. it comes down to root toolkits are fine, if you already know what you are doing. but for someone new they should never be recommended. learning fastboot is easy, itll just take a little extra reading. in reality, using fastboot is faster then a root toolkit too, once you learn. this is all thats needed to do to unlock/root via fastboot.. type fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash either the su binaries or a custom rom in your new recovery, then reboot and profit.
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Jammol said:
I tried the fast boot way but could never get cmd to function. So I gave up because I couldn't find a solution anywhere. You guys just inspired me to try again. Gonna return my phone to stock and start over. Thank you.
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Make sure you start in the same folder as your fastboot files. :thumbup:
Follow efrant's guide, it's gold.

i would avoid toolkits as you dont know what commands are being sent to your phone, im not saying they are not safe but you want to know what you are doing.i got stuck at selecting device version and build (step 1 lol) fast boot is easier.
i followed this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993331
just learn about fast boot and cmd commands if you need to.
you gotta root at xda, underclocking and changing the dpi to make full use of the resolution, battery life increased having it maxed at a lower clock, i wouldn't of brought the nexus to stay on stock
i cant wait to travel next month with my phone, i remember my S2 could only last 1 day but this nexus is 3 times more efficient

ismethajametovic said:
Download the toolkit for the mako aka nexus 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
Watch the video first, install the drivers, and then follow the instructions in the video/thread. It can't get as easy as the dev who created the toolkit.
Don't a pansy about rooting, be confident; You're not going to break it. Soft-Brick maybe, but one can easily fix that.
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This is such bad advice. How should he expect to be confident when he doesn't know what the toolkit is even doing?
Read up on how to use fastboot and ADB and do it manually, because if you just use the toolkit and something happens, how do you expect to fix it?

JknRich said:
What is fastboot OEM unlock. Sounds like a STD Lol. I have to admit its the best android phone I have had.
So rooting is my next step. Feel like its a massive jump.
Sent From The Future.
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You see!? You have a Nexus, marvel of technology, and you don't know the mother of all fastboot commands..!!
I hope you are reading that guide I linked you up with already..

joshnichols189 said:
This is such bad advice. How should he expect to be confident when he doesn't know what the toolkit is even doing?
Read up on how to use fastboot and ADB and do it manually, because if you just use the toolkit and something happens, how do you expect to fix it?
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QFT

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QFT
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Quite Fckng True..?

"fastboot oem unlock" was a gift from google to the moding community. it gave us the choice of unlocking our bootloaders without any potentially dangerous hacking. its a simple three word line that you type into the command window(fastboot) which then prompts us on the device with a simple yes/no question.. do you want to unlock tge bootloader. it started on the nexus one and continues with every nexus that followed. this separates nexus devices from all others.

simms22 said:
"fastboot oem unlock" was a gift from google to the moding community. it gave us the choice of unlocking our bootloaders without any potentially dangerous hacking. its a simple three word line that you type into the command window(fastboot) which then prompts us on the device with a simple yes/no question.. do you want to unlock tge bootloader. it started on the nexus one and continues with every nexus that followed. this separates nexus devices from all others.
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You're taking away the magic. He was meant to be awed when he came to that point in efrant's guide. Ts ts, Dr Dr.. :banghead:

Related

How easy is it to root nexus 7?

Hello Everyone,
I am thinking about buying the nexus 7, however I only want to do so to root it.
I have rooted my HTC Incredible and my Kindle Fire, both of those were pretty easy to root.
Is the nexus 7 just as easy?
I have done some looking around I know there is a utility for the nexus 7 similar to the one for the kindle fire.
I have some experience with rooting but am definitely not an expert.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thank you,
There are many ToolKits available, check the Android Development sub-forum and look for "Nexus 7 ToolKit", I'd post a link but I need 10 posts.
dont use toolkits.
without a toolkit.. fastboot oem unlock, flash a custom recovery, flash a custom rom or the su binaries, reboot, and profit. thats all. never any need for a root toolkit on any nexus device.
Your be wise to listen to the senior member than the junior member who uses toolkits. :thumbup:
Especially since he has a similar thread askmg the same thing.
Sent From My N7 via White Tapatalk
simms22 said:
dont use toolkits.
without a toolkit.. fastboot oem unlock, flash a custom recovery, flash a custom rom or the su binaries, reboot, and profit. thats all. never any need for a root toolkit on any nexus device.
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But doesnt that mean that I will have to run commands?
I am intimidated by commands
ÜBER™ said:
Your be wise to listen to the senior member than the junior member who uses toolkits. :thumbup:
Especially since he has a similar thread askmg the same thing.
Sent From My N7 via White Tapatalk
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Thanks for that info, I didn't know. I just explained that Toolkits are available if he chooses to use them. After all, he asked how easy is it to root.
Beeg Boy said:
But doesnt that mean that I will have to run commands?
I am intimidated by commands
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1st command.. fastboot oem unlock(this unlocks your bootloader)
2nd command.. fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img
then use the recovery to flash what you want, a custom rom(it has root) or the su binaries
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CJHolderUK said:
Thanks for that info, I didn't know. I just explained that Toolkits are available if he chooses to use them. After all, he asked how easy is it to root.
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toolkits generally are easy. but its also easier to mess things up. and if you dont know what you are doing in the first place at that point, its easy to turn your device into a real brick. taking a little time to learn the right way will also save you when you mess up your device too, since its generally easy to fix things if you are semi familiar. plus, the people that make the root toolkits also mess up sometimes. so you can do everything right in a root toolkit and still mess up
simms22 said:
1st command.. fastboot oem unlock(this unlocks your bootloader)
2nd command.. fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img
then use the recovery to flash what you want, a custom rom(it has root) or the su binaries
That does sound pretty easy.
I am going to come to you for help when I get my G7
I keep reading people's posts about their G7 C90 and other numbers, are they talking about serial numbers?
Are we able to look at the package and identify by the serial number when it was made?
So, if we look for a newer serial number we wont run into some of the QA issues people are having?
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Beeg Boy said:
simms22 said:
1st command.. fastboot oem unlock(this unlocks your bootloader)
2nd command.. fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img
then use the recovery to flash what you want, a custom rom(it has root) or the su binaries
That does sound pretty easy.
I am going to come to you for help when I get my G7
I keep reading people's posts about their G7 C90 and other numbers, are they talking about serial numbers?
Are we able to look at the package and identify by the serial number when it was made?
So, if we look for a newer serial number we wont run into some of the QA issues people are having?
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ive got mine from an older batch, no issues here.
honestly, it doesnt make a difference to me which method you chose to root your device, its your device. im just tired of reading new threads that people have started because they messed up their devices using a root toolkit, then really messed it up trying to fix it(because they didnt know how). yea, helping them increases my thanks and post counts, but id rather they didnt need that help to begin with :silly:
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simms22 said:
Beeg Boy said:
ive got mine from an older batch, no issues here.
honestly, it doesnt make a difference to me which method you chose to root your device, its your device. im just tired of reading new threads that people have started because they messed up their devices using a root toolkit, then really messed it up trying to fix it(because they didnt know how). yea, helping them increases my thanks and post counts, but id rather they didnt need that help to begin with :silly:
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What do I need installed on my PC to run the command?
Anything in particular? Or do I just pull up a command line and run it?
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Beeg Boy said:
simms22 said:
What do I need installed on my PC to run the command?
Anything in particular? Or do I just pull up a command line and run it?
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adb/fastboot. this works, its not the most recent but has all that you need. adb for dummies(both adb and fastboot are included) http://www.mediafire.com/?qrjo6bi8ayblj1r
and the driver for your device. when i plugged my device in via usb while it was in tbe bootloader, the android driver installed all by itself(windows7).
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Beeg Boy said:
adb/fastboot. this works, its not the most recent but has all that you need. adb for dummies(both adb and fastboot are included) http://www.mediafire.com/?qrjo6bi8ayblj1r
and the driver for your device. when i plugged my device in via usb while it was in tbe bootloader, the android driver installed all by itself(windows7).
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Cool, thanks for the info.
I installed ADB when I rooted my Kindle Fire, will that work or do I need the file you posted?
I am hoping to get a G7 within the next few weeks.
I hope you are down for helping me should I decide not to use a tool kit.
Thanks for your help.
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Beeg Boy said:
Cool, thanks for the info.
I installed ADB when I rooted my Kindle Fire, will that work or do I need the file you posted?
I am hoping to get a G7 within the next few weeks.
I hope you are down for helping me should I decide not to use a tool kit.
Thanks for your help.
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na, if you have adb and fastboot then you dont need the file i posted. let me know when/if you need help
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na, if you have adb and fastboot then you dont need the file i posted. let me know when/if you need help
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Will do
So, just out of curiosity, is it possible to root any android device using command lines?
I was thinking of buying an off brand android tablet on eBay just to tinker with.
Can I use commands to root that as well?
Beeg Boy said:
Will do
So, just out of curiosity, is it possible to root any android device using command lines?
I was thinking of buying an off brand android tablet on eBay just to tinker with.
Can I use commands to root that as well?
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well, the "fastboot oem unlock" is only for nexus devices. google made it easy to unlock the bootloader of any nexus, they made it an option. once you enter that line, you will have a popup on that device that explains that you will lose whatever data, then you press either yes or no. also, you can relock any nexus device with "fastboot oem lock"
I used a toolkit and didn't mess anything up. Took me 30 mins from getting it out o the box.
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Mannn121 said:
I used a toolkit and didn't mess anything up. Took me 30 mins from getting it out o the box.
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absolutely, most wont mess anything up, but many will. took me 4 minutes without a toolkit though

Question about the toolkit

Hello N7 community, I had a question about the boot loader toolkit vs doing everything manually. This is my first nexus device and so far I'm loving it but I want to root it and from what I've read the boot loader has to be unlocked first similar to HTC devices, I did a Google search and came up with two links to AC one was a one click toolkit and the other was instructions for the SDK method. I havent done much with SDK but can easily read and figure it out but if the toolkit is reliable I'd rather go that route since I'm a firm believer I'm work smarter not harder lol. So my question is, is the toolkit a reliable way to unlock the boot loader and root the N7 or should I figure out the SDK method? I have the N73g running 4.2.1 if it makes a difference
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dmonger11b said:
Hello N7 community, I had a question about the boot loader toolkit vs doing everything manually. This is my first nexus device and so far I'm loving it but I want to root it and from what I've read the boot loader has to be unlocked first similar to HTC devices, I did a Google search and came up with two links to AC one was a one click toolkit and the other was instructions for the SDK method. I havent done much with SDK but can easily read and figure it out but if the toolkit is reliable I'd rather go that route since I'm a firm believer I'm work smarter not harder lol. So my question is, is the toolkit a reliable way to unlock the boot loader and root the N7 or should I figure out the SDK method? I have the N73g running 4.2.1 if it makes a difference
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the best way to do it is also the right way, via fastboot. google made it easy to unlock the bootloader and root any nexus device(the method is the same for all nexii). there are links here that explain it, but this is it in a nutshell.. fastboot OEM devices(these three words unlock the bootloader), fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash either the su binaries or any custom ROM in your new recovery, reboot. that's all, easy. you can use a root toolkit, but you won't learn the basic processes needed for solving issues later on. I've seen people ruin their devices trying to resolve an issue that could have been resolved easily with some basic knowledge. also, read the forums, you'll notice how many threads there are with issues that include the words "I used a toolkit", you wont find any that use the words "I used fastboot". also, occasionally, these root toolkits create their own issues.
I appreciate the response but I've learned over the years of fiddling with my phones and time spent on xda that most of the "I bricked my phone" threads are people being careless. I'll look into doing everything through adb. Seems very similar to how the Sprint OG Evo was done.
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dmonger11b said:
I appreciate the response but I've learned over the years of fiddling with my phones and time spent on xda that most of the "I bricked my phone" threads are people being careless. I'll look into doing everything through adb. Seems very similar to how the Sprint OG Evo was done.
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if you know adb, fastboot will be very easy for you. you'll need it to unlock the bootloader at least, everything else can be done via adb. the all important line and the gift that google gave us.. fastboot oem unlock.

[Q] the ultimate way to kill a Nexus 7

I'm an idiot. In Some mysterious way, I managed to kill my Nexus 7.
I've tried everything I can thing of to make the bloody thing work again. This is the closest I've come.
screencast.com/t/QoEOgOAAuy
What I did then was to follow this guide to get it back on track.
forums.androidcentral.com/nexus-7-rooting-roms-hacks/191477-guide-nexus-7-factory-image-restore.html
Before that, I've tried to use Nexus 7 Toolkit as well as Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit.
As you can imagine, I'm close to giving up. Any suggestions by the pro's in here are happily received.
Cheers
jacobsthlm said:
I'm an idiot. In Some mysterious way, I managed to kill my Nexus 7.
I've tried everything I can thing of to make the bloody thing work again. This is the closest I've come.
screencast.com/t/QoEOgOAAuy
What I did then was to follow this guide to get it back on track.
forums.androidcentral.com/nexus-7-rooting-roms-hacks/191477-guide-nexus-7-factory-image-restore.html
Before that, I've tried to use Nexus 7 Toolkit as well as Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit.
As you can imagine, I'm close to giving up. Any suggestions by the pro's in here are happily received.
Cheers
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dont use toolkits. root the device the right way, via fastboot. notice how there are many threads here on xda about people messing up their devices? notice how they all mention that a root toolkit was used? rooting is very easy the right way, just do a little reading about it, familiarize yourself with the terms and process.
simms22 said:
dont use toolkits. root the device the right way, via fastboot. notice how there are many threads here on xda about people messing up their devices? notice how they all mention that a root toolkit was used? rooting is very easy the right way, just do a little reading about it, familiarize yourself with the terms and process.
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And with nexus devices it's like done in less than 5 minutes... I've learned it myself and its really easy to keep all the commands in mind (;
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I didn't try to root it with the toolkits, I just tried to restore it with them since no manual method seem to work.
i just noticed your screenshot. why did you erase EVERYTHING?
you tried these instructions? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
If you Did not erase the bootloader then it can easily Be resolved.if you have erased the Bootloader as well then nothing can be done.
"fastboot update" takes a ZIP archive, you are giving it the system.img raw-image file - this can't work.
Either use "fastboot update update.zip" with the ZIP (!) file from the factory image, or flash the seperate raw-images seperately with "fastboot flash <partition-name> <image-file-name>"

[Q] Asus Google Nexus 7 Toolkit v4.0.0 - I just want to root and nothing else

Hi all,
After deeply snorkeling in the whole forum I ended up realizing that (perhaps) there's no answer for my question. So, I think now I'm able to post it here (since I'm so new in this forum that I'm not able to post in Development thread).
Ok, here is my issue:
I recently got my brand new N716G (JB 4.2.1), so far so good it has everything I need, except by game playing experience in some games: using a touch screen for playing some games is really anoying... The good news is that my gamming experience could be improved a little bit if I use my PS3 joystick, but again I got frustrated by the (again) anoying USB cable... I didn't give up and continued my journey to joy, by doing some extra research. I ended up finding a really nice tool on google play: "sixaxis controller" but it is required to root my device in order to run this software in my N7.
Since I just want to root my N7 in order to allow "sixaxis controller" to work, I need something really simple.
I've found that "Asus google Nexus 7 Toolkit" from mskip could help me on this but I've to be honest: I've never rooted an android device before.
Of course, I read almost the whole thread (link) in order to learn what I'm going to do and now I'm pretty sure that I really need to root my tablet but I'm not interested (at least now) on putting a custom ROM nor tweak any configuration. Also, I want to keep my tablet stil able to keep updating by itself whenever a new android version is coming (OTA) after rooting it (I know I'd need to re root after OTA but I might avoid that by installing another tool from google play that avoids that).
So, by using that tool I guess I would need to perform the following steps:
a) 1. Install Google Nexus drivers on your PC
b) 2. Back up your device
c) 3. Unlock your loader
d) 4. Root your device
e) 4.2. Root device + Install busybox
f) 2. Restore backup
Steps a) and b) are done. I didn't continue because I don't know if there's something else I've to do... Do I really need to flash a recovery? How should I continue? In my specific case, what sequence should I have to follow in order to succeed? Just a,b,c,d,e,f and that's all?
I know there's a "1-click for all" option but I don't know if that will fit my needs...
By the way, thanks for reading up to here and many thanks in advance... For sure, any help or tip will be highly appreciated.
Nico.
easiest way to gain root, and without a toolkit.. fastboot oem unlock(unlocks the bootloader), fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash the su binaries in that custom recovery, reboot.
simms22 said:
easiest way to gain root, and without a toolkit.. fastboot oem unlock(unlocks the bootloader), fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash the su binaries in that custom recovery, reboot.
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Hi simms22,
thank you for your reply!
Sorry but I don't understand. Do you mean that I can root my N7 manually by fastboot it and then flash a custom recovery? How?
I'd rather let an application (or script) to perform such actions for me since I'm really new on this and I just want to avoid any brick
Thanks again!
Nico.
IlNiCoLiNo said:
Hi simms22,
thank you for your reply!
Sorry but I don't understand. Do you mean that I can root my N7 manually by fastboot it and then flash a custom recovery? How?
I'd rather let an application (or script) to perform such actions for me since I'm really new on this and I just want to avoid any brick
Thanks again!
Nico.
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thats the problem, since youre new. by letting something else do it for you, you learn nothing. so when it comes time for simple maintenance, you get stuck, possibly ruining your device. rooting any nexus is easy, it was designed to be easily "rooted". all you need is to install fastboot onto your computer, and make sure the drivers are installed. there are a few threads here that explain how to do it. then, with one line(three words), you unlock the bootloader. with another four word line you flash the recovery. then all youndo is flash the su binaries zip imnthat custom recovery and reboot. anyways, it still comes down to it being your choice how you want to root your device
Agree with simms. I used a toolkit when I first got my Nexus because I thought there's no way I'll be able to figure it out and I'll probably brick the thing. Then when I had to figure out how to use adb for something else I had no idea and was starting from scratch.
Basically, go ahead, it's easy.
+1 for no toolkit. My first rooting experience was on my HTC IncS which involved downgrading HBOOT, doing everything manually, and the like. I'm glad that was the case as it certainly provided me a challenge at the time but it forced me to learn at least the basics of adb and fastboot. (although I certainly know more now) You should try to gain root manually as it is actually very easy on the Nexus 7 and the basic knowledge you will gain will stand you in good stead if you ever have any problems or want to delve into custom ROMs or kernels in the future.
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thats the problem, since youre new. by letting something else do it for you, you learn nothing. so when it comes time for simple maintenance, you get stuck, possibly ruining your device. rooting any nexus is easy, it was designed to be easily "rooted". all you need is to install fastboot onto your computer, and make sure the drivers are installed. there are a few threads here that explain how to do it. then, with one line(three words), you unlock the bootloader. with another four word line you flash the recovery. then all youndo is flash the su binaries zip imnthat custom recovery and reboot. anyways, it still comes down to it being your choice how you want to root your device
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You're right. I guess I'll give that tool a try and see what happens.
Thank you for your patience!
Nico
I'm going to throw one thing out there. If you install super user and busy box THEN restore a backup, all you have done is unlocked your boot loader and flashed custom recovery. Install super user/busy box after you restore your backup. Also, you posted in the right section. If you had posted this in development you would have been flamed. Big time.
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I think there are some basics that I must learn before even rise an opinion here
Is there any tutorial or something you'd recommend to start with?
I don't know, may be "android rooting for noobs" or "teach yourself android basics in 21 days"
Thanks!
Nico.
As a fellow noob, I thought you'd appreciate a simpler answer. I'd like to learn more but it can be confusing having all these different methods to consider. I've just unlocked the bootloader and rooted the device using the toolkit. You can go ahead with steps c, d, e & f Nico. You don't need to install a custom recovery unless you plan on flashing a custom rom. I'm sticking with the official OTA updates for now so I've stuck with the stock recovery.
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For future reference read all these links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070419
Used wugfresh toolkit with not one single problem and its simple...in fact I even rooted my galaxy nexus with the same toolkit.
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FlexiPack said:
As a fellow noob, I thought you'd appreciate a simpler answer. I'd like to learn more but it can be confusing having all these different methods to consider. I've just unlocked the bootloader and rooted the device using the toolkit. You can go ahead with steps c, d, e & f Nico. You don't need to install a custom recovery unless you plan on flashing a custom rom. I'm sticking with the official OTA updates for now so I've stuck with the stock recovery.
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Thank you, FlexiPack! You really made my day with your reply.
Regarding the back up, I was not able to back up the virtual SD from the back up menu (0 files were backed up) but I did a complete applications backup (including system files and SD card). I don't know what was the difference but at the end, the .bak file was noticeably bigger. Hence I assumed that in fact all SD contents were backed up.
How was your experience with the backup option and after restoring your data? Did you lost something?
Again, thank you!
Nico.
Hello there guys, I too am a utter android noob and this my my first android device. I'm basicly in the same boat as the poster, all I want to do is root. No custom ROM and flashing of any sort. All I want to accomplish is root to enable USB OTG.
I know there are apps that enable reading such as Nexus media importer but I want to be able to read and write data to external storage via USB (Flas drives, external hard drives and cameras and the sort)
What I've discovered the first big step (after installing drivers and the lot - which is all rather simple) is to unlock the bootloader if I'm correct? But in this process the device will format? I honestly dont want to format my device. I'm totally confused and put off by the whole process.
Another question, what is a good backup program to use - of course for unrooted devices.
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smartass145 said:
Hello there guys, I too am a utter android noob and this my my first android device. I'm basicly in the same boat as the poster, all I want to do is root. No custom ROM and flashing of any sort. All I want to accomplish is root to enable USB OTG.
I know there are apps that enable reading such as Nexus media importer but I want to be able to read and write data to external storage via USB (Flas drives, external hard drives and cameras and the sort)
What I've discovered the first big step (after installing drivers and the lot - which is all rather simple) is to unlock the bootloader if I'm correct? But in this process the device will format? I honestly dont want to format my device. I'm totally confused and put off by the whole process.
Another question, what is a good backup program to use - of course for unrooted devices.
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Toolkit you can backup the whole thing to your comp
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VonEsch said:
Toolkit you can backup the whole thing to your comp
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Alright, and formatting to unlock the bootloader?
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This is kind of a rant but applies here: Don't be afraid to unlock, install custom recoveries, and root.
I hear so many people say, "I just want to be stock... but I want all these features". I can't understand why people hold on to this "stock" state so dearly. It's like device virginity (and it is since you "can't" [mentally] really ever go back). There are so many features and updates that are worth enjoying today. At least, a custom recovery is critical for backups.
I understand this stuff isn't for everybody... but if you are reading this, you aren't grouped with everybody.
player911 said:
This is kind of a rant but applies here: Don't be afraid to unlock, install custom recoveries, and root.
I hear so many people say, "I just want to be stock... but I want all these features". I can't understand why people hold on to this "stock" state so dearly. It's like device virginity (and it is since you "can't" [mentally] really ever go back). There are so many features and updates that are worth enjoying today. At least, a custom recovery is critical for backups.
I understand this stuff isn't for everybody... but if you are reading this, you aren't grouped with everybody.
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For me vanilla android offers me everything I need at the moment. All I want more from it at the moment is USB OTG functionality - which it has its just been locked by Google for this device.
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For all people who call themselves noobs, you really aren't cuz you now know certain things better than the average user.
Trust me, I saw a Customer buying Note 2 today, and when the sales guy told him that it's jelly bean, the retort was "what's that!!!"
And yes, all nexus devices are the easiest lot to root, unroot, unlock and then relock.
Trust me, Google and xda are your best friends.
Just remember one thing, backup before anything, you can always revert then!!!
You guys (noobs as you yourself call) have already jumped, now swim...
One most important thing, search, read, and take the plunge...
All forums have at the least one tutorial stickied!!!
As regards adb, fastboot, google, read, and trust me, you'll not be stuck for more than an hour!!!
Just my 2 cents, actually more!!
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It really is like that. But once you start you can't stop. I started by rooting my original android phone ( there were no toolkits and no problems) and ended up with two nexus devices compiling unofficial nightlies for them. I didn't even boot stock on my 7 before I flashed twrp. There's a whole world of fun if you're willing to get your feet wet. If you can stop with just root you're a stronger person than I.

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How can I re-lock boot loader, unroot and restore to factory?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
I'd suggest using the Nexus Root Toolkit. It's pretty much the most fool-proof option.
Jarret123 said:
How can I re-lock boot loader, unroot and restore to factory?
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Why bother?
Fraught said:
I'd suggest using the Nexus Root Toolkit. It's pretty much the most fool-proof option.
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the most foolproof option is knowing how to use fastboot, and doing it yourself.
tech_head said:
Why bother?
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Because I'm having calling issues so I have to return it
Manually rooting or unlocking or vice versa is stupid easy on this phone. Maybe I'm paranoid, but when it's this simple I trust my own keystrokes more than the best toolkit.
That aside, is there anything else that should be done to erase any evidence the device was rooted when returning a device? There have been on other devices and I can't find a thread confirming it either way.
Fraught said:
I'd suggest using the Nexus Root Toolkit. It's pretty much the most fool-proof option.
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No it isn't. The only fool-proof option is doing it yourself. These toolkits are known to cause problems.
Jarret123 said:
How can I re-lock boot loader, unroot and restore to factory?
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It's all in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Heisenberg said:
It's all in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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Thank you very, very much!
Soulfly3 said:
the most foolproof option is knowing how to use fastboot, and doing it yourself.
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No it isn't. The only fool-proof option is doing it yourself. These toolkits are known to cause problems.
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I don't think you guys know what "fool-proof" means. Hint hint, gathering and putting to use specialized knowledge is close to the opposite of fool-proof. A fool can press two buttons in a window and wait for a dialogue window to finish, but a fool can't use ADB and fastboot commands.
Also, I use the Nexus Root Toolkit occasionally myself, and it can handle flashing stock, unrooting, and locking the bootloader more than easily.
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I don't think you guys know what "fool-proof" means. Hint hint, gathering and putting to use specialized knowledge is close to the opposite of fool-proof. A fool can press two buttons in a window and wait for a dialogue window to finish, but a fool can't use ADB and fastboot commands.
Also, I use the Nexus Root Toolkit occasionally myself, and it can handle flashing stock, unrooting, and locking the bootloader more than easily.
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Except when it causes problems and soft bricks a phone, and this was my point. Plus, the only way to truly know for sure whether everything is going to happen as it should is by ensuring it by doing it yourself, then virtually nothing can go wrong.
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I don't think you guys know what "fool-proof" means. Hint hint, gathering and putting to use specialized knowledge is close to the opposite of fool-proof. A fool can press two buttons in a window and wait for a dialogue window to finish, but a fool can't use ADB and fastboot commands.
Also, I use the Nexus Root Toolkit occasionally myself, and it can handle flashing stock, unrooting, and locking the bootloader more than easily.
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I've seen many instances on this forum where people soft bricked and hard bricked their phones using toolkits, including NRT. A fool can press buttons and blindly hope for the best or he can follow a simple guide, learn and understand ADB and Fastboot and not be a fool anymore. It's almost impossible to brick your phone using fastboot.
The Nexus Root Toolkit (NRT) is very, very good. The only issue I had was that the USB driver that was loaded (this was loaded BEFORE installing the toolkit) was incorrect. But the Toolkit even has notes about correcting this, and those were spot-on. I would trust the NRT to unroot the phone. My guess (YMMV, no guarantees here) is that it works fine, just as it did when rooting my phone. Clearly, some care is always in order.

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