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Hi guys,
Lets share your personal reviews/first imprrssion about Xperia Z. Below is mine..
Finally I got my Xperia Z - Black Beauty.
Overall its good phone, seriously best from Sony but it could have been more better.
Anyways, I will share more details by tomorrow as I still didnt spent much time with XZ.
UPDATED:
As I am coming from Galaxy Note 2, I want to compare XZ & Note2.
Pros:
-Beautiful Design
-Waterproof
-Good Camera (Rear only)
Cons:
-Speaker position is horrible
-Poor Battery Life
-Front Camera not so good
-Overheating Issues (can tolerate as its waterproof)
-Cannot use Default Launcher with Xperia Widgets: Lags like anything
WHAT I AM MISSING COMING FROM NOTE 2:
-MultiWindow
-Large Screen
-Customizable Notification Bar
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I played with a retail model this afternoon got to take it outside to take some outdoor pics and videos.
Pics are good, video I was less than impressed they were not as sharp as pics and colours were off.
For example I took a pic of a bus at the bus stop the camera replicated with good colour accuracy whilst video made the bus a darker reddish/purple and there was loss of detail and man the slow auto focusing at times that has plagued all previous sony devices was raising it's ugly head again.
Loud speaker is hopeless in evena slightly noisy environment, audio is loud outdoors but bass could have been better.
Also the Z seriously feels a bit boxy imo.
i read in some review that camera app take 2 or 3 second to open up when it not running at background
is true?
r_you168 said:
i read in some review that camera app take 2 or 3 second to open up when it not running at background
is true?
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Yes.
Can't say more than wauw. Im very impressed by the quality and quantity of this device
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I tried an xperia z in a "3" shop recently. There was a bit of background noise from shoppers and staff talking while I tested the speaker and ringtone volume. This was enough to drown out the sound from the xperia z. Pre-order cancelled, HTC One on order. Shame as I got quite excited about this phone. Good effort though Sony. Must try harder next time!
my mini review
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38586217&postcount=355
mwatson said:
I tried an xperia z in a "3" shop recently. There was a bit of background noise from shoppers and staff talking while I tested the speaker and ringtone volume. This was enough to drown out the sound from the xperia z. Pre-order cancelled, HTC One on order. Shame as I got quite excited about this phone. Good effort though Sony. Must try harder next time!
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its a phone, what the hell are you expecting from the speaker?
Its a phone, not a boom box you fool!
samxool said:
its a phone, what the hell are you expecting from the speaker?
Its a phone, not a boom box you fool!
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The ability to hear the ringtone while out and about I imagine, hardly an unreasonable expectation or reason to be called a fool.
Im in case 5% in 5 minutes(mkv movie 3.5gb 1080p mp4 4mbps birate in bestplayer HD accelation so i was not able to finish film before i run out of juice streaming wifi) , At work i got 150mbps but at home i got 72mbps can not get 150 :silly:
except that every thing is alright I dont have any problem
ahh and manage to warm my hand to the point when they sweaty ! ) 67-70
mwatson said:
I tried an xperia z in a "3" shop recently. There was a bit of background noise from shoppers and staff talking while I tested the speaker and ringtone volume. This was enough to drown out the sound from the xperia z. Pre-order cancelled, HTC One on order. Shame as I got quite excited about this phone. Good effort though Sony. Must try harder next time!
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This is what really bothers me: low ringtone volume. I don't want to lose notifications or incoming calls because of it.
How's the vibration? Can you feel it properly if the phone is in your pocket?
TheKingOfPain said:
This is what really bothers me: low ringtone volume. I don't want to lose notifications or incoming calls because of it.
How's the vibration? Can you feel it properly if the phone is in your pocket?
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Vibration is rather strong, im yet to miss a call or text. I always have sound off on my phones.
mwatson said:
I tried an xperia z in a "3" shop recently. There was a bit of background noise from shoppers and staff talking while I tested the speaker and ringtone volume. This was enough to drown out the sound from the xperia z. Pre-order cancelled, HTC One on order. Shame as I got quite excited about this phone. Good effort though Sony. Must try harder next time!
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Seems harsh just to cancel a phone just because the ringtone wasn't loud enough. Did you even try it with the xLoud etc on?
And who really uses the sound, you really only have a use for it when the phone is somewhere else but your pocket. (which is where it should be)
Either way. See ya.
I just finished up my review today.
http://geektech.ie/index.php/review-sony-xperia-z/
This is NOT good !!!
Battery draining like anything
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xperiax10.awesome said:
This is NOT good !!!
Battery draining like anything
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Give it a chance too settle, after about 4-5 full charges; battery will reach full working capacity and also Rom will have built up dalvic cache. So you will certainly get better performance after a few days use.
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My first impression were very good: I posted them in many threads here.
Though I have some new info:
- Battery lasted for 11h42m yesterday, standby time. Screen on time: 3h22m (auto brightness). I have screenshots to back it up. I was always connected to wifi or mobile network. I didn't play games, mostly chatting, facebook, some youtube videos, listned to some music and internet browsing. It's not horrible, but not very good either. I got home with 1% left at 23:00 in the evening.
Today, I had worse results. Mostly at home all day, so wifi. Had a total of sub 3hours of screenon time! This is already my third charging cycle so I don't expect things to get any better. At the moment I am not impressed by the battery life of the XZ, but it's not horrible either.
- Phone's size and design: beautiful, though it's already not so "WOW" anymore (got used to it I guess). The phone atracts a lot of duts and fingerprints. But what I am starting to see is that the XZ is not so good looking at ergonomic aspects! It just doesn't feel nice in my hand because it isn't curved at the sides/back. I picked up my S3 again today and wow, it felt like a total different kind of thing. It was so comfortable in my hand compared to the XZ, while the S3 is almost as big as the XZ. And because the S3 has no onscreen buttons, the screen actually showed more info then the XZ.
- Screen: I'm getting more and more used to it, it looks really nice and sharp. Viewing angles are starting to bother me less and less, but sometimes I still see them.
- Speaker quality: seems very loud, but quality wise it seems bad. And I cover it up with my right hand a lot without wanting too.
I'm thinking about returning the XZ.... yeah. Didn't expect it myself. But the main problem is: it doesn't feel like a big leap from my S3. So basicly, I bought a new phone (the XZ) which feels much worse in my hand (ergnomic wise, it's not comfortable) then my S3, the screen is bigger but I actually see less content on it because of the software buttons, and while the screen is sharper a bit the viewing angles and contrast are worse. It also isn't a lot faster then my S3, it doens't do anything my S3 couldn't till now (yes HDR video, I tried it once and that's it).
My biggest problem is the size and design: without the curved sides/back the phone is hard to use for me with one hand. Really didn't expect this. This together with what I said above, make me consider returning the XZ and wait for a few more months. I saw (again) an article on a big Ducht newssite about the XZ's succesor and that it will come in summer 2013. It should have a 1080p 4.8 screen and the S600 chipset. This off course also doens't really help my feeling of returning the XZ...
I still have till next week to think about my XZ, but I might return it. No offence to Sony, the XZ is really a good phone, but the fact that I can't use it comfortable in my hand is something important to me. I do have small hands, but I can use the S3 perfectly and the XZ not so much.
EDIT: The other problem is, there isn't anything at the moment which I would consider buying. I have looked again at the HTC One and still don't want it. Maybe I will return my XZ and wait for Samsung to reveal the S4 and hope that it's build quality/design is a step up from the S3. If not, I can get the XZ (or the succesor of the XZ) beginning of the summer. Really bummed out..
XDA mark said:
My first impression were very good: I posted them in many threads here.
Though I have some new info:
- Battery lasted for 11h42m yesterday, standby time. Screen on time: 3h22m (auto brightness). I have screenshots to back it up. I was always connected to wifi or mobile network. I didn't play games, mostly chatting, facebook, some youtube videos, listned to some music and internet browsing. It's not horrible, but not very good either. I got home with 1% left at 23:00 in the evening.
Today, I had worse results. Mostly at home all day, so wifi. Had a total of sub 3hours of screenon time! This is already my third charging cycle so I don't expect things to get any better. At the moment I am not impressed by the battery life of the XZ, but it's not horrible either.
- Phone's size and design: beautiful, though it's already not so "WOW" anymore (got used to it I guess). The phone atracts a lot of duts and fingerprints. But what I am starting to see is that the XZ is not so good looking at ergonomic aspects! It just doesn't feel nice in my hand because it isn't curved at the sides/back. I picked up my S3 again today and wow, it felt like a total different kind of thing. It was so comfortable in my hand compared to the XZ, while the S3 is almost as big as the XZ. And because the S3 has no onscreen buttons, the screen actually showed more info then the XZ.
- Screen: I'm getting more and more used to it, it looks really nice and sharp. Viewing angles are starting to bother me less and less, but sometimes I still see them.
- Speaker quality: seems very loud, but quality wise it seems bad. And I cover it up with my right hand a lot without wanting too.
I'm thinking about returning the XZ.... yeah. Didn't expect it myself. But the main problem is: it doesn't feel like a big leap from my S3. So basicly, I bought a new phone (the XZ) which feels much worse in my hand (ergnomic wise, it's not comfortable) then my S3, the screen is bigger but I actually see less content on it because of the software buttons, and while the screen is sharper a bit the viewing angles and contrast are worse. It also isn't a lot faster then my S3, it doens't do anything my S3 couldn't till now (yes HDR video, I tried it once and that's it).
My biggest problem is the size and design: without the curved sides/back the phone is hard to use for me with one hand. Really didn't expect this. This together with what I said above, make me consider returning the XZ and wait for a few more months. I saw (again) an article on a big Ducht newssite about the XZ's succesor and that it will come in summer 2013. It should have a 1080p 4.8 screen and the S600 chipset. This off course also doens't really help my feeling of returning the XZ...
I still have till next week to think about my XZ, but I might return it. No offence to Sony, the XZ is really a good phone, but the fact that I can't use it comfortable in my hand is something important to me. I do have small hands, but I can use the S3 perfectly and the XZ not so much.
EDIT: The other problem is, there isn't anything at the moment which I would consider buying. I have looked again at the HTC One and still don't want it. Maybe I will return my XZ and wait for Samsung to reveal the S4 and hope that it's build quality/design is a step up from the S3. If not, I can get the XZ (or the succesor of the XZ) beginning of the summer. Really bummed out..
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Oho, than you should try ZL if it ever released soon in your country, it has smaller form factor with that curved back. Same spec of course, minus the waterproof
arcwindz said:
Oho, than you should try ZL if it ever released soon in your country, it has smaller form factor with that curved back. Same spec of course, minus the waterproof
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XDA mark said:
My first impression were very good: I posted them in many threads here.
EDIT: The other problem is, there isn't anything at the moment which I would consider buying. I have looked again at the HTC One and still don't want it. Maybe I will return my XZ and wait for Samsung to reveal the S4 and hope that it's build quality/design is a step up from the S3. If not, I can get the XZ (or the succesor of the XZ) beginning of the summer. Really bummed out..
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This is my problem exactly! I ditched my Galaxy Note 1 because I kept hearing of all the earth shattering flagships coming out. The Oppo Find 5, the Xperia Z, the HTC One. I got a Note 2, and I have the same feelings. Sure its a little faster, but I feel like I am wasting my upgrade (I know that's a uniquely USA problem) on this phone. The Note 1 could do everything nearly as well, especially with custom ROMs.
I can still return my Note 2 but I honestly don't even know what I would use instead. There is nothing that really stands out. I was holding out hope for the Nokia EOS/Lumia 1000 but who knows if that will even deliver anything new.
XDA mark said:
My first impression were very good: I posted them in many threads here.
Though I have some new info:
- Battery lasted for 11h42m yesterday, standby time. Screen on time: 3h22m (auto brightness). I have screenshots to back it up. I was always connected to wifi or mobile network. I didn't play games, mostly chatting, facebook, some youtube videos, listned to some music and internet browsing. It's not horrible, but not very good either. I got home with 1% left at 23:00 in the evening.
Today, I had worse results. Mostly at home all day, so wifi. Had a total of sub 3hours of screenon time! This is already my third charging cycle so I don't expect things to get any better. At the moment I am not impressed by the battery life of the XZ, but it's not horrible either.
- Phone's size and design: beautiful, though it's already not so "WOW" anymore (got used to it I guess). The phone atracts a lot of duts and fingerprints. But what I am starting to see is that the XZ is not so good looking at ergonomic aspects! It just doesn't feel nice in my hand because it isn't curved at the sides/back. I picked up my S3 again today and wow, it felt like a total different kind of thing. It was so comfortable in my hand compared to the XZ, while the S3 is almost as big as the XZ. And because the S3 has no onscreen buttons, the screen actually showed more info then the XZ.
- Screen: I'm getting more and more used to it, it looks really nice and sharp. Viewing angles are starting to bother me less and less, but sometimes I still see them.
- Speaker quality: seems very loud, but quality wise it seems bad. And I cover it up with my right hand a lot without wanting too.
I'm thinking about returning the XZ.... yeah. Didn't expect it myself. But the main problem is: it doesn't feel like a big leap from my S3. So basicly, I bought a new phone (the XZ) which feels much worse in my hand (ergnomic wise, it's not comfortable) then my S3, the screen is bigger but I actually see less content on it because of the software buttons, and while the screen is sharper a bit the viewing angles and contrast are worse. It also isn't a lot faster then my S3, it doens't do anything my S3 couldn't till now (yes HDR video, I tried it once and that's it).
My biggest problem is the size and design: without the curved sides/back the phone is hard to use for me with one hand. Really didn't expect this. This together with what I said above, make me consider returning the XZ and wait for a few more months. I saw (again) an article on a big Ducht newssite about the XZ's succesor and that it will come in summer 2013. It should have a 1080p 4.8 screen and the S600 chipset. This off course also doens't really help my feeling of returning the XZ...
I still have till next week to think about my XZ, but I might return it. No offence to Sony, the XZ is really a good phone, but the fact that I can't use it comfortable in my hand is something important to me. I do have small hands, but I can use the S3 perfectly and the XZ not so much.
EDIT: The other problem is, there isn't anything at the moment which I would consider buying. I have looked again at the HTC One and still don't want it. Maybe I will return my XZ and wait for Samsung to reveal the S4 and hope that it's build quality/design is a step up from the S3. If not, I can get the XZ (or the succesor of the XZ) beginning of the summer. Really bummed out..
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Personally I think it isn't worth will upgrading a high end 2012 phone, maybe if Google releases an android version that has something crazy cool and that needs a ridiculous amount of horsepower. Otherwise I think you can hang on to your phone until the end of 2014 or so
Hi folks,
Having been an owner of many HTC's, I just wanted your advice as to whether or not you think it's worth purchasing the HTC One?
I had the One X and wasn't that impressed and ended up selling it and going for the S3, which I like, despite the numerous S-Apps which I never use :/
Anyway, I'm due an upgrade and can't decide what to go for.
HTC One (looks good)
iPhone 5 (I know the 5s or 6 will be out come Sept, but at least iPhone's sell for more on eBay should I want to sell my phone and buy a new one)
Samsung Galaxy S4 (lots of new functions)
I really want to like the HTC One, but the mediocre camera is putting me off :/
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It's the best phone I've ever had and my timeline goes; iPhone 3GS, HTC Sensation, S2, Note.
The speakers and build quality are second to none + it's lightening quick
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kurtish said:
Hi folks,
Having been an owner of many HTC's, I just wanted your advice as to whether or not you think it's worth purchasing the HTC One?
I had the One X and wasn't that impressed and ended up selling it and going for the S3, which I like, despite the numerous S-Apps which I never use :/
Anyway, I'm due an upgrade and can't decide what to go for.
HTC One (looks good)
iPhone 5 (I know the 5s or 6 will be out come Sept, but at least iPhone's sell for more on eBay should I want to sell my phone and buy a new one)
Samsung Galaxy S4 (lots of new functions)
I really want to like the HTC One, but the mediocre camera is putting me off :/
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if you like your s3 then it makes sense that you will like s4 too, its just the same, only improved.
having said that, i wouldn't rule out the One based on the fact that you didn't like the One X - as I'm sure you have seen, HTC pretty much went back to the drawing board in every single area.
try both.
EDIT. is it worth it? absolutely yes.
i'd go with the gs4. it offers much more than the one and is also faster, with better battery life, and sd card support. I won't even mention the barometer and thermometer lol. But if you like aluminum, go with the one. I personally think the GS4 looks much more minimal and sleeker than the one.
boodies said:
i'd go with the gs4. it offers much more than the one and is also faster, with better battery life, and sd card support. I won't even mention the barometer and thermometer lol. But if you like aluminum, go with the one. I personally think the GS4 looks much more minimal and sleeker than the one.
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Come on.... That is TOTALLY your opinion.
The guy is trying to make a decision so saying stuff like that as if it is fact is not needed.
Faster / battery life is also not completely known.
Stick to the facts in future.
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boodies said:
i'd go with the gs4. it offers much more than the one and is also faster, with better battery life, and sd card support. I won't even mention the barometer and thermometer lol. But if you like aluminum, go with the one. I personally think the GS4 looks much more minimal and sleeker than the one.
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Those are just the things you want a phone needs too have.. Sd card.
The battery is only 300 mah larger then the one but itll definitely has too deal with the software that runs on the phone. So no, the S4 doesnt has a better battery life and yes it has a largerbattery. But it depends on the software.
If like me - and as you have that you dont use the s-functions on the S3, then the S4 has no real advantage over the One, it's just going to be more of the same and a UI that hasnt really changed for years and has apparently take a step back to Froyo.
Iphone 5 - yep good phone, if you want just a phone.
Can you see where I am heading?
Why yes... Mercedes C class and BMW 3 series do look much sleeker and minimalistic as compared to a Ferrari 458 and Lamborghini Aventador.
*sigh* PLEASE, let's not make (this into) another comparison thread that might be closed.
Yes, the HTC One is definitely a contender in the slew of smartphones that will be available in 2013. I would suggest looking at the features and reviews of the various phones to find one that will completely suit your needs. Every phone will have pros and cons for different people.
For example, if you're looking at solely camera functions, HTC One will definitely perform better in low light, compared to SGS4 and iPhone 5 cameras. If that is something you look for in a camera, then you should more seriously consider the One. If you want a better all-around camera and don't need or want low-light features, then you should look into other phones.
It's really difficult for anybody to tell you whether the One is worth it for you. Depends 100% on what you look for in a phone, which is different than what the next person wants in their phone.
Pathetic why are Samsung fans trolling our forums is beyond me
Inferiority complex?
The camera is not mediocre but pretty good. If camera is the most important aspect of a phone to you then do your research properly. Try both out, however HTC one is the best phone out there performance is top notch second to none.
Most who own it or tried it have recommended it.
actually GS4 has better performance (fact) better battery life (fact) and is a better phone overall imho.
And you know this because you've been using the gs4 for the last 16 days right?
What do you mean, you haven't got one because it hasn't been released yet?
Oh! You looked at a spec sheet and made assumptions! Silly me. I thought you'd had 16 days of hands on experience. Sorry, my bad.
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I tried the HTC One the other day, because i am still debating whether or not to go with that or the S4.
It has a luxurious feeling(htc one) but for me, the way it layed in my hand wasn't totally awesome, then again, never had an aluminum phone.
I find the camera very much overrated, being made up to be the "new shizzle" deffo, but this is the first generation of the new shizzle and i am not all to impressed with quality.
The major turn off for me was the position of the power button, it feels awkward in the top, but then again, might just be me being used to it sitting on the side of it.
Imo though, don't just go with what looks pretty but runs well, a cover can do much to the cheap feeling of the samsung, i know i am getting one on mine, if i decide for the S4
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How many more of these threads will arrive..
mate..go to the shop and use one..
buy one if you dont like it return it
if your taking out a contract and find out you dont like it..return it and exchange
buy one if you dont like it sell
Theres a lot of ways if you find out you dont like the phone.
asking this sort of question in a device specific forum will give you 90% positive answers to your question and 10% honest ones.
working on the fact that we are easily swayed as people..the 90% will get your attention and the honest ones will be 'thanks but theres more positive comments than yours' type scenario
an honest answer..
iphone 5 if you want everything done for you
samsung gs4 if you liked there other phones in the s range
htc one if you like the way htc have tried new ideas..
This is my viewpoint above. This is neither 10% honest or 90% positive
if i was being real itd be
buy apple if you want to be a sheep and carry a really crap and underachieving phone.Then you can be in the 'in' crowd
Buy an s4 if you dont like htc.
Buy a htc one because i like it so you should as well
forgot to add..
zzzz
To be honest, all I use my phone for is Facebook, watching vids on youtube, taking photos (generally for Facebook). I try not to use it for calls, but people keep phoning me
I'm not entirely sure by the whole 'low light' photo thing as I usually just turn the flash on if it's dark
I like the look of the blink feed on the One too. Looks quite nice and it's about time they updated some if their stuff.
I just hope I don't sign up for the One, and in 2 weeks time the OneA is announce with an 8 Ultapixel camera, because that's part of the reason I gave up with HTC. Too much of the same thing when they should just concentrate on one very good device :banghead:
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And you know this because you've been using the gs4 for the last 16 days right?
What do you mean, you haven't got one because it hasn't been released yet?
Oh! You looked at a spec sheet and made assumptions! Silly me. I thought you'd had 16 days of hands on experience. Sorry, my bad.
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Several reviewers has made test over a few days or so, where the samsung genereally pulled ahead with round about 1/3 more battery life, which is alot, but well that depends on what they used it for really, it has a lot to do with software, so when the HTC One gets updated to 4.2.2 it might be fixed (one can hope)
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actually GS4 has better performance (fact) better battery life (fact) and is a better phone overall imho.
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HTC One is better IMHO.
Better screen, better materials.
Battery is bigger on the S4 so it should perform better - wooppy-effin-doo.
Performance wise there is not much of a difference and not enough to be a deal breaker for anyone on the fence.
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To be honest, all I use my phone for is Facebook, watching vids on youtube, taking photos (generally for Facebook). I try not to use it for calls, but people keep phoning me
I'm not entirely sure by the whole 'low light' photo thing as I usually just turn the flash on if it's dark
I like the look of the blink feed on the One too. Looks quite nice and it's about time they updated some if their stuff.
I just hope I don't sign up for the One, and in 2 weeks time the OneA is announce with an 8 Ultapixel camera, because that's part of the reason I gave up with HTC. Too much of the same thing when they should just concentrate on one very good device :banghead:
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If you use it just for that, well i wouldn't upgrade, it's a better quality photo, but that is just about it what you get with a brighter screen
Several factors to choose this or that phone..
Build quality comes first for me not power. Is why i never owned Samsung phones and stuck to HTC. HTC feel solid, despite the dust under the screen issue they had.
SD or no SD.. To me is not important.
Battery life depends on what power the phone packs.. and also what ROM you put in it if you choose to S=Off and offcourse Dev support
...camera.. if it is important.
I have little hopes for next iPhone.. They fooled me once already upgrading from 4 to 4S a while back which i regretted. I wouldn´t even get the 5 if i knew otherwise. Personally im done with iOS, the iPhones bore the hell out of me.. even when jailbroken.. besides i have an iPad.
Hey Guys,
This is my video comparison of the Xperia Z against the HTC One.
Hope it helps!
Leave a comment and let me know what you think
Ash
Just saw it.
Honestly? Biased as hell, some silly things there lol.
And you say the screen is better though the HTC you got was much worse.
Weellll.... Not good really.
In general:
You justify every crap HTC made, you criticize every thing on Sony.
And in reverse, every thing Sony made well becomes less important.
Truth is, HTC has tons of gimmicks on the phone which are not useful at all.
To name just a few, it's this Blinkfeed you cannot get rid off, totally undeperforming "ultrapixel" camera,
awkward and non logical buttons system, badly designed hardware buttons.
The fact is HTC's camera is a total crap, you just can't admit it.
And as for useless things, I think those stereo speakers are a gimmick. I mean I never listen to music this way, is it really the thing
people do on their phones that often?
One more thing, you couldn't - of course.. - stop yourself from those viewing angles discussion.
But why the f... you couldn't comment it's REAL, in front-of performance? And compare it to HTC?
Meeeh...
I give it 3 out of 5, thanks for effort.
Sharp edges on the Sony? Must be your device mines are soft.
There is no real proof that xz uses both dragontrail in the front and back.
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doministry said:
Just saw it.
Honestly? Biased as hell, some silly things there lol.
And you say the screen is better though the HTC you got was much worse.
Weellll.... Not good really.
In general:
You justify every crap HTC made, you criticize every thing on Sony.
And in reverse, every thing Sony made well becomes less important.
Truth is, HTC has tons of gimmicks on the phone which are not useful at all.
To name just a few, it's this Blinkfeed you cannot get rid off, totally undeperforming "ultrapixel" camera,
awkward and non logical buttons system, badly designed hardware buttons.
The fact is HTC's camera is a total crap, you just can't admit it.
And as for useless things, I think those stereo speakers are a gimmick. I mean I never listen to music this way, is it really the thing
people do on their phones that often?
One more thing, you couldn't - of course.. - stop yourself from those viewing angles discussion.
But why the f... you couldn't comment it's REAL, in front-of performance? And compare it to HTC?
Meeeh...
I give it 3 out of 5, thanks for effort.
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You wanna justify the screen? really? So I am biased huh? well lets break it down shall we?
Blinkfeed sucks and i pointed it out, lack of notifications suck again did mention it ...
I didnt say the One's stereo speakers are a innovation or they are the best ive ever seen... my s4 vs one comparison I said the s4 is louder, if i were being biased id have praised the one... I just mentioned its better than the xz's speakers cuz they are bad...
As for my htc one screen, had this been my 1st comparison id have mentioned the xz was brighter but I just did a comparison with the s4 where I said the s4 was brighter based on what I saw, after loads of comments that said i was wrong, i looked at ton of videos and articles to figure out wats actually brighter... so you can head on over the gsmarena and check the comparison too between the one and the xz... the one is brighter...
As for camera... its objective... the one outperforms the xperia z in low light and I "personally" keyword being "personally" like that better.. and i emphasize that its a personal call here.
As for specs again I mentioned that tho the one beats the xz in benchmarks theres nothing different in real time usage, to be biased I could have easily said the one was faster but I didnt.
Badly designed h/w buttons? Wasnt that what I started the comparison with? every -ve you talk about has been mentioned in the video...
The end result is am not the one being biased here, I dont have to be, I am a reviewer and I get every flagship phone on the market (which i need to sell off soon sadly ) and I dont need to justify my purchase and defend a device like you do...
Anyway hope you are happy with ur XZ... Peace!
When you do a review first you try to get your facts right, second you need to compare every aspect of them, you didn't compare the build quality of both phones. How about how easy aluminium scratches or dents? How about the bugs with zoe or the software, Sony has much polished software and build quality than the HTC.
You talk about speaker quality but we don't really have much time to hear both of them to feel the difference.
You can resize the album preview by pinching on the screen. So technically you were wrong about the number of thumbnails you can have as it can be much smaller or much larger.
You talk about screen quality washed angles (you put the device at extreme angles that no one watches the device) and then you can't do the same with the HTC one to see the difference? What kind of review is that if you don't compare them properly, then you talk about screen quality but you don't put both devices playing the same image or video simultaneous how can we see the difference?
Then you talk about the video player and xz is better but it's funny, you don't praise the Xperia you just excuse the HTC that has problems with codecs saying that you can use another player.
You say that the HTC one camera is more useful? How because of the zoe? Really do you think that is useful? I consider superior auto much useful than zoe and about camera quality yes it has better quality but stand still camera the xz wins hands down, try a macro shot with the z you will see the difference.
Call quality is bad on the xz? It got a second mic for noise cancellation so it's clear as the HTC one and even if the speaker is not as loud as the HTC it's does pretty good even in loud environment so don't talk bull****.
And then you end up saying that the xz screen is awful? Why? Because of the screen angles? Are you kidding? Or are you one of those that think that the screen looks washed out because of the gray ui? Compare properly both screens with a picture or a full hd movie with bravía engine and tell me how awful the screen is again.
You might say that you are not biased but it looks a hell of a lot that you prefer the HTC one personally even before the review.
Thanks for your time with the review though anyway I guess....
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When you do a review first you try to get your facts right, second you need to compare every aspect of them, you didn't compare the build quality of both phones. How about how easy aluminium scratches or dents? How about the bugs with zoe or the software, Sony has much polished software and build quality than the HTC.
You talk about speaker quality but we don't really have much time to hear both of them to feel the difference.
You can resize the album preview by pinching on the screen. So technically you were wrong about the number of thumbnails you can have as it can be much smaller or much larger.
You talk about screen quality washed angles (you put the device at extreme angles that no one watches the device) and then you can't do the same with the HTC one to see the difference? What kind of review is that if you don't compare them properly, then you talk about screen quality but you don't put both devices playing the same image or video simultaneous how can we see the difference?
Then you talk about the video player and xz is better but it's funny, you don't praise the Xperia you just excuse the HTC that has problems with codecs saying that you can use another player.
You say that the HTC one camera is more useful? How because of the zoe? Really do you think that is useful? I consider superior auto much useful than zoe and about camera quality yes it has better quality but stand still camera the xz wins hands down, try a macro shot with the z you will see the difference.
Call quality is bad on the xz? It got a second mic for noise cancellation so it's clear as the HTC one and even if the speaker is not as loud as the HTC it's does pretty good even in loud environment so don't talk bull****.
And then you end up saying that the xz screen is awful? Why? Because of the screen angles? Are you kidding? Or are you one of those that think that the screen looks washed out because of the gray ui? Compare properly both screens with a picture or a full hd movie with bravía engine and tell me how awful the screen is again.
You might say that you are not biased but it looks a hell of a lot that you prefer the HTC one personally even before the review.
Thanks for your time with the review though anyway I guess....
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1. Speaker Quality - agreed I should have shown more but its a well known fact in the 1st place, its a comparison and not a review
2. As for the album, I like the fact that it shows more... I said the xperia z utilizes the 1080p display better... it was something +ve that i was saying about the xz... phew!
3. The XZ's screen is washed out no matter how u try to justify it, so nope am not even gonna bother to reply to this...
4. You are looking at it with a bias, the video player has issues with common codecs like mkv and divx on the xz and that makes the xz better automatically...
5. Camera i left it as personal preference and i agree with u that ur preference is the xz
6. Its not BS... The volume on the earpiece is low, the lowest among flagships.. I shouldnt be pointing that out, instead I need to be pointing out what now? the fact that it has a secondary noise cancelling mic? a feature that 2 year old flagships have? phew again!
7. Yup the bravia engine improves things in the video player and i did point it out but s/w hard as it might try cannot make up for bad h/w
And I have owned the Xperia Z for well over a month now... and have used it as a daily driver for a min of 2 weeks so yup Ive tested and checked out the xperia z thoroughly...
thanks for your comment anyway i guess...
Well I compared the Samsung s4 screen to the Zs in the Tesco phone shop where I work and with auto brightness off and both screens set to max, the Z was clearly brighter. Indeed the brightness of the S4's screen is giving my girl second thoughts. Also if you still believe the htc one's camera is better than the Zs then your review isn't worth watching and I'm glad I didn't.
To be honest I just think it's become fashionable to praise the htc one. You know the old routine of the blind following the blind. The same **** that's been happening to the iPhone crowd for years.
Good job, I read the comments before watching your review. Would have been a waste of time
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1. Speaker Quality - agreed I should have shown more but its a well known fact in the 1st place, its a comparison and not a review
2. As for the album, I like the fact that it shows more... I said the xperia z utilizes the 1080p display better... it was something +ve that i was saying about the xz... phew!
3. The XZ's screen is washed out no matter how u try to justify it, so nope am not even gonna bother to reply to this...
4. You are looking at it with a bias, the video player has issues with common codecs like mkv and divx on the xz and that makes the xz better automatically...
5. Camera i left it as personal preference and i agree with u that ur preference is the xz
6. Its not BS... The volume on the earpiece is low, the lowest among flagships.. I shouldnt be pointing that out, instead I need to be pointing out what now? the fact that it has a secondary noise cancelling mic? a feature that 2 year old flagships have? phew again!
7. Yup the bravia engine improves things in the video player and i did point it out but s/w hard as it might try cannot make up for bad h/w
And I have owned the Xperia Z for well over a month now... and have used it as a daily driver for a min of 2 weeks so yup Ive tested and checked out the xperia z thoroughly...
thanks for your comment anyway i guess...
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2. My point was that you didn't explain how it worked properly.
3. So you are telling me that viewing the screen like a normal person it still looks washed out?
4. No but it makes the xz media player better than the HTC one in this case. No harm saying it.
6. That doesn't mean is crap just that the HTC got higher.
7. Bad h/w? Really? Like what?
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Well I compared the Samsung s4 screen to the Zs in the Tesco phone shop where I work and with auto brightness off and both screens set to max, the Z was clearly brighter. Indeed the brightness of the S4's screen is giving my girl second thoughts. Also if you still believe the htc one's camera is better than the Zs then your review isn't worth watching and I'm glad I didn't.
To be honest I just think it's become fashionable to praise the htc one. You know the old routine of the blind following the blind. The same **** that's been happening to the iPhone crowd for years.
Good job, I read the comments before watching your review. Would have been a waste of time
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lmao "blind following the blind" that coming from sm1 who takes others opinions and decides not to watch the video and form their own opinion... talk about being a hypocrite
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2. My point was that you didn't explain how it worked properly.
3. So you are telling me that viewing the screen like a normal person it still looks washed out?
4. No but it makes the xz media player better than the HTC one in this case. No harm saying it.
6. That doesn't mean is crap just that the HTC got higher.
7. Bad h/w? Really? Like what?
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2. Point is i didnt need to... I showed what was better about it.
3. Yup it does
4. When a videos already pushing 20 mins u want me to say stuff just to appease fanboys? its better it was said sue me for not singing praises
6. It is crap
7. bad display = bad hardware
Im sorry m8 I dont do 4-7min comparisons like most... I try to cover everything... It was 24 frikkin minutes for gods sakes... if theres something that i havent mentioned fair enough.. I cant spend time going into each and everything in detail for a comparison... thats what reviews are for... comparisons are what is better, what are the differences... did I show the way the ir remote on the one works? no, did I show the multiple lockscreen options that the one has in detail nope, I paid exactly the same attention to the one as i did to the xz....
Anyway I get it you've bought the phone, uve spent ur cash on it and now u want to justify it to urself... but cmon, the xz screen is really better than the one's? honest to god, you didnt open the box and for a second atleast wonder "is it juz my screen?"
As for me being biased...
I use a sony alpha 57 cam that i just purchased, I have a sony hx9v for my secondary cam, I own 2 sony playstation 3s.... do you see a pattern here? Lets take HTC.. I wasnt high on the butterfly in my comparisons and even rated the one x lower than the s3 last year in my comp... the one is the 1st htc phone that ive praised... and fyi last year everyone was singing praises for the one x... i liked it but i didnt prefer it over my s3 or note and thats exactly what i said in my vid... so this is how i genuinely feel about the device... so u still think I have it out for sony? Just like you I paid for my Xperia Z too...
Again as for the cam... I was very clear that the xz is the better cam in bright lights, as for low lights are you gonna disagree and say that that the xz performs better than the one in low light? Thats all I said.. xz better in good light, one better in low lights... whats better for you is your call but for me personally i prefer the option of shooting pics in low light... how is that a dig at the xz???
This is not me backing down cause I still say the same, sony makes amazing stuff and should have used a better screen... the audio quality is bs both the speaker as well as the ear piece...
Jeezz, seriously though the screen on the XZ is pure sh*t. Its almost painful to look at.
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lmao "blind following the blind" that coming from sm1 who takes others opinions and decides not to watch the video and form their own opinion... talk about being a hypocrite
2. Point is i didnt need to... I showed what was better about it.
3. Yup it does
4. When a videos already pushing 20 mins u want me to say stuff just to appease fanboys? its better it was said sue me for not singing praises
6. It is crap
7. bad display = bad hardware
Im sorry m8 I dont do 4-7min comparisons like most... I try to cover everything... It was 24 frikkin minutes for gods sakes... if theres something that i havent mentioned fair enough.. I cant spend time going into each and everything in detail for a comparison... thats what reviews are for... comparisons are what is better, what are the differences... did I show the way the ir remote on the one works? no, did I show the multiple lockscreen options that the one has in detail nope, I paid exactly the same attention to the one as i did to the xz....
Anyway I get it you've bought the phone, uve spent ur cash on it and now u want to justify it to urself... but cmon, the xz screen is really better than the one's? honest to god, you didnt open the box and for a second atleast wonder "is it juz my screen?"
As for me being biased...
I use a sony alpha 57 cam that i just purchased, I have a sony hx9v for my secondary cam, I own 2 sony playstation 3s.... do you see a pattern here? Lets take HTC.. I wasnt high on the butterfly in my comparisons and even rated the one x lower than the s3 last year in my comp... the one is the 1st htc phone that ive praised... and fyi last year everyone was singing praises for the one x... i liked it but i didnt prefer it over my s3 or note and thats exactly what i said in my vid... so this is how i genuinely feel about the device... so u still think I have it out for sony? Just like you I paid for my Xperia Z too...
Again as for the cam... I was very clear that the xz is the better cam in bright lights, as for low lights are you gonna disagree and say that that the xz performs better than the one in low light? Thats all I said.. xz better in good light, one better in low lights... whats better for you is your call but for me personally i prefer the option of shooting pics in low light... how is that a dig at the xz???
This is not me backing down cause I still say the same, sony makes amazing stuff and should have used a better screen... the audio quality is bs both the speaker as well as the ear piece...
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No, because before buying my phone I compared the difference options available and I liked the way the sony xperia screen looks.
I am not a fanboy, XD this is my first sony phone. I am NOT saying that the XZ has a better screen than the HTC one it's true. But to say that the screen is **** just because you don't like it, it's to say the least biased. And you can't deny the fact that you don't like the xz and you tried to force that view on the comparison. So it was indeed a biased review as pretty much all the reviews that compare does two phones.
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No, because before buying my phone I compared the difference options available and I liked the way the sony xperia screen looks.
I am not a fanboy, XD this is my first sony phone. I am NOT saying that the XZ has a better screen than the HTC one it's true. But to say that the screen is **** just because you don't like it, it's to say the least biased. And you can't deny the fact that you don't like the xz and you tried to force that view on the comparison. So it was indeed a biased review as pretty much all the reviews that compare does two phones.
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Its not a mid level device, its a flagship, a phone that we pay top dollar for, is it unfair to expect it to have the best of everything? You dont think the viewing angles are bad? you could say who cares about viewing angles but for what we pay, when others can give it (hell if oppo can give it for $499) why not Sony?
What you say is partly right but uve got it the other way around.... its not that I dont like the xz and I talk about the speakers and viewing angles because i font like but its because of the viewing angles and speakers that I feel the xz is not as good as it should have been...
I dont wanna argue, am just trying to calm you down enough so that I can get feedback on my video... once the initial "damn he called my phone bad... that jackass!!!" anger dies down, maybe I can get some feedback on what I can do to improve...
honestly I have 26k subs on youtube and my videos hit the 10k mark in a month no matter what.. posting it on xda gets me a few hundred views max... the reason I do so is because I can get some actual feedback here... on youtube u have the words limit on comments and we couldnt have had this kinda conversation there.. ud probably have said "u are biased the xz rocks" and id have ignored it cuz theres no way i could reply to that with the utube word limit.
If anyone honestly feels I have been biased somewhere please let me know and I am willing to change it... just go to my channel and watch any video from a month back a couple of months back ull notice the difference, I am constantly trying to learn and improve.
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Its not a mid level device, its a flagship, a phone that we pay top dollar for, is it unfair to expect it to have the best of everything? You dont think the viewing angles are bad? you could say who cares about viewing angles but for what we pay, when others can give it (hell if oppo can give it for $499) why not Sony?
What you say is partly right but uve got it the other way around.... its not that I dont like the xz and I talk about the speakers and viewing angles because i font like but its because of the viewing angles and speakers that I feel the xz is not as good as it should have been...
I dont wanna argue, am just trying to calm you down enough so that I can get feedback on my video... once the initial "damn he called my phone bad... that jackass!!!" anger dies down, maybe I can get some feedback on what I can do to improve...
honestly I have 26k subs on youtube and my videos hit the 10k mark in a month no matter what.. posting it on xda gets me a few hundred views max... the reason I do so is because I can get some actual feedback here... on youtube u have the words limit on comments and we couldnt have had this kinda conversation there.. ud probably have said "u are biased the xz rocks" and id have ignored it cuz theres no way i could reply to that with the utube word limit.
If anyone honestly feels I have been biased somewhere please let me know and I am willing to change it... just go to my channel and watch any video from a month back a couple of months back ull notice the difference, I am constantly trying to learn and improve.
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I absolutely agree with you. I certainly would have considered the XZ if it wasnt for the washed out screen, the speakers isnt that much of a deal breaker for me cause i use headphones most of the times. The XZ has a beautiful design, i absolutely LOVE the power button, it looks so slick. Waterproof and dust proof is a plus but nothig i really care about. the snapdragon S4 pro is plenty even if it isnt the best anymore, it is still one of the best and very capable SoC. But for a flagship device, and considering every phone is coming out with a 1080p display, the one on the Z is really a let down. also the placement of the volume rocker doesnt make any sense ( the speaker too quite frankly). Reason why i complain so much about the screen is cause thats where everything happens, thats what you look at. Its unacceptable to me to buy a phone for more than 500$ with a ****ty screen.
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I absolutely agree with you. I certainly would have considered the XZ if it wasnt for the washed out screen, the speakers isnt that much of a deal breaker for me cause i use headphones most of the times. The XZ has a beautiful design, i absolutely LOVE the power button, it looks so slick. Waterproof and dust proof is a plus but nothig i really care about. the snapdragon S4 pro is plenty even if it isnt the best anymore, it is still one of the best and very capable SoC. But for a flagship device, and considering every phone is coming out with a 1080p display, the one on the Z is really a let down. also the placement of the volume rocker doesnt make any sense ( the speaker too quite frankly). Reason why i complain so much about the screen is cause thats where everything happens, thats what you look at. Its unacceptable to me to buy a phone for more than 500$ with a ****ty screen.
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ashwin123 said:
Its not a mid level device, its a flagship, a phone that we pay top dollar for, is it unfair to expect it to have the best of everything? You dont think the viewing angles are bad? you could say who cares about viewing angles but for what we pay, when others can give it (hell if oppo can give it for $499) why not Sony?
What you say is partly right but uve got it the other way around.... its not that I dont like the xz and I talk about the speakers and viewing angles because i font like but its because of the viewing angles and speakers that I feel the xz is not as good as it should have been...
I dont wanna argue, am just trying to calm you down enough so that I can get feedback on my video... once the initial "damn he called my phone bad... that jackass!!!" anger dies down, maybe I can get some feedback on what I can do to improve...
honestly I have 26k subs on youtube and my videos hit the 10k mark in a month no matter what.. posting it on xda gets me a few hundred views max... the reason I do so is because I can get some actual feedback here... on youtube u have the words limit on comments and we couldnt have had this kinda conversation there.. ud probably have said "u are biased the xz rocks" and id have ignored it cuz theres no way i could reply to that with the utube word limit.
If anyone honestly feels I have been biased somewhere please let me know and I am willing to change it... just go to my channel and watch any video from a month back a couple of months back ull notice the difference, I am constantly trying to learn and improve.
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About the screen, I don't feel that washed out colours people talk about really, you have you realise the ui is grey not black and that might cause the impression that the phone doesn't do good blacks but it does quite good if you look at a video or picture. That it's not as "vibrant/oversaturated" as an amoled screen ofc, but some people like it that way.
I'm trying to give you feedback, I couldn't care less if you like or don't like this device. But what I don't like is biased opinions and false statements in a comparison. Obviously you can have your own opinion and you might not like it but you should try to be impartial when comparing/reviewing units. All this is IMHO and with the aim to help you.
Again, I don't think the XZ is a better phone than the HTC one or the S4, they are newer phones with better processor and better screen. But XZ was the first flagship to be released, so the more time you have to release a device the more time you have to improve it.
For me, I picked the XZ because It's the phone that ticked all the boxes for me. Quad core, 2gb RAM, full hd screen, sd card slot. That's pretty much all I cared about and it does it well in all of them. Maybe on screen battery time is not the best but it's still better than my lg o2x.
At the end of the day if I didn't like the phone I could just return it and get the HTC one or the S4. ^^. But I do like it and I'm sure there is a lot of people that does too.
Edit: let me show you what I mean about the ui. This is a screenshoot of a black image with the soft keys, can you see how the soft key are grey? That can give the impression that the screen is washed out because of the soft keys
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Well, I dont know about you, but my friends who saw my phone, were all amazed about the quality of the XZ screen and all came running to the shops to get it. Note that they all come from iPhones, S3s and note2s..
Point to note that i do have my screen optimised with the white balance mod, black nav bars and a BE2 wallpaper.. Honestly, screen looks amazing.
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About the screen, I don't feel that washed out colours people talk about really, you have you realise the ui is grey not black and that might cause the impression that the phone doesn't do good blacks but it does quite good if you look at a video or picture. That it's not as "vibrant/oversaturated" as an amoled screen ofc, but some people like it that way.
I'm trying to give you feedback, I couldn't care less if you like or don't like this device. But what I don't like is biased opinions and false statements in a comparison. Obviously you can have your own opinion and you might not like it but you should try to be impartial when comparing/reviewing units. All this is IMHO and with the aim to help you.
Again, I don't think the XZ is a better phone than the HTC one or the S4, they are newer phones with better processor and better screen. But XZ was the first flagship to be released, so the more time you have to release a device the more time you have to improve it.
For me, I picked the XZ because It's the phone that ticked all the boxes for me. Quad core, 2gb RAM, full hd screen, sd card slot. That's pretty much all I cared about and it does it well in all of them. Maybe on screen battery time is not the best but it's still better than my lg o2x.
At the end of the day if I didn't like the phone I could just return it and get the HTC one or the S4. ^^. But I do like it and I'm sure there is a lot of people that does too.
Edit: let me show you what I mean about the ui. This is a screenshoot of a black image with the soft keys, can you see how the soft key are grey? That can give the impression that the screen is washed out because of the soft keys
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Thanks for the explanation... I get the UI thats the 1st thing I notices and pointed out once I got it.. the app drawer has a greyish back that makes things look worse as in the washed out feeling more than it should but def, compared to superlcd 3 or even the oppo find 5's screen it does look washed out, my honest opinion and after doing my share of research and confirming it with a few others who own the device I decided to go with it...
you could return the phone if you want... lol, how I wish that was an option where I am from.. we have no returns here, so kinda stuck with what we buy, even RMAs are damn hard... galaxy camera (yes I was stupid enough to buy one) shipped with a dead pixel, took them 2 months & about 8 mails to samsung to replace
I'm curious as to why people here are saying the XZ's screen is washed out. I used a HTC One X before this and it pretty much had (still has imo) the best screen you can find anywhere, and I really think the XZ comes pretty darn close because of the high res. Colours are vibrant and accurate without being oversaturated. Although viewing angles aren't as good as the HOX's, it isn't so bad to the extent that colours are completely washed out or something. Besides, I have yet to find a use case where I need to view anything from a >35 degree angle anyway.
Please keep things on-topic here guys and resist the urge to make your argument personal.
It's fine to debate the phones and the review but I don't want to see personal attacks or bad language being used... This will be your only warning.
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So many negative threads about how the screen sucks, the camera sucks etc etc. Would be nice to hear from the people who actually like the Z1. Write down your experience with the phone. It doesn't have to be all rosy but hopefully it will give a little bit more nuance.
Sure.
Last Saturday I got my Z1, I've had a Gnex for a long time and my first impressions are very good. The device is amazingly fast, everything works as it should, multitasking is very good, all performance related things are nothing to complain about.
The screen 'dead-on' is also nice the viewing angles people are talking about is something I don't really see as a problem. I just held the phone in an angle and when the colours start to wash out it's an angle I would never use my phone at. Other than that the camera does have noise issues, although it's not too bad IMHO. (do bear in mind I come from the Gnex so pretty much every new device is a big upgrade) I don't think the noise issues aren't too bad though, as Sony can easily fix the noise issues with a software update. Speaking of updates, the Z1 already had 3 updates. Whether this is a good or a bad thing is up to you, but to me it sounds like it's well supported by Sony.
Battery... I feel mixed about it. It's better than my Gnex, but again, pretty much every device is. I did expect a lot more from a 3000 mAh battery though. I had about 23 hours of standby and roughly 4 hours of screen on time. That is with 3G on all the time, wifi on most of the time and applications like Twitter, Whatsapp and Facebook running in the background. It's a weird thing though, the xperia ZR gets 11:30 (11 hours and 30 minutes) of browsing in the GSMarena test. While the Z1 gets about half of that. I have the feeling Sony has to do some software optimization, since they can pull it off. (note: the ZR battery is 2300 mAh) How long this will take, and if Sony will even do it, I have no idea. If the problem is related to Qualcomm it may take a long time though since they're not very keen on doing things in a different way. (look at the Nexus 7 2013 and binaries)
Overall I personally think the Xperia Z1 is an amazing device. It's super fast, the build quality is amazing and it feels really good.(get a case though!) There are things to improve on such as battery life and it depends on whether you trust Sony to fix these issues or not.
Positve
Got mine yesterday.
S/W: problems yet
Performance: Extremely quick 9/10
Screen Quality: 8/10 but too early to say if I'm just being jaded by all the moaning.
Camera seems pretty good to me, what a blessing a proper camera button makes.
Shame I can't upload samples of photos / videos etc. I will find a way if request. Anyone wanna buy a Galaxy 3? ho ho..
Oh one thing I don't like, is having to uncover the charger port to charge it up (i know its re waterproofing).
My options are :-
Cut the cover flap off or buy a magnetic charger unit £30.00 !!!!! (I probably will.)
So far pretty dam good phone.
Paul
I've had my XZ1 since Saturday 21st sept, and so far I love it, the camera is good but has issues like the grain and noise which prevent it from being a great one.
Love the sharpness and colours of the screen and it's resolution makes browsing the Web or forums so easy.
I've gotten used to the waterproof tabs after having my Xtz before I got the z1 but at least if you don't like having to keep opening the flap you can use a magnetic charger cable or dock.
That's all I can think of at lol
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screen is best... best contrast and color you can get... no yellow tint or extra blue. no issue at all..
screen performance not so good from an angle... but who use it like that... 98% i use head on... 2 % ready to sacrifice. for head on awesomeness..
battery is a ****. (Wifi and bluetooth on, may be due to this)
Auto mode of camera is a ****..
play around with ISO in manual mode to get best shot for each scenario...
sound from speaker is not so good... even headphone sound (wired) is not good...
performance... nothing can beat it... samsung s4 struggles before this beast..
i am still on 518 firmware and no software issue so far.. using wireless headphones...
jos_031 said:
screen is best... best contrast and color you can get... no yellow tint or extra blue. no issue at all..
screen performance not so good from an angle... but who use it like that... 98% i use head on... 2 % ready to sacrifice. for head on awesomeness..
battery is a ****. (Wifi and bluetooth on, may be due to this)
Auto mode of camera is a ****..
play around with ISO in manual mode to get best shot for each scenario...
sound from speaker is not so good... even headphone sound (wired) is not good...
performance... nothing can beat it... samsung s4 struggles before this beast..
i am still on 518 firmware and no software issue so far.. using wireless headphones...
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For me it's this above plus
Weird touch screen issues where it goes a bit bonkers when doing the pattern unlock.
Wow a positive thread about the Z1, do my eyes deceive me?
Seriously it's nice to see positive in all the threads of doom and gloom.
Nice
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So I got mine yesterday.
Hardware: I can't tell you how gorgeous this phone is if you haven't seen it yet, the blend of pure vanilla white with the aluminium frame is a spot on direct hit in my eyes. Under the hood HW is even better. The S800 chip seriously flies and it's been a long time but Android is now becoming just as fluid as iOS and WP and it's great to see that.
Software: I am a big fan of the Sony UI simply because it's easy and it looks pretty vanilla, I haven't installed a Homescreen in 2 years now ever since I got a Xperia S and I am not changing that now. There is some minor SW bugs where some dialouges just doesn't show up but I can still press them(if I know their real position)
Camera: The camera is a serious SW mess because I know and I see that Sony has a good camera HW-wise BUT their SW and esspecially Auto mode is seriously one complete mess. Other than the major problems with the noise the camera app is fluid and it's quite promosing to have some nice options like AR and the Livestream mode.
Sound: THe loudspeaker is decent and nothing you would cheer about but it's better than my old XS of course. The headphone jack for me is perfect and I hear absolutely no difference when playing the same song on my XS or my Z1
Screen: THe screen for me is supersharp, I can only see a little difference in sharpness between my XS and Z1 but that is expected but still it's a nice feature. The colours are almost accurate(I had to increase my blue level by +3 to +4), viewing angles aren't the best but they are clearly better than my XS besides head on is the way to go in my world.
Battery: Battery is a mixed bag; Standby is EXCELLENT hours can go and the phone is still on the same percentage. However and this is a big one the battery during Web browsing or other minor things is seriously underperforming. Clearly this is also something wrong with the SW because other Sony phones does not have the same problem.
I hope this gives a good view on the phone, clearly Sony needs to fix the battery and the Camera and for some swap out faulty screens. Other than that my money was well put!
I got my XZ1 on monday and I love it so far! Yeah the viewing angles aren't the best but who is gonna use their phone from those angles? The camera is good, yes it needs some improvements but it isn't unusable.
The waterproof tabs take some getting used to after coming from a Nexus 4 but my battery lasts me about a day and a half almost 2; so I don't have to undo the tab to often.
I like the speaker, it isn't as loud as the one on the Note 2 I had but it is WAY better than the Nexus 4. I really like the notification LED also, its in a really discrete location and its pretty visible; and paired with light manager it is really useful for me.
Wifi has also been good for me, at least compared to my old N4. The overall speed of the phone is awesome! This thing rips!
Coming from the Nexus 4 this was a SOLID upgrade for me. SD card slot, better camera, Snapdragon 800, better speakers (ear piece also), and its waterproof? I can't really complain on my end!
I think people are just being a little too picky. I mean come on the phone has only been out for almost a week now. What else can you expect? Sony has been releasing updates pretty frequently so hopefully everything will get better soon.
So i will do that short: Sony Xperia Z1 is just good. Not perfect. but good and defently better as my old Xperia S. (Whiches i aso not so bad if i compare to to other cellphone from this timewindow)
Mine is good so far, only got it for 2days will test camera etc some more
One thing I can say about the screen:
I went to local store and compared to ZU screen, both on full brightness and my Z1 screen definitely has better colors and details then Z1. I tried the Sony sample pics and compared those.
Better details is due to 5" vs 6.4" I guess. But colors are really better on Z1, also in video I noticed the same result
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Love the z1
Got the Z1 on pre-order, arrived the 17th.
- First thing i notice, phone is not bulky (in oposition to what reviewers say). Second thing, sony actually provides screen protect (Awsome)
- Phone turns on great and continues to perform great, Loving 4g and the speed and smoothness of the whole system.
- Screen contrast is not superb, lost in comparison to the s4, but during video streaming/playback, it performed amazingly as being hit directly by sunlight it was still very clear.
- Overall The phone is amazing, everyone says constantly i can't stop playing around with it (so true).
The only negative i have is battery life. Due to my constant use it drains very very quickly. But i think i'll be able to fix that.
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Sure.
Last Saturday I got my Z1, I've had a Gnex for a long time and my first impressions are very good. The device is amazingly fast, everything works as it should, multitasking is very good, all performance related things are nothing to complain about.
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Overall I personally think the Xperia Z1 is an amazing device. It's super fast, the build quality is amazing and it feels really good.(get a case though!) There are things to improve on such as battery life and it depends on whether you trust Sony to fix these issues or not.
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I see you're from the Netherlands. Could you confirm we are still on 14.1.G.1.518 firmware? It seems everyone who has been able to upgrade to 534 firmware has far better camera results, yet I cannot update to this new firmware, still stuck on the old one. I'd love to update the firmware to get better camera results but I do not want to root this phone. I'm on Vodafone RED 4G btw, dunno if it mathers.. Thanks.
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I see you're from the Netherlands. Could you confirm we are still on 14.1.G.1.518 firmware? It seems everyone who has been able to upgrade to 534 firmware has far better camera results, yet I cannot update to this new firmware, still stuck on the old one. I'd love to update the firmware to get better camera results but I do not want to root this phone. I'm on Vodafone RED 4G btw, dunno if it mathers.. Thanks.
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I am. I can confirm I didn't get any updates on my unlocked Z1. I updated to 534 manually via flashtool though. (doesn't void warranty) I have no idea why we don't get the updates pushed to our phones.
thought i'd give my 2 cents here as i have been seeing a lot of negative comments, especially from people who judge way too quickly. Back when the Z came out i followed it madly and already had it on pre-order but i ended up getting a htc one. Ive had this phone for 2 days now and compared to my htc one it is a definite improvement. The only thing im getting used to is the size of the phone, i have small hands so you can imagine its not a 1 handed affair, but you cant fault the build quality, i love the fact that sony puts its own screen and back panel protector on (remember the x10). Call quality is amazing i have to say, loud and clear. performance is amazing, i can see the improvements in the chipset s800 has over s600 (was in my htc one), in real life you wont notice it too much but its defo there, games run amazing no lags and hits a very good fps (wild blood, real racing 3 in particular looks and plays amazingly). I've not really played with the camera much but its better than my htc one, that was the only thing i was disappointed with that phone. Now i have been constantly messing about with the phone so cant really give an accurate example of battery life, but what are you supposed to expect from a phone specc'd like this, yes it has a bigger capacity battery, it also has a big screen and a powerful cpu too, if i get a full days use out of it il be happy.
The Z1 is easily the best phone ever built. Its so nice to hold and use. Definitely my favourite phone to date and I have owned nearly all the previous flagship phones from most companies.
Absolutely blown away by this phone it's just amazing for me.
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Hi,
I'm totally new to android and the Z1 is my first personal android phone. My expectations where so high coming from many years of All iPhones.
I don't want to start a flame but yes I think android is a little behind (in some aspects) to ios7 BUT this device is actually freaking awesome and looks to me the only one that can beat the iPhone quality.
- High quality. When you touch it you feel that your money are well spent.
- The camera (if we consider is a phone) Is just super good.
- The Sony rom doesn't make me sad as and in a hurry to grab a random 3th party rom
- Display is super good colors looks real and rich. Yes view angles are not awesome but only crazy people use the phone in that way. One thing that NO ONE MENTION is that any phone is close to the iPhone under the sun. Surprise surprise according to phone arena the Z1 is in 2 place. That's for me means A LOT more than insane view angles. The only difect so far is the black. The display show (only in some circumstances) one of the lightest black on the market. You'll may notice it watching a movie (a dark one) in a dark room.
- screen protector: isn't so fragile as many said but yes isn't olephobic
Am I satisfied? A lot!!!!
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I'm posting this as i think Sony doesn't know what they are doing anymore, they are not in control of their mobile dev department, its a real mess.
After years of experiencing android market, Sony reinventing the wheel every time they come up with something new, the latest example is the Z5 series
they released a device with half a day battery life under fair usage, they are marketing it as a 2 days battery ready
they forgot to add the correct drivers for the bluetooth and wifi, that's why the bower consumption is really high when both left on without connecting to BT headset or Wi-Fi
the camera is far from the expectations, lagy, hardly focus, image optimization is at the worst, extremely noisy, file size is at the highest, please do a fair comparison between this camera and any other mid-range device, even Huawei doing much better than Sony camera, the weird thing is they are selling their camera module to most of the high-end manufacturers, but others knows how to perfectly use this module.
even their own apps like "Smart Connect" it doesn't trigger the required action upon device pairing to a bluetooth for example
Stamina Clock disconnects the mobile data believe me it does
"Adaptive Brightness" is not correctly functioning, it extremely exposure the screen brightness for seconds before it detects the correct settings
sound drivers are sh*^%&t, stereo speakers are not well calibrated, and after every Facebook call or disconnecting noise cancelling headset, I have to readjust ringer and call volumes again
Sony fans stay away please, no need for (my device lasts for full 5 years with only 10% battery) as this is a lie, I factory rest and repaired my device 6 times with all possible settings before I post this, this post is not for you guys, I was a Sony fan, starting from Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3, and finally this sh%^ty Z5P, and unfortunately am an advanced user and i know Sony mobiles behavior
Good luck everyone, stay away from Sony mobiles this year if you care about your money, you won't be satisfied unless you are a beginner, or you have the patience to wait for months for an update to fix a bug and bug another, till finally after ages they fix their firmware.
Be Happy Story Teller
hahah you sure bro ? you got all that problem in your phone ? is that even legit Sony product or maybe you buy the cloned one hahahha . I think the problem is you or let's say your phone only because every error that you mentioned is all just story .
1. My phone takes almost 2 day before it drain : game , facebook , music . Also i think you need to learn to read , Sony announced it 2days in Standby mode , really are you fan of Sony . Nice story .
2.Do you know the correct drivers your talking about ? My wifi is on always i dont get that problem.
3. LMAO the CAMERA this one , really ? Sony Camera is SUPERB ! Even my friends who used Samsung , Iphones they know Z5 Camera is better . This the best hahaha .
4.Smart Connect ? Even this one you got problem hahahahah !
5.I used Stamina Clock and I can still use mobile data with LTE .
6.The adaptive brightness is very good also . You know i dont know whats your problem retarded hahaha .
7.Lastly the Music , ow common . Sony's Stereo is great .
Dont listen to this guy claiming he is a Sony Fan hahahah . Its easy to say that your a Sony Fan . Actually your a great Story Teller on the other side . Laughing very hard to this post haha . Almost all the details in the phone you got the problem seriously ? Your too obvious . I pity you , all story that you mentioned i didnt even got one . I hope i have atleast one ! hahahah
True Sony Z5 Series Xperia User can tell it . I know others will get some problems just like all other phones but not all the problems that you mentioned . Cool Story Bro ! Cheers
Im very proud with this phone.
Z5 Premium Dual User
Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
bahkata said:
You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
Which version of the premium do you have? Is it dual? Is it E6883? I wonder if bugs are only in certain versions of the phone. Especially the battery issue. I got the dual E6883 and I feel like the battery is not lasting how it should.
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
bahkata said:
Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it
gd luck
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Probably when the marshmallow update drops soon it will be alot better huh? Yeah the camera button would be nice !! i wanted a rear camera closest to a dslr so the z5p is probably that. I heard the z5p has a better stabilizer..Do you think a new model z5p will drop soon? i guess thats my main concern, i dont want the phone to depreciate after Christmas and i know iphones dont hardly do that haha. Hows your battery life ??
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bahkata said:
Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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edit: Do they still have that black friday promo? lol and i should probably get a iphone 6s plus then since i can easily resell it for alot (seem to hold value). i found a 6s plus 128gb for $700 new
Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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2 days seems amazing, on my s6 edge plus i sold i got around 10hrs only with probably 2-3sot. Guess i gotta think this through lol... do you have any camera samples? or any samples on instagram or something ?
Thats quite disappointing. People here don't like it when they get "only" 4-5 hrs SOT on the Z5P
check here -> http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_premium-review-1344.php
loads of samples and a decent review
bahkata said:
You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
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Im originally from Bulgaria, mate. I don't have to imagine. But being from the third world you must also be aware that the lowest quality batches get send there and you need to be extra careful. As far as warranty goes, there is no such thing as "no warranty" with a big name brand. You can always send it to a Sony service center outside your country. You just have to communicate that through the correct channels. I managed to do it with a Nokia and a Samsung in my teens. You are a big boy, you'll figure it out
Now the disappointment part. It's not the feeling I am referring to. It's the process you are going through to handle it. This is a forum where people come together to be helpful/get help. Thanks to topics and posts like yours it is becoming a mundane and unhelpful place where people come to vent and whine without really seeking a solution, which makes it a less helpful place. Essentially you are making the world a ****tier place. By a very little amount of course, but it contributes
What was wrong with posting in the Q&A, troubleshooting section, explaining your problems and ask nicely if people have the same and what could be a solution?
Also don't be mad at Yolo. He has the right to be frustrated, just cannot express it very well.
I have the 6853 and honestly it works great... The camera is definitely better than the iPhone 6S+...my wife uses that and I took a ton of pictures using both...the Sony is considerably better...no phone is perfect but right now I don't think there's anything better than the Z5P...Android M will be out soon and it will only get better...the one thing that Sony is wrong on is Battery....as a heavy user, I get one full day usage, not 2...but its usually hovering around 15-20% when I finally put it back on the charger...another thing I noticed was that Sony's quick charger is slower than others...I have a $9 certified Qualcomm quick charger I got from Amazon that charges the phone from 2-3% to 100% in one hour...and I get it up to like 70% in 30-35 minutes.
Only battery drain a little bit too fast other then is perfect for me.
Before z5p I had use moto x prue ,nexus 6p, lumia 950xl but I feel z5p is better one
i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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I am still using my Z1 and it has never had a single issue in over two years but I am contemplating getting the Z5 Premium in black.
How would you rate it next to the Z1, take into consideration that o have not used or owned any other Z series device.
Would it be a massive jump and difference in user experience, in a positive manner?
jordy787 said:
I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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i ended up ordering a 6s+ on ebay haha thanks for replying back! I know exactly what you mean, they haven't optimized the camera yet for snapchat i had that happen with my old g4 ..only way to fix that is to use the 3rd party snapchat app called "casper" it allows you to use original camera app. idk what it is but iphones always tend to have the better front camera even with being a lower resolution. Main reason i did not get the z5p is because there is rumors with the z6 plus/ultra coming out soon so i would rather stick with something that wont depreciate yenno
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