Hi there!
If this was answered, then I don't know how to search, delete this thread.
Let me approach this problem from a different angle.
I have used a lot of ROM since I have this beauty.
What I would like is an option to install softkeys on any ROM.
You probably used ROMs that come with this feature out of the box.
What I want is to be able to install, flash, enable it if we can.
I do not know why can't we have this, is it a feature problem, the ROM I am using can't be modded this way or no offense, is it the Developer's lack of knowledge in this matter or what else?
So please, I just want to understand this if I can't have what I want then why is that? Just a simple answer.
But if I could do it, please direct me to the correct post.
Thanks a lot.
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As far as I know, you can enable soft keys on any ICS an JB ROMs. On lower, you may be able to find that option under "Cyanogen Settings" if you have a cm ROM(GB).
Otherwise, use any of the softkeys apps available like "zMooth" (this is not the best, but it's what came to my mind now)
Thanks for your reply Marvlesz.
The problem is that my ROM is a Sense UI ROM from Boxmax.
This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
So this is a GB ROM, not ICS or JB.
I am using zMooth but that is not the same as real softkeys.
So I am still waiting for a complete answer why is this not possible in my case.
A quick search on that thread, and this came up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33147402&postcount=2826
Sorry, I don't use softkeys and I'm not knowledgeable in them.
Edit: A more general search gave this: http://androidandsandu.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-to-add-virtual-softkeys-navigation.html
Well as I see it it can't be made.
That is why Boxmax didn't implement it in his ROM's.
These ROM's are 2.3.5 and your 2nd links post says it needs 2.3.6
So thanks a lot for your help.
If anyone else comes up with an idea I hope they gonna share it here.
Also, use "navigation bar" and / or "nav bar" in your search term,and you may get different results to try.
Skateout said:
Thanks for your reply Marvlesz.
The problem is that my ROM is a Sense UI ROM from Boxmax.
This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
So this is a GB ROM, not ICS or JB.
I am using zMooth but that is not the same as real softkeys.
So I am still waiting for a complete answer why is this not possible in my case.
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Or, you can try "Button Savior" from Google Play..
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Sorry, but button savior is not an option.
What I really would like is the buttons to be placed at the bottom of the screen, as part of the sistem.
Like the ones you can see in many ICS ROM's.
Skateout said:
Sorry, but button savior is not an option.
What I really would like is the buttons to be placed at the bottom of the screen, as part of the sistem.
Like the ones you can see in many ICS ROM's.
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Okay, but it works well over most roms. I had it on Typhoon Gingerbread ROM on the bottom.
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There is what I want, the screenshot is from this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1782280
That is what I need but with a Sense ROM.
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There is what I want, the screenshot is from this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1782280
That is what I need but with a Sense ROM.
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Sorry, I have no idea what you mean - perhaps you could explain in your native tongue?
You seem to be looking for the 3 soft keys on the bottom on a sense rom. Did I misunderstand?
I don't really know why you cannot use CM type navigation nor do I understand why Button Savior will not work for you. BS could place 3 or 4 or 5 buttons on the bottom, hide them or not, in different styles. I take it you have not actually tried it, right? Whatever.. Good luck in your search!
It is how you said it. I am looking for the 3 soft keys on the bottom of the screen but what I want is to be as it is in that screenshot.
Part of the sistem, not a 3rd party app.
The difference is that a 3rd party app is going to hover on the sistem UI and what I showed you is part of the ROM so it has its own space down at the bottom so anything else in the ROM's UI is resized so the softkeys can fit in.
Do you understand me now?
Nontheless, thanks for your help.
AW: [Q] Softkeys to save the hardkeys?
Hi,
I don't know if the following tip works with you ROM... try it... I use Xylos great ROM "PACman" and both works..
Enable Navigation Bar:
Use following settings:
ROM Control -> Navigation Bar -> Navigation Bar width = more than 0dp
In some ROMs, you may do it in one click. Add only a shortcut to the home screen: Shortcuts -> AOKP Actions -> Toggle Navbar.
Cheers
Klaus
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It is how you said it. I am looking for the 3 soft keys on the bottom of the screen but what I want is to be as it is in that screenshot.
Part of the sistem, not a 3rd party app.
The difference is that a 3rd party app is going to hover on the sistem UI and what I showed you is part of the ROM so it has its own space down at the bottom so anything else in the ROM's UI is resized so the softkeys can fit in.
Do you understand me now?
Nontheless, thanks for your help.
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In short I don't think it's possible.
Softkeys were introduced into AOSP from honeycomb onwards as they were bring out devices (at that time tablets) without hard keys, with the softkeys being turned on/off with one line in build.prop. There are some gingerbread builds that have a form of softkeys, but these are all CM7 (calling it something like tablet tweaks), and this was done by the Cyano Devs by taking some of the honeycomb code and baking it into the system. Sense builds especially gingerbread ones I don't think will see softkeys as part of the system. Although feel free to prove me wrong and point out a GB Sense ROM (for any device) that has softkeys.
find build.prop and add the line
qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
at the end.
Google 'editing build.prop'
Skateout said:
It is how you said it. I am looking for the 3 soft keys on the bottom of the screen but what I want is to be as it is in that screenshot.
Part of the sistem, not a 3rd party app.
The difference is that a 3rd party app is going to hover on the sistem UI and what I showed you is part of the ROM so it has its own space down at the bottom so anything else in the ROM's UI is resized so the softkeys can fit in.
Do you understand me now?
Nontheless, thanks for your help.
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Yes, I see why you are looking for that. It is interesting that I was looking for the opposite - a third party app - for essentially the same but opposite reasons: when the keys took a permanent portion of screen real estate some apps didn't work because they expected the full screen. Everything worked with the addon app.
We each have different needs and wants I suppose.
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Well I had 2 ROM which hosted from start the softkeys at the bottom.
I only had 2 problems.
One was IGO Primo which couldn't be used in landscape mode and the other one was Swype which after each reboot said that the resolution is unknown but it was still working.
All the games and full screen apps worked fine for me the ROMs were fast and reliable.
What I needed was Sense. And as I can see no Sense ROM has softkeys and I know now why.
HypoTurtle explained it.
But we can still hope to a solution but right now I am gonna stick to 3rd party apps.
So thanks a lot again for the tips and help.
Not really what you were asking but Button Saviour works good for me. Same here about only seeing the buttons when you want and no permanent screen area loss. My 2c
@NYLimited: that's really funny...
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@NYLimited: that's really funny...
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Hey, that was an old one! I change that line at least twice a week to make sure it doesn't get too dirty...
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I have been using Gyrator 2. So far so good. But if the keyboard doesn't increase in size when you rotate the screen I don't see a huge advantage other than reading text or email on wider screen.
With the iPhone, yes I said the bad word, when you rotate the screen your keyboard changes making it easier to type on. That's what I'm really looking for. Something that will change the keyboard to a more finger friendly keyboard when rotated to landscape. Anything out there that can do that?
Also, any way to shrink those huge black bars when you rotate the screen at the top and bottom? I was noticing the top title bar (black bar 1) and the bottom soft menu bar (black bar 2) are HUGE in landscape mode and take up way too much real estate. It would be nice if those screen disolved and only appeared if you tapped the header/footer in a screen. I hope that made sense. Anythign apps than can do that? Or am I wishing on star.
Make sure you're using the default HTC keyboard, not the WM original one. The HTC keyboard (called full QWERTY in the input picker) does change and fill the entire screen widthwise when the screen is rotated.
shueflie, I am. And you're right. It does fit the entire screen but for some reason it sure doesn't seem bigger. Maybe it's just me. I guess it has to be getting bigger...but for some reason it still seems like too many keys squeezed in.
Are there any replacement keyboards, say something like a standard letter only keyboard, and then you press something for numbers only, and then something for special characters only? My fingers are too big.
Try the phone keypad in portrait mode (either with or without T9) and see if that suits you better. There are other keyboards available but I haven't tired any of them
Will give it a shot. If you can direct me to a link with more keyboards I'd appreciate it, in the meantime I'll use the almighty search and see what I can dig up.
derrickonline said:
Will give it a shot. If you can direct me to a link with more keyboards I'd appreciate it, in the meantime I'll use the almighty search and see what I can dig up.
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Plenty of keyboards out there. Do a quick search in Themes, Applications and Software and you'll find what your looking for!!!
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May also want to check Wiki to ensure keyboard software works ok, Programs/Utilites & Games working on the Touch HD (1 - M) & Programs/Utilites working on the Touch HD (N - Z)
Wow an entire wiki, that's what I'm talkin' about. Thanks!
derrickonline said:
Wow an entire wiki, that's what I'm talkin' about. Thanks!
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Not all software is shown on these lists. Best option is to do a search for keyboard in Themes, Applications and Software.
If your unsure about anything, refer to this and it should answer most questions you have!
Hello!
I am looking for a launcher. I don't want a panel, I don't want a today screen plugin - I want a regular program exe so that I can remap my x-panel button for quick access... Ideally it would be very customizable, look good, use next to no space or ram, cost nothing, and cook me pie. Mmmmm... pie...
Anyway, that is just idealism... bare essentials - I want a screen of icons, shortcuts to programs that I choose. It should be something along the lines of smaberg's action screen, only not using the power button and giving me the choice of what to put on it.
Anything like that out there?
Oh, and on a side note, great forums, really saved my bacon when the phones came with the dreadful Swedish all over them.
i use this :
http://www.fantasticbytes.com/products/launchmanager
not free though but i think there's a pie-making function in there somewhere ...
Hey thanks, that seems to do the trick! No pies though... but other than that, it works great.
Do you want an additional 'THREE' customizable homescreens on your Hero? Well, there's an 'app' for that! HA!
First, I'm not sure if doing this has any bugs or inherent problems, and I am not responsible for any problems you may encounter doing this! BUT, I haven't experienced any so far myself.
Anyway, I stumbled onto this by using the Home Switcher app. When I saw how it launched the original Android Home app, that gave me an IDEA.
Using an application called 'Bar Control', I setup a Taskbar ICON to launch the native Android 'Home' application which, if you ask me, 'extends' the Hero with an additional three homescreens. I simply pull down the Taskbar and tap Home to launch the original Android Home app which gives me access to three more homescreens. AND, a simple tap of the Home button takes me back to HTC Sense.
So, I now have TEN (10) homescreens!!!!! These additional native Android homescreens are where I put some Android widgets (non HTC Sense widgets of course). And get this, the two Sprint widgets, NFL Mobile Live and Sprint TV, are available too! The Hero uses the same Wallpaper for both HTC Sense and Home, but it unlocks the native Android wallpaper gallery too.
Steps I did:
1. Downloaded Bar Control from the Market.
2. Launched Bar Control and waited for it to scan all the programs.
3. Scrolled down to the app called, 'Home' and selected it.
4. Selected an ICON of choice. (I used the same home ICON)
5. Pulled down my Notification Bar, tapped 'Home, and WALLA!
Simply hit the Home button to return to HTC Sense.
Note: To get rid of this Home ICON in the Notification Bar, simply perform the first three steps above again which will remove it.
OK, now can anyone tell me of a simple shortcut app that can be set to launch the native Android Home app without having to go through the Taskbar via the Bar Control app in my example above?
So, I believe this is the GREATEST HERO HACK so far!
When two unused screens just aren't enough lol, nice find.
Not really an hack if you ask me... why don't you install a few extra homescreen replacement apps (like openhome) so you'll even have more homescreens
this is not a hack at all. installing apps and using them as intended is as far away from a hack as could be. please change the title, this is so lame...
btw, i would love to have my homescreens scrolling "round", meaning if i swipe screen #7 (the most right one) to the left i want to go to screen #1 (the most left one). anybody know if this is possible?
kendong2 said:
btw, i would love to have my homescreens scrolling "round", meaning if i swipe screen #7 (the most right one) to the left i want to go to screen #1 (the most left one). anybody know if this is possible?
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I would like to know this as well, I sort of wonder why htc didn't design it like that.
DaWeav said:
5. Pulled down my Notification Bar, tapped 'Home, and WALLA!
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[PEDANTRY-MODE]
It's "Voila" not "Walla"!
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Sorry, couldn't resist - to me, it's like fingernails on a black board!
Regards,
Dave
lol, the same happens when you install any theme app such as open home, dxtop, etc...
What happens is, the default for the home button is cleared of it's default (HTC Sense) giving you the option which home screen you want to fire up after holding down the home button.
You could probably just clear the default yourself in App settings, limiting the need for another app all together.
Downloading a home screen app equals hacking your phone?
give him a Break it was his first post.He was over zealous on his find..LOL
well atleast he let us know about his find.sum peeps probably wouldnt had even shared..thx DaWeav
Yup, just to elaborate on what N0J mentioned:
menu/settings/applications/manage applications/HTC Sense
tap "Clear defaults"
Now, every time you push your "Home" button you will be presented with the options "Home" and "HTC Sense." As long as you don't check the default box you will always have a two-touch access to either interface.
Alternatively, for those that prefer vanilla Android to Sense, check the default box and hit "Home." Your phone will no longer load the Sense UI. This can be reversed by going to Home in manage applications (above) and again clearing defaults.
cgraunke said:
Yup, just to elaborate on what N0J mentioned:
menu/settings/applications/manage applications/HTC Sense
tap "Clear defaults"
Now, every time you push your "Home" button you will be presented with the options "Home" and "HTC Sense." As long as you don't check the default box you will always have a two-touch access to either interface.
Alternatively, for those that prefer vanilla Android to Sense, check the default box and hit "Home." Your phone will no longer load the Sense UI. This can be reversed by going to Home in manage applications (above) and again clearing defaults.
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Well said and thanks for the detailing the steps out for me!
Dang. I thought this was actually going to be some useful information that could lead me to getting rid of the 4 unused homescreens
This isn't a hack and not much of a discovery but if it makes you happy...
Would be kind of cool if Sense had 10 screens of its own.
nice find! But yes, 7 home screens is a little much. until we find some better widgets.
kendong2 said:
this is not a hack at all. installing apps and using them as intended is as far away from a hack as could be. please change the title, this is so lame...
btw, i would love to have my homescreens scrolling "round", meaning if i swipe screen #7 (the most right one) to the left i want to go to screen #1 (the most left one). anybody know if this is possible?
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GDE Home Screen does this
edit: by the way this is a dumb "hack"
I'm assuming this works for vanilla android as well? One of the most annoying things about my Moment that my Hero does is only having 3 screens.
Does anyone know how to REMOVE any of the homescreens from sense?
My hero is so slow!
I really hope that as part of an update to Sense that they make it so you can have any number of screens so long as it's 2X+1. (1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11)
Personally, I only really use 5, so I would just drop the last 2 screens and have the little indicator get a tiny bit larger.
Someone needs to develop a new home screen manager. One that instead of just moving left to right moves up and down as well. This way screens are always just one flick away instead of 2 or more depending on where you are at. It would be like a cube where the main homescreen is in the middle and the other 4 screens would each be in a direction (up, down, left, right). Moving from one of those screens in a direction (up, down, left, right) would result like moving from the home screen. So more than just a cube. A little more complex. I'll develop it if someone can help me along. Just an idea i had when looking at the linear movement of the ui.
Unfortunately I don't have any of the required skills or time to match even 1% of the ability of the Android development community but I'd definitely second this request. A very unique idea and I really like it.
BTW, a big thanks to the devel community. Without you guys fulfilling my gadget whore needs, I'd be buying a new device every week!
This is cool..maybe even an option in the notification bar to switch screens while in an app? Like the Linux desktop cube?
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Rather than write something from scratch, maybe you could try to contribute this as an option in ADW.Launcher?
This has already been done before on a certain rom. I remember it being ported to the vogue android. I cant remember the phone it was ported from though. Blur or something.
Gde home had exactly this feature
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Actually there were a few Windows CE based home mangers that had this feature. I also would love to have this. I asked a while back and got no response as to if there is anthing out there that did this.
wouldnt it be kinda hard to keep track of which screen is in which direction? like it seems orientation would feel very complex. but maybe not, i dunno
SLOflatlander said:
wouldnt it be kinda hard to keep track of which screen is in which direction? like it seems orientation would feel very complex. but maybe not, i dunno
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I could see something like dots on the edge of the screen kinda like how launcher pro does it.
SLOflatlander said:
wouldnt it be kinda hard to keep track of which screen is in which direction? like it seems orientation would feel very complex. but maybe not, i dunno
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Wait'll you see the home screen replacer I'm building based on a tesseract.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract
You just need to turn your head sideways to keep track of what face you're on.
Who doesn't want 24 home screens?
For a 4 or 5 way slide/cube desktop, look at Dx Top. It has not been updated for a while but is stable and can use themes built for many of the other desktop replacements.
I have been running it over many ROMs and it works on all so far. Was a little funny with the app drawer on SkyRaider, it kept rebuilding the icons for some reason, that might have been due to installing too many icon packs.
Thanks for the support on this guys and the answers. i'm going to do some research and see what can be done/ported or if needed then created. Just trying to do like most people and think outside the box. Its what makes android 1000x better than the iphone/ipod scene. They are so restricted. i mean come on. 1 button. But keeping on topic, i really appreciate no flaming on the topic.
I have seen several posts with this question, but none with answers. Has anyone found a way to move the soft keys to one side or another? I keep hitting them when I type (did it while typing this ironically). Never did make sense to me to have a touch sensitive home button right underneath one of the most often used buttons on the typing board. In any case, I have scoured the net looking for an answer and can't find one. Any know if I missed it somewhere? Thanks in advance.
Try a tablet mod ROM, it has the navigation keys bunched up in the bottom left corner. Hope this helps.
Where?
Appreciate the info. Where do I find that one? I have seen a lot of different ROMs for N7, but nothing denoted as "tablet ROM" and none that have mentioned moving the soft keys as a feature.
sikagoon7 said:
You can also. Change the DPI to 160 and achieve the same effect. Tablet UI on Nexus 7
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Sorry for the n00b questions, but this is my first tablet...where do I change that? I have looked though the settings and have not seen a place to do that. I am running a rooted but (almost) stock ROM. (Manually loaded 4.1.2) And will that change the rest of the viewing area?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788518 remember to select tab mode during the installation
Lazarus there is alternatives as well. Team EOS rom allows you to completely hide the softkey interface. I eventually went with gmd gesture control which allows you to hide/show the keys at the flick of your hand, as well as much, much more.
Try the lite version here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodmooddroid.gesturecontroldemo
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toidimaet said:
Lazarus there is alternatives as well. Team EOS rom allows you to completely hide the softkey interface. I eventually went with gmd gesture control which allows you to hide/show the keys at the flick of your hand, as well as much, much more.
Try the lite version here
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This looks like an awesome little app. But I don't see where to hide the nav bar. Is that one of the Pro features? (It is a sweet little app either way.)
Billchen0014 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788518 remember to select tab mode during the installation
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This sends me back to JB 4.1.1 though doesn't it? I have already upgraded to 4.1.2 (Though at this point I could not tell you what the difference is other than home screen rotation.) I didn't know 4.1.1 well enough to know it. Only had the tablet a few days.
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Might be, it definitely is available in the pro version though.
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