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Hi, i'm a little bit scared about modifying it. Is there a real big difference in performance between the stock rom and a custom with a kernel at stock frequencies? And i've seen a lot of methods about unlocking/rooting it, but i am scared if i brick it... Is there a 100% safe method to unlock and root it? And i've heard about a problem with the buggy stock recovery, will i have this problem if i flash cwm?
Sorry for the huge number of questions and for my bad english
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Personally I found that there is not a great deal of difference between stock ROM and many of the custom ROMs out there. For me it is more to do with having the freedom to get tore into the tablet.
There is never a 100% guarantee that yo won't mess up when rooting and installing custom software, however the vast majority of users on here have managed to do it safely with the tools available.
If you are going down the path of rooting and customs, may I suggest you give the team EOS ROM a try coupled with Franco kernel. They work together like a dream. Also paranoid android ROM for something different . Though I found it to be a little slow for my liking.
Finally clemsyns elite kernel if you want crazy performance, but it does eat the battery
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Rooting is quite painless and reasonably safe if you follow the directions closely. The one click rooting methods, elsewhere in this forum...work well.
Myself, I prefer the stock rom. The custom roms might offer better performance, but can be buggy at times. although. I do switch back and forth to try them out. Remember, these roms
are all works in progress, so do not be surprised if something does not work the way you think
it should.
Thanks for the answers. I'm thinking about only rooting it. Will i receive the ota for a new update?
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As long as you keep the stock recovery you can keep doing ota updates
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In my experience, OTA never worked to well.. but there are ways around it, for example... backing up your apps, then load a fresh updated factory image. then just restore your apps..
Titanium backup is one such app, but there are others .
So far no matter what I try I cant brick it oh I can get it stuck but theres always a way to fix it. And like some others here I have tried I believe every ROM out there. Not one really stands out "different" for ME then any other. Nexus root toolkit is by far the easiest to use for me. If your into battery life so far Stock wins hands down.
Unlocking and rooting the Nexus is really simple and pretty much foolproof. I'll admit there isn't that much of a difference between stock and custom ROMs because the N7 with JB is already a beast. I just like custom ROMs because you have the ability to make it faster if you want to (I have my CPU over clocked by 500 MHz and my GPU over clocked by 300 MHz thanks to clemsyn's elite kernel) the only reasons why I wanted to put a custom ROM on this was because I missed the 3 in 1 shutdown menu and the ability to remove the notification shae toggles, other than that I don't mess with much because JB is already buttery smooth. Gone are the days when you have to root, OC and install custom ROMs just to get good performance out of your device like I had to do with the OG droid.
I would definitely at least root the device for the time being. Aside from some customization options in a few custom ROMs I actually really enjoy stock on my N7... I would also take a look at ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905961 once you have it all ready to go... I found it made an improvement to my Wifi and GPS by a fair bit, no custom rom needed.
Hi guys, I'm totally new, as in I know not a thing about rooting or changing the ROM or anything, and after 1.5 years of owning this on stock android, it's time to take the plunge and see what ROMs are efficient and fast.
From what I heard, the ROM is like the OS. Do I need to Root in order to change the ROM? If yes, how long does it take? If not, how long does it take?
That's it for now, I am interested in the newest and fastest ROMs, I think CM 10 was one of them which I was looking at.
Yes you need to be rooted... you can search in Google on how to root the nexus as though I highly recommend going to 'nexus s hacks' website for a good tutorial :thumbup: and yes I do suggest cm10 with Marmite kernel
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Thank you! Is it a quick process? Or will it take hours? And, are there any cons to switching to a new ROM?
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Thank you! Is it a quick process? Or will it take hours? And, are there any cons to switching to a new ROM?
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The pros are that u can customize ur phone any way u want and u get rid if the unwanted junk apps that ur cell provided makes u have when u get a phone... its called bloatware! Custom ROMs speed up ur phone and once u get used to it, then u can add a better kernel and other tweaks that will keep u and ur friends in awe.
Its a quick process.... less than 30 minutes
But
read, read and read some more.
Ur only as good as the info u read and understand cuz if u flash(install) an improper ROM then ur phone is dead!
So Google some searches for ur phone only and read of possible errors & tips so u know where to look in case u screw up.... cuz we all do screw up.
Roms: look at the development section and see what ROM interest U. I wouldn't flash a different kernel until U actually know what one is. And dont be to concerned with themes until u pick a stable ROM cuz some ROMs already come themed.
Good luck and do not take some of the smartalics or jerks on these threads to serious.... they mean well but are just tired of the same new Rooter's ignorant questions they just forgot that they were once new to all this.
And if someone does help u then hit the "thanks" button below the reply since some of these guys need them or it just makes them feel better about using their time to actually reply to ur needs. I myself can care less for them but I've read enough that some developers need them for status and money backing to their ROM's development hard work and time.
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You can also use a one-click-root tool. This will root your phone with your just one click. Its as easy as that. I highly recommend you to Google that as well. I used this as well as the method described on http://www.nexusshacks.com.
WARNING 1: UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER WILL ERASE ALL DATA ON YOUR MEMORY. MAKE A BACKUP OF YOU MOST IMPORTANT STUFF!!! You will have to unlock your bootloader only once. afterwards, you can flash as many ROMs as you wish to, without losing any of your data on the storage.
WARNING 2: Be prepared to get heavily addicted to XDA
WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY!!!
Thank you!!
I am extremely busy with school.. hopefully I find the time (a couple of hours) to root my phone and get a new ROM running..
And hopefully I don't get ADDICTED!! Haha!! But I have a feeling I will..
So, once I unlock the bootloader, and flash a new ROM, everything else is erased right, and I start from scratch? My contacts are the only thing saved on my SIM card/Google account?
And secondly..what ROM do you guys recommend, the one I am looking towards is CM 10, it is the latest and that's the one I've heard the most when it comes to ROMs..
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Thank you!!
I am extremely busy with school.. hopefully I find the time (a couple of hours) to root my phone and get a new ROM running..
And hopefully I don't get ADDICTED!! Haha!! But I have a feeling I will..
So, once I unlock the bootloader, and flash a new ROM, everything else is erased right, and I start from scratch? My contacts are the only thing saved on my SIM card/Google account?
And secondly..what ROM do you guys recommend, the one I am looking towards is CM 10, it is the latest and that's the one I've heard the most when it comes to ROMs..
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There are many ROMs out there that are awesome ! It just depends on you taste though and yes when you unlock your boot loader everything in your phone is erased but you can backup your contacts to Google account and I'm running on slimbean because I love the dual pane mode
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OnlySkills said:
Thank you!!
I am extremely busy with school.. hopefully I find the time (a couple of hours) to root my phone and get a new ROM running..
And hopefully I don't get ADDICTED!! Haha!! But I have a feeling I will..
So, once I unlock the bootloader, and flash a new ROM, everything else is erased right, and I start from scratch? My contacts are the only thing saved on my SIM card/Google account?
And secondly..what ROM do you guys recommend, the one I am looking towards is CM 10, it is the latest and that's the one I've heard the most when it comes to ROMs..
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Yeah its all erased. I use Google voice for backing up all my texts, voicemail call log etc... its also a great way to never miss a text or call... just go online or open up the app.
Backup ur files to ur computer and then root. Then put back ur media files... music, movies & pics.
Always sync Google acct b4 flashing and
I recommend the newest slimbean 3.0 also since it has everything including a great kernel.
Happy flashing
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I recommend using MMetal Dragon Overlord 4.1.2 because it is extremely smooth! although its not even close to cm10 on tweaking and modding base. A cm10 stable has just been released, so check that out as well!
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WOW...1.5 years using nexus with stock rom?
what an ......... (don't know what's the best word to say, LOL)
marvellous....
to have your phone rooted is just take less than 1 hour (if and only if you've already had all files needed and no errors occured )
My Nexus S is just stand for 3 days using it's Stock ROM, LOL
don't worry...being a crack flasher is not a crime.. LOL
welcome to the rooted Nexus company then....
don't forget to backup all your datas before doing all rooting processes
for some reason CM10 Nightly 11-23 version + matr1x v24.0 (OC'd @ 1320mhz) is the FASTEST combination for my i9023 so far.
Temple Run Brave doesn't lag at all.
After 6 years with iPhone Operating System my 3GS left me and took the kids so here I'm enjoying this brave new world.
6 hours stuck with stock
At first I got cm10 thinking that was already 4.2 because I used gapps 4.2
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I've had my NS for a year or so now...and I thought very long before finally taking the plunge to root & flash Althought I have only flashed 2 different custom ROMs so far, I am constantly looking for furthermore to enhance my phone. Initially I only wanted to root to get to overclock my phone and for BLN access, since my only grudge with the NS was that it didn't have the notification LED. But now I'm totally absorbed by the various extra settings and customisations that these custom ROMs bring with them
I haven't used a 1-Click tool for rooting so the initial process to unlock the bootloader & root took me quite some time...but after that flashing the ROMs and kernels is only a matter of minutes. I definitely recommend it!
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But now I'm totally absorbed by the various extra settings and customisations that these custom ROMs bring with them
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Totally agree with you on this. My only regret is that i should have made this jump much earlier .
I was also unhappy about no notification lights on the Nexus S. I just tried the CM 10 ROM and was surprised that the touch keys light up for notifications.
ROM better Stock
I prefer use custom rom (4.2 for nexus S) because reactivity and performances are better.
Why use 1GHz phone when you can have 1,4GHz....?
Custom rom = Customisation
With custom rom you can custom all in your device
And you can have the latest version of android
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slab62 said:
With custom rom you can custom all in your device
And you can have the latest version of android
Send form Nexus S on android 4.2
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Amen to that. I'm still discovering and tweaking 4.1.2 though!
I recently rooted and installed a custom rom on my phone and noticed huge improvements. Noticed my nexus was lagging on things that I would think shouldn't be that taxing on the device. Thought the OTA update to 4.2 would help but it didn't. Would rooting it get rid of that lag or is it just a nexus thing?
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I recently rooted and installed a custom rom on my phone and noticed huge improvements. Noticed my nexus was lagging on things that I would think shouldn't be that taxing on the device. Thought the OTA update to 4.2 would help but it didn't. Would rooting it get rid of that lag or is it just a nexus thing?
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Personally because of the big change over from 4.1 to 4.2 i decided to go back to stock for awhile and wait for the bugs to be sorted.
Re-unlocked and rooted, flashed faux kernel and is the best experience i have had to date. Meaning the least lag. Stock and custom kernel. Just unlock - root and then flash kernel. :good:
Not a detailed description but if you need further advice just say so......Just means unlocking installing CWM and SU...Then flash kernel of choice. recommend faux..
I've tried out a rooted nexus 7 and to be honest didn't see a huge improvement so I've decided to wait until Key Lime Pie comes out and see if they sort out the bugs otherwise I will root.
Kind of discouraging
root doesnt automagically improve the devices performance, its what YOU do with root access. oh, and what lag? not the tiniest bit of lag on my device. custom rom/kernel, and some optimizations. couldnt be happier. btw, mostly whatl root does is let you use root apps. you dont need root to flash custom roms/kernels. but you do need an unlocked bootloader. with root, you can control that rom/kernel, get to the devices main file system, change whatever you want, and otherwise be in complete control of your device.
I get my nexus 7 today, after a hour I rooted it, just for ad block plus and the ability to customize the navbar. Love root.
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I've tried out a rooted nexus 7 and to be honest didn't see a huge improvement so I've decided to wait until Key Lime Pie comes out and see if they sort out the bugs otherwise I will root.
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There will most likely be more updates to 4.2 before Android 5.0 comes out.
I personally think it does make it better. It all really matters how you use your tablet and what you put in it like the Kernel you install. Roms it really doesn't matter really what you get but I have always been a big fan for CM since first getting the G1, nexus one, the HTC G2/Desire z and it has always been the fastest rom for me.
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root doesnt automagically improve the devices performance, its what YOU do with root access. oh, and what lag? not the tiniest bit of lag on my device. custom rom/kernel, and some optimizations. couldnt be happier. btw, mostly whatl root does is let you use root apps. you dont need root to flash custom roms/kernels. but you do need an unlocked bootloader. with root, you can control that rom/kernel, get to the devices main file system, change whatever you want, and otherwise be in complete control of your device.
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I had thought you needed SU access in order to flash a custom rom. Or is that just to use CWM which needs SU? Anyways if you unlock you must as well root it.....yes....!
Yeah as a few people have already said root alone will do mouthing for performance faux kernel, as far as I'm concerned, is a great addition to this great tablet.
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I actually get a lot of performance lag. Might be from alot of email sync but still it shouldn't have a half second delay after lock screen and moving between screens etc.
And I thought I would need to root to get my bootloader unlocked? I'm sure it's easier for the nexus than my HTC One X. Which was kind of a pain.
Yes using different roms and or kernels will make a massive difference to performance and or battery life but thats determined by which kernels and roms you use some are built for speed others for battery. If you had searched the forum you would have found this :silly:
Root will break some apps.
Just wanted to mention that unlocking your bootloader and rooting will break a few apps for the Nexus 7. I was all gung-ho to root my Nexus the first week I had it. Then I discovered I could no longer stream cable tv to it with Time Warner Cables app. Google Wallet also wouldn't let me link any cards to it's app while rooted or with an unlocked bootloader. A quick skim of the forum shows that rooting breaks streaming functionality on other subscription video apps as well. Depending on how you use your tablet, this might not matter to you. I ended up going back to stock for now, just because I wanted to use these apps. There is probably workaround, but I just didn't want the extra work....around. I think the Nexus 7 ultimate toolkit might let you gain temp root, I don't remember for sure tho.
Rooting will not effect performance at all. Your just gaining access to the root directory. It's what you do after that effects performance. Also just rooting does not effect the wallet app at all, this is wrong information. Wallet does a root check for security purposes and will show "unsupported device" within the app after rooting. Ignore that, it is just a root notification. Cards add correctly and it functions correctly. I can't speak on the other apps mentioned, but ill take a stab in the dark and start at user error
Custom roms will definitely increase performance. Stock 4.2.1 is a bit laggy, I recommend flashing liquidsmooth and see the difference!
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I stream movies using Flixster with my rooted N7. It's simple if you are rooted with Supersu. I go to settings in the Supersu app and uncheck Enable Superuser. After I finish streaming, I go back and enable it again.
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Hi friends.
I just bought an Nexus 4, I always had iPhones and this is my first Android phone!
So, I am loving it but I am getting really annoyed with this whites that are not really whites!
I found in another threads (yes, I used the search a lot) that the screen can be calibrated by using the "Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro" app in a rooted phone. I also found this wonderful thread with a tutorial about how to root the phone.
My questions are:
- In this tutorial it shows how to flash the stock Android. In this spreadshet I found some configurations, but also saw a lot of people using "Faux" kernel. Why I would use this other kernel? Can I just use the stock one?
- After rooting the phone, if an update shows in my phone can I just update it?
- Is makes a difference if my phone have a difference revision (like being produced in January and not in October)?
I appreciate the help!
F0rB1z0n said:
Hi friends.
I just bought an Nexus 4, I always had iPhones and this is my first Android phone!
So, I am loving it but I am getting really annoyed with this whites that are not really whites!
I found in another threads (yes, I used the search a lot) that the screen can be calibrated by using the "Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro" app in a rooted phone. I also found this wonderful thread with a tutorial about how to root the phone.
My questions are:
- In this tutorial it shows how to flash the stock Android. In this spreadshet I found some configurations, but also saw a lot of people using "Faux" kernel. Why I would use this other kernel? Can I just use the stock one?
- After rooting the phone, if an update shows in my phone can I just update it?
- Is makes a difference if my phone have a difference revision (like being produced in January and not in October)?
I appreciate the help!
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1. as far as I know you can't configure the colors using the stock kernel.
2. as long as you're in stock kernel you should be able to update it OTA. (I think)
3. I guess not. I mean some rev_10 users here says that their phone isn't having any major issues while some rev_10 users does. same thing with rev_11.
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My suggestion is to take it slow, and don't root your phone unless if you have a legitimate reason for doing it. I have a Nexus 4 that's rooted because I wanted the CM10 quick setting panel, but my Nexus 7 is not rooted because I don't use any apps that require root on it. My first android phone was the I9000, and I had to root it because I needed to use Titanium Backup - the first few updates released by Samsung does a full wipe, so TB is a must have to backup app data.
Root is Android's equivalent of Window's Administrator User. It allows you to do things that a normal user account cannot do (hence Super User). To root your phone, you must unlock your bootloader first. Note that this is not the same as unlocking an iPhone. As a security feature, unlocking your bootloader will wipe everything on your phone, apps, photo, videos, music, younameit. Read the sticky guide on how to backup your phone before unlocking the bootloader.
1) Kernel is the interface between the software and the hardware. It's a bit like the drivers on the computer. Some kernels offer extra functionality, for example overclocking and undervolting. Again, if you don't need the extra functionality, you may as well stay with the stock kernel.
2) Updating OTA might remove root, but it won't lock your bootloader again. There are ways to retain root after an OTA update. I have no idea which thread the relevant information can be found, but the next time Google release another OTA, the threads will resurface again.
3) No difference.
You don't need a custom kernel to play with the colours ....
I'm on stock ROM and kernel and use faux clock app to change screen settings
Just requires root
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italia0101 said:
You don't need a custom kernel to play with the colours ....
I'm on stock ROM and kernel and use faux clock app to change screen settings
Just requires root
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thanks for correcting. I wasn't sure.
My hat goes off to hauwei and Google for building this handset.
I have been using a galaxy s6 for the past year rooted and tweaked to the best of my knowledge and what could be mustered with the closed source and exynos7420. I have been using the 6P for two days and honestly I'm considering something I thought I wouldn't try...... Stock no root. I have always rooted my devices and played round with them built a popular rom back in the gt540 days but this phone this beast I'm actually considering stock.
So my question currently cyanogenmod shows nightly builds but no stable builds, so unofficial at best and it looks to be the same for a lot of other roms as cm seems to be the major base for 90% of roms now, so what are currently the advantages of these builds or the builds based off stock?
Obviously there is adaway and Xposed and viper4android but in terms of build performance battery life and stability is it worth moving off stock atm?
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Danzano said:
My hat goes off to hauwei and Google for building this handset.
I have been using a galaxy s6 for the past year rooted and tweaked to the best of my knowledge and what could be mustered with the closed source and exynos7420. I have been using the 6P for two days and honestly I'm considering something I thought I wouldn't try...... Stock no root. I have always rooted my devices and played round with them built a popular rom back in the gt540 days but this phone this beast I'm actually considering stock.
So my question currently cyanogenmod shows nightly builds but no stable builds, so unofficial at best and it looks to be the same for a lot of other roms as cm seems to be the major base for 90% of roms now, so what are currently the advantages of these builds or the builds based off stock?
Obviously there is adaway and Xposed and viper4android but in terms of build performance battery life and stability is it worth moving off stock atm?
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CM definitely isn't the base for most (or even a small percentage) of ROMs on a Nexus, most ROMs are based on the official aosp source. Most ROMs that I've tried are as stable as stock. What are the advantages? Added features. You're probably better off of gaining extra features via a custom ROM with those features built in, than gaining them by adding Xposed modules to the stock ROM. If you need instructions on unlocking/flashing/rooting this device I have a detailed guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
PS. As per the rules, please only bump a thread once every 24 hours, it had only been exactly 94 minutes in this case.
Heisenberg said:
CM definitely isn't the base for most (or even a small percentage) of ROMs on a Nexus, most ROMs are based on the official aosp source. Most ROMs that I've tried are as stable as stock. What are the advantages? Added features. You're probably better off of gaining extra features via a custom ROM with those features built in, than gaining them by adding Xposed modules to the stock ROM. If you need instructions on unlocking/flashing/rooting this device I have a detailed guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
PS. As per the rules, please only bump a thread once every 24 hours, it had only been exactly 94 minutes in this case.
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I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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Danzano said:
I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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No, Nexus devices do not have any sort of flash counter. Though, during the first 1-2 months of the 6P release, rumor had it that the phone has a blowable QFuse, which would be irreversible if you unlock the bootloader.
However, later on the skepticism was wiped away, and it was clarified that nothing as such exists. Yes, the QFuse exists, but its completely unrelated.
Danzano said:
I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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No flash counters or anything like that on the Nexus, never has been and probably never will be. It is first and foremost a development device, it just happened to catch on in the mainstream too. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask, we have a great community of people helping out in the guide thread.
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No, Nexus devices do not have any sort of flash counter. Though, during the first 1-2 months of the 6P release, rumor had it that the phone has a blowable QFuse, which would be irreversible if you unlock the bootloader.
However, later on the skepticism was wiped away, and it was clarified that nothing as such exists. Yes, the QFuse exists, but its completely unrelated.
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Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
Danzano said:
Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
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My advice: don't use a toolkit. They can make things easier sometimes but easier isn't always a good thing. They've been known to cause issues, and there's really no substitute for ensuring things go right by doing it yourself. Plus, if you're going to be modifying your phone, you really need to have a good working knowledge of fastboot, especially on a Nexus. That's what will get you out of trouble if it arises.
If you're looking for a pretty stock-like experience but with some great features added I'd recommend trying out Pure Nexus, it's a rock solid ROM with useful extra features. I have links to all ROMs (and basically anything useful for this device) in my index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/index-huawei-nexus-6p-t3213583
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My advice: don't use a toolkit. They can make things easier sometimes but easier isn't always a good thing. They've been known to cause issues, and there's really no substitute for ensuring things go right by doing it yourself. Plus, if you're going to be modifying your phone, you really need to have a good working knowledge of fastboot, especially on a Nexus. That's what will get you out of trouble if it arises.
If you're looking for a pretty stock-like experience but with some great features added I'd recommend trying out Pure Nexus, it's a rock solid ROM with useful extra features. I have links to all ROMs (and basically anything useful for this device) in my index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/index-huawei-nexus-6p-t3213583
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Fantastic thread mate ill be getting my study pants on haha used to use fastboot with my one x and the g2 but havent in awhile so ill go make sure im all up to date before I pull the trigger
One last question if ive already downloaded my whole spotify playlist 8GB can I pull that from the phone with adb backup and restore it so i dont have to re download everything pretty sure its encrypted so not sure it can be done.
Danzano said:
Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
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Depends entirely on your choice. If you want to learn more about your device and how things work on it, you can perform things by yourself. Doing it manually also helps you keep a track of things that are going on, so if somehow your device is stuck, or not functioning as it should, you can always track back the source of the issue. And since you performed it yourself, you will know it better.
On the other side, toolkits have their own benefits. If you just want to perform procedures without much hassle and automate everything, you can go for them. All the toolkits here is the 6P section have proved useful to many users. You can try all of them, and see which one works better for you and your phone.
I for once have tried SKIPSOFT Android toolkit, offers a lot of functions. At the same time, there is Squabbi's Nexus 6P Toolkit, which has a more user-friendly interface, and much simpler to use.
Personally, I don't prefer toolkits, they could be buggy, at times. And have never suited my purpose.
Danzano said:
Fantastic thread mate ill be getting my study pants on haha used to use fastboot with my one x and the g2 but havent in awhile so ill go make sure im all up to date before I pull the trigger
One last question if ive already downloaded my whole spotify playlist 8GB can I pull that from the phone with adb backup and restore it so i dont have to re download everything pretty sure its encrypted so not sure it can be done.
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That depends, is it just stored in a folder on your internal storage or is it stored as app data?
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That depends, is it just stored in a folder on your internal storage or is it stored as app data?
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I believe its stored as app data because even with root explorer on the S6 I couldnt find it but if I looked at the app size in the S6 app manager it didnt show the music as part of the apps usage if that makes sense.
Ill try pull data and see if it works if it does ill be sure to post it as it could be a life saver for others who once they start flashing wont stop
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I believe its stored as app data because even with root explorer on the S6 I couldnt find it but if I looked at the app size in the S6 app manager it didnt show the music as part of the apps usage if that makes sense.
Ill try pull data and see if it works if it does ill be sure to post it as it could be a life saver for others who once they start flashing wont stop
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Well it'd only be an issue right now due to the bootloader unlock process wiping your internal storage. It isn't necessary to do so when flashing ROMs so the data would remain intact through ROM flashes.
Heisenberg said:
Well it'd only be an issue right now due to the bootloader unlock process wiping your internal storage. It isn't necessary to do so when flashing ROMs so the data would remain intact through ROM flashes.
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If I have developer options enabled on stock could i not adb pull all data?
If not ohwell just means my connection will get another day of thrashing lol
So dirty flashes are not a big issue on the nexus roms? or you mean backup data in twrp and restore after the rom flash?
Danzano said:
If I have developer options enabled on stock could i not adb pull all data?
If not ohwell just means my connection will get another day of thrashing lol
So dirty flashes are not a big issue on the nexus roms? or you mean backup data in twrp and restore after the rom flash?
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Yes you should be able to use adb pull to grab the data. What I meant was that'd only be necessary if your entire internal storage is about to be wiped, like prior to unlocking the bootloader.
And no, definitely don't dirty flash when changing ROMs, and definitely don't restore the /data portion of a nandroid backup on a different ROM. Both will cause major issues. What I meant about that was sometimes some of the data (your playlist for example) is not stored as a part of the app, but is instead stored in the internal storage. Because the internal storage itself isn't wiped during a wipe preceding a ROM flash (a clean flash involves wiping system, data, cache, dalvik cache) the playlist would still be present on your storage after flashing the new ROM.
Anyway, the whole point was in response to your comment about it being useful to frequent flashers, when in reality it (adb backup) is only really ever needed once (before your storage is wiped during the bootloader unlock). Sorry if I'm not making sense, I don't feel like I am haha.
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Yes you should be able to use adb pull to grab the data. What I meant was that'd only be necessary if your entire internal storage is about to be wiped, like prior to unlocking the bootloader.
And no, definitely don't dirty flash when changing ROMs, and definitely don't restore the /data portion of a nandroid backup on a different ROM. Both will cause major issues. What I meant about that was sometimes some of the data (your playlist for example) is not stored as a part of the app, but is instead stored in the internal storage. Because the internal storage itself isn't wiped during a wipe preceding a ROM flash (a clean flash involves wiping system, data, cache, dalvik cache) the playlist would still be present on your storage after flashing the new ROM.
Anyway, the whole point was in response to your comment about it being useful to frequent flashers, when in reality it (adb backup) is only really ever needed once (before your storage is wiped during the bootloader unlock). Sorry if I'm not making sense, I don't feel like I am haha.
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That makes sense almost got all the updated sdk tools now so will get to backing up then rooting just wanted to double check on the backing up because i have to nuke the internal storage when i unlock the bootloader
On pure nexus now with elementalx kernel well worth it
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Danzano said:
On pure nexus now with elementalx kernel well worth it
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Nice
Unlocking bootloader.
Quick question regarding unlocking bootloader on 6p.
I understand that unlocking will trigger the software verification warning when starting the phone. If I return completely stock at a later date and re-lock the bootloader will the verification warning be disabled?
I'm not new to the rooting/flashing thing and have modified all of my previous Androids, but there are conflicting reports as to whether this is the case. A couple of videos on YouTube make it appear that the message is disabled after a return to stock.
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Quick question regarding unlocking bootloader on 6p.
I understand that unlocking will trigger the software verification warning when starting the phone. If I return completely stock at a later date and re-lock the bootloader will the verification warning be disabled?
I'm not new to the rooting/flashing thing and have modified all of my previous Androids, but there are conflicting reports as to whether this is the case. A couple of videos on YouTube make it appear that the message is disabled after a return to stock.
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Yes, the message will disappear if the bootloader is relocked. That's the only way to remove it. Not sure if you need it but I have a detailed unlock/root/flash guide for our device here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928