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Quad core Note possibly

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/25/samsung-announces-1-4ghz-exynos-4-quad-as-basis-for-galaxy-s3/
Looks like Samsung could easily update the Note by swapping the CPU chip.
Maybe even get aftermarket updates to existing Notes?

ill take 2gbs of ram too

Hmm ill take dual quads plz
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I don't see any reason to switch to a device with that SoC. It uses an overclocked Mali-400 which we can achieve on our Note and the quad core thing is null as most apps don't support more than 2 cores. I would much rather prefer the Exynos 5 series which uses dual A15 chips and the superior Mali T604.
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lol.....you are just assembling smartphone

I would like to have 4 GB ram. 320 GB sd card. 2 GHz quadcore.
And laser gun like in bond movies.

well the current quadcore also seem to be a little bit warm... if samsung wanted to produce a galaxy note 2 they should wait till the quadcore-problems are away and spend a little bit more ram into our devices.

Indeed. same opinion.
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how much would everyone pay to have that 'King of Notes' shown in the video?
It would be pretty fantastic if we could do an aftermarket mod, but I presume 1: its soldered to the motherboard. 2: You can't buy it separately.

If I could actually swap my current cpu for that cpu then hell yeah I wouldn't mind.
The stock battery should hold up pretty well, maybe bring it down a bit.
But if it costs over $150 then forget it, I'd rather wait for the Note 2, because the original note is godly, and i know for a fact that the note 2 will be as well.
Despite all the so called "problems" with the original note, i still love it!

Spartoi said:
I don't see any reason to switch to a device with that SoC. It uses an overclocked Mali-400 which we can achieve on our Note and the quad core thing is null as most apps don't support more than 2 cores. I would much rather prefer the Exynos 5 series which uses dual A15 chips and the superior Mali T604.
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Agreed. I'm in the stupid position of wondering if I should wait 6 months or so for that mythical Note 2 or just buy the current one next week. My Xperia Play is getting long in the tooth and I don't see a version 2 of it coming anytime soon.
First world problems eh

Runadumb said:
Agreed. I'm in the stupid position of wondering if I should wait 6 months or so for that mythical Note 2 or just buy the current one next week. My Xperia Play is getting long in the tooth and I don't see a version 2 of it coming anytime soon.
First world problems eh
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You can either get it now, and when it comes out within the next month or two you'll regret it and beat yourself up over it
OR
Wait that month or two to get it, like in the Hindu culture, if you suffer now you will be rewarded later.
P.S. Sorry if i got the hindu culture wrong, i'm not indian.. im just a chinese person who lives in australia

or wait 1-2 months and find that it isnt even out

ebhsimon said:
You can either get it now, and when it comes out within the next month or two you'll regret it and beat yourself up over it
OR
Wait that month or two to get it, like in the Hindu culture, if you suffer now you will be rewarded later.
P.S. Sorry if i got the hindu culture wrong, i'm not indian.. im just a chinese person who lives in australia
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In your dreams is going to launch samsung the note 2 next month.
Basic market strategy
1- Launch a device at a time, if you launch more you are doing yourself competition, if you launch one now the other in 6 months a lot of users will replace the device every half year
2- Give the product a market life, launching a lot in little time will annoy your market base and you will lose customers.
We will see the first "leaks" on maybe September and a launch in November as the closest date as the galaxy 3 is already delayed comparing to the S2 "one year life"
And in other side, being the S3 hardware a minor upgrade with the same A9 (even if its quad), same gpu, same 1gb of ram, you will not lose a lot with the actual note hardware, in fact it could be worse if doesn't use physical buttons and steal of us real state of the screen to use in ****ty virtual buttons.

Yeah Kersh is right. It isn't going to happen in a couple of months. It will be (at earliest) around a year after the original note launched. So October-November time.
Also worried about them removing the physical buttons. Not sure if I want that or not. At least they might add a notification light...

shure2 said:
how much would everyone pay to have that 'King of Notes' shown in the video?
It would be pretty fantastic if we could do an aftermarket mod, but I presume 1: its soldered to the motherboard. 2: You can't buy it separately.
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hmm?
you do realise it is a normal galaxy note in that vid, dont you?
read the text at the bottom, it says exynos 4 dual. the chip in our notes is an exynos 4210, which is still technically an exynos 4.
samsung are following intel's tick-tock approach. theyre making a chip with the same core components as the previous chip to iron out all the bugs first (exynos 4212 is more or less the same as the exynos 4210 with a die shrink), and then they'll test out the quads on their new 32nm process to iron out the bugs. once theyve fixed the bugs and the process has matured a bit more, then they'll release the 'tock' step, exynos 5.

I would much more prefer Samsung tweak the os so our notes can do more things a netbook would be able to do.

no point to have quad core cpu atm, no appz uses even dual core so it is just for having higher benchmark test score ^^

Souai said:
hmm?
you do realise it is a normal galaxy note in that vid, dont you?
read the text at the bottom, it says exynos 4 dual. the chip in our notes is an exynos 4210, which is still technically an exynos 4.
samsung are following intel's tick-tock approach. theyre making a chip with the same core components as the previous chip to iron out all the bugs first (exynos 4212 is more or less the same as the exynos 4210 with a die shrink), and then they'll test out the quads on their new 32nm process to iron out the bugs. once theyve fixed the bugs and the process has matured a bit more, then they'll release the 'tock' step, exynos 5.
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There's also no evidence in the kernel sources of any new Note other than the Note 10.1 (which appears to be called "p4-note" in the I9100 update4 defconfigs) - which will be 4210 and not 4212.
It's hard to tell which devices that are getting 4x12 CPUs are getting updated dual and which are getting quad - the defconfigs all imply quad, however it looks like the code can automatically determine what it's running on at runtime and enable the extra cores if necessary without a kernel recompile.

I better wait for the new Note. If Note 2 (or maybe Note S) will be similar to Galaxy S3 quad core and 1,5GB-2GB RAM - I better wait for Note 3. I'm completely satisfied with the current device.

The next big thing?

Hey Guys,
i was thinking about buying a new smartphone. Now that Samsung and HTC both have released their flagship device for 2013 I did some research and ended up with the Galaxy S3, the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S4 in mind. I'm having some trouble to make up my mind about these smartphones. I compared them considering their performance. (excluded the S4 with octacore tho) and found out that basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
I watched some video reviews as well and found out that these devices are pretty much equal in everyday performance. (opening apps and websites with maybe 1 second difference at most) The Nexus 4 stuck out a bit because unlike the S4 and S3 almost had no stuttering or dropped frames in the UI while even the S4 had a few.
So I'm not really sure whether the S4 is worth it for me, as I'm probably not gonna make frequent use of all the gimmicks and stuff. The 16 GB Nexus 4 is even a bit more expensive than the S3 now and the timely updates for the N4 are no dealbreaker for me as i will flash custom roms on the S3 anyway. The Nexus 4 however has no replacable battery and no sdcard slot.
Please correct me on these statements if they are flawed or simply incorrect.
Also I heard about the Snapdragon 800 and Nvidia Tegra 4 (maybe even the Exynos Dualcore of the Nexus 10 which is supposed to be released as Quadcore soon?) which are basically the next big thing when it comes to processors. I thought the S4 would make a HUGE jump (and the octacore version actually does) but it didn't. Now I wonder whether i should wait for the next generation of processors/smartphones. (I don't want to wait longer than Q4 2013)
I would appreciate your help a lot!

schnip said:
Hey Guys,
i was thinking about buying a new smartphone. Now that Samsung and HTC both have released their flagship device for 2013 I did some research and ended up with the Galaxy S3, the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S4 in mind. I'm having some trouble to make up my mind about these smartphones. I compared them considering their performance. (excluded the S4 with octacore tho) and found out that basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
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A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here

Joe0Bloggs said:
A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here
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thank you for cluttering the thread and posting bull****

Why are you disregarding s4's superior screen and resolution?

schnip said:
So I'm not really sure whether the S4 is worth it for me, as I'm probably not gonna make frequent use of all the gimmicks and stuff. The 16 GB Nexus 4 is even a bit more expensive than the S3 now and the timely updates for the N4 are no dealbreaker for me as i will flash custom roms on the S3 anyway. The Nexus 4 however has no replacable battery and no sdcard slot.
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Maybe you should wait for the "S4 Nexus" that will be released June 26th (if you live in the US, of course). It will aggregate the best in hardware and software and will come with an unlocked bootloader.
Between the N4 and the S3, if you're gonna flash a custom rom, get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos). It has a removable battery and sd card slot which always helps.
Regarding the processors you've mentioned (Snapdragon 800 and Tegra 4), it doesn't matter much if the software is not optimized. Just look at TouchWiz, even with a brutal processor there are lags and stutters. IMO processors are powerful enough nowadays to provide a smooth experience in the UI and with games, but the software is not optimized and good enough to use all those cores wisely. OEMs further 'helps', clogging the system with bloatware.

pedrohz said:
Maybe you should wait for the "S4 Nexus" that will be released June 26th (if you live in the US, of course). It will aggregate the best in hardware and software and will come with an unlocked bootloader.
Between the N4 and the S3, if you're gonna flash a custom rom, get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos). It has a removable battery and sd card slot which always helps.
Regarding the processors you've mentioned (Snapdragon 800 and Tegra 4), it doesn't matter much if the software is not optimized. Just look at TouchWiz, even with a brutal processor there are lags and stutters. IMO processors are powerful enough nowadays to provide a smooth experience in the UI and with games, but the software is not optimized and good enough to use all those cores wisely. OEMs further 'helps', clogging the system with bloatware.
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Thank you for the informative post
i have made similar experiences when comparing android to ios. the hardware is actually brutal but its not enough to compensate for the rather unoptimized software. unfortunately i do not live in the US and even if I did it wouldnt make much of a difference to me as i could flash custom vanilla android on the S4 anyhow.

schnip said:
i have made similar experiences when comparing android to ios. the hardware is actually brutal but its not enough to compensate for the rather unoptimized software. unfortunately i do not live in the US and even if I did it wouldnt make much of a difference to me as i could flash custom vanilla android on the S4 anyhow.
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I understand. Just be sure to get the S4 model with Snapdragon 600, as the 'S4 Nexus' will use it instead of the Exynos octa (no LTE). Then once its stock rom is released by fellow devs you can flash without issues

CorruptedSanity said:
Why are you disregarding s4's superior screen and resolution?
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actually i dont disregard it. for me the screen is one of the few improvements that really have a noticeable effect on everyday performance. unfortunately it comes at a great cost when comparing 300€(S3) to 600€(S4). I think the S3 is far more worth than only 1/2 of an S4
pedrohz said:
I understand. Just be sure to get the S4 model with Snapdragon 600, as the 'S4 Nexus' will use it instead of the Exynos octa (no LTE). Then once its stock rom is released by fellow devs you can flash without issues
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Ok thanks for the advice!
Edit: " get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos)"
As far as my research goes:
The exynos is the quadcore version whereas the snapdragon version of the S3 is dual core.
The quadcore version usually does not have 2GB ram but i found some spec sheets that had Quadcore + 2GB RAM (LTE version)
Id say better have quadcore instead of dualcore and 2GB ram right?
Edit 2:
Unfortunately i cant get the 2GB version with dualcore in Germany.
I can order
Exynos Quad 2GB RAM LTE and
Exynos Quad 1GB RAM no-LTE
I dont really need LTE but is the 1 GB of extra RAM worth the 50€? (apprx 65$)

schnip said:
basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
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schnip said:
Please correct me on these statements if they are flawed or simply incorrect.
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Joe0Bloggs said:
A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here
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schnip said:
thank you for cluttering the thread and posting bull****
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You asked to be corrected on your statements in the OP and that's what I did. Either you misued the comparison symbols or you thought both the S3 and N4 do benchmarks better than the S4.
I did what you asked people to do and an insult is what I get in return?
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Galaxy S4 stuck on Chinese

I recently bought a used S4, everything looked fine until I tried to reset in preparation for entering my account info. The language has changed to Chinese. I found a thread on here about how to fix this, but I cannot get my phone into download mode. Holding vol -, home and pwr it boots up as normal. Vol +, home and pwr put it into the "Factory utils" menu. I've included a pic of the "System info" screen under factory utils in the hope someone can tell me what is currently loaded on this phone and how to fix it.

sbacchus said:
I recently bought a used S4, everything looked fine until I tried to reset in preparation for entering my account info. The language has changed to Chinese. I found a thread on here about how to fix this, but I cannot get my phone into download mode. Holding vol -, home and pwr it boots up as normal. Vol +, home and pwr put it into the "Factory utils" menu. I've included a pic of the "System info" screen under factory utils in the hope someone can tell me what is currently loaded on this phone and how to fix it.
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If i m not wrong its a clone / copy of samsung s4 not the original
Btw how much did u pay for this ?

123hiten said:
If i m not wrong its a clone / copy of samsung s4 not the original
Btw how much did u pay for this ?
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I paid the going rate for S4s, so if this is a clone I really got ripped

sbacchus said:
I paid the going rate for S4s, so if this is a clone I really got ripped
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As per me yes its clone only if possble upload some pictures so some one else also confirm the same

123hiten said:
As per me yes its clone only if possble upload some pictures so some one else also confirm the same
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attached are some more pics

sbacchus said:
attached are some more pics
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its clone 4 sure
Edit Uploaded picture is a original one

It's a clone, if you go to some sites like lightake or Ahappydeal you will find clone phones, S4 i9500, with these stats:
Highlights:
Type: Touch screen phone
Color: Gray
OS: Android 4.2
CPU: MTK6589 Cortex-A7 Quad Core 1.2GHz
ROM: 8GB
RAM: 1GB
IPS capacitive touch (Multi-point) screen
Network frequency: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz WCDMA 850/2100MHz
Dual SIM, Dual standby
Dual cameras (the back one with flash light and auto focus)
Wireless internet
Gravity sensing system
FM/MP3/MP4/Bluetooth/GPS function supported
Notice the Android version? In the pic you posted, your android version was 4.0.4, ICS. The S4 was released with 4.2.2 firmware.
Yours is an older clone. You were ripped off.

Sorry dude, but you just get ripped off. Even the camera position in back cover isn't look right
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1700Mhz A15 and 1500Mhz A7 running together with 640Mhz PowerVR SGX.

this really sucks, worse of all i can't even use the stupid thing as the language is stuck in chinese

sbacchus said:
I paid the going rate for S4s, so if this is a clone I really got ripped
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It's a clone, your pictures already shows that (smaller screen, camera not in the right position, CPU: MTK6589 Cortex-A7 Quad Core 1.2GHz)

[Q] Where should i buy my Galaxy s4, is galaxy s4 the best option ?

OK, i've been looking phones for days and 3 days ago i ordered a Galaxy s4 on Bestbuy for 500 $ ( tax included ).
I was going to buy a factory international unlocked verison on amazon for 350 $ ish , but i saw some bad reviews ( some say it's fake, some say it's refurbished ) and i decided rather just buy from bestbuy but it's been THREE days !!! they havent ship my phone yet.
Do you guys think i should just cancel the order and buy one from amazon or ebay for 350$, but i think those factory unlocked version doesn't have warranty at all !!
I need help !!

s4 its good phone u will enjoy:thumbup: and I always buy international version cos u get updates direct from samsung not from crappie networks
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.

noremac258 said:
If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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How does 300mhz fast help.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "

Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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noremac258 said:
Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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DeepankarS said:
Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon based chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.

noremac258 said:
There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon pased chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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But still the aggregate increase remains 21%.
Maths aint that tough brother. we are talking the same thing.
21% faster with no ext mem support, no IR blaster and tons of other features go missing. And still the wide acceptance and reputation of the S4 stands strong.
Plus here in India the S5 is almost the same price of a nexus 32gb. Why would one go for a "nexus" in that case too.
Plus Why not buy the google play edition Galaxy S4?
Where is the difference now mate? Just a processor. Camera, build quality, vendor reputation.??
Plus a S4 is A S4. Comparing processing speeds of different processors is no harm. Why do people then compare apple with samsung? Apple is still a dual core with a 1gb ram. So why are they bashed for hardware. I havent seen an iphone lag. (exclude i4 i4s)
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Stop guys, everyone comes here thinks "Damn, I came in a battlefield?" [emoji14]
Tastes are tastes, everyone of us has different tastes among all other... First, Nexus 5 is faster for CPU frequency and GPU is more powerful than S4 (talking about I9505 that beats i9500), S5 is faster than Nexus 5.
How many guys among you may use Nexus 5 at its higher CPU frequency? How many hours battery lasts?
In my opinion, I used a Nexus 5 (with CM11 as my S4) and found that I can't notice any speed difference in normal and heavy use between its 2.3GHz CPU and my S4 with this frequencies: 1 core 1.67GHz, 2/3/4 core 1.45GHz. Even in games, S4 can run any game for Android without problems.
What about Cameras? What about S4's AMOLED vs N5's LCD? What about display density? And IR blaster?
Nexus 5 is more brute force and developer-like, not the best for multimediality.
S4's cameras shoot definitely better, display is superior, has IR led built-in if you want to command your IR devices like televisions, air conditioners, set top boxes, xbox etc. And it's not all [emoji6]
I was almost selling my device to buy Oneplus One, but I can't because I love my S4 guys, it's too perfect in my opinion.
Don't do always and only the "run for GHz", think about everything else too
There are also tons of other things to say, but it's late here and I'm sleepy [emoji42]
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[Q] Lost GBs

I recently bought an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (second hand) for my daughter. She is using a T-Mobile SIM. When she first turned the phone on, it seemed to work perfectly. It wasn't until she had downloaded a few apps that she realized the Storage only showed 1.32 GB Total space with 1.17 GB available. The box indicates a total 32 GB. Where are they? We did a reset, but that didn't help. Then I tried to do a recovery (Up Volume, Power, Home), but the screen does not look like the video; it only shows three options: Recovery Mode, Fastboot Mode, and Normal Mode. When I selected Recovery Mode, I got the "dead droid" No Command error.
I then found a video that suggested "flashing Odin" using Down Volume, Power, Home. But instead of getting the Warning! screen, the phone flashed "FACTORY MODE" and then I saw a bunch of yellow Korean characters against a blue background. I'm at a loss as to how to work through this problem. Please HELP!

That does not look like a genuine Note 3. I think it's a fake model.
Also, the text is Chinese, not Korean.

jisoo said:
That does not look like a genuine Note 3. I think it's a fake model.
Also, the text is Chinese, not Korean.
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I agree, fake Note... You need to check what the processor is, if you can get it to boot, download Phone Info from playstore. It will tell you what type of processor. If the processor isa MTK**** then it's a Chinese knockoff..,

And a bad fake too. Don't you love your daughter ?
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ultramag69 said:
I agree, fake Note... You need to check what the processor is, if you can get it to boot, download Phone Info from playstore. It will tell you what type of processor. If the processor isa MTK**** then it's a Chinese knockoff..,
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I downloaded Phone Info, and it shows the processor ARMv7 Processor rev3 (v7I).
What now?

alsingingteacher said:
I downloaded Phone Info, and it shows the processor ARMv7 Processor rev3 (v7I).
What now?
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, using the*Samsung* app it tells me on my genuine Note 3 that the Hardware/Board is a qcomm/MSM8974 and the Platform/Chip is a MSM8974. This is the Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor.
Mine is a Quad core processor, your appears to be a Dual core according to this - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...stand-the-information-of-my-android-processor
and this thread from the Motorolla Razr thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403424
You have a fake Note 3...
Another page Ii found with the info you supplied - http://nativeboinc.org/site/detail_host/8436