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I have a rooted galaxy 7 and like it but the 199 deal has gotten my attention. So sell me on the xoom
Come on guys, help me out here
The Xoom has a high quality build, 10.1 inch screen, Honeycomb with ICS in progress (thanks Solarnz), sweet rom, Overclock to 1.7Ghz, playback of high quality videos, 32gb of storage, 5Ghz compatible Wifi, although the screen might not be the best quality, it's accurate and doesn't have issues (like lines or bubbles or anything) why the heck wouldn't you want it man? Have any questions, feel free to ask!
Will I need totally different chargers for it than the usual Micro usb stuff I have for my Incredible2? Does it play .Avi files?? I take it its easily rooted now and we have good custom roms? are there many Devels for it?
It does not charge off of Micro USB, it instead uses it's own motorola charger (which allows for much faster charging although obviously isn't as convenient. It sure does play .avi files, and rather well at that. I've never had an issue with them. There is only 1 real custom ROM (due to the lack of Honeycomb Source code until about 2 weeks ago). But it's rather nice in my opinion. The same developer that made those is also working on ICS at the moment and we're expecting some great things out of that. It is pretty easily rooted if you know how to work with adb even just a little.
Devels?
Pm sent What is ICS?
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It does not charge off of Micro USB, it instead uses it's own motorola charger (which allows for much faster charging although obviously isn't as convenient. It sure does play .avi files, and rather well at that. I've never had an issue with them. There is only 1 real custom ROM (due to the lack of Honeycomb Source code until about 2 weeks ago). But it's rather nice in my opinion. The same developer that made those is also working on ICS at the moment and we're expecting some great things out of that. It is pretty easily rooted if you know how to work with adb even just a little.
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There are two major development teams for the Xoom, Team Tiamat and Team Rogue. They're both terrific. I can't wait to see what they come up with for their ICS ports.
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There are two major development teams for the Xoom, Team Tiamat and Team Rogue. They're both terrific. I can't wait to see what they come up with for their ICS ports.
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Amen to that.
For your video playback need use Mxplayer.It plays all videos i throw to it.
The screen is average(not the best around),the build quality is awesome,the weight is just a bit heavier than ipad2 but its reasonable because of its build quality.
And its speakers sound quality is awesome! :0
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Pm sent What is ICS?
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ICS is Ice Cream Sandwich. its the latest verion of Android OS.it combines the goodness of honeycomb and gingerbread with alot of new features added
Bobby Buggs said:
I have a rooted galaxy 7 and like it but the 199 deal has gotten my attention. So sell me on the xoom
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Well I guess you need to be sold on Honeycomb plus taking on a $30 a month data plan. I saw the $199 deal and got mad at first since I paid $599...but the $199 deal requires you to get a $30/month plan...which if you crunch the numbers for 2 years doesn't look too pretty.
As for the Xoom itself, I have nothing but good things to say about it. As previous posters mentioned the build quality is great, a little heavy but everything about it feels "solid". I have to put the HDMI out as a big feature. Think of the Xoom as a media player/tablet will play *most* of your music/video/pictures, on the big beautiful screen or through HDMI to your TV... but then it's also a damn excellent Android tablet that runs Honeycomb and WILL get Ice Cream Sandwich. Xoom gets a bad rep cause of the 4G upgrade debacle and the fact that it's not an "iPad killer", but IDGAF about any of that and you shouldn't either. It's a sweet device, bottom line...don't let "market share" stray you from Android tablets.. If anything to stray you beware of that Verizon deal because at the end of the contract you'll have spent over $900. If you already have a data plan on your Galaxy Tab then that might not be a big issue.
i just got it, i was afraid about the screen but i find its really good. I must say i have the sharp panel and except for a some ghosting,its doing very well. The acer iconia 500 has a real ****ty screen, you can see some thin lines all over the surface,colors are washed out and there is as much ghosting as for the xoom. On the other hand the asus transformer has vibrant colors and deep back, but the tactil layer is very visible and i dont like that. The xoom doesnt have all these isues. On most benchmarks it is often first or second. The battery use is the best than all devices for watching movies, every reviews agree about that, and it is the faster for charging.
Just hope you can get the sharp screen and not the auo ... this stuff is really boring, everyone should have the same device because we all pay the same price.
enjoy and welcome to the family. I was just about to toss my hat in the ring for this one but then I saw you picked one up. Good move. I recently bought a wifi version off of craigslist for $225 then found the moto fold case and standard dock for $40 (total). Sure the xoom is old... but that doesn't mean spit. Check out speck comparisons between the xoom and any new tablet today over at theverge.com. spec for spec the xoom is hanging with them all PLUS a barometer. I'm quite happy with my purchase. plus the dev scene is pretty active. The xoom is a GREAT buy still.
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Just hope you can get the sharp screen and not the auo ... this stuff is really boring, everyone should have the same device because we all pay the same price.
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How would I know the difference.
I love my Xoom. It has a great build quality, the screen is great (I don't care if it isn't IPS, you won't notice it unless you do a side-by-side), it's the Google Device so easy to root, great speakers, and you get used to the power button easy (and I actually prefer it to the power buttons placed on the rim.)
It's also funny to give people the Xoom and watch them try to find the power button. But it's really a fantastic device that is probably only outclassed based on its screen.
It charges fast, too - like, REALLY fast. I think it has to do with it having two 3150mAh batteries and the proprietary charger. I thought the charger would be a nuisance but when the battery on my Xoom is low, I throw it on the charger for half an hour and it's up to 50% charge. It's fantastic in every way IMO.
I also got mine wi-fi 32GB refurbished for $329, and I do have a stuck pixel, but it doesn't bother me in the same way dust under my phone screen is a minor nuisance.
Don't forget the ROMs and kernels out there - I've tried them all and they've brought nothing but great improvements to my Xoom. I specifically love Tiamat's quick controls - the Xoom makes a good albeit awkward flashlight!
I'd only bother to sell it to you if I were getting commission. Go take a look at it and decide for yourself if it's worth $200 on contract. 8 months ago, I thought it was worth $600 on contract. I was wrong. They've finally delivered on the promises and I was able to cancel my BBB complaint.
I'm not sure it's worth paying $400 more than you in order to pay $10 less than you per month for data. You would still come out ahead by $160 without taxes. If I'm able to transfer this data plan to my next tablet, that would be good.
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I would like to know the answer to this as well.
Edit: Never mind, Found it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159038 unless that is no longer relevant.
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I would like to know the answer to this as well.
Edit: Never mind, Found it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159038 unless that is no longer relevant.
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That discussion is still relevant. With a few exceptions, the Xoom screens are quite good...you would know it if you had a bad one, and you can't really tell by whether it's Sharp or AUO.
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That discussion is still relevant. With a few exceptions, the Xoom screens are quite good...you would know it if you had a bad one, and you can't really tell by whether it's Sharp or AUO.
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Alright cool, I was mostly referring to the commands to see which specific screen you have and such. But as you said, you cant tell by brand alone. Heres to hoping my xoom has a good screen
Picked one up for 199.99 for the wife she had been wanting a tablet with a ffc and data already included. This was a no brainer for me she doesn't care for wifi only versions that much because she really enjoys the back up of having data built into something. First impressions we both love it, I have a first Gen Ipad but I am sold on android tablets now after playing with hers for just a few minutes. Can't wait to pick up an android tablet for myself in the near future.
Selling now, minor nicks from being in pocket but none on screen, clear protector since day one. No issues.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...1313&_nkw=Nexus+One&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Screen Protector = $5
Donation to Rom developer = $25
Nexus One = $Priceless
For everything else there is XDA
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Selling now, minor nicks from being in pocket but none on screen, clear protector since day one. No issues.
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Why Not Give to A dev Who really works on nexus ones
where can we find rom developers? Not guys who just want free phones and do little to nothing.
Well I guess it'd be worth around 35-40 bucks in its current state. Sell it, keep it or hell even give it to a ROM developer such as texasice.
Any good ideas on repurposing it? I'm in the same boat.
Have a contest ... I had a T-Mobile wing that I give as a prize to my fans for supporting my music it was a random pick from number a kid in Netherlands only 9 won it =) n 3 yrs later he's still one of my biggest fan
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If you are in the states, donate it to the armed forces serving overseas.
send pics to [email protected] and i might buy it
I want to badly acquire a Nexus One send me the pics also (you can PM here on the site, much easier I reckon)
and just name your price on the pm
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I want to badly acquire a Nexus One send me the pics also (you can PM here on the site, much easier I reckon)
and just name your price on the pm
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Are you sure there isn't any better phone in the same price range? I mean, Nexus One is an OK phone, but it's bettet to put more money on a phone that doesn't have the obvious flaws of the N1.
Need I state them? Shouldn't have to.
The nexus one is an awesome phone, it's htc and not loaded with crappy sense, it means that comes with aosp, so we have aosp kernels and roms straight from google. The galaxy nexus is to expensive, plus it's plastic, as the nexus s, samsung has a good hardware but they are soap dishes. N1 has teflon and metal coating and with the corning glass its nearly indestructible, and its has a hardware to run nearly everything you throw at it. And the trackball is priceless.
My bro has a pyramid, its a good phone for sense. But theres no aosp experience cause they dont have the kernel, he is running cm7.1 kang (yes only kang exists) they have no hardware acceleration, my n1 beats that twocored monster.
If you are not a gamer, than you wont notice the multitouch problems, as the matter of fact i never noticed it.
So yes, the N1 is still a good phone, and it's worth to buy. For me there's no better phone in the market right now, maybe the Atrix 4G.
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Are you sure there isn't any better phone in the same price range? I mean, Nexus One is an OK phone, but it's bettet to put more money on a phone that doesn't have the obvious flaws of the N1.
Need I state them? Shouldn't have to.
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I don't have much money to work with anyways and on eBay it goes around for 80-110 bucks, which fits my budget.
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The nexus one is an awesome phone, it's htc and not loaded with crappy sense, it means that comes with aosp, so we have aosp kernels and roms straight from google. The galaxy nexus is to expensive, plus it's plastic, as the nexus s, samsung has a good hardware but they are soap dishes. N1 has teflon and metal coating and with the corning glass its nearly indestructible, and its has a hardware to run nearly everything you throw at it. And the trackball is priceless.
My bro has a pyramid, its a good phone for sense. But theres no aosp experience cause they dont have the kernel, he is running cm7.1 kang (yes only kang exists) they have no hardware acceleration, my n1 beats that twocored monster.
If you are not a gamer, than you wont notice the multitouch problems, as the matter of fact i never noticed it.
So yes, the N1 is still a good phone, and it's worth to buy. For me there's no better phone in the market right now, maybe the Atrix 4G.
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I am not much of a gamer, on my iPhone the only multitouch game I have is Street Figher IV (as is left thumb on buttons and right thumb on other buttons) and all the other games are one touch (if that is what you call it) Angry Birds, Cut the Rope, Where's my Water, Football Manager Handheld and etc all one touch.
So gaming is not my major concern, I just want a smartphone that does my calling and texting, where I can read my ebooks, watch some videos, listen to music, browse the web and etc.
Yes, i meant multitouch games, my friend has a hd2, so when i say gamer i mean "gamer" , but i haven't noticed there either i played samurai vengance or what? without problem. I think multitouch is alright it is just, not the same like in an iPhone for example.
As i said, really like my phone, the size is perfect, it is not plastic, the hardware is old but enough, we have a bounch of aosp roms, kernels, stable as hell.
The other obvious problem he was referring to was the power button that stops working...
who didnt have that problem?
I had mine fixed under warranty twice in it's first year... (before rooting and installing a rom..) now since it's got a rom, I barely ever use the power button since you may unlock the screen using the trackball or volume button (thank goodness for that!)
Dont get me wrong, it's a great phone, great finishing too, but the hassles of the power button would make me think twice about getting another one...
I've had the N1 since launch 2 years ago & still never faced the power button issue. I never even took any precautions to prevent it. I've upgraded to Galaxy Nexus and sadly passed down the N1 to my gf. Running MIUI for the eye-candy factor & she thinks it's the best phone ever made. haha.
While shopping between phone providors, at first I upgraded to the SGS2, & didn't notice much of an upgrade from the N1. So that speaks highly of the 2 year old phone's performance & build.
Got my N1 more than a year ago, and I'm still happy to play with. Broken power button, too, but still enjoy flashing "any" rom. Yeah, actually it's not my primary phone, just sort of gun with which I can learn more and more about android. Love it in every pieces coz it rocks till today...
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Got my N1 just 2 weeks after it came out, that’s basically 2 years ago, and I haven’t had any issues with it. Everything is working as it should, no power button problems, and still using the original battery and can get over 37 hours from it. No root and have latest OTA update. So the only known issue that pops up from time to time is the touch screen unresponsiveness, and the lack of pinch&zoom pictures from Gallery, thanks to latest update. Just been lazy to root and fix that. I’ve compared to other phones I’ve got for the family like LG Optimus-T, two My Touch 4G and recently a Samsung Exhibit II 4G (just to be able to use it when I’m roaming or using a local SIM aboard and be able to connect to 3G/4G as it has all data bands). All for free from T-Mob due to my extreme loyalty to them; still I carry both my N1(with Simple Mobile) and MyTouch 4G, and I use 99% of the time the N1. It just feels good and I like how it performs. Sadly tough, I guess it’s time to move on and get the new Samsung Galaxy Nexus, although I’m not sure if it will be a big step forward, just because of ICS is incorporated in it. My teen daughter is just waiting to inherit my N1, but I think I’ll just give her my HTC Glacier, and keep the N1. So in few words, it’s still a great phone!
i'd be interested in this, too. how much?
I have owned several android tablets. I received my xoom from an eBay auction on Saturday...a 4g model. I spent about two hours getting the unlocked boot loader route and CWM. I then installed the EOS ROM.
I have spent the last couple hours customizing the device getting this software that I wanted on it.
Based on the four hours I have spent with the device all I can say is......WOW.
I purchased on of the first Android tablets...the white pos from China. In fact, i may have had one of the first android tablet specific groups....Slatedroid was spawned from a google group I started.
I say this to say....I've been in this space from the beginning....I know a good tablet when I see one. I boughT and rooted a nook color. Solid but slow I bought the woot gtab...surprisingly slow. They've always been nice...kind of fun....but never really a mainstay for me. I have a convertible tablet PC and I always went back to that, even for basic consumption. I researched tablets for about 4 months this time before i finally pulled the trigger on the xoom. it seems like this Xoom might actually work.
The browsing performance of chrome is fantastic...not much latency at all.
The responsiveness of the Xoom overall is great.
The price put it at a solid value...and I have the option of 4g when I want. It didn't break the bank, so when the next gen stuff comes out I can give this to my wife.
So far...I love this thing. I'm on it all the time...and that's the true test isn't it.
I really don't know how it could be improved...ics is solid...
I'm pumped !
Cheers!
Matt
Damn right! Dude try cornerstone....this thing is like a really sexy PC with it.....such a great value!
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I have owned several android tablets. I received my xoom from an eBay auction on Saturday...a 4g model. I spent about two hours getting the unlocked boot loader route and CWM. I then installed the EOS ROM.
I have spent the last couple hours customizing the device getting this software that I wanted on it.
Based on the four hours I have spent with the device all I can say is......WOW.
I purchased on of the first Android tablets...the white pos from China. In fact, i may have had one of the first android tablet specific groups....Slatedroid was spawned from a google group I started.
I say this to say....I've been in this space from the beginning....I know a good tablet when I see one. I boughT and rooted a nook color. Solid but slow I bought the woot gtab...surprisingly slow. They've always been nice...kind of fun....but never really a mainstay for me. I have a convertible tablet PC and I always went back to that, even for basic consumption. I researched tablets for about 4 months this time before i finally pulled the trigger on the xoom. it seems like this Xoom might actually work.
The browsing performance of chrome is fantastic...not much latency at all.
The responsiveness of the Xoom overall is great.
The price put it at a solid value...and I have the option of 4g when I want. It didn't break the bank, so when the next gen stuff comes out I can give this to my wife.
So far...I love this thing. I'm on it all the time...and that's the true test isn't it.
I really don't know how it could be improved...ics is solid...
I'm pumped !
Cheers!
Matt
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You are so right...Xoom is still the best overall tablet. With EOS and ICS 4.0.4 there is none better. I have been using mine constantly for a year and I have no immediate plans to replace it. It just keeps getting better, with the best developers around.
to bad chrome does not support flash otherwise it would be an awesome browser
So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.
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So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.
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Yes...I'm waiting for the hi-res....uber-core...units to come out. But Apple will never get my money. I don't want to discuss that here.
That's why I bought this Xoom used...to save some scratch, and cred with the wife, so I can get the latest and greatest in the fall.
My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
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So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.
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Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...
That white pos from China wouldn't happen to be the Huawei s7 would it? Lol, that was my first tablet back in '10.
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My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...
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My Samsung E4GT has a"dynamic" screen setting that literally burns my retinas...I have to leave it on standard, lol. I love my Xoom screen...seems more natural, not so aggressive. And I'm a painter so I love me some colors! Go figure.
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My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...
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One what. I loved my Xoom from the day I bought it but its outdated now. Even on the android side of things, there are tablets coming out/out with higher resolution displays and more power under the hood.
I still use my Xoom, it's on my night stand as an alarm clock
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An Apple fan an an Android board lol
I loved my Xoom from the day I bought it but its outdated now. Even on the android side of things, there are tablets coming out/out with higher resolution displays and more power under the hood.
I still use my Xoom, it's on my night stand as an alarm clock
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Ive been disappointed so far. The TF Prime is a epic letdown. I mean really, where is this mystery super Android tablet hiding? Besides a Xoom running eos
Hi all,
I'm about to sell my 7.7 its a great device but the OS sluggyness (more than a second to unluck is not right) is getting on my nerves.
Its clear this isnt going to get any form of regular updates so to stave my losses on it I'm going to sell this now and ideally do so before the Google Tablet arrives.
Is a great machine but with the lack of dev community its a no go for any early adopters liking to play.
Real shame samsung.
btk
Is this where we post "Cool story bro"?
Just remove the lock option if its peeing you off,
i don't have it set on mine so its instant off,
also use another launcher or if you like the stock launch then just have it set with the single home screen,
i currently use the TW launcher with 1 home screen and 2 widgets no problems,
have come close to buying another tablet but there isn't one that feels as good a the 7.7...
I still cannot believe that the nexus tablet is going to be sold as cheap as it is rumored to be atm.
Anyways, let's say it really is: Then it would actually be a good idea to get rid of the unsupported tab 7.7 in time, as you could easily buy two nexus tabs for the money the 7.7 is valued right now.
I think there has to be a hook somewhere.
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Hi all,
I'm about to sell my 7.7 its a great device but the OS sluggyness (more than a second to unluck is not right) is getting on my nerves.
Its clear this isnt going to get any form of regular updates so to stave my losses on it I'm going to sell this now and ideally do so before the Google Tablet arrives.
Is a great machine but with the lack of dev community its a no go for any early adopters liking to play.
Real shame samsung.
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it is a really good idea i have a same feeling too
I guess I see it as a quirky exotic car. Not as reliable as a cheaper econobox, but 7.7 has my favorite combination of build quality, super thin form factor - yet great battery life, and awesome screen. To me there isn't enough improvement over the 7.7 with the Nexus Tablet that makes me want to swap.
As others have mentioned, swap out the stock launcher & browser, use NoLock, etc. I have tweaked around almost all the deficiencies of the 7.7 and have 99% of what I want in my perfect tablet. The only troublesome issues are this random looping reboot problem that we're discussing in the other thread I haven't been able to make headway with and also that i wish i could enable bluetooth phone profile on the Verizon version.
Maybe when more details are announced for Nexus Tab that make it more awesome, and if the damn random reboot problem on my VZ 7.7 keeps happening.
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I guess I see it as a quirky exotic car. Not as reliable as a cheaper econobox, but 7.7 has my favorite combination of build quality, super thin form factor - yet great battery life, and awesome screen. To me there isn't enough improvement over the 7.7 with the Nexus Tablet that makes me want to swap.
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I do sympathize with the OP. The 7.7 will be my last Samsung product. it's simply not acceptable anymore to launch a premium tablet without appropriate support when the software is just not adequate.
This said, I agree with above. It is still the "best" hardware on the market as far as 7" format goes, with the only possible upgrades being the processor and the screen (resolution wise; would make a huge difference for ebook reading - you get used to the retina screen). I'd have to wait to be tempted by any of the upcoming models, an still seriously hope Samsung will do the right thing and release ICS soon.
The main drawback compared to the Google offering will be the lack of phone option.
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I do sympathize with the OP. The 7.7 will be my last Samsung product. it's simply not acceptable anymore to launch a premium tablet without appropriate support when the software is just not adequate.
This said, I agree with above. It is still the "best" hardware on the market as far as 7" format goes, with the only possible upgrades being the processor and the screen (resolution wise; would make a huge difference for ebook reading - you get used to the retina screen). I'd have to wait to be tempted by any of the upcoming models, an still seriously hope Samsung will do the right thing and release ICS soon.
The main drawback compared to the Google offering will be the lack of phone option.
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100% agreed
There will be compromise, Mostly screen Nothing beats Amoled!!, no gsm 3g, maybe tiny battery , bigger chunkyer, not magnesium crappyer build quality. The reason the cpu will be good is because it will be mass manufactured, and thats why the price will be so affordable. I think.
I was reading a report online last week that spoke of them going into mass production with some CPU manufacturer, lets see as I have my good days and bad day with the galaxy tab 7.7....
Do wish they would kick the ICS out for this baby and we could see if worth keeping or not, but yes I totally agree with most people on this and Samsung has dropped the ball on this and will be my last Samsung product
I also agree with OP's point to an extent. I actually went from an original Galaxy Tablet, to the 7 Plus, and hate that Samsung does this to their customers. They got our money and forgot about after purchase support. If the 7.7 wasn't such a great device I wouldn't have went with another Samsung.
The next best device I would consider for myself would be the Toshiba Thrive 7.7 - also a SAMOLED+ screen, Tegra 3, skinnier than 7.7 but Wifi only and i really enjoy the battery life and built in LTE from the tablet w/ my 7.7.
be aware !
nexus tablet might lack 3g,LTE, rear camera to make it a affordable device.
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nexus tablet might lack 3g,LTE, rear camera to make it a affordable device.
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to hit the price point, those things are well worth the sacrifice.
unless your tablet is your sole device, most people will have a phone which can do all those other things. the tablet was meant to be a secondary device you can use which is inbetween completely portable (phone) and non-portable (desktop).
Humm, no 3g that sux. I use 3g for data.
WiFi at home 3g when I am not, thats a deal braker for me.
I don't have the 7.7 but having played with it in store, I can't imagine Google matching it in quality for the price point they want. That'd be a pretty incredible feat.
Given that I think it'd be a hasty mistake to sell. It sucks for ICS to still not be there but it'll come - and chances are good you'll have a better tab than Google's then.
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Got £340 in the end for the tab and have just spent £200 on the g7,sold just in time me thinks.
Feels like I got there just in time.
If 7.7 had Samsung support I wouldn't have swapped
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The Nexus tab is a competitor to the Kindle and Nook, i dont know why you would downgrade, give it a few weeks and ICS will be available.
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The Nexus tab is a competitor to the Kindle and Nook, i dont know why you would downgrade, give it a few weeks and ICS will be available.
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Yep though Tegra3 is superior CPU, I think once ICS drops, aside from Tegrazone games we won't notice any real life difference. The CPU @ 1.4 in our 7.7 is more than fast enough. Heck even my 1Ghz Tegra2 sony tablet s flies with ICS
The killer battery life and 3G is whats making me keep this instead of flogging and buying a Nexus 7 (at a profit too lol)
I agree with more or less all the comments on here, the built quality of the 7.7, weight, and that screen is amazing, but we have been waiting far too long for ICS and Jelly bean is around the corner. We have the advantage of a SD slot 3g etc but the hardware specs of the Nexus 7 is just better in terms of CPU GPU etc under the hood. In my opinion if you just use your tablet for casual use, browsing and consuming digital content then the Nexus 7 makes sense. for cheaper and better experience. But if you have loads of apps, content and you use your tablet as a travel companion and main device to create and produce things then the 7.7 is still a great device. I am in 2 minds right now, might sell up with all my accesories and get 2 nexus 7's one for the wife and one for me. Just not sure
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I agree with more or less all the comments on here, the built quality of the 7.7, weight, and that screen is amazing, but we have been waiting far too long for ICS and Jelly bean is around the corner. We have the advantage of a SD slot 3g etc but the hardware specs of the Nexus 7 is just better in terms of CPU GPU etc under the hood. In my opinion if you just use your tablet for casual use, browsing and consuming digital content then the Nexus 7 makes sense. for cheaper and better experience. But if you have loads of apps, content and you use your tablet as a travel companion and main device to create and produce things then the 7.7 is still a great device. I am in 2 minds right now, might sell up with all my accesories and get 2 nexus 7's one for the wife and one for me. Just not sure
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Just wait for ICS, with hopefull improvements it will blow the nexus tan out the water even if it has "better software"
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New to the forums, looking to by my first tablet. Not really interested in the ipad 3. I want a tablet which will be good for watching videos and playing a bit of games, also want a good web browser. Which tablet will be ideal out of these 3? My budget is $500, so the price factor doesnt really matter. Neither the s pen or the keyboard dock appeal to me. Thanks!
The Infinity would be the worst drain of money you could even consider. For its price, the hardware is underpowered - typing on it right now, Browser (stock, not Chrome - it's too slow to run Chrome smoothly) force closed (this is TF700 hate-post V2) and the keyboard froze for a good 10 sec when I got back in. Build quality and the like is down to chance, but even if you get a well-built one, the I/O sucks, Tegra 3 can't push 1080p without crying to its mother and to be honest, Asus' software updates are unreliable. The alarm clock's still broken from the one before last.
The Nexus 10, on the other hand, has the most powerful processor in any mobile device right now, and it is well-equipped to power the much, much higher resolution it has to offer. You can pretty much guarantee that it will provide you with the best Android has to offer on tablets both now and for a long time into the future. The Infinity is already obsolete.
Also, the Note's only real draw is the S Pen, though for some that is pretty significant (it's like a Wacom tablet computer). So if that isn't what you're after, save yourself some money and grab the Nexus 10.
The NEXUS hands down, 100%. It is the fastest Tab on the earth with the best screen of all. If only I did not buy a N7.
If I was looking to buy a 10in tab, then I would go for the nexus 10.
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The Infinity would be the worst drain of money you could even consider. For its price, the hardware is underpowered - typing on it right now, Browser (stock, not Chrome - it's too slow to run Chrome smoothly) force closed (this is TF700 hate-post V2) and the keyboard froze for a good 10 sec when I got back in. Build quality and the like is down to chance, but even if you get a well-built one, the I/O sucks, Tegra 3 can't push 1080p without crying to its mother and to be honest, Asus' software updates are unreliable. The alarm clock's still broken from the one before last.
The Nexus 10, on the other hand, has the most powerful processor in any mobile device right now, and it is well-equipped to power the much, much higher resolution it has to offer. You can pretty much guarantee that it will provide you with the best Android has to offer on tablets both now and for a long time into the future. The Infinity is already obsolete.
Also, the Note's only real draw is the S Pen, though for some that is pretty significant (it's like a Wacom tablet computer). So if that isn't what you're after, save yourself some money and grab the Nexus 10.
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I'm still within my return period at Best Buy -- and will be bringing my Infinity and dock back, and getting a Nexus 10. Build quality for mine is fine -- actually very solid, nice form factor, superb battery and nice display. But it IS a bit laggy, and between ASUS and NVidia, there's way too much in the way of arcane routines to go through in order to unlock, root and safely flash it. Nexus 10 promises to be a much better experience in this respect. I'll be getting the 32GB N10.
If the Nexus 10 had 3G then I don't think I would hesitate to chose it, I have a nexus 7 and I'm thinking about giving it to my wife and getting a new Nexus 7 32GB+3G version, from the look of how the nexus 7 is going, I may just wait for the Nexus 10 in a few months when they bring out the 64GB+3G nexus 10 (although 32GB is probably more likely, I may just hold out for the 3G version)
Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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are you serious? the pure Jelly bean is the best.. why would you want to replace it?
to your question, easy choice. nexus 10, of course. Im using a Note 10.1 and it sucks really bad.
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Thanks for the input guys. Do you guys think the nexus 10 will get custom Rom like the cleanrom on the tf700, because I would like flash lol.
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Nexii have classically been rom magnets, though there is always the danger that they've finally released enough to dilute this effect. Also important is the number of users, which is also correlated to the number of roms. The 10 inch android tablet is not proven (but this is probably its best chance).
CleanRom on the Infinity is an Asus ROM, trimmed lovingly. It's still a manufacturer ROM, though, and I would bet you 2 Nexus 10's that the Asus UI never makes it to the n10.
I returned my infinity for the reasons in post 2. I'm not bitter, I just think my $500 is better spent elsewhere when my phone is better than my tablet...
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Sorry for my horrible knowledge on the devices lol im new to all this, after all, I'm coming from an apple product. Will there still be a way to obtain flash on the n10?
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The NEXUS hands down, 100%. It is the fastest Tab on the earth with the best screen of all. If only I did not buy a N7.
If I was looking to buy a 10in tab, then I would go for the nexus 10.
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ya, till now the best u can say i guess :fingers-crossed:
Stock Infinity is a no no
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New to the forums, looking to by my first tablet. Not really interested in the ipad 3. I want a tablet which will be good for watching videos and playing a bit of games, also want a good web browser. Which tablet will be ideal out of these 3? My budget is $500, so the price factor doesnt really matter. Neither the s pen or the keyboard dock appeal to me. Thanks!
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It's not worth spending your money on TF700T because it lags crazy! I'm finally Unlocked (Clean rom 2.3) But what's the point? I just voided my warranty for a device that can't run smoothly without a Custom Rom. Get a device that actually runs smoothly without any type of tweaking.
My Infinity works great but It's not the same feeling like i had before i unlocked it (Fear of Bricking). I might even buy N10, Hopefully i don't get same experience i had on infinity.
Since that is cleared up, I would say Nexus 10 seems like a better deal in Hardware but If you want features like S-Pen and what not then Note is great. But at end of the day, you will be frustrated with slow OS than not having the features (S-Pen, Multiscreen)
Wait till there are couple of reviews for Nexus 10, I will not buy anything else until i see a video for it.
TF700T Disappointed me.
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It's not worth spending your money on TF700T because it lags crazy! I'm finally Unlocked (Clean rom 2.3) But what's the point? I just voided my warranty for a device that can't run smoothly without a Custom Rom. Get a device that actually runs smoothly without any type of tweaking.
My Infinity works great but It's not the same feeling like i had before i unlocked it (Fear of Bricking). I might even buy N10, Hopefully i don't get same experience i had on infinity.
Since that is cleared up, I would say Nexus 10 seems like a better deal in Hardware but If you want features like S-Pen and what not then Note is great. But at end of the day, you will be frustrated with slow OS than not having the features (S-Pen, Multiscreen)
Wait till there are couple of reviews for Nexus 10, I will not buy anything else until i see a video for it.
TF700T Disappointed me.
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Thanks, I guess I can wait a while and read some reviews
yea, if I were you I would avoid the TF700, especially if you don't want/need a keyboard dock.
It has a nice deisgn, and a great screen, but it is laggy as crap and I haven't rooted mine so the overall experience sucks.
On paper it's almost the perfect tablet. Unfortunately Asus really dropped the ball on this one.
I'm probably getting the Nexus 10. Then selling it if Asus makes a really nice Transformer replacement at CES. Or I'm switching to Windows 8. I have no idea what I want to do.
People , I was checking the App store , and found a good number of Apps supported for the tablet , Apple may boast a 275000 app selection , but many of them are just show off (like the brain explorer , titanic time) and so forth , they look good for a couple of weeks , until their charm fades away
The main ones are content comsumption apps , and the market has a handful of them (CNN , cnbc , even TV streams) Google docs on google drive is a charm to use.
PLus I wont be bogged down by itunes all the time ,
Nexus 10 is a definate buy if u r not in the apple ecosystem
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People , I was checking the App store , and found a good number of Apps supported for the tablet , Apple may boast a 275000 app selection , but many of them are just show off (like the brain explorer , titanic time) and so forth , they look good for a couple of weeks , until their charm fades away
The main ones are content comsumption apps , and the market has a handful of them (CNN , cnbc , even TV streams) Google docs on google drive is a charm to use.
PLus I wont be bogged down by itunes all the time ,
Nexus 10 is a definate buy if u r not in the apple ecosystem
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Mm. One of my key reasons for not buying anything Apple is to use one to its fullest, you need the whole iRange, and Mac has the disadvantage vs Windows when it comes to ecosystem (especially games) so I don't really want to.
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Mm. One of my key reasons for not buying anything Apple is to use one to its fullest, you need the whole iRange, and Mac has the disadvantage vs Windows when it comes to ecosystem (especially games) so I don't really want to.
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If you want a Mac and don't hate your money:
Buy a wicked Windows PC/laptop for 1/3 the price of a mac with comparable hardware
Do this
Use in full screen mode
Profit
To those who are saying the Note 10.1 and the Transformer Infinity are ****ty tablets, how could you possibly think that? Have you never used a Coby tablet running GB?
To answer the OPs question, don't buy a tablet at all. Tablets are transitional technology, they won't be around forever and the ones that are brand new depreciate in six months and become totally outdated in a year. Even if tablets weren't a completely pointless waste of money, even if you could find some productive use for it that would make it practical for you to own one, no matter what tablet you buy it will be totally outdated in a year. So I say spend your money on something else.
After having all three, I'm holding on to my Nexus 10. The my experience with the ASUS TF700 was frustrating, and after multiple returns for a variety of issues I got a "good" one. Stock it's a frustrating experience, and making the necessary modifications voids your warranty.
The Note was a great tablet, although I'm not a fan of TouchWiz it wasn't so bad. It stomped the TF700 in web browsing too. The S-Pen was a novelty for me though, so I figured I'd save some money.
The Nexus is a beast, no regrets.
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For your requirements, watching movies and playing games, I'd recommend:
1) Galaxy Note 10.1
The CPU/GPU and resolution are balanced right and all games are fast. Screen on battery life is consistently ~8 hours. Benefit is it's not just a consumption device but also creativity and productivity with pen for drawing, paperless note taking, etc. Price was dropped to $499 for 32GB version to compete with Nexus 10.
2) Nexus 10
Has potential but games need to be optimized for it and the ridiculously high resolution. Battery life, sound quality and screen quality are behind Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a brand new device so there are minor issues that need to be addressed with the upcoming OS updates.
Skip the Tegra3 Infinity. When looking at Google Play comments for games I always see people reporting performance and games not working on TF201/300/700 devices while it's fine on other devices. I had the Nexus 7 and some games like Nova 3, etc. are laggy while fine on the other devices.
Another option unless you're anxious to get something now is to wait closer to Christmas and hope for new devices to appear. A Galaxy Note 12" 1080p with 4-core Exynos 5450, 4GB DRAM, etc. would be ideal.