Hey guys I was wondering if there was a way to root the n10 without unlocking the bootloader first
I'm sharing my n10 with my parents who aren't very techy
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filthygoat223996 said:
Hey guys I was wondering if there was a way to root the n10 without unlocking the bootloader first
I'm sharing my n10 with my parents who aren't very techy
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yes there is a very easy way to do that you dont need to unlock your device for that. go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467 , download the nexus 10 toolkit and install the drivers , enable debugging on your device, then select root unroot options , from there choose root + install busy box , then select superSU. and you are good to go , root without unlocking or any custom recovery.
harrisfayyaz said:
yes there is a very easy way to do that you dont need to unlock your device for that. go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015467 , download the nexus 10 toolkit and install the drivers , enable debugging on your device, then select root unroot options , from there choose root + install busy box , then select superSU. and you are good to go , root without unlocking or any custom recovery.
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Great and does it work for multiuser?
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filthygoat223996 said:
Great and does it work for multiuser?
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absolutely. i havent tried though , but in theory it surely will.
And if a new os comes out all I have to do is unroot right?
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From what I've read here, root only works for the primary user. I could be wrong, but you might want to do some more research on that subject.
trickster2369 said:
From what I've read here, root only works for the primary user. I could be wrong, but you might want to do some more research on that subject.
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That would be fine actually b/c I don't want to provide my technologically weak parents with super user powers lol
But I just don't want to go through the trouble of unlocking and losing my data
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Sorry harrisfayyaz, but are you sure?
I rooted my N10 some days ago with this tool and tried it without Unlocking. It did not work for me - app told me I have to unlock first before rooting. Just would like to know if I was just dumb or not ^^
Use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003938. It works for 100%. I did it already twice (once on 4.2.1 and then again on 4.2.2). Nexus is rooted, but lock is still there. Run *.bat file without unlocking - it works.
I dont want to doubt what you are writing but the OP from the topic says:
Note: If you are using a retail device, you may need to unlock the bootloader first, using './fastboot-windows oem unlock' (or the appropriate version for your machine, included in this zip). Note that the OEM unlock sequence wipes your device, so consider doing an 'adb backup' beforehand if required!
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well i have already unlocked so... whatever
mieszk3 said:
Use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003938. It works for 100%. I did it already twice (once on 4.2.1 and then again on 4.2.2). Nexus is rooted, but lock is still there. Run *.bat file without unlocking - it works.
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The op said if you were using a retail device you might have to unlock the boot loader first, did you get yours through the play store?
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No, through Amazon from US. So in my opinion you always can try. In worse case if it requires unlock it doesn't root your Nexus.
I also read first post but in next part of thread users noticed that unlock is unnecessary. I tried it twice and works every time
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HansiHusten said:
I dont want to doubt what you are writing but the OP from the topic says:
well i have already unlocked so... whatever
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After root, lock your Nexus by NRT.
this method worked for me
however it was a pain to get drivers working, i had to get universal naked drivers
one question, will future otas work?
Should work as long as you don't change system files (OTA checks hash codes of them).
I also used universal naked drivers.
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Hello all,
Just a quick rooting question. Is there any reason to unlock the bootloader when rooting? According to some stickies, we can root without unlocking and I was able to root my friend's Captivate without unlocking anything. I am assuming we're unlocking the bootloader since it makes the rooting process easier as a hack isn't required? Thanks!
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It allows you to flash a custom recovery image to go ahead and flash a custom rom and radio
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info, but why didn't I need to unlock my friend's Captivate? We were able to get Clockworkmod Recovery on it without unlocking anything. Thanks!
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BlindWolf8 said:
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the info, but why didn't I need to unlock my friend's Captivate? We were able to get Clockworkmod Recovery on it without unlocking anything. Thanks!
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http://www.androidcentral.com/bootloaders-all-you-ever-wanted-know
The TL;DR of that article is that,
Every phone has a bootloader. The Nexus series (and now Sony Ericcson after filing out a form on their website) has a unlockable bootloader without the usage of any exploits. Phones such as the Galaxy S series (Vibrant, Captivate, Epic 4G, etc) -- mainly Samsung phones have weak bootloader protection.
HOWEVER, all of the other phones' bootloaders are unlocked due to a exploit. So yes, your friend did unlock the bootloader without actually knowing it.
The only phones that are unable to unlock the bootloader are Motorola phones because of the bootloader being signed.
But if you really want to know about bootloaders, read that article.
@dave: there is no such thing as a custom radio. The radio itself is not open sourced. But it allows you to flash a older version of the radio since results of radios vary between user. Some people may experience better connection with KB3 than KD1 and etc.
Thanks! It was as I thought.
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BlindWolf8 said:
I am assuming we're unlocking the bootloader since it makes the rooting process easier as a hack isn't required?
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Correct. Most other phones require an exploit to root, the Nexus S does not - if you unlock the bootloader. Conversely, you might still be able to root the Nexus using an exploit, even if you want to keep the bootloader locked.
fallenguru said:
Correct. Most other phones require an exploit to root, the Nexus S does not - if you unlock the bootloader. Conversely, you might still be able to root the Nexus using an exploit, even if you want to keep the bootloader locked.
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....? You just paraphrased what i said.
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I have a related question. I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
Maximilian Mary said:
I have a related question. I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
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It's kind of a PITA to flash an updated Clockworkmod Recovery. That's all I've found out.
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It's kind of a PITA to flash an updated Clockworkmod Recovery. That's all I've found out.
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^ but to be honest, not to many things get changed within the recovery. Sure the modified Clockwork recovery gets updated. But the original clockwork from ROM Manager doesn't.. it'll work, but I don't see a reason on keeping the bootloader locked. No security is ever compromised.
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....? You just paraphrased what i said.
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Funny, I actually paraphrased the OP. He was on the right track anyway, just needed some confirmation, not a whole paper Also there's a lot of stuff in there I don't really agree with all that much.
Maximilian Mary said:
I relocked my bootloader after rooting. What exactly can I not do with it locked?
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Flash (and probably boot) stuff via fastboot.
I just bought a Nexus 7 today and as soon as I setup the wifi it's prompting me to update to Android 4.11, it has 4.1 on it at the moment. I want to root the tablet but having use the Android Gingerbread in the past it is a PITA to wait for new root after we updated OTA on our smartphone. Should i avoid any OTA update for the N7?
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I just bought a Nexus 7 today and as soon as I setup the wifi it's prompting me to update to Android 4.11, it has 4.1 on it at the moment. I want to root the tablet but having use the Android Gingerbread in the past it is a PITA to wait for new root after we updated OTA on our smartphone. Should i avoid any OTA update for the N7?
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Update, unlock, root. In that order.
Chocu1a said:
Update, unlock, root...
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...deodex, flash tablet ui patch.
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Chocu1a said:
Update, unlock, root. In that order.
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Is there a new way to unlock 4.1.1? I'm new to rooting and stuff and I don't want to take any chances so I wanna be 100% sure.
MRsf27 said:
Is there a new way to unlock 4.1.1? I'm new to rooting and stuff and I don't want to take any chances so I wanna be 100% sure.
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It's a nexus. The answer to that is ALWAYS yes.
MRsf27 said:
Is there a new way to unlock 4.1.1? I'm new to rooting and stuff and I don't want to take any chances so I wanna be 100% sure.
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There's never a new way, it's always the same way. No update will "break" this.
fastboot oem unlock to unlock (this only have to be done once, it will remain unlocked unless you manually re-lock it)
fastboot flash recovery your.recovery.image (to flash a custom recovery)
Boot into recovery and apply the su zip of your choice if you merely want to root or if you want to flash a rom the rom of your choice (assuming these already reside on internal storage).
atticusmas said:
It's a nexus. The answer to that is ALWAYS yes.
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If you don't mind, I'd rather actually root my nexus s instead of my brand new bought nexus 7... I'm assuming it's almost the same guide to root both; just a different file; do you know of a guideline to root the nexus s on 4.1.1?
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If you don't mind, I'd rather actually root my nexus s instead of my brand new bought nexus 7... I'm assuming it's almost the same guide to root both; just a different file; do you know of a guideline to root the nexus s on 4.1.1?
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http://bit.ly/yf2x50
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http://bit.ly/yf2x50
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lol clever, that made me look stupid but I tried googling it before and i couldn't find a good one but I think I may have now
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lol clever, that made me look stupid but I tried googling it before and i couldn't find a good one but I think I may have now
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Glad to be of service.
[ToolKit] Nexus 7 one click root tool from the dev section is okay to use right? make it much simpler
ben805 said:
[ToolKit] Nexus 7 one click root tool from the dev section is okay to use right? make it much simpler
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It is okay to use. BUT...it is always best to learn how to use adb. You know, just in case something ever goes wrong.
It is not like Apple's device, you will always be able to root and all, you dont have to be scared
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[ToolKit] Nexus 7 one click root tool from the dev section is okay to use right? make it much simpler
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I really like Wug's toolkit, I know there's a few so I'm not positive if the one you're referring too is wugs or another one, but I reccomend using wugs, and following its step by step on setting up drivers properly.
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Guys just got my n4 few mins ago.. I don't actually want to unlock the bootloader yet, just root the stock that's it..
Actually my younger bro is gonna use it for sometime and he doesn't do all this, i just wanna root his phone so that he could use titanium later on for backing up and move to a different phone while i take over the n4.. Would unlock the bootloader then so i get a fully wiped phone..
Dev section is too big to search for this.. Can anyone just link me to the thread/tutorial for rooting the stock without unlocking bootloader ??
Thanks
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-Harsh- said:
Guys just got my n4 few mins ago.. I don't actually want to unlock the bootloader yet, just root the stock that's it..
Actually my younger bro is gonna use it for sometime and he doesn't do all this, i just wanna root his phone so that he could use titanium later on for backing up and move to a different phone while i take over the n4.. Would unlock the bootloader then so i get a fully wiped phone..
Dev section is too big to search for this.. Can anyone just link me to the thread/tutorial for rooting the stock without unlocking bootloader ??
Thanks
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. If you just got the phone a few minutes ago, what's the harm in unlocking the bootloader? If you unlock it now, it will save you the hassle of wiping all the data from the phone in the future.
Also, just because you have an unlocked bootloader doesn't mean that you have to change ROMs or anything. You can always lock it later if you need to, but having an unlocked bootloader gives you a lot more freedom when it comes to rooting.
Edit: Here's a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
hoponpop said:
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. If you just got the phone a few minutes ago, what's the harm in unlocking the bootloader? If you unlock it now, it will save you the hassle of wiping all the data from the phone in the future.
Also, just because you have an unlocked bootloader doesn't mean that you have to change ROMs or anything. You can always lock it later if you need to, but having an unlocked bootloader gives you a lot more freedom when it comes to rooting.
Edit: Here's a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
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Thanks for the reply.. As i informed my bro is gonna use it for initial months and he doesn't want to unlock.. He thinks it's some kinda sin
And yea i know all about unlocking and flashing roms, but on my current device, there is a toolkit for rooting with locked bootloaders.. So thought of asking..
Let's see if some one else turns up with a solution-..
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Thanks for the reply.. As i informed my bro is gonna use it for initial months and he doesn't want to unlock.. He thinks it's some kinda sin
And yea i know all about unlocking and flashing roms, but on my current device, there is a toolkit for rooting with locked bootloaders.. So thought of asking..
Let's see if some one else turns up with a solution-..
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Hi I see you want to root to use titanium backup. If you don't want to unlock/root you could use this backup service called carbon. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup&hl=en
There is no way to root without unlocking the bootloader atm.
Just unlock with wuggs toolkit, then its as simple as an app from play store to lock/unlock. Geez, the urban legends of the horrors and sins of rooting, don't believe everything on the Internet.
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unlock, root, then relock. simple. your bro wont know it was ever unlocked anyway
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Just unlock with wuggs toolkit, then its as simple as an app from play store to lock/unlock. Geez, the urban legends of the horrors and sins of rooting, don't believe everything on the Internet.
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that's just for nexus 7 right ?? or it would work with our's ??
Edit : DONE !! Thanks a TON !!
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that's just for nexus 7 right ?? or it would work with our's ??
Edit : DONE !! Thanks a TON !!
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wugs toolkit works with all nexus devices afaik.
**Edit** nm i didn't see you had it done, congratz
the urban legends of the horrors and sins of rooting, don't believe everything on the Internet.
I purchased my N4 straight from google do i still need to select unlock since it's already unlocked?
Virus1x said:
I purchased my N4 straight from google do i still need to select unlock since it's already unlocked?
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Yes after rooting you have to unlock it using boot unlocker app.
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Yes after rooting you have to unlock it using boot unlocker app.
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You mean before right?
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You mean before right?
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NO, I meant AFTER.
See actually I rooted my phone through framaroot and boot unlocker it took hardly 5mins.
Root through Framaroot and then I unlocked the boot as it was giving a message "Waiting for root access"
Don't know about Toolkits. Sorry.
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I purchased my N4 straight from google do i still need to select unlock since it's already unlocked?
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its two different types of unlocked. the nexus 4 is carrier unlocked, no matter where you buy it. but if you are unlocking the bootloader, thats a completely different thing that you are unlocking.
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its two different types of unlocked. the nexus 4 is carrier unlocked, no matter where you buy it. but if you are unlocking the bootloader, thats a completely different thing that you are unlocking.
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One more question does rooting with tool-kit and giving the device superuser cause issues with updates from google?
I really don't wanna run a custom rom.
also if I check the button USE CUSTOM RECOVERY it will use CWM right?
If u want OTA, don't use custom recovery. Only unlocking and rooting don't mess with OTA.
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If u want OTA, don't use custom recovery. Only unlocking and rooting don't mess with OTA.
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This is wrong having a custom recovery will not prevent you from receiving or installing the ota update. Its actually better to use a custom recovery because when you update it breaks root and twrp will ask you if you want it restored
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Is there any way to root my phone.
The system version is 183.46.15.
If your boot loader is locked, no.
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Nope. Sorry. Both bootloader and root are patched.
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If your boot loader is locked, no.
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Is there any guru working on the root? thinking about selling the phone if no hope
everseen said:
Is there any guru working on the root? thinking about selling the phone if no hope
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Not gonna come as far as I can see from now. Just go ahead and sell it. Plenty of alternatives on the market.
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There are some RAZR M that are unlocked on Swappa as well.
tianor said:
Is there any way to root my phone.
The system version is 183.46.15.
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Did u get unlocked, i am also stricken with it
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Did u get unlocked, i am also stricken with it
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No luck yet.
root and unlock 183.46.15
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No luck yet.
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Me too, me too!
Googleing this search daily " unlock 183.46.15 site:forum[.]xda-developers[.]com"
Checked ever corner of XDA, alas no solution on how to root and unlock 183.46.15
Devs @ XDA, come on champs gave us something, so can we also enjoy the privilege of CM12. Many are waiting for it fingers crossed
Mods/all, its only a humble request to Dev & not that if being annoyed.
Qualcomm patched the second layer (sbl2) of the second-stage bootloader, to take care of possible exploitation, effectively making it impenetrable. So for some individuals, we're pretty much out of luck. I wouldn't be sure of the possible exploits (the problem is, after that patch, it makes it even harder, although not impossible). Previous Kit Kat rooting exploitation relies on the permission requestion layer (futex) of the Linux kernel, as discovered by the former PS3 hacker, GeoHot, while it's patched by now. It's possible there is already a new rooting exploit by now, just don't hold the breath.
It's possible there is already a new rooting exploit by now, just don't hold the breath.
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Can you please be more concretely?
I may not be up to date, been out of town for a bit, and figuring out a way to unbrick a few RAZR Ms.
However, the reason I said not to hold the breath is because of Verizon demanding a hard fix for rooting so that way almost any root exploits simply fail on arrival. This phone company also WANTS locked BIOS so no one can install custom recovery and OS "just because it put customer services in jeopardy".
That's really bad, can't believe that there is no chance to root or bootunlock this device.
By the way, do you know any way to disable/delete/freeze modem fast dormancy service without rooting phone? Or to made some changes in build.prop file?
Simply force close Modem fastdormancy first then disable it in app manager, it will then quit. And, editing build.prop requires root (write protection).
Force close works but disable button is inactive.
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Ah, right.... I wonder why Verizon would disable some app manager features.
I'm outside of us, my carrier operates in gsm network and does not support fast dormancy, therefore phone reboots and can't wake up on power button when using h+. Thats why I need to edit build.prop and to dothis I need root access to file system.
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Makes sense. However, I may look for new exploit, but since Futex is removed, it is not so simple.
Dr. Mario, are you developer?
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Not officially, yet. But I know how the software works underneath the pretty UI, even down to the machine codes. I have been modding Android for 3 years.