Hi all,
I've recently been lucky enough to get an invite to Google Voice, and as such, I'd like to use it as my primary voicemail. I know how to change the Speed Dial setting so I can dial 1 and get to my GV messages, but I'd like to set up call forwarding or something similar so that anyone who calls my 'old' (original) phone number is sent to the GV number when I don't answer.
Please see this article to see what I'm talking about:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...ice-to-add-visual-voicemail-to-your-g1-dream/
I know that WM6 doesn't have an app for GV just yet, and I'm content to receive text messages for now. Is it possible to modify my voicemail functionality in this way? For reference, I'm using Sprint on a Vogue (with VetVito's ROM, but that shouldn't matter here).
Thanks!
Nevermind... on Sprint, this is done through setting up "Forward when busy" and "Forward when no answer" with customer service, and it carries a per-minute fee for each use. No way I'm shelling out 20 cents per minute for voicemail. Oh well...
If you are persistent enough and get to the right tech level, they will do it for you in the system. I basically had a lot of trouble doing the *7XXX thing (can't remember the code anymore) and finally got to a tech who told me that when your calls go to sprints voicemail, it is basically a call forward to a different number, just handled internally. So he changed the number in the internal system to my voicemail service (phone fusion, I'm on the android OS) and viola, call forwarding for busy and no answer calls with no charge!
It will probably take a few calls and some time, but it is possible. I would also suggest searching for and signing an online petition to sprint to discontinue this charge. Apparently they are the only US carriers who charge for this. with google voice coming, it's just not a good thing.
I'm on Verizon and I just have to dial *72+the number I want calls forwarded to and they just go to that number. The only issue is that it causes me to lose the free mobile 2 mobile calls because I get connected to my Google Voice account.
I called five times. Each time the answer was the same (in varying degrees of smarmyness and friendliness): We used to change the voicemail number for people, and we can still do it, but aren't allowed to.
No ifs, ands, or buts.
Every one of them tried to sell me on call forwarding at 20 cents per minute. Each time I explained that if I got only one message per day, at a minute or less, that'd be an extra six bucks on my bill. Personally, it'd be much higher.
So, much as I love my Vogue, the combination of their 'anti-Android' policy and intentional incompatibility with third-party voicemail systems means that I'll be looking for a new provider when my contract is up. Maybe I'll port my number to a shiny new myTouch 3G.
Okay guys I have just found something interesting and would like to see what your opinions or if my idea makes sense.
With the new google calling on Gmail.com, I went into my gvoice setting and I saw that I can now forward my calls to gmail.com instead of to my cell phone. I have only checked gmail as the number to forward my calls to, so when I make a call it actually goes through gmail and not my cell phone. thus, its free?
The problem with this is that I can now make free calls out with my gv number but will not be able to receive calls on my cell if someone calls my gv number since its not being forwarded to my cell number.
I hope I am explaining myself clear enough
Pretty sure you just told all incoming calls to go to GMail, and that's it. You didn't change any setting for outgoing calls, you are still using your plan minutes. Because you are still calling an actual phone number.
Just because you change a setting in the Voice options doesn't mean your phone suddenly knows to do voip without any voip program to do it. Your phone is still using normal voice calls.
I think you're right now that I think about it more....my bad...
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Wait, don't quit just yet. What provider are you with? If you have a plan that gives you phone numbers you can call without costing minutes, you can assign your GV number to that. You can then make and receive calls from your GV number without using minutes. I did this for about 6 months with Myfaves until I realized I just didn't make enough phone calls for it to be worth it.
Is anyone else having problems with googlevoice? All 3 T-mobile lines in my family has a googlevoice number and none of them are getting calls forwarded to the cellphone when we test call them. It was working just yesterday.
Following the google troubleshooting steps, I tried delete and re-add my G2 number, and now I can't even verify the phone because the verification call can't get through. I can call my cellphone just fine directly though.
Anyone else? Could people test it and try it out?
EDIT: outgoing call through GV still works, but it won't connect to another cellphone (tried tmo and sprint)
GV is working fine for me. When I call my GV number from my work phone, my mobile rings.
We've heard about the upcoming Google Voice + Sprint integration.
http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/sprint-integrates-google-voice.html
I use Google Voice for all of my calls. I don't give out my regular cell phone number, and have already 'trained' my audience to only use my GV#.
Also, many of you may be familiar with the app GV Callback, or now, "Google Voice Callback", coupled with Sprint to Home. This makes up for the fact that any call placed through the regular Google Voice App is billed as a 'Landline to mobile' (or landline to landline) call, incurring 'anytime minutes'. I discovered this the hard way, after a 2 month project, where I thought I was calling someone's cell phone, but it was really a landline. $900 later.. I began to research.
So basically, all of my outgoing calls (now) show as calls being placed to my "home" aka, my Google Voice number, and are therefore, covered by Sprint to Home ($5).
I haven't found any details on how this Google Voice + Sprint integration will affect this. I also emailed the developer of GV Callback, and he didn't know either. I'm curious if anyone knows, or has heard anything.
I use gv + sipdroid to handle all my inbound and outbound domestic calls. Avoids using up my minutes and keeps my cell number private.
Gv - outbound calls
Sipdroid - inbound calls
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ghostrid3r said:
Gv - outbound calls
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How does that avoid using minutes on its own?
I've used the official Google Voice on my phone for almost 2 years and I don't recall it ever counting as a landline. It's always been mobile-to-mobile for me.
BrianFX said:
How does that avoid using minutes on its own?
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gv uses it's own list of callback numbers that gets re-routed through their VOIP servers to connect to the recipient. Therefore, the receiving party see's your gv number. Although, one does have the option to place a call using gv or without gv before call is made, which comes in handy if you have m2m feature on your plan and want to directly dial using your cell number instead of your gv number.
arashed31 said:
I've used the official Google Voice on my phone for almost 2 years and I don't recall it ever counting as a landline. It's always been mobile-to-mobile for me.
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As mentioned in the comment above, if you use the gv app for your outgoing calls, I'm sure they count as calls to a landline. A way to check is, check an outgoing call on your bill- if you recognize the number, it most likely wasn't called through your gv app. If it's one of those 404 or 972 (or other less common) area codes, then you probably called through the gv app.
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I was wondering the exact same thing. I have to have people who call me a lot use my mobile number so I can use my unlimited sprint to sprint mobile minutes, but that means I can't have them use my GV number. I am hoping that Sprint + GV will make my GV number a sprint mobile number fixing this problem. I think this will be the case but would love to hear from someone who knows.
I'm also wondering what will become of the number I don't keep... does my current cell number go back into the Sprint pool if I choose my GV number? Does my GV number go back into the GV pool? I'd like to keep both if possible for a transition period, but I doubt that will happen.
From what I've read Sprint + GV this will also allow picture messaging to be sent to my GV# and for my phone to manage text messages. Which is great for most everyone in sprint as almost all of their plans have unlimited text. I'm also curious how this will work exactly...
I stop using gv cuz eats my minutes and learned the hard way and calls sometimes not clear it's good feature if U want to hide your # but useless or do pair with sip for free landline minutes.
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hoopsbwc34 said:
I was wondering the exact same thing. I have to have people who call me a lot use my mobile number so I can use my unlimited sprint to sprint mobile minutes, but that means I can't have them use my GV number.
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There's a solution for that if you only want to use your GV number-- in the 1st post. I run about 0-15 minutes per month with that setup
With GV Callback, you can easily set up filters to *not* call certain people from you GV number, etc.
which is why I hope it doesn't change.
Why use that Google Voice Callback? It's not even officially support by Google.
The Google Voice integration does the following:
1. Ports in your Sprint number for free
2. You use Google Voice with you Sprint number
3. All the benefits of Google Voice with your Sprint number for free. No ten dollar fee and no opting out of your contract.
Whosdaman said:
Why use that Google Voice Callback? It's not even officially support by Google.
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I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
Whosdaman said:
The Google Voice integration does the following:
1. Ports in your Sprint number for free
2. You use Google Voice with you Sprint number
3. All the benefits of Google Voice with your Sprint number for free. No ten dollar fee and no opting out of your contract.
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That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.
decalex said:
I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.
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I haven't run into any problems, do you have free incoming calls? Incoming don't count against my minutes, and I have unlimited nights+weekends.
decalex said:
I don't have unlimited minutes. Placing a call through Google Voice uses my "anytime" minutes, and as mentioned above, murdered my bill.
That's the thing, will this be optional? Because, (also mentioned above), I don't give out my sprint number any more. I've been primarily using my GV number for a couple of years now.
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Please pardon my ignorance but I just started researching how to make a call over Wi-Fi and I have tried to make a call from my computer using GV to a toll free number. It worked and I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get charged by google or Sprint so I just wonder why should it be any different if I do the same from my phone??? Over Wi-Fi, using sipdroid with GV.
I just can't get it what they would charge me for? The call isn't using Sprint voice network or Sprint Data network for that matter since I'm using my cable internet.
As far as I see it, it uses Google and pbxes bandwith.
And what is GV callback good for anyway? By my understanding that would be something Sprint could charge me for since I don't have free incoming calls.
And I can make call without GV callback just as well over Wi-Fi with my phone.
AND I totally don't understand how Sprint charged you $900 when you didn't even use your Sprint #
Please explain it to me as I was a little child.
Stank0 said:
Please pardon my ignorance but I just started researching how to make a call over Wi-Fi and I have tried to make a call from my computer using GV to a toll free number. It worked and I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get charged by google or Sprint so I just wonder why should it be any different if I do the same from my phone??? Over Wi-Fi, using sipdroid with GV.
I just can't get it what they would charge me for? The call isn't using Sprint voice network or Sprint Data network for that matter since I'm using my cable internet.
As far as I see it, it uses Google and pbxes bandwith.
And what is GV callback good for anyway? By my understanding that would be something Sprint could charge me for since I don't have free incoming calls.
And I can make call without GV callback just as well over Wi-Fi with my phone.
AND I totally don't understand how Sprint charged you $900 when you didn't even use your Sprint #
Please explain it to me as I was a little child.
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OK he was billed because he was calling a landline number that he thought was a cell which used his anytime minutes and mad him have overage.
With Google voice the downside is that you lose anymobile anytime because all calls are coming from Google which is not a cell number. The solution open provides is to subscribe to sprint to home which lets you have free calls to your home number. You make that home number you Google voice number. Then you use ghost callback to make your calls this makes Google call your cellphone from your Google voice number which is a free call so then every call you make becomes free. Combine this with setting up Google to show your Google voice number as the callerid when it forwards calls to your cell and then every call can be free.
The question open has is that all this depends on essentially having two numbers. A gv number and a sprint number. When you combine them by porting no one really knows what happens to a setup like this...
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stilesja said:
OK he was billed because he was calling a landline number that he thought was a cell which used his anytime minutes and mad him have overage.
With Google voice the downside is that you lose anymobile anytime because all calls are coming from Google which is not a cell number. The solution open provides is to subscribe to sprint to home which lets you have free calls to your home number. You make that home number you Google voice number. Then you use ghost callback to make your calls this makes Google call your cellphone from your Google voice number which is a free call so then every call you make becomes free. Combine this with setting up Google to show your Google voice number as the callerid when it forwards calls to your cell and then every call can be free.
The question open has is that all this depends on essentially having two numbers. A gv number and a sprint number. When you combine them by porting no one really knows what happens to a setup like this...
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Yes, that's what you would have to do to receive INCOMING calls.
Outgoing calls shouldn't be charged at all since I initiate the call over Wi-Fi and it's being routed outside of Sprint network completely.
(Phone->router>modem>my Internet provider> sipdroid>GV>target phone)
And unless Sprint owns at least one of those "nods", I don't think they have any grounds (or even way) for charging (or using my minutes) for anything. Sprint shouldn't even KNOW that I made such a call.
Henceforth. I understand that it's probably true for Sprint to use my anytime minutes for INCOMING calls (without Sprint to Home), OUTGOING are a different story no matter whether I call cell or landline. All expenses are on Google since GV makes that final part of call. And for the time being GV calls (to US numbers) are free. At least till the end of this year.
I'm still missing point of using the GV callback though. As far as I understand it, GV callback will turn your FREE outgoing call into CHARGEABLE incoming call.
EDIT: BUT... If the incoming call come through sipdroid... it shouldnt use my anytime minutes either since it doesn't use Sprint network. Voice nor data.
Tagged for future research OR as seen mentioned elsewhere "for cute kittens".
Haha, ya, I'll do the research once they take away my sprint to home dealy... Still going strong though.
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My friend just got a N4 and ported his old Sprint # into GV. If I call him from my cell using GV, he gets the call. If I call him from my home phone, it just rings on my end an he never hears it. If he calls his cell from his home phone or his daughters cell, it says the # has been disconnected. Ever hear of anything like that? Any advice? I set up mine and my wife's N4's the same way with zero problems. He has the GV app on his phone presumably configured correctly as well as his GV account with his N4 on ST listed as the forwarding phone.