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Best Media Player for WM5/PocketPC?

Is the best media player CorePlayer for the PocketPC? I want to ask everyone before going out and spending the whopping $20.
I just want one solution, the best solution, so I don't have to revisit this again and have something that will play both my audio and video file types.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.

ltxda said:
Is the best media player CorePlayer for the PocketPC? I want to ask everyone before going out and spending the whopping $20.
I just want one solution, the best solution, so I don't have to revisit this again and have something that will play both my audio and video file types.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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The best may be the freeware version of CorePlayer, TCPMP

Would anyone have the link to TCPMP? I tried Google'ing but kept running into dead links.
Never mind, found it.

What about here?
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1080
EDIT: Damn, it didn't work either...

Try this:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab

cayotte said:
Try this:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
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Thanks. I eventually found it but didn't like it so sprung for the CorePlayer. All is well now.
Thanks all for your help!

ltxda said:
Thanks. I eventually found it but didn't like it so sprung for the CorePlayer. All is well now.
Thanks all for your help!
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Why not install both TCPMP and Coreplayer? That way you also get AC3 support through TCPMP if ever you need it.

I get an error with TCPMP with AC-3 audio - am I missing a setting somewhere to enable it?
Error: Player: Audio codec (AC-3) not supported by the player!
ver 0.72RC1

rpgsx3r said:
I get an error with TCPMP with AC-3 audio - am I missing a setting somewhere to enable it?
Error: Player: Audio codec (AC-3) not supported by the player!
ver 0.72RC1
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You need the AC3 codec (I don't know where from though, try the forums at corecodec). However, if you install Coreplayer (the retail version of TCMP) then this codec is installed automatically.
I don't know if coreplayer has to be activated in order for the codec to work though.

No, it's not. Maybe you are thinking of AAC but AC3 is definitely not in Coreplayer. There was a huge discussion on their forum along the lines that you don't need AC3 because there is no PDA with 5 speakers and it would increase the price for coreplayer unnecessary because of the license fees they would have to pay to Dolby. Anyway, they might release it as an additional plugin later. The current plugin for TCPMP is a grey area legally speaking. Get it as long as you can still download it somewhere ...

Is there another player that can cope with pausing automatically during an incoming phone call/voice command.
I tried tcpmp an it kept playing across calls, which is a bit annoying when you've got the phone set on autoanswer..
Built in media player does work like this, but that's the only thing I can think to say that's positive about it..

fards said:
Is there another player that can cope with pausing automatically during an incoming phone call/voice command.
I tried tcpmp an it kept playing across calls, which is a bit annoying when you've got the phone set on autoanswer..
Built in media player does work like this, but that's the only thing I can think to say that's positive about it..
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Pocket music www.pocketmind.com

chaiya said:
Pocket music www.pocketmind.com
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Yep I found a link to it after I'd posted, the demo seems to be working pretty well so far. Will see how I get on and buy it if it works properly.

Pocket Player
Well even though it seems quite a bit flakey, Pocket Player. It works with Bluetooth headsets, well at least my Sony Ericson, if you want quality FLAC file playback this seems fine and a very good way to fill a 8GB microdrive ;-)
Playback with a proper stereo headset is good as long as the charger is not attached - which is noisy. As this pda can access usb drives, it could form the basis of a funky hi-fi systems if you use FLAC files and spend some money on a better power supply, oh and get hacking the device to find the direct digital outlet to pump to an external dac. Actually I've not tried connecting it via it's usb output - has anybody else? Not use this would work though.
Russ

Another Video question

Is there anyway to take a MKV or HQ 720p files with 5.1 surround sound or 3F2R/LFE to stereo other than Handbreak Handbreak is great and love it just takes a while and some times i feel as if the video quality goes down.
Thanks!

I use ripbot264 and make a copy of all my Bluray Rips to 720p w/5.1 audio for use on my phone. It gives you LOTS of options for improving video quality etc.

talltexan said:
Is there anyway to take a MKV or HQ 720p files with 5.1 surround sound or 3F2R/LFE to stereo other than Handbreak Handbreak is great and love it just takes a while and some times i feel as if the video quality goes down.
Thanks!
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Video quality is going to go down no matter what you use b/c of the huge drop in bitrate as well as drop in resolution. As far as taking too long, I think that depends on your system.

krichek said:
I use ripbot264 and make a copy of all my Bluray Rips to 720p w/5.1 audio for use on my phone. It gives you LOTS of options for improving video quality etc.
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Why not make them 800x480 (or somewhere around those numbers to maintain aspect ratio) since phone can't do 1280x720 and you're pretty much just wasting storage space doing 720p?

krichek said:
I use ripbot264 and make a copy of all my Bluray Rips to 720p w/5.1 audio for use on my phone. It gives you LOTS of options for improving video quality etc.
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but it wont play 5.1, haven't tried it with 5.1 headphones yet however it wont play out the external speaker or in headphones unless its stereo. Or am i missing an option on my Vibrant somewhere?

I would like to know why you can't pause a movie and return to the same spot. It starts from the beginning every time. Is there a trick or just the way it is?

@krichek it wont play 5.1 out of the external speakers correct?

talltexan said:
@krichek it wont play 5.1 out of the external speakers correct?
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Are you asking if the file will play at all? Or if it sounds like it's in 5.1 through the external speaker?
It will play files with 5.1 but I don't think they sound any different if you are using the external speaker. I think they sound slightly better than stereo using the headphones tho.
As to why I encode in 720p with 5.1, I plan on purchasing the USB-HDMI cable when it is released and want to be able to play them on a monitor/HDTV without having to have 2 different versions on the phone.

krichek said:
Are you asking if the file will play at all? Or if it sounds like it's in 5.1 through the external speaker?
It will play files with 5.1 but I don't think they sound any different if you are using the external speaker. I think they sound slightly better than stereo using the headphones tho.
As to why I encode in 720p with 5.1, I plan on purchasing the USB-HDMI cable when it is released and want to be able to play them on a monitor/HDTV without having to have 2 different versions on the phone.
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Ok first follow this tutorial to get your audio out of the video file.
Next use Headac3he to downconvert the file from 5.1 to 2.0. When the program is loaded you will see an option button on the main window. Click it and then it will pop up a second window. At the bottom you will see the down conversion settings. Set it to 2.0 and let it convert.
Then mp3 the wave file and use virtualdub to plop the audio file back into the video file. I'm sure you can find tutorials for all that. If you need to learn how to use any of the programs above tutorials can be easily found on your favorite search engine. Once you learn what your doing here this will take less 7min per file to accomplish.

Dang..... azid.dll cant download it from the official site looks like the site no longer exists. this is for Headac3he
Edit: Attempting foobar2000 as recommended by an IRC friend.

talltexan said:
Dang..... azid.dll cant download it from the official site looks like the site no longer exists. this is for Headac3he
Edit: Attempting foobar2000 as recommended by an IRC friend.
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??? I was able to download it from here . It's right under the download link for headac3he
Also I don't see how foobar200 could do any conversion since it's a media player.

Video converter for galaxy tab HELP

Anyone know of a good video converter? although its not really the video thats the problem at the moment, its the fact thats its multi channel, how can i make it stereo?
Thanks

If you use the inbuilt converter in Kies you can't go wrong.

yea but that inbuilt converter starts to change the video resolution and bitrate, i dont want it to do tht, all i want to change is the audio from multi channel to stereo

Handbrake is a good piece of software. It's free too.
Use the iPhone/iPod touch preset, then boost the resolution to max. Works for me.

Can you point me to a write up or some more info on this? I thought I could watch avi's on it and tried to load some last night but couldn't get it working.

Have you tried mkvideoplayer?

strange AC3 multi channel audio is working fine for me. Its only DTS that isnt working

dts will not work... in all other cases there are players that will help

What player are you using to get the multi channel audio to work?. handbrake doesnt let me just leave the video though, see i just want to change the audio to stereo and not touch the video

italia0101 said:
What player are you using to get the multi channel audio to work?. handbrake doesnt let me just leave the video though, see i just want to change the audio to stereo and not touch the video
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ffmpeg will probably do that. Have fun!

I use the pre-installed video player and it plays .avi and .flv and .m4v. Do I have the only device that plays all the formats?

No, mine does it also. We are the lucky ones ;-)
Sent from my Galaxy Tab using kung fu.

To MizGarfield and nobnut, What TAb version are you using GSM or CDMA and what ROM and KErnel? Wanna make sure that this issue (multi Channel audio unsupported) is not ROM or VERSION related!

Play any video format on Fire TV

This is probably not anything new, but I didn't see it on Google so here we go:
Play any video file on Amazon Fire TV:
1) Get StickMount + install: http://www.firetvnews.com/how-to-play-media-files-from-external-usb-storage-on-amazon-fire-tv/
-- Yes you will need root: link in link above
2) Get MX Player: http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
3) Sideload VLC just like you did with stickmount
Profit
edit:
I think this VLC works better. Still a little buggy. BUT 100% better than nothing
2) Get VLC: http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=the.joevlc
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Replaced this VLC with MX it squashes bugs and wiorks 100% on FireTV, and H/w acceleration works just fine
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad

What about music files?
I want to play some extremely high quality FLAC files (96khz 32bit and higher) that don't initially work on most devices.
I normally had to re-convert my 96khz 32bit FLAC files to a measly 44khz 24bit so they can play on my Trio T4300.
Can someone reccommend a way to play audiophile quality flac files on Fire TV?
Maybe some custom FLAC codec to install for obtaining higher quality FLAC support.

retroben said:
What about music files?
I want to play some extremely high quality FLAC files (96khz 32bit and higher) that don't initially work on most devices.
I normally had to re-convert my 96khz 32bit FLAC files to a measly 44khz 24bit so they can play on my Trio T4300.
Can someone reccommend a way to play audiophile quality flac files on Fire TV?
Maybe some custom FLAC codec to install for obtaining higher quality FLAC support.
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For both broad video file format support and FLAC support, I recommend XBMC. You will find that a keyboard is helpful to connect when first setting it up if you're looking to define file paths on your home network. I play my media off of a NAS and XBMC is quite nice.
Adding it to the homescreen can be done by installing Lama, and then using a "sacrificial app" to launch xbmc as a condition of, essentially - you set a Lama trigger that says "when app X is running, run XBMC."
All of that can be done with sideloading - no root required, and although I used root to replace the Fire launcher with XBMC as a launcher, I'm told you can do the launcher swap with Lama as well.

Is there any less diffifcult app to install alongside a codec with full FLAC support.
I don't really care all that much about xbmc because it is designed like a swiss army knife for media when all I need right now is a standalone FLAC player with full 96khz+ and 32bit support.

roustabout said:
For both broad video file format support and FLAC support, I recommend XBMC. You will find that a keyboard is helpful to connect when first setting it up if you're looking to define file paths on your home network. I play my media off of a NAS and XBMC is quite nice.
Adding it to the homescreen can be done by installing Lama, and then using a "sacrificial app" to launch xbmc as a condition of, essentially - you set a Lama trigger that says "when app X is running, run XBMC."
All of that can be done with sideloading - no root required, and although I used root to replace the Fire launcher with XBMC as a launcher, I'm told you can do the launcher swap with Lama as well.
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I have had no luck with XBMC seeing thins on SUB sticks. It see the stick and folder, but will not find videos.
it was one of the first apps I installed...

DHO said:
I have had no luck with XBMC seeing thins on SUB sticks. It see the stick and folder, but will not find videos.
it was one of the first apps I installed...
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Interesting. I just installed stickmount to test (I mostly have my keyboard in the USB slot) and was able to play a FLAC file, an AVI, a WMV and an MP4 file from the USB stick I put in.
I'm using the 13.1 that was modified to behave as a launcher, but as far as I know it's otherwise a pretty standard 13.1 build.
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retroben said:
Is there any less diffifcult app to install alongside a codec with full FLAC support.
I don't really care all that much about xbmc because it is designed like a swiss army knife for media when all I need right now is a standalone FLAC player with full 96khz+ and 32bit support.
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Try sideloading MixZing? I think it does FLAC. I really like it on my phone and it knows about folders, which is helpful.

I found a better one called JetAudio Basic.
It even has playback speed control with or without pitch shift.
I downloaded a 192khz 24bit FLAC test file,and it plays perfectly!
Edit:I found an even better one called DeadBeef.
I hope it isn't downsampling the 192khz FLAC file when playing it.
If so,can somebody reccommend a guaranteed 192khz FLAC player app?

I just updated OP, this app works MUCH better
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
In settings, you can check to make it function as an audio player too
IF amazon would just include this app,... and USB mount I would have no reason to root this box. Beyond ridiculous they cripple obvious features that are build into android (what their box is based on.)

DHO said:
This is probably not anything new, but I didn't see it on Google so here we go:
I think this VLC works better. Still a little buggy. BUT 100% better than nothing
2) Get VLC: http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=the.joevlc
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The KFTV does not respond to any remote commands when playing a video in VLC. Not able to play/pause, rew/ff, etc. Any idea how to get it working proper?

mjbxx said:
The KFTV does not respond to any remote commands when playing a video in VLC. Not able to play/pause, rew/ff, etc. Any idea how to get it working proper?
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hey use bsplayer, it works great. the fire tv remote works and it have dts. here's a link http://www12.zippyshare.com/v/69008312/file.html if you have a problem sending it through adb just rename it just bsplayer.

Ah yes.. I sideloaded this player to the wimpy firetv stick .. It works perfectly.. VLC seemed to want more power than the stick can provide. The combination of upnplay and bsplayer has worked out wonderfully..

retroben said:
I found a better one called JetAudio Basic.
It even has playback speed control with or without pitch shift.
I downloaded a 192khz 24bit FLAC test file,and it plays perfectly!
Edit:I found an even better one called DeadBeef.
I hope it isn't downsampling the 192khz FLAC file when playing it.
If so,can somebody reccommend a guaranteed 192khz FLAC player app?
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* plays files with up to 192KHz sampling rate, including 24 bit and multichannel files

For anyone reading this thread in 2016, don't waste your life on the advice here: just get Kodi/SPMC or MrMC.

Yeah, I use Kodi exclusively on my Fire TV Stick. No need for root or anything.
But ...
After I upgraded to Jarvis (16), I noticed it hung on some videos, including ones it played fine before. So I went back to the older Helix version.
If anyone knows what's going on, I'd appreciate it. Is Isengard as good/better/worse than the other versions?
The situation of Kodi on Android is not too great and getting worse.

But apps like KODI are bulky swiss-army knives for media and many users reported issues with some even causing device instability when the app is not in use,what if someone wants a lightweight-but-powerful player for only music with full support for 192Khz?

Dolby Digital on Netflix

I noticed that Netflix only shows Stereo audio options on movies that offer 5.1 DD+. Does this mean that the Nexus Player cannot passthrough DD+ because my receiver supports it. I see no audio options in the player's settings either.

According to Netflix, 5.1 is supported on the Nexus Player (https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23004).
So, I'm not sure why it's not working, either. Still researching.

Android TV doesn't have any type of audio passthrough. Google is working on it though. But it can decode 5.1 to multichannel PCM... it's just netflix hasn't updated their app to take advantage of anything new in Android TV - doesn't use the voice search api, the api that adds suggestions to your home page, ect, ect.

well, according to netflix, the app on the nexus player works too.. which it obviously doesn't for half the users... so I'm not exactly inclined to trust them

Luxferro said:
Android TV doesn't have any type of audio passthrough. Google is working on it though. But it can decode 5.1 to multichannel PCM... it's just netflix hasn't updated their app to take advantage of anything new in Android TV - doesn't use the voice search api, the api that adds suggestions to your home page, ect, ect.
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Passthrough does work. I have kodi(xbmc) installed and it is passing through dd dd+ dts. My receiver changes to the corresponding mode and the audio is as it should. So this means the android os can pass through. The problem it's not Google. It's the app manufacturers.

pchtc said:
Passthrough does work. I have kodi(xbmc) installed and it is passing through dd dd+ dts. My receiver changes to the corresponding mode and the audio is as it should. So this means the android os can pass through. The problem it's not Google. It's the app manufacturers.
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Wrong.
There is no passthrough in the default media player in Android TV (exoplayer)... yet (they are supposedly working on adding AC3 passthrough). XBMC (kodi) doesn't use androids stock media player for playback, it uses it's own that is built into the app... which is why passthrough works in that case.

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Wrong.
There is no passthrough in the default media player in Android TV (exoplayer)... yet (they are supposedly working on adding AC3 passthrough). XBMC (kodi) doesn't use androids stock media player for playback, it uses it's own that is built into the app... which is why passthrough works in that case.
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Not Wrong
Im well aware of that. My comment was specifically to point out that the issue is not hardware and not the android OS. Which you have just agreed with by starting that the issue is the native player not outputting in passthrough.

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Im well aware of that. My comment was specifically to point out that the issue is not hardware and not the android OS. Which you have just agreed with by starting that the issue is the native player not outputting in passthrough.
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It is almost never a problem at the hardware level for android devices. It's always at the OS level, and starts with the built in media player most apps use. This applies to the ADT-1, Nexus Player, even the Fire TV. Android has never had passthrough built in at the OS level, unless it was added by a device manufacture w/ their customized version of Android. Take for example Sony GTV devices, the Vizio Co-Star. Those only had it because they had customize builds of Android. The Nexus Player runs stock Android, which lacks passthrough at this time.
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melophat said:
well, according to netflix, the app on the nexus player works too.. which it obviously doesn't for half the users... so I'm not exactly inclined to trust them
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If you're having problems launching Netflix on Android TV, clear the app data. The app is very buggy on Android TV. Mine craps out constantly with login errors. Only workaround is to clear data and retype all your login info.

How the **** can they release a MEDIA Player without passthrough? I don't care if it can be accomplished with 3d party app like Kodi. This should be done with native player no questions asked. This is in my opinion a big fail.
Also the lack of hardware support for anything else than h264 is quite disappointing. ?

Johan1976 said:
How the **** can they release a MEDIA Player without passthrough? I don't care if it can be accomplished with 3d party app like Kodi. This should be done with native player no questions asked. This is in my opinion a big fail.
Also the lack of hardware support for anything else than h264 is quite disappointing. ?
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I agree, lack of native surround passthrough is really an embarrassment on Google's part. It really shows the lack of practical testing this device went through (if any at all). How did someone not say "wait a minute...you think we should enable surround sound passthrough? It is 2014 after all".

Johan1976 said:
How the **** can they release a MEDIA Player without passthrough? I don't care if it can be accomplished with 3d party app like Kodi. This should be done with native player no questions asked. This is in my opinion a big fail.
Also the lack of hardware support for anything else than h264 is quite disappointing. ��
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Google fails at seeing the big picture. People who invest in surround systems don't want audio decoded on the device to PCM, they want their expensive receivers to do the decoding. They should also be including mpeg2 hw decoding in all android tv devices if they intended these devices to do anything with live TV in the united states.
I'm hoping they turn things around, but remain skeptical considering the failures so far. Sony's 2015 line of smart tv's are supposed to be all Android TV... I hope they get it right...
Those TV's better have passthrough, better be able to pass 5.1 over ARC back to a receiver, and better have mpeg2 hw decoding. Do it right, or don't do it at all. People don't want half baked crap in their home theater systems.

Well...putting the Android media player aside and focusing back on Netflix. I'm trying to get in touch with them regarding the 5.1 audio. I sent their developer e-mail a message asking about it. Any other ideas? I sent the e-mail to [email protected], but maybe there's a different place. The only other options I could find would be to call or chat with them.
Hello,
I'm using the Netflix Android App on a Nexus Player running the most recent Android version and firmware (Android 5.0, Nexus Player firmware LRX21V). I noticed that when I watch movies that normally have a 5.1 surround audio option on other devices (such as the Windows 8 app), the same movies DO NOT have that option on the Nexus Player.
According to the weblink below from Netflix's help center, the Nexus Player suggests that there should be an option for 5.1 surround sound ("Learn how to enable subtitles, closed captions, and alternate audio (including 5.1 surround sound..."). https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23004
Is there any chance that this feature isn't working properly on the Nexus Player? Or is it supposed to be coming in the near future? It would be nice if we could have that option.
Thanks for the help!
Best regards,
David
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YouTube is stereo only as well

What is somewhat infuriating is that this netflix app looks to be the exact same as the firetv stick's netflix and the firetv streams DD+

Well this is a bummer...
Sounds like they just haven't added it yet. No word (at least from the chat people on an update). Wish there was something we could do to push them along.
Netflix Marian
It's just what you were thinking too... The app on the Nexus player does not support the 5.1 at the moment.
You
Understood. Any word if there might be an update in the future?
Netflix Marian
I'm checking but I am not seeing anything here but no worries, once there is an update available it will be sent through to Google so that they can push it to the device... We are always making improvements to our service and features offered to our customers so I will keep my fingers crossed for you.
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Not only that but I have alot of Google Play movies, and quite a few are in stereo...including fellowship of the Ring. Its not offered in DD+ or the like.. bizzare. But at least the Big movie with Tom Hanks is....grrr

volwrath said:
Not only that but I have alot of Google Play movies, and quite a few are in stereo...including fellowship of the Ring. Its not offered in DD+ or the like.. bizzare. But at least the Big movie with Tom Hanks is....grrr
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It amazes me the amount of movies on Google Play that are offered in Stereo only. I spent a lot of time trying to figure out why I was not getting 5.1 with no success (assuming it was a hardware/setup issue). I decided to check the store and noticed 90% of the movies are only available in 2.0 stereo. This is truly disappointing. I can't remember the last movie I got from iTunes that was stereo only. I cannot understand why Google offers mostly in stereo...makes no sense to me.

To clarify, the hardware supports passthrough, it's just the apps that are not implementing it for whatever reason.
We'll just have to wait until the devs get off their asses and add support. Sigh.
Have to say, for something that people were so excited about, Google has really sh*t the bed with this one. Little to no support and no real info from Google support either. Piss poor. I find myself using my FireTV stick more often than the Nexus Player, as much as I'd much prefer to use the latter.

I do actually get Dolby Digital 5.1 out of Netflix on chromecast. Casting to nexus player is definitely different, though. It actually launches the Netflix app when you cast instead of regular casting. Not sure if this is this is android TV issue or if Netflix is accessing with how casting works.

Even after updating to android 5.1 still cannot get multichannel surround. Dont get it ! It would be expected to get at least similar multichannel audio compared to chromecast. When using hbo go or netflix through the player's google cast functionality I can only get stereo. What are we missing here.