Lithium-polymer batteries charging - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys ...
As you know this beloved phone has Li-polymer battery and I remember that once I had read that this kind of batteries have this possibility that for example even if they are not fully discharged, we can connect them to charger and it does not damage them and so on.
Is this true? Do you know about this?
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It is even better for these batteries to not fully discharge.
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ashkan_mc said:
Hey guys ...
As you know this beloved phone has Li-polymer battery and I remember that once I had read that this kind of batteries have this possibility that for example even if they are not fully discharged, we can connect them to charger and it does not damage them and so on.
Is this true? Do you know about this?
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http://www.dailymobile.net/2012/03/...-the-life-of-your-smartphonetablet-batteries/
Read this article, basically says everything you need to know

Just charge and use your phone normally, there are a lot of myths about batteries. One is the fact that if you discharge the battery to zero you can damage it. That's true at an electrical level, but your phone will report "zero" and turn off at a safe level, well before any potentially-damaging level.
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Defective S3 died 2 days after i bought it!!

Hey Guys,
I have been following this thread since a while and finally took the plunge with the S3.
it was a blue s3 and i loved it.
All stock, not rooted nothing..
So i was downloading my games and apps the first day all went well
the second night, i bought NOVA 3, and put it for charge while downloading the 1.7 gb data for the game over wifi.
i woke up in the morning and the phone is dead, it shows a yellow connect it to kies message.
I dont know what happened?
took it to the service center, they tried re-installing the firmware, but no avail. finally told me they have to replace the motherboard it was fried.
I fought with them and managed to get a replacement unit which im gonna get on monday.
The ordeal aside, i want to know, is it possible this happened because i downloaded too many games(6 actually)
each with about 400 mb data.
can a phone get bricked if i download nova 3's data of 1.6 gb
cause i am going to get all my games again.
so help with the solution!!
probably a 1 off defective unit.
You left it charging overnight right, have you considered a power surge may have fried it?
It's better to wake up early in the morning and put it on charge than to leave it overnight.
Sorry about your loss though.
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kofiaa said:
You left it charging overnight right, have you considered a power surge may have fried it?
It's better to wake up early in the morning and put it on charge than to leave it overnight.
Sorry about your loss though.
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true,
but i have a surge protector which i plug my charger into.
any ways thanks
Using or downloading stuff while charging gradually heats up ur phone....possibly...yeah motherboard fried..and u left it charging overnight
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kofiaa said:
You left it charging overnight right, have you considered a power surge may have fried it?
It's better to wake up early in the morning and put it on charge than to leave it overnight.
Sorry about your loss though.
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Not true. Modern mobile batteries like s3' have overcharge guard
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To answer your question, you just had a defective unit that's all.
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I think heating was the problem... I remember few guys with sgs2 with same problem reporting..
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I don't think the game's could do anything wrong to you while downloading.
Btw while playing games on SIII take care as the Phone's temperature reaches the sky and literally i have to close down the game because the phone becomes too hot.
CRBoy47 said:
Not true. Modern mobile batteries like s3' have overcharge guard
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power surge and over charge are totally different things. over charge protection would not prevent a power surge.
Most probably just a defective unit.
I left my HTC Sensation charging overnight once, and somehow there was an app running continuously and when I woke up the phone was scalding hot to touch. I freaked out and pulled the battery and let the whole thing cool before I booted it up again. Might not be relevant but just goes to show that our phones can take more heat than we think.
kofiaa said:
You left it charging overnight right, have you considered a power surge may have fried it?
It's better to wake up early in the morning and put it on charge than to leave it overnight.
Sorry about your loss though.
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Well I have been charging my handsets overnight for at least 6 years now and I have never had a fried nokia, hero, desire, sgs2 or sgs3 ever.
Charging overnight is safe
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yeah , modern batterys not like old batterys

how to properly calibrate my battery??

hi guys I just want to know what's the best way to calibrate my battery??
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port76 said:
hi guys I just want to know what's the best way to calibrate my battery??
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Use it...... Charge it often... try not to discharge the battery to zero. Calibration is not needed... This is a newer phone with new battery technology.
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thanks I thought to calibrate it you had to discharge it fully then recharge
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Yeah just use it like normal. Don't worry about the battery bar too much.
Calibration is a myth
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It is a good idea to charge for solid 8 hours and discharge to around 10% the first 2-3 cycles of the battery to condition it. But after that, use as you please, no memory effect or calibration or the like.
Only thing I would add, do not drain completely flat (0%) as it can negatively effect battery capacity, tho modern batteries usually have guards to prevent full discharge, for that reason
Calibration (full discharge) was for Ni-MH battery technology, and is actually a bad thing to do with Li-Ion/Li-Pol batteries
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RellikZephyr said:
It is a good idea to charge for solid 8 hours and discharge to around 10% the first 2-3 cycles of the battery to condition it. But after that, use as you please, no memory effect or calibration or the like.
Only thing I would add, do not drain completely flat (0%) as it can negatively effect battery capacity, tho modern batteries usually have guards to prevent full discharge, for that reason
Calibration (full discharge) was for Ni-MH battery technology, and is actually a bad thing to do with Li-Ion/Li-Pol batteries
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There is no memory effect any more. Just avoid killing the battery fully or leaving it charged for extended sessions, because the heat hurts the battery.
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The thing about discharging to zero damaging the battery is another myth. The phone will report the battery at zero well before it reaches the "real zero". So there's an inbuilt safety margin that means you don't have to worry.
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[Q] prepare battery

Hi ! So, i will receive my N4 in few days, and i would like to know what i should do to improve my battery life at first. Is there any way to charge and discharge the battery ? I read something like that on the forum but it seems very long.. Thanks for your answer
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AutruiP said:
Hi ! So, i will receive my N4 in few days, and i would like to know what i should do to improve my battery life at first. Is there any way to charge and discharge the battery ? I read something like that on the forum but it seems very long.. Thanks for your answer
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Calibrate the battery by running it down to 0% and charge it fully.
You can also root the phone and flash a custom kernel that offers great battery life.
Other things you can do...
Turn off sync, turn off GPS, turn off Google now, and lower brightness level to a minimum.
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Yeah i was more talking about calibration. Is Just one discharge cycle enough ?
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There's no such thing as battery calibration. Just use your phone normally, charging it when you want to.
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AutruiP said:
Yeah i was more talking about calibration. Is Just one discharge cycle enough ?
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Don't calibrate now.. your phone will already have the best calibrated battery settings.
Calibrate when you flash a custom Rom and that too,if you face battery problems. Otherwise no need. You'll do more damage otherwise. No need to calibrate if you flash a kernel over stock either.
cm9 htc a310e k2.6
You dont calibrate li ion battery.
http://batteryuniversity.com
And you should never purposely run it down to 0%.
steviewevie said:
There's no such thing as battery calibration. Just use your phone normally, charging it when you want to.
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It is a bit of a misnomer as the phone is calibrating the battery scale to match the discharge of the battery. It isn't that there is no such thing, it just isn't what people think.
Get the latest Franco kernel on it. That is all.
MrBelter said:
It is a bit of a misnomer as the phone is calibrating the battery scale to match the discharge of the battery. It isn't that there is no such thing, it just isn't what people think.
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This. So much this.

Weird battery charging graph

One of the strangest charging profile I've seen.
That is weird. Miscalibrated battery, maybe? Try a full discharge, then recharge.
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klvnhng said:
That is weird. Miscalibrated battery, maybe? Try a full discharge, then recharge.
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I'd never recommend a full discharge for an li-ion battery
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Xeno87 said:
I'd never recommend a full discharge for an li-ion battery
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It's not recommended to do often, but discharging has been known to solve issues with improper calibration.
Besides, you can't tell me you've never used your shiny Nexus 4 to 0% before ;P
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Did you restart your phone while it was charging? I've seen strange dips and spikes in the battery graph on my Nexus S when rebooting while its charging. I haven't seen anything like your graph on my N4 yet but I don't check the graph much plus I've only had the phone about a week and a half.

Note 3 Battery Problem

I have a galaxy note 3 N9005 and the battery life is not what it should be. I've owned this phone for about 5 days. I always have power saving mode on with all the smart and air features disabled. I charged my device to 100%. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks
Wow, that's some horrible battery life. I'm not seeing anything like that on my device though.
Did you condition the battery probably?
And of over 3 hour screen on time.
My advice: try to recondition your battery
As in, let it die, recharge to full from wall outlet. Do that about 3 to 5 times. Don't force it to die just use it normally so the battery will discharge power properly this will causes it to hold more charge.
If you do that and the battery still doesn't hold charge then your battery is good as dead.
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lennie said:
Wow, that's some horrible battery life. I'm not seeing anything like that on my device though.
Did you condition the battery probably?
And of over 3 hour screen on time.
My advice: try to recondition your battery
As in, let it die, recharge to full from wall outlet. Do that about 3 to 5 times. Don't force it to die just use it normally so the battery will discharge power properly this will causes it to hold more charge.
If you do that and the battery still doesn't hold charge then your battery is good as dead.
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Wow you get amazing battery life! Thanks for your help
Is your screen brightness set to 100%? And was what you're doing over excessively white? Because that might account for some of it.
Did you unplug it last at 100% battery, or somewhere halfway? Because from the look of that table, you unplugged it around 50%...
cooper5005 said:
I have a galaxy note 3 N9005 and the battery life is not what it should be. I've owned this phone for about 5 days. I always have power saving mode on with all the smart and air features disabled. I charged my device to 100%. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks
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You have defective battery plain and simple. All this talk of calibration is for birds. This lithium batteries don't need that.
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YungMage said:
You have defective battery plain and simple. All this talk of calibration is for birds. This lithium batteries don't need that.
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What's your battery life like?
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Depends on my usage but I keep my screen off auto brightness but I also always keep wifi on. I get a day easily.
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YungMage said:
Depends on my usage but I keep my screen off auto brightness but I also always keep wifi on. I get a day easily.
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Don't know why it removed this pic
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You were playing modern combat 4 right ?
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No Asphalt 8. Why do you ask?
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If you're playing games you can't expect more than 3-4 hours battery life.
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MohJee said:
If you're playing games you can't expect more than 3-4 hours battery life.
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I am not OP. I haven't measured playing time on battery life.
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cooper5005 said:
I have a galaxy note 3 N9005 and the battery life is not what it should be. I've owned this phone for about 5 days. I always have power saving mode on with all the smart and air features disabled. I charged my device to 100%. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks
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Simple question: Full brightness, yes or no?
arsi123 said:
Simple question: Full brightness, yes or no?
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Sorry about the late reply. I have my brightness on Auto.
Thanks
Should I take my note 3 back for a new one?
Thanks
cooper5005 said:
Should I take my note 3 back for a new one?
Thanks
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I would just to head off a Pandora box of ish. I pretty sure it's battery but why not just get new device get a second unboxing feeling plus the sooner you do it less attached you are to current device. Then pimp out new device with DynamicNotification. My 3 cents
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Update from morning
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Update 2
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My battery life has been great. Far exceeded all expectations.
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I have been having some issues as well
its getting better since last Thursday since i got it but its still not 1 day.
it used to be 5 hours from 100% to 20% brightness in auto
Do we have to "train" the battery to achieve max capacity?
is it battery defect or phone?

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