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Replacement Nexus backlight bleed, Should you have returned it or kept it?

Hi!
Just got my replacement Nexus 7 but noticed that it has some backlight bleed. Should I return it or is this Normal? See picture
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I have it on my display, for me isn't a big problem, but If it is for you just change it.

Thx for the reply loscamos! Do you have same amount of bleeding?
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Do you consider bleeding on picture to be minor? The picture shows the tablet in a dark room with 100% brightness just to show the bleeding. I can see it on dark picture on normal brightness aswell but its not as noticeable as on picture.

I have the tiniest bit of bleed which is hardly noticeable but I have to admit that's more than I would call acceptable. Especially if you can see it sometimes whilst using apps.
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Doraso said:
Thx for the reply loscamos! Do you have same amount of bleeding?
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Do you consider bleeding on picture to be minor? The picture shows the tablet in a dark room with 100% brightness just to show the bleeding. I can see it on dark picture on normal brightness aswell but its not as noticeable as on picture.
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Do you normally sit in a dark room, with a black screen with the brightness turned all the way up? Do you notice it under normal use?
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dparrothead1 said:
Do you normally sit in a dark room, with a black screen with the brightness turned all the way up? Do you notice it under normal use?
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Not as much as on the picture but yes I notice it a little bit under normal use. I noticed it when I started the tablet under Google logo thats why I decided to download a backlight bleed test app and see how much It was. It is hard not to notice it because I know that it is there. If it is normal I can accept it but if there are tablets without it Im thinking: why should I accept it?

Here is the same picture taken with the normal brightness I use. Maybe Im just to picky??? Looks alot better.

Doraso said:
Here is the same picture taken with the normal brightness I use. Maybe I'm just to picky??? Looks a lot better.
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That's not too bad, I'd say that mine was just about the same. The only reason my bleed doesn't bother me is because I never see it unless I'm booting up.

I returned the one in the picture. It was my second return (the first one had 5 defective pixels), so the retail chain I bought it from refused to exchange it for another and gave my money back (if you're from Romania, I'm talking about Altex, a bunch of unprofessionals, they think that the retail buisiness is all profit, no responsibilities/losses/putting costumer satisfaction in front of apparent financial gain). It looks worse than yours, but my first one, the one that had the defective pixels looked better than both yours and my second one from that point of view (the first one had some light bleed, but distributed over a larger area).

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I returned the one in the picture. It was my second return (the first one had 5 defective pixels), so the retail chain I bought it from refused to exchange it for another and gave my money back (if you're from Romania, I'm talking about Altex, a bunch of unprofessionals, they think that the retail buisiness is all profit, no responsibilities/losses/putting costumer satisfaction in front of apparent financial gain). It looks worse than yours, but my first one, the one that had the defective pixels looked better than both yours and my second one from that point of view (the first one had some light bleed, but distributed over a larger area).
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Yeah that one on the picture is much worse. Im swedish and the company I bought mine from has been extremly understanding and helpful. Have had a fair share of "bad luck" with the Nexus 7. But Im leaning towards keeping this one, as I recall it all my Nexus tablets have had some degree of backlight bleeding. Maybe the ones without it are rare????

Those pics are bad, return it. I had one with less lightbleed than that, but it still bothered me so I returned it, and am so glad I did
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General consensus on light bleed?

I know I have it a little on mine. Taking a picture of it makes it look worse than it actually is.
Are we all experiencing light bleed, or did some who received their units get a bleed free device?
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Very minimal but I don't notice it whatsoever unless I'm specifically looking for it on an all black screen. Some people may have it worse than myself, but I believe a lot of people are exaggerating and/or OCD about the quality of screen light bleed. For me, it doesn't change anything other than it is -the- best screen I have ever used on a tablet.

I don't see any on mine
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duarian said:
I know I have it a little on mine. Taking a picture of it makes it look worse than it actually is.
Are we all experiencing light bleed, or did some who received their units get a bleed free device?
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Maybe I'm lucky, but after thorough analysis I can safely say that my screen doesn't have any light bleed.
My only complaint with the display is the color saturation: I like to use the dimmest screen setting to save battery and my eyesight when using in dimly lit rooms (like right now), but I feel like the colors get washed out when it's at the lowest level. This is fixed when I raise the brightness up to about 5-10%. Perhaps this problem is true for all screens, but compared to my one x, it's more noticeable.

I've got some pretty bad light bleed in the bottom right corner (and a little on the sides as well). It's only really noticeable at high brightness on dark colors (like the black bar in the right corner LOL). I don't find it distracting unless I'm trying to watch a video that has a black letterbox.

Can some one explain why light bleeding is bad?

I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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darkstar765 said:
I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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It's a personal thing as to how much light bleed you can tolerate, and some light bleed is going to occur on almost any LCD panel.
Good news is, it's not a condition that gets worse (usually) so what you have now is all you'll have. And it sometimes diminishes as the hardware is "broken in" (but don't get your hopes up).
In other words, if you have to go looking for it, chances are you can live with it. If it's not bothering you now, it's not likely to bother you more in the future. If it DOES bother you, RMA it, as it's likely to keep bothering you.

That's why.

wow, mine has no light bleed at all. That's pretty bad.

darkstar765 said:
I think I have a little and want to know the consequences for not returning it. Thank you
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As croak says its a very personal thing, and i guess its a matter of how you use it, Personally I use tablets alot whilst travelling, normally overnight, and play movies etc, which means dark surroundings and dark backgrounds which then shows any obvious light bleed and it sticks out.
If you just use it during the day with bright colourful backgrounds etc then as long as the bleed isn't really bad then you'll be fine.
so far i've only found 2 tablets with no light bleed, the Acer A510 and the Sony Xperia Tablet S, unfortunately both had other issues, the the Sony waterproof tablet not being waterproof for example lol.

Do note that light bleed is going to look 10x worse when captured with a camera.

I do have some, but you can barely if at all see it with auto-brightness. Ha ha, idk why I get so picky about my displays. Especially considering i'll probably buy the new one next year.

[Q] how much light bleed is too much?

I have some light bleed in both of the bottom corners. They are clearly visible on 100% brightness in a completely dark room while displaying a black image, however when the brightness is set to 0% I can only just make out where the bleed occurs. It's almost a yellowish hue and spurts off the edge of the display a few millimeters. Now with auto-brightness on and just using my device it doesn't really jump out to and when showing it to others they couldn't even spot it when I told them to look for it. I just wondered if others were having this issue and if it was worth it for me to try to RMA another one. Funny thing is I just turned on my old 7 inch galaxy tab 2 and it has some bleed, but its not nearly as noticeable. As someone was saying I just wonder if a larger percentage of these have light bleed then those that don't.

tcb4 said:
I have some light bleed in both of the bottom corners. They are clearly visible on 100% brightness in a completely dark room while displaying a black image, however when the brightness is set to 0% I can only just make out where the bleed occurs. It's almost a yellowish hue and spurts off the edge of the display a few millimeters. Now with auto-brightness on and just using my device it doesn't really jump out to and when showing it to others they couldn't even spot it when I told them to look for it. I just wondered if others were having this issue and if it was worth it for me to try to RMA another one. Funny thing is I just turned on my old 7 inch galaxy tab 2 and it has some bleed, but its not nearly as noticeable. As someone was saying I just wonder if a larger percentage of these have light bleed then those that don't.
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IMO, if you have to sit in a pitch black room and crank the brightness up to 100%, then I would definitely keep it."Too much" is hard to define; many ppl here will RMA until they find a "perfect" unit.
I've heard ppl say that not all devices have bleeding, but in a world of mass produced products, screen bleed is just a side effect of consumer demand.
My family uses both Apple and Google/Android products. This includes 1st gen iPad & 1st gen iPad 2, and 3 android tablets made by HP, Asus, and now, Google. They ALL have screen bleeding. (HP being the worst of the five)
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xIC-MACIx said:
IMO, if you have to sit in a pitch black room and crank the brightness up to 100%, then I would definitely keep it."Too much" is hard to define; many ppl here will RMA until they find a "perfect" unit.
I've heard ppl say that not all devices have bleeding, but in a world of mass produced products, screen bleed is just a side effect of consumer demand.
My family uses both Apple and Google/Android products. This includes 1st gen iPad & 1st gen iPad 2, and 3 android tablets made by HP, Asus, and now, Google. They ALL have screen bleeding. (HP being the worst of the five)
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True, and like you said a lot of them may have it. What I don't want to do is order another and have it be worse. I just wondered if it was common and if those that can make it out in everyday use are going to return it. With that said mine can't be too bad as it isn't visible on any other color than black.

tcb4 said:
True, and like you said a lot of them may have it. What I don't want to do is order another and have it be worse. I just wondered if it was common and if those that can make it out in everyday use are going to return it. With that said mine can't be too bad as it isn't visible on any other color than black.
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I would keep it sounds like minor light bleeding for you. It's normal to have some light bleed anyways. I've had it on all my devices (IconiaA500, Galaxy tab 10.1, Prime, Infinity, Note 10.1). If its visible for me even during the day then it would bother me and I would replace it.
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jjdevega said:
I would keep it sounds like minor light bleeding for you. It's normal to have some light bleed anyways. I've had it on all my devices (IconiaA500, Galaxy tab 10.1, Prime, Infinity, Note 10.1). If its visible for me even during the day then it would bother me and I would replace it.
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It is visible during the day with auto brightness on, but it's only because of the black bar along the bottom. It is only just visible in lowish light with auto brightness on, so I don't know if I should send it back. The only thing I don't want to do is send it back and get one that has it worse.

does anyone not have light bleed?

Hi. I read a lot of light bleed issues.
Are there any without light bleed?
Is there a poll on this. I am curious about the ratio.
I am getting my nexus 10 today and will not be able to use it till the 25th.
I hope I wont be RMAing it on the 26th...
Thanks joe

I have purchased 3 N10s so far for myself, family member and a friend. All were purchased with 1 week or so gap and all 3 have backlight bleed to varying degree. Unless you have really bad bleed which is discoloured like too yellow, stick with what you have as there is every chance you might get worse piece.
While backlight bleed does not bother you most of the times, yellow one is whole different story.

Funkym0nkey said:
I have purchased 3 N10s so far for myself, family member and a friend. All were purchased with 1 week or so gap and all 3 have backlight bleed to varying degree. Unless you have really bad bleed which is discoloured like too yellow, stick with what you have as there is every chance you might get worse piece.
While backlight bleed does not bother you most of the times, yellow one is whole different story.
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Agree. My first one was the best, it was a relatively small bleed and it was white. I should have kept it. My 2 other replacements were yellow and that sucks. I am hoping my next replacement will be either no bleed or very small white bleed.

I haven't done a full-on light bleed test in a dark room yet, but I have not noticed any on my N10. So, if I have any on my screen, it's very mild.
I just received my N10 yesterday, so it's possible they've improved more recent ones...

I ordered mine the day it was released and I don't notice any at all either. I have not run a full test on it because if I don't see it (even when trying to find it) under normal usage conditions I do not really care if a test says I have it or not. Screen looks perfect to me so I am not really looking for reasons to not like it.

Would be good if you post on this thread to specify what is your BRIGHTNESS setting (full, auto, %, etc)

I have no light bleed on mine bought day of release.

matt212308 said:
I don't notice any at all either. I have not run a full test on it because if I don't see it (even when trying to find it) under normal usage conditions I do not really care if a test says I have it or not. Screen looks perfect to me so I am not really looking for reasons to not like it.
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The same. Fantastic tablet and although some people do seem to genuinely have a defective screen, some people are totally nitpicking and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. If your screen is totally black you're not actually using your tablet for anything so these tests people are running are pretty unrealistic.
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I'm sure all LCD displays have light bleed.

voodooevil said:
I am getting my nexus 10 today and will not be able to use it till the 25th.
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Christmas present then I guess? Mine is too but I convinced the wife to allow me to check it was fault-free and set it up with all my apps and settings so it's ready to go on Christmas day!
Whilst she was at work and it was my day off, I had a good 8 hours of fun testing
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sonicfishcake said:
The same. Fantastic tablet and although some people do seem to genuinely have a defective screen, some people are totally nitpicking and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. If your screen is totally black you're not actually using your tablet for anything so these tests people are running are pretty unrealistic.
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Completely agree with your comment. Some might have true issues. I can see that mine has a slight bleed on the right side but there will never be a time where I sit in a completely dark room and stare at a black screen. Even at full brightness the slight bleed does not affect the look of my tablet in any way. It's an all around beautiful device!

None i've noticed in normal use but also havent gone searching for it. If the only way you can see the light bleed is when the screen is completely black then who cares. If the screen is on and completely black all the time then you have others problems besides light bleed.

My n10 has very little to no light bleed
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None here. Got mine on Monday, expecting to have at least one issue...but not one so far.
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very slight bleed for mine, not noticeable until i turn up the brightness all the way up and really look for it with a black screen

Mine is perfectly fine. No issue.

Mine looks perfect. Of course I'm not looking specifically to see if I do. It amazes me how many people on the forums are going out of their way to look for issues with their tablet.
If it looks good while I'm using it and I have no issues I'm OK with that!!
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I'm not looking specifically to see if I do. It amazes me how many people on the forums are going out of their way to look for issues with their tablet.
If it looks good while I'm using it and I have no issues I'm OK with that!!
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Exactly. On any device, if you're looking for problems you'll inevitably find some but in the real world under usage you'll notice none whatsoever
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I did a bit more experimenting today. If I bring up a full-screen black image in a dark room with screen brightness at 100%, I can see some minimal light bleed in the lower two corners. My guess is, as others have said, that this is just going to be a given with these types of screens. I also noticed:
As soon as I set my screen brightness to auto, while still in a dark room with a full-screen black image, the light bleed was totally unnoticeable.
As soon as I turned on the lights in the room, with screen brightness still at 100% and a full-screen black image, the light bleed was totally unnoticeable.
So, for me at least, light bleed is only noticeable if I intentionally make it happen. Having the screen set to max brightness while in a totally dark room and a mostly black picture on screen is a pretty unlikely scenario in the real world. In normal usage I've never notice the light bleed, and I doubt I ever will.

I've been using my N10 since it was first released and the screen is perfect. Do you need unnatural or unusual conditions to detect light bleed?