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Better signal unrooted

I bought my ns4g about a week and a half ago coming from a tbolt on Verizon. I got it at 8pm and had it rooted by 9. I immediately installed cm7 and have been using every nightly. My signal was horrible. I had nothing at work and barely one at home. It also would barely hold a wifi signal even when laying the phone right next to my router. I've updated my profile and manually put prl 60679 on the phone and nothing improved. The only time I could get 3g was using the Verizon hybrid prl ( I don't have 4g here). I called sprint and updated the msi? And the lady said I was in great coverage at work and good at home. The signal was so bad in 4 ours of the phone sitting in my pocket doing nothing I lost 50% battery everyday. So this morning I unrooted to take the phone back to sprint for an exchange. I've been using it stock for about an hour and now wifi is good even outside my house and I get 2-3 bars most of the time. Is there any reason why this would be? I have owned about 90% of Verizon's android phones so I'm not new to this, I've just never seen this kind of difference between stock and rooted. I think I will wait and see if it stays like this or gets worse now and switch to the 3d if it is still bad. I switched to the nexus s because I love plain android, butit was so bad before I couldn't even make phone calls or send text unless I got lucky and it would connect.
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the only thing i know on the subject is i left my phone unrooted for a couple of days. never noticed a difference after rooting. seems to be many conflicting reports on signal issues when it comes to the nexus. i have generally lower signal (3g 4g wifi) than my evo. really hope its software related so i can get a fix.

Rooting doesn't affect the phone's radio.
Maybe the ROM was bad?

ive been watching my signal strength for a day and its usually around -86. my evo was always -90 or more

It could be the rom I just don't get it. I've never had a problem with cm7. I'm going to root and fund it stock rooted and see then maybe go with something else
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ive been watching my signal strength for a day and its usually around -86. my evo was always -90 or more
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-86 dbm is a *better* signal than -90 dbm.
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I sat at 101 before now I have 2 bars and I am at 86 now, best it has ever been
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Better look at the second number. Anything below 3 is bad reception.
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krohnjw said:
-86 dbm is a *better* signal than -90 dbm.
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i know. and now mt deactivated evo is at -57

My experience is the same. I get better service stock also. Your wasting your breath here though man. To many sprint engineers here
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Better look at the second number. Anything below 3 is bad reception.
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so -86 0 asu is bad? but im not having any issues

mikeyinid said:
My experience is the same. I get better service stock also. Your wasting your breath here though man. To many sprint engineers here
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stock as in rom? or unrooted?

Stock rooted. GRJ22 odexed. I use netarchy kernel but stock otherwise.
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stock as in rom? or unrooted?
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mikeyinid said:
Stock rooted. GRJ22 odexed. I use netarchy kernel but stock otherwise.
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damn i like soju 2.6 too. oh well stocks not bad either. i see theres 4 kernels to chose from and 2 are experimental
ok so i flashed my "out_of_the_box" back up and updated prl and profile and my status numbers are the same. i did notice tho that with soju 2.6 i was on evdo rev 0, and now back to stock im on rev A
now wtf? after i flashed a netarchy kernal (stable bfs 2.3.4) im on rev 0 again. what going on here?

Here's what I'm gauging my claim on. I live in a basement apartment so I get awful service anyway. But, on CM7 I can't make a call without it dropping, and mms is out of the question. On stock, I can almost always get through a call and mms sends no problem. I have an airave and its the same story on that. CM7 the mms just sits there with the icon spinning forever. Stock it sends almost instantly. I keep a backup of both and just switch between depending on what I'm doing.
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mikeyinid said:
My experience is the same. I get better service stock also. Your wasting your breath here though man. To many sprint engineers here
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My favorite quote "Engineers are educated beyond their intelligence." Ironically, I am in school for engineering

Now I have a problem. I rooted again and right now I am stock rooted. My signal is back to being bad again. So I can either remain stock or switch back to Verizon or go with 3vo. I came to sprint just for this phone so I can root and play. I don't know what to do. I have 18 days left until my 30 is up...
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I rooted a couple days ago, haven't noticed much of a difference in signal strength practically... BUT my time without signal went from 1% to about 8% . Obviously battery life suffered somewhat.
Currently I'm on EvDO rev. A.
Will continue to post updates.

So I have switched to the hybrid 00001 prl for now and I get decent signal, eve get some at work. I figure if I'm going to switch tithe 3vo in a week I won't go over the 300mb roam limit. Its a shame too I like this phone, I just want something j can play with.
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EVDO rev 0 to rev A switches depending on signal quality.
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Hspa+ problem

Hey guys, got my nexus 4 a couple of days ago coming from a galaxy s3, and I notice that I never get h+ like I used to do on my s3,it only gets to H, and the Internet speed of course is slower than it I was on my s3, I'm spending time in the same places I spent before but the speed isn't quite as good, I asume it's because it's only getting Hspa but not hspa+, any idea of why is this happening? Thanks in advance
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What ROM are you on?
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Depending what ROM you're using. Certain ROMs cant distinguish the difference between H and H+ on the status bar. However, you can manually check via Settings -> About Phone for HSPA+.

I'm using the stock rom, not rooted, I checked and it says HSPA:10 never days HSPA+
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The Nexus 4 is a HSDPA+42 device so you should get similar speeds as the S3 or even better with the Nexus 4 (unless you are talking about the LTE variant on a LTE network ). I don't think the S3 in general EVER showed HSPA+ as those stock devices always showed "3G" or "4G" or "4GLTE"
What kinda difference as we talking here anyways? 10Mbps or 1Mbps? Somewhere in between?
When it's saying HSPA:10 that's only HSPA and when it's idling. When you are actively using data it will show HSPA+:15 which is HSPA+ (21Mbps or 42Mbps depending on your carrier).

The s3 was the international, I'm not from the us, and I haven't measured the speed but I feel that it takes longer to load stuff, and it never shows h+ on top, only H :s, maybe it has something to do with the band of the carrier?
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LRC1710 said:
The s3 was the international, I'm not from the us, and I haven't measured the speed but I feel that it takes longer to load stuff, and it never shows h+ on top, only H :s, maybe it has something to do with the band of the carrier?
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Like the guy above said, check manually in about phone>status to see if you're getting H+ (when you're doing something that needs internet). Also try doing a speed test with both phones and see if the results are the same or similar.
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Well I started downloading and app and it said HSPA+:15, but it's weird that it dent say it on top, either way I feel the speed is slower than it was on the s3, I will test it when I get home to see what's going on... But it is DEFINETELY not faster
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Slowest Data Speeds on my Nexus 4

I have T-Mobile 30$ Prepaid plan with 5gb 4g data and then 3g unlimited plus 100 minutes. I have a download speed and upload speed of 100kb- 200kb. No idea why. I got higher scores on my Nexus One. coverage is perfect in my area. Is it my APN settings? I set it to IPV4/IPV6? Any help:laugh:

iTzTrevor said:
I have T-Mobile 30$ Prepaid plan with 5gb 4g data and then 3g unlimited plus 100 minutes. I have a download speed and upload speed of 100kb- 200kb. No idea why. I got higher scores on my Nexus One. coverage is perfect in my area. Is it my APN settings? I set it to IPV4/IPV6? Any help:laugh:
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i've had this problem. you can check your apn settings here. but when i talked to customer support they pretty much told me if that's the speed it i get then they can't do anything about it. so if anyone else has any more info that'd be cool. :good:

Maybe u getting throttled?
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I love my data speeds on T-Mobile monthly 4G...T-Mobile 3G is slow are you sure you can't get H (4G) in your area. Tmobile's 4G will actually only come on when data is being used. So I suggest browse the web for a little bit and when you see H come on then run a speedtest. But the phone idols at 3G and I didn't have to mess with any APN settings.
Edit: I am on the 70 dollar plan unlimited everything and no throttling.

No that's impossible... I only used 500mb so far...and I have a payment due in three days. I have H all the time. My iPhone 4 gets faster speeds...and that's stuck on 3G
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Any help you guys? It's impossible that's mine is this slow if my nexus is faster
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What speeds were you getting with your Nexus One? And have you tested your WIFI speeds on your N4 are normal as you expect them to be?

8_8 said:
What speeds were you getting with your Nexus One? And have you tested your WIFI speeds on your N4 are normal as you expect them to be?
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Yeah they are. I got like 3-4 mpbs on my Nexus One as well as my iPhone 4. My Nexus 4 gets 200-300KB 3-5 bars H icon. I get my usual 15 mpbs on wifi so it cant be the radio on the phone..

is there a HSPA+ option that we could turn on and off. or is it when there is HSPA+ it automatically connect.
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You can enter *#*#4636#*#* and change to WCDMA to GSM auto. See if that works. I have a nexus 4 and a contract plan with t mobile and I have HORRIBLE speeds. But yet good reception? Here's my screen shot
Look full bars and H
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This is FULL reception. I know its tmobile because I get 12.00 Mbps for about 5min / 4 times a day, if I'm lucky
Have you tried calling tmobile?
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Even after a month i still have these issues. Is this a defect on the Nexus 4? I've had three replacements and it still persists.

iTzTrevor said:
Even after a month i still have these issues. Is this a defect on the Nexus 4? I've had three replacements and it still persists.
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Have you tried a new SIM card?
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Opentang said:
Have you tried a new SIM card?
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No but what would that do xD?

Confirming that I'm having the same problem, on at&t. My Nexus 4 gets terrible speeds compared to my 850 Mhz Nexus One and my One S. Same SIM and APN on all of them.
It's also ridiculously slow to switch the data connection on (read: to show H+ in the status bar or start showing the up and down arrows.

My data is really horrible

I'm in Houston Texas on T-Mobile.
It seems it takes a long time to connext to something. Web browsing is ok and instagram takes forever to load pics. I have full bars when this is happening and sometimes on 3g and sometimes on hspa.
I am wondering if the phone is defective or the service is that ****ty
I used to be on tmobile went to Verizon and came back to tmobile.
Vz is way more expensive but now I see why.
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Seems like you already made up your mind that it is the service.
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The point of this thread is for?
In before the lock!
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Have you tried tmobiles LTE here in Htown? It is better than decent. Ive been using it since they flipped the switch and I must say that the last couple of weeks has been kinda wonky... Hopefully they are just trying to work out the bugs.

Likely the network is clogged. It happens on verizon too like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-VVwPqhXw

Actually, I have a similar issue where if I don't use data for like ten seconds and I try to use it, there's a long delay (long enough to cause a loss of connection on the game Word feud) in which it comes back after like 5-10 seconds. I think that's called latency? I'm not sure and wanted to know if there's a way to fix that lag. Thanks in advance.
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Its gotten progressively worse here by the reliant. Its worse than edge speeds even though I'll have full bars. Its annoying to have to carry around my VZW hotspot all the time. It didn't used to be this bad. Maybe its the influx of new iPhone users. Grrrr
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No problems here in Tampa Florida. I regularly get approximately 20mbps down all the time except for peak hours, then its usually still around 15 or so. Hope you figure it out.
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Yea I mean when I first got the phone it was fine and it just keeps getting worse. Idk I was thinking maybe if it was a setting.
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Poor signal

So has anyone found a solution to the bad reception and 4glte bouncing around to no service. I've read several forums so I'm not the only one . It just pisses me off that I paid full price and Verizon gives you the run around and wants to send you a certified replacement. What a joke. We are in desperate need of an update.
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cam1pbell said:
So has anyone found a solution to the bad reception and 4glte bouncing around to no service. I've read several forums so I'm not the only one . It just pisses me off that I paid full price and Verizon gives you the run around and wants to send you a certified replacement. What a joke. We are in desperate need of an update.
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I find it helps to turn on airplane mode then turn it off. Resetting the radios often helps it pick up 4g again.

We shouldn't have to keep toggling just to maintain lte. I called Verizon the other day and they put in a ticket but I don't think much is going to come of it.
This phone's reception is much weaker than the droid DNA. In places I got steady 4g, it now goes back and forth from 3g.
The signal strength is like a good 10-20+dbs worse than the DNA in the same spots. (I'm pretty much only at work and home do nothing's changed except the phone).
Sometimes with this phone, it'll show connected to lte (1-2 bars on the icon) but I can't get anything to load. No websites, no rhapsody streaming, nothing. All apps time out trying to connect. But that might be just a specific area at work. Regardless, I'm sure that even at home, the signal strength is always over -100 when the DNA would regularly be sub -100
So annoying.
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dwkeepinup said:
We shouldn't have to keep toggling just to maintain lte. I called Verizon the other day and they put in a ticket but I don't think much is going to come of it.
This phone's reception is much weaker than the droid DNA. In places I got steady 4g, it now goes back and forth from 3g.
The signal strength is like a good 10-20+dbs worse than the DNA in the same spots. (I'm pretty much only at work and home do nothing's changed except the phone).
Sometimes with this phone, it'll show connected to lte (1-2 bars on the icon) but I can't get anything to load. No websites, no rhapsody streaming, nothing. All apps time out trying to connect. But that might be just a specific area at work. Regardless, I'm sure that even at home, the signal strength is always over -100 when the DNA would regularly be sub -100
So annoying.
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Yes it is very annoying. Thanks for feedback. I still love the phone. For such a beast of a phone it should have 5 five bars all the time. Lol
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The update did not fix my poor reception issues. Anyone else still having problems?
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icemike557 said:
The update did not fix my poor reception issues. Anyone else still having problems?
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The update made my phone snappier. As far as the signal , I think it might have helped a little bit. I know it doesn't sit there for a few seconds when calling someone. It used to take forever.
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Okay here's where I'm at now this phone is really pissing me off I've been stuck in 3G all day long. It bounces back and forth so when I get off work tonight I'm going to call Verizon and see what they can do.?
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I just switched from my SGS3 to the new Note 3 and my reception is much better now.
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cam1pbell said:
Okay here's where I'm at now this phone is really pissing me off I've been stuck in 3G all day long. It bounces back and forth so when I get off work tonight I'm going to call Verizon and see what they can do.?
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The antennas in this phone blows it's no other way around it.
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I think I'm going to sell my note 3 and buy the developer addition. Only problem is I paid full price. I'm willing to lose a couple hundred bucks for a good signal.
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Bsmith0731 said:
The antennas in this phone blows it's no other way around it.
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garbage
If being better than the GS3 "blows" then okay.....
Not only is my cellular reception much better, my wifi reception is much better too. Good enough that in places that both didn't work before I now get at least usable 1x or one bar 3g/4g data.

I also had the gs3 . This phone by far kicks the gs3 butt. I will agree the gs3 signal is twice as good. My galaxy note 3 works awesome if I'm not at work or in my house. It is what it is.
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Well I switched modems. So hopefully my signal improves. MJE firmware rooted with MI9 modem
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cam1pbell said:
Well I switched modems. So hopefully my signal improves. MJE firmware rooted with MI9 modem
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Is MJE any better?
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garbage
If being better than the GS3 "blows" then okay.....
Not only is my cellular reception much better, my wifi reception is much better too. Good enough that in places that both didn't work before I now get at least usable 1x or one bar 3g/4g data.
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Every experience is different. I Have A DROID Bionic And I Use It For Work And I Constantly Notice The Bionic On 4G And The Note 3 On 3G. It's not all the time obviously but it's enough to be noticeable.
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Is MJE any better?
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Every experience is different. I Have A DROID Bionic And I Use It For Work And I Constantly Notice The Bionic On 4G And The Note 3 On 3G. It's not all the time obviously but it's enough to be noticeable.
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Well so far no improvement. I'm going to let it settle for a few days before I change it back.
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I dunno. This phone gets all around better reception than my GS3 did. On MJE here.
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OP, have you dropped your phone perhaps? I just read about the "LDS" technology they started using beginning with the Note 3 that integrates the antenna into the actual frame of the device. They say stress on the frame could cause the antenna itself inside to crack affecting signal.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/12/05/galaxy-s5-may-borrow-note-3-tech-slim/

neyenlives said:
OP, have you dropped your phone perhaps? I just read about the "LDS" technology they started using beginning with the Note 3 that integrates the antenna into the actual frame of the device. They say stress on the frame could cause the antenna itself inside to crack affecting signal.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/12/05/galaxy-s5-may-borrow-note-3-tech-slim/
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No I haven't dropped my phone. my phone is very well taken care of. After using the MI9 modem for a day I've had twice the battery life. At 14 hrs I had 51%battery with 5 hours of on screen time. Thanks for the feedback.
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I don't think people in here realize different manufacturers phones get different reception. HTC and Moto phones will ALWAYS get better signal. Its a fact of life. Just because your note 3 is newer doesn't mean anything.
And if your still thinking of switching to Dev Edition for better signal, your in for a surprise..... That phone has the same radio hardware in it that the Note 3 you currently have does. Wouldn't waste the "couple hundred bucks" looking there for better signal.
PS - my Note 3 gets phenomenal signal. Not as good as my HTC One did (obviously) but better than all the other flagship phones Verizon has had in the last 2 yrs.
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TechSavvy2 said:
I don't think people in here realize different manufacturers phones get different reception. HTC and Moto phones will ALWAYS get better signal. Its a fact of life. Just because your note 3 is newer doesn't mean anything.
And if your still thinking of switching to Dev Edition for better signal, your in for a surprise..... That phone has the same radio hardware in it that the Note 3 you currently have does. Wouldn't waste the "couple hundred bucks" looking there for better signal.
PS - my Note 3 gets phenomenal signal. Not as good as my HTC One did (obviously) but better than all the other flagship phones Verizon has had in the last 2 yrs.
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You are correct sir I think I'm just doomed with the area I live in but MI9 modem did help my signal or mostly my battery life.
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