WiFi not swapping between Access points - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys,
I am working on boat and we have multiple Access points setup around vessel.
My phone connects fine to any of them but when I move location it just stays on the original AP it joined and doesn't roam between them and stops working - If I disconnect and reconnect it works fine again...
Is there anyway of making the Wifi more aggressive so it will join the strongest signal AP?
Thanks,
Andy

Are all the APs setup with the same SSID/WPA? That's how roaming would work but if they are:
Boat1/WPA1
Boat2/WPA2
The phone sees them as separate networks and will hold onto the one you first connected to then it will "let go" once it's no longer available. So if it's setup as my example, tell your IT guy to quit being a retard and do as I command him to. -
If it is setup "properly" then i'm not so sure whats the issue. I would assume it's set up with all the same stuff to help make it easier for customers/clients to access the network with the same password all the time.
Or is it an OPEN network which directs you to a website to log in?

In your advanced wifi setting try checking "avoid poor connections". See if that helps it to switch.

shotta35 said:
Are all the APs setup with the same SSID/WPA? That's how roaming would work but if they are:
Boat1/WPA1
Boat2/WPA2
The phone sees them as separate networks and will hold onto the one you first connected to then it will "let go" once it's no longer available. So if it's setup as my example, tell your IT guy to quit being a retard and do as I command him to. -
If it is setup "properly" then i'm not so sure whats the issue. I would assume it's set up with all the same stuff to help make it easier for customers/clients to access the network with the same password all the time.
Or is it an OPEN network which directs you to a website to log in?
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Hey, all the AP are setup the same the phone just isn't swapping between them, it just stays on the one it originally connects to. I have no issues with my laptop or old desire they both work fine on board.
Andy

grubbster said:
In your advanced wifi setting try checking "avoid poor connections". See if that helps it to switch.
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I tried that, no luck

I am running Matr1x kernel, could that have anything to do with it?

There's an app called 'Best Wifi' that I've been using. It will switch APs if the signal drops below a certain level.
Hope that helps!

JohnnyTA said:
There's an app called 'Best Wifi' that I've been using. It will switch APs if the signal drops below a certain level.
Hope that helps!
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Thanks Johnny, that app is working

I'll give best wifi a shot, I've been having the same problem since I got the phone and my solution is just to toggle wifi.

If you're AP's are WPA 2 Enterprise with authorization, Android devices have problems switching between them.

I just want to report back that Best WiFi has been working for me.
2 APs WPA2 Personal

WiFi doesn't have seemless AP pass-off like cell tech, even with Best Wifi, if you're on a VOIP voice call and you're moving between APs, you'll lose your call when it switches between the AP. It's a limitation of the technology.
deltatux

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WIFI and GPRS not working

I'm really racking my brain on this one. I would greatly appreciate any ideas, as I've long run out of them.
---Intro---
I have a one week old Wizard (Cingular 8125 variant). It has one of the latest roms with AKU2 on it. Using Registry Wizard, I selected the option to add wireless G compatibility at some point in time. Wireless initially worked after setting my phone and router up per a tutorial on a popular Axim users forum. A day or two later I went to use WIFI and I get nothing. GPRS/EDGE initially worked also, but at the same time it stopped working. I've spent countless hours since trying everything I possibly can to get WIFI to work.
---The problem---
I am not able to connect to the wireless router. My Wizard sits on "connecting" forever then maybe 5 mins later it says unable to obtain an IP address. When I look at the status, it says 0.0.0.0 for the IP address the whole time it says connecting. Since the problem started, I have yet to actually connect using any settings. The first day I configured the wireless it worked perfectly, with WAP encryption and all.
---Some of what I have tried---
On my US Robotics wireless router I've turned mac filtering and all security settings off, making an open network. I removed the WAP setting for the connection on the Wizard as well. I've tried all the suggestions I can find on any WM 5 and 2003se related forums to no avail. I've tried all the various combinations of limiting to B/G only or mixed, using work/internet settings, and deleting WIFI connections and creating new ones. I don't have a proxy setting in any of my connections. The whole time my battery usage is set to the highest (performance) setting and I'm right next to the wireless router. I've tried turning off all proprietary speed enhancement options. I even installed a program (Pocket DHCP) recommended by Axim PPC users to figure out why I'm not receiving an IP. Since I'm not really a DHCP wiz, I can't tell from the results what is causing this.
I'd be greatful if anyone can help me with figuring this one out. Thanks in advance!
maybe a dumb question, but...the wireless part of the router is working fine? did u tryed with a laptop or pc?
did u tried a hard reset?
That's actually a great question. I did connect fine the first day I configured the wireless and made no changes from then until it stopped working, so I'm just assuming that the router is working properly. Unfortunately I don't have access to any other wireless device/laptop to test it with.
I'm getting ready to do a hard reset right now. I was really wanting to avoid this but I think I have no other option. Hopefully this will fix whatever setting was messed up. I have a slight hunch that the registry change for allowing G access was the cause of the problems.
maybe i missed this in the original post, but have you tried making your device use static ip's on the lan instead of dhcp?
Shogunmark:
I didn't try static IP's for two reasons. 1. Firstly I couldn't figure out how to set this up. 2. I don't want to have to fiddle with removing the static IP when I'm away from home trying to use a different wifi hotspot. I would like it to be seamless and just connect when I turn wifi on near any unsecured network (other than the usual pressing OK to connect).
STATUS UPDATE:
I did a hard reset and directly after this I tried to connect to my open network. Amazingly GPRS/EDGE now works, but WIFI still does not. Then I did a factory reset on my USR router then changed the settings back to how it was just set before. Now, I'm connecting. This doesn't make any sense since the settings are the same now but it's working, maybe theres a glitch with the router that this fixed. This small progress seams like a miracle.
Now that I can connect to WI-FI, I have a new problem. When I try to load pages in internet explorer, it says page not found or whatever the standard error message is. I'm so close I can smell it. There must be some setting that needs to be changed on my Wizard.
SUCCESS
I report that I am now absolutely delighted with network connection on my Wizard. After hard reseting the phone and the router, now I can connect to both WIFI and GPRS. Not only that... but also PIE will choose WIFI if I'm connected to a wireless router, otherwise it will default to GPRS/EDGE without any interaction from me. This stuff is really awesome when it works. It is difficult to setup correctly though.
somehow wifi routers r not 100% reliable, every now and then i need to reset my linksys or i cant get ip as in your case...but with a normal reset is enough in my case...
That's good to know. Maybe I didn't even need to hard reset my Wizard, just the router. Now I know to start with the router because it's much easier to reconfigure. This is the first time that I've implemented WIFI on my own network. What happens if a public WIFI spot won't give you an IP anymore? Surely you just can't go and reset it. Granted it's not nearly as old as Ethernet, WIFI has been out for long enough that you think they would have these major kinks worked out.
Nicnatros said:
... but also PIE will choose WIFI if I'm connected to a wireless router, otherwise it will default to GPRS/EDGE without any interaction from me.
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How did you manage this? I have been struggling for ages to set things up this way. Can you post your settings from settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks. Also settings>connections>network cards.
I would like to be able to just turn on wlan from comm manager and use wifi to surf and connect to my wireless lan, but if no wifi available to default to my T-mobile gprs connection for surfing. Currently having to manually change the settings "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using" My Work Network or Tmobile gprs each time I want to use either.
What I want is the option
if wifi available
use wifi
else use gprs
Well my friends and I were like sitting around drinking foo-foo drinks and I just like stumbled upon the answer. Just kidding, it's fun to play the role of your avatar, especially mine.
Settings, Connections tab, Network Cards, Network Adapters tab: My network card connects to Internet
Settings, Connections tab, Connections, Advanced tab, Select Networks: Set first one to My work network. Set second one to MediaNet (or your gprs/edge/etc connection profile).
Now with those set, edit the My Work Network profile and make sure that under the proxy tab check connects to the internet option, uncheck the proxy option. Now edit your MediaNet (or other carrier data plan) and make sure that this contains all options for your carrier like proxy, modem, etc. If you are a Cingular user, go here to verify all settings for medianet. (Note that you will ignore the beginning couple steps when they say to place medianet first in the "select networks" settings. Start after step 6. Also they used the CingularGPRS connection profile instead of the MediaNet one) http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...ular-8125-windows-mobile-5-phone-edition.html
When you connect to your WIFI router first and it asks you if it's work or internet, always select internet. If you are not sure what it's set at, go out of range or unplug your router. Go into network cards and find your router SID, click and hold on it and select remove. Then when you try to connect to your WIFI again it will prompt you for this, make sure you use internet setting.
Now if you have done everything correctly, Internet Explorer will use WIFI when it's turned on and you get a connection. All other times it will default to GPRS/EDGE. I can go from one to the other back and forth without changing any settings, only enabling and disabling WIFI in the comm manager.
Trashman said:
somehow wifi routers r not 100% reliable, every now and then i need to reset my linksys or i cant get ip as in your case...but with a normal reset is enough in my case...
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Linksys WRT54Gx? if yes look into dd-wrt . stable and has a lot of features . other hardware is supported as well just check on their webby.
yaboc said:
Linksys WRT54Gx? if yes look into dd-wrt . stable and has a lot of features . other hardware is supported as well just check on their webby.
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I have read many many many posts about people having issues with the wizard and that exact router... I personally would stay away from linksys.. i work in a field that deal with 3rd party routers and such, anytime an end user has a linksys i can usually prove 90% of the time that its the culprit (80% of the time powercycling it does the trick)
Nicnatros said:
Go into network cards and find your router SID, click and hold on it and select remove. Then when you try to connect to your WIFI again it will prompt you for this, make sure you use internet setting.
Now if you have done everything correctly, Internet Explorer will use WIFI when it's turned on and you get a connection. All other times it will default to GPRS/EDGE. I can go from one to the other back and forth without changing any settings, only enabling and disabling WIFI in the comm manager.
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This seemed to do the trick for me.
I am sure that I had tried all possible combinations previously but what the hell, it is working exactly how I want now.
Thank you

(8525) Wifi and GPRS/UMTS Connection...

I don't know what is going on but when I'm at home, I woud usually be connected to UMTS/GPRS. Of course, having wifi at home, I would rather use that (speedwise) but when I turn on wifi, I notice that I would be connected to both WIFI and UMTS/GPRS.
FIRST QUESTION:
Which am I utilizing? UMTS/GPRS or WIFI?
Now, considering that I "THINK" I'm using wifi, I would launch PIE and to go to a website, it takes forever...... The task bar keeps saying locating. I have to literally wait and wait before I get to the website.
SECOND QUESTION:
What is going on here?
At any rate, if I turn WIFI off and I'm just connected to GPRS/UMTS, I can browse using PIE without any problems. No "locating..." etc. or waiting.
Please help!
nutnbolt said:
I don't know what is going on but when I'm at home, I woud usually be connected to UMTS/GPRS. Of course, having wifi at home, I would rather use that (speedwise) but when I turn on wifi, I notice that I would be connected to both WIFI and UMTS/GPRS.
FIRST QUESTION:
Which am I utilizing? UMTS/GPRS or WIFI?
Now, considering that I "THINK" I'm using wifi, I would launch PIE and to go to a website, it takes forever...... The task bar keeps saying locating. I have to literally wait and wait before I get to the website.
SECOND QUESTION:
What is going on here?
At any rate, if I turn WIFI off and I'm just connected to GPRS/UMTS, I can browse using PIE without any problems. No "locating..." etc. or waiting.
Please help!
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While on wifi you can temporarily turn off GPRS using connections hard key below on/off hard key. Just tap on the icon that looks like a pda with two arrows. When off wifi reconnect GPRS using connections in settings menu.
Mike.
Ok. goodie. I was able to shut off the GPRS.
Now I launched internet explorer. The only connection that I'm connected to is my wifi. Still the taskbar is saying "Locating.." taking forever to go anywhere.
nutnbolt said:
Ok. goodie. I was able to shut off the GPRS.
Now I launched internet explorer. The only connection that I'm connected to is my wifi. Still the taskbar is saying "Locating.." taking forever to go anywhere.
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At least one step in right direction. I'm not so hot on the slow connection. Assume ports and proxies are setup ok.
Perhaps others have some ideas.
Mike
elaborate on the proxy settings so i can check if these are right...
nutnbolt said:
elaborate on the proxy settings so i can check if these are right...
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In Start>Settings>connections there is an option "edit my proxy server" and within this lots of options.
I will have a different provider from you so don't know what settings should be there. I am also not an expert on this so hopefully someone who is will jump in with some info on this.
One person I was posting with queried why their wifi connection needed any proxy settings as they were not connecting through to their mobile operator but to their home broadband connection. However when they tweaked a setting here their Wifi suddenly started working. See Mariete's last post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284867
We need someone with more knowledge!! Anyone?
Mike
Well for one thing, there is no setting for proxy server. Even then when i did find anything to do with proxy server, it is not even activated.
Next..
Phew...Someone else with the same EXACT issue. I was on with Cingular/HTC support today and they really didn't help. I will keep trying new things and checking back to this thread to see if anyone else thinks of an idea.
I have a Apple Airport (802.11g) with no security settings. I have a few laptops on the network and friends who can connect their laptops without any issues.
I actually got tired of this issue. I downloaded and bought netfront. It was something I was going to buy anyway. So after installing it, I tried it again and this time, it goes to the website flawlessly. It must be something to do with IE.
On the other hand, I'm having some issues with shutting down the GPRS again. It keeps turning on automatically.
brmcguire said:
Phew...Someone else with the same EXACT issue. I was on with Cingular/HTC support today and they really didn't help. I will keep trying new things and checking back to this thread to see if anyone else thinks of an idea.
I have a Apple Airport (802.11g) with no security settings. I have a few laptops on the network and friends who can connect their laptops without any issues.
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everyone make sure they arent on their providers connection that utilizes the proxy.. i dont know about any provider except cingular.. when using wifi stay off MEDIA NET.. everyone's best bet is to make sure they are on the connection for MY ISP, go to settings, connections, connections, advanced, select networks, change the drop down to MY ISP. also make sure wifi is off before doing this, after changing to my isp then turn wifi back on and you should be ok...
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everyone make sure they arent on their providers connection that utilizes the proxy.. i dont know about any provider except cingular.. when using wifi stay off MEDIA NET.. everyone's best bet is to make sure they are on the connection for MY ISP, go to settings, connections, connections, advanced, select networks, change the drop down to MY ISP. also make sure wifi is off before doing this, after changing to my isp then turn wifi back on and you should be ok...
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I will give this a try. Thanks. I will keep everyone posted to my hopeful success.
Absolutely fantastic!!!
Hi All,
First of all, let me tell you that I was also suffering from the same problem of MediaNet proxy settings. I've done the same changes asked by "shogunmark" which really sounds good logicaly. And my wifi connection started working miraculously! Yes, it is miracle for me as I am trying to connect to WiFi for last 3 days! Thanks a lot again...
I got it to work as well. However, I couldn't use "My ISP" connection as it was pointing to a Cingular domain. I ended up creating a new one called Home and it works fine. I do have a question. Under Settings/Connections/Connections/Advanced/Select Networks...
What does everyone have selected in both drop downs? I had to select my new Home connection for both to get WIFI to work.
that cingular domain/AP is only used for edge/3G data with no proxy.. this is why this is used for wifi.. theoretically MEdia net would work if it didnt have the proxy... but the phone doesnt look at the AP name when on wifi, only the proxy, you shouldnt have needed to create a new connection!
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that cingular domain/AP is only used for edge/3G data with no proxy.. this is why this is used for wifi.. theoretically MEdia net would work if it didnt have the proxy... but the phone doesnt look at the AP name when on wifi, only the proxy, you shouldnt have needed to create a new connection!
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ok, so I should be able to keep Media Net on the top drop down and My ISP on the second drop down? I assume I should just be able to use the Comm Manager to switch between WIFI and the Cingular Data Connections?

WMWifiRouter & xv6800

Has anyone on Verizon with a xv6800 gotten WMWifiRouter to work? I have tried and tried and still have no luck. I installed ICS like others have said and this has still not made it work. If anyone has a xv6800 and has WMWifiRouter working, please help me out with some directions. Thank you in advanced for your help.
Mod Edit: Moved from Titan Upgrading
I use it every day
So far you said that you installed ICS so that should be ok. Make sure you turn on your wifi before wifirouter, and you know it is right when the 3 simi circles stop flashing and stay lit and the message is 'connected to wifirouter ready'. If it is like that then it is working and the problem is that maybe the wifi on the other end needs to be told to look for ad-hoc connection, some will not see one by default. Ad-hoc is the mode it uses.
It says it is conected but also says it is searching for ICS and WLAN and it never connects.
make sure your WiFi switch is on
yep
NotLutzik said:
make sure your WiFi switch is on
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That is what happens when the wifi is not working because it must bind with it. Go into your commanager and see what your wifi looks like and that the ad-hoc connection 'wifiminirouter' is there.
i was having the same problem. I uninstalled it, turned on the wifi switch then reinstalled it. I originally installed with the WiFi switch off and that apparently was the problem.
I got it. Thanks for your help everyone.
Okay, I have to ask since I haven't figured the program out. What does this program do? It allows a computer to connect to my phone via WiFi, while my phone is connected to the data network, thus giving my computer internet? I don't know.
Thats it exactly
whiteblazer01 said:
Okay, I have to ask since I haven't figured the program out. What does this program do? It allows a computer to connect to my phone via WiFi, while my phone is connected to the data network, thus giving my computer internet? I don't know.
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You get a cookie ;-) and not only that but it doles out many ip addresses so anyone in range of your phone can share it's EVDO.
Sweet! I like cookies! This phone really is a magic phone.
I have to admit I was wondering if this was going to work.
I live in a 1x world up here in NW Arizona. Yesterday was a road trip to Vegas, Wife had the laptop and she surfed the net through the connection and then when we got to Vegas we hit EVDO and life was very good.
I think I am going to have to get a Amp with a good external antenna for better reception though.
But this brings up another possible situation as posted above others may intercept the wifi. But cruising down the road that should be a very remote hazard.
The only problem developed last night on the way home . It was searching for ICS like the switch was off. I verifed it was correct. Looked at settings and the wifi icon was missing in action. Soft reboot brought it back and life was good again.
Conflict with Exchange
I installed the program on my Verizon 6800. My phone puts out a signal, my computer recognizes it, gets an ip address and connects, but when I open internet explorer I get the "page cannot be displayed" error.
I do have my phone receiving push email from exchange server. I went into communications manager and turned that off, but still can't connect.
The wmwifirouter site mentions this problem, but I was wondering if anyone has had any success connecting?
Thanks!
do you have your wifi switched turned on BEFORE you open wmwifirouter? your computer will still connect even if the actual connection to the internet is not there. disconnect your computer from the network. close wmwifirouter (or just soft reset for good measure). turn on your wifi switch, then start wmwifirouter, then connect. if you're on a laptop, just shut off your wireless until wmwifirouter is connected.
Thanks for the quick response.
I followed your directions:
1. Soft Reset,
2. Turn on WiFi on phone,
3. Open wmwifirouter program,
4. Turned on wireless connection on computer.
Again, everything connects, but get the same IE error. When I select the wireless network in my office, my computer connects instantly.
In the wireless LAN settings on my phone, the configuration shows:
SSID: WMWifiRouter
Mode: Ad hoc
BSSID: 02-18-41-33-01-09
Tx Rate: Auto
Channel: 11
Signal Quality: Almost a full bar
This program would be absolutely awesome if I could get it to work!
WAR_GA said:
Thanks for the quick response.
I followed your directions:
1. Soft Reset,
2. Turn on WiFi on phone,
3. Open wmwifirouter program,
4. Turned on wireless connection on computer.
Again, everything connects, but get the same IE error. When I select the wireless network in my office, my computer connects instantly.
In the wireless LAN settings on my phone, the configuration shows:
SSID: WMWifiRouter
Mode: Ad hoc
BSSID: 02-18-41-33-01-09
Tx Rate: Auto
Channel: 11
Signal Quality: Almost a full bar
This program would be absolutely awesome if I could get it to work!
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disconnect and reconnect to the network
Do you haveto run a custom ROM to use WMWiFiRouter or can you use Verizon's MR1?
wackychimp said:
Do you haveto run a custom ROM to use WMWiFiRouter or can you use Verizon's MR1?
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You can Verizon's one
I have WIFIRouter and love it. The only problem I have is after using it on my laptop, I have to delete the connection. If I do not the computers (Dell) wifi will only search for my phone, and will not connect to the router in my house until its gone.
I know this is not a phone issue, but a computer one, buut thought someone here might know.
Thanks
Reinstall with WiFi on - Reboot require
I was also able to get my xv6800 to work (using an iTouch) using the above suggestions. I uninstalled ICS and WMWiFi, reset the xv,and reinstalled ICS and then WMWifi "with the WiFi switch" on - thanks for the help!
I noticed that when I reinstalled ICS with the WiFi switch on, it said the changes would take effect after I restarted the xv, which it didn't do when I installed it with the WiFi switch off..
I also had to turn on the WEP encryption rather than "None" to get it to work, although that might have been fixed if I'd just reset the iTouch.
Scrufdog said:
i was having the same problem. I uninstalled it, turned on the wifi switch then reinstalled it. I originally installed with the WiFi switch off and that apparently was the problem.
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setting connection preference ???

is there a way to make sure the phone only connects to my home wi fi hub when at home and does not connect via my 3g vodafone connection. I want it to automatically select the fastest link and not waste my 3g allowance ? I've searched but cannot find a solution, thanks
+1 good idea, anyone got anything on this?
Andi,
The solution I would use would be to go to Settings>Wireless Controls and simply switch Data Connections off, Wifi On when at home.
You would have to remember to to reverse this when done if you want to access 3G services.
WB
u could use G-Profile.. It allows you to set up different profiles and switch them automatically based on your current cell id. Wifi on/3G off when at home, other way around when not. Works like a charm for me
thanks for the tip but when I do that it then automatically turns it back on even when I'm connected to the wireless hub, all of a sudden they both are on . . . . . . .?? any ideas ??
i have the same problem... it keeps using my 3G/EDGE network even if WIFI is available... and i dont get it how can HTC afford not to give us an option to set that the phone asks you for permission when connecting to 3G/EDGE network... this **** costs and im not really happy about the fact that my phone can connect to a network whenever it feels like.
(and yes this **** keeps happening even tho i disabled automatic updates in weather/time applications.)
In BSB tweaks if you press options I think there is an option to disable all data connections. I have never tried it but maybe it will override all connection attempt? Give it a try. Also, I flashed to the 2.01 ROM and I think the data connections are a little less persistent, though I don't wan't to guarantee anything!
andi1977dog said:
is there a way to make sure the phone only connects to my home wi fi hub when at home and does not connect via my 3g vodafone connection. I want it to automatically select the fastest link and not waste my 3g allowance ? I've searched but cannot find a solution, thanks
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does it not do that by default? i cant send emails through t-email when i'm at home - I just presumed this was because i was connected through my wireless router. turning off wifi allows me to send emails.
thus I presumed wifi takes preference?
I am wondering the same thing. The idealist situation would be to have both connections active at the same time, and let the HD2 make sure that wifi is used when the connection is there. Is there some kind of application to verify which connection is being used?
Great thread - I am not the only HD2 owner who is annoyed with the problem with the HD2 switching on its GRPS data connection without my approval!!!
Could it be that the HD2 turns off the wifi when it goes to sleep and then tries to connect to the web using the GPRS network? In that case how do I prevent turning off WIFI when in sleepmode?
I read somewhere else in this forum about a G-profile. Being a newbie with HTC I have no idea what this is. Any clue?
But overall: Yes, it would be great if HTC added an option to set network connection preferences.
WiFi does take preference if it's connected! Dont forget when you are at home and you turn your phone on from standby it will take 10sec or so to connect to your WiFi router, if you try and use IE, Opera, Twitter, Weather Update, Email, etc... before it's connected it will fire up your 3G data connection!
The phone does not how ever turn off your data conn when it's idle which is annoying! You need to use Bandswitch or CommManager from here http://www.commmgrpro.com/jsp/main_frame.jsf;jsessionid=103F335931311F019BD540B82E479383 or WMLonglife from this forum (do a search).
there must be someone out there with ghe know how and expertise to solve this ?? glad to see its an issue for othet folk, i like the idea for selecting wi fi over gprs if its there to be selected.......
I found out that my HD2 automatically closes the 3G connection when I have wifi active. I'm not sure why it does that, I know pretty sure that it had not always done that. But I'm quite happy with it
It turns 3G on again after disconnecting from WIFI, which is what I want.
so if you tap the notifications tab and the "contratc internet" is counting and the wi fii is connected it is using the wifi and not the "contract internet" even though the timer is counting ???
Can anyone confirm ???
p.s tried using the G-Profile software, it seems very inconsistant and didnt always turn off what it should when you select the profile so im going to unistall it.
for some reason the automatic internet settings from vodafone messes up/hides the "The Internet" or "MyISP" connection that is in the phone originally.. I even hard resetted but you just can't seem to stop the automatic settings..
disable the proxy of the "Vodafone live!" connection and it will work.. just like twitter etc..
the same with email only checking through 3G and not wifi.. but set the server settings of your account to "The Internet" after you disabled the proxy.. (advanced settings at the smpt server tab)
hope this helps.. but a thing worries me, as I don't know anything about proxies, why does vodafone specify a proxy if we don't realy need one.. to port us over their live portal or something? (on my old sony ericsson the track ID service didn't work because of that)
"disable the proxy of the "Vodafone live!" connection and it will work.. just like twitter etc.."
thanks but how do i do this ??
anyone know how i do this ? thanks
After including the Taskmanager as a quick link in HTC Sense I am now able to close all programs. Now I do no longer experience any unfortunate GPRS connections when connected to WIFI.
Only problem is that when running on batteries the WIFI connection is closed down when the unit enters sleepmode. However during sleepmode, if I have not closed down programs accessing the web these are now able to connect to the web by using the GPRS connection.
Why on Earth has HTS decided to decipher a click on the X as MINIMIZE and not CLOSE!!!
tnyborg said:
After including the Taskmanager as a quick link in HTC Sense I am now able to close all programs. Now I do no longer experience any unfortunate GPRS connections when connected to WIFI.
Only problem is that when running on batteries the WIFI connection is closed down when the unit enters sleepmode. However during sleepmode, if I have not closed down programs accessing the web these are now able to connect to the web by using the GPRS connection.
Why on Earth has HTS decided to decipher a click on the X as MINIMIZE and not CLOSE!!!
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I believe my Wifi connection is kept alive, even in sleepmode.
Josan123 said:
I believe my Wifi connection is kept alive, even in sleepmode.
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Sorry, forgot to mention this - but in order to save battery power I have asked the unit to close down the WIFI when in sleepmode (using BsB Tweaks). And indeed it gives me more battery life.

3g fallback for internet on wifi?

So I'm having trouble with getting wifi how I want it on my phone. At work we have a unsecured WAP with a web based authentication page. Trouble if you ever use it, it remembers the WAP and wants to login, but unless you you goto the web page, you have no internet. This is particularly a problem when wifi sleeps and looses connection.
The big issue with this is that my phone assumes it has internet when it doesn't. It doesn't fall back to 3g on failure to connect. That means I will not get texts for hours, facebook won't update, etc, etc.
Is there a way to force the phone to fall back to 3g when it fails to connect via wifi? Alternately is there an app that will parse a wifi login page and auto login for me? I'm running clean GB right now.
Geekybiker said:
So I'm having trouble with getting wifi how I want it on my phone. At work we have a unsecured WAP with a web based authentication page. Trouble if you ever use it, it remembers the WAP and wants to login, but unless you you goto the web page, you have no internet. This is particularly a problem when wifi sleeps and looses connection.
The big issue with this is that my phone assumes it has internet when it doesn't. It doesn't fall back to 3g on failure to connect. That means I will not get texts for hours, facebook won't update, etc, etc.
Is there a way to force the phone to fall back to 3g when it fails to connect via wifi? Alternately is there an app that will parse a wifi login page and auto login for me? I'm running clean GB right now.
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If wifi was active it should stay active there is an option to keep wifi on in the settings that way it wont go turn off/ go to sleep while its connected. Change the wifi sleep policy this will keep it from "disconnecting".
Settings>wireless & networks> wifi settings> press the menu button advanced> wifi sleep policy> Never
Geekybiker said:
So I'm having trouble with getting wifi how I want it on my phone. At work we have a unsecured WAP with a web based authentication page. Trouble if you ever use it, it remembers the WAP and wants to login, but unless you you goto the web page, you have no internet. This is particularly a problem when wifi sleeps and looses connection.
The big issue with this is that my phone assumes it has internet when it doesn't. It doesn't fall back to 3g on failure to connect. That means I will not get texts for hours, facebook won't update, etc, etc.
Is there a way to force the phone to fall back to 3g when it fails to connect via wifi? Alternately is there an app that will parse a wifi login page and auto login for me? I'm running clean GB right now.
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Yep like Big Goron said and my School has that thing to web authentication
Big Goron said:
If wifi was active it should stay active there is an option to keep wifi on in the settings that way it wont go turn off/ go to sleep while its connected. Change the wifi sleep policy this will keep it from "disconnecting".
Settings>wireless & networks> wifi settings> press the menu button advanced> wifi sleep policy> Never
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That's not the big problem though. If I lose connection (easy enough with out concrete walls and walking around) or simply don't login in first thing in the morning I still have the issue.
I either need a fallback to 3g or a way to auto login.
Geekybiker said:
That's not the big problem though. If I lose connection (easy enough with out concrete walls and walking around) or simply don't login in first thing in the morning I still have the issue.
I either need a fallback to 3g or a way to auto login.
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well i can tell you what i use Juice Defender and When WiFi is once it goes off my data kicks in so yeah that's my fallback to 3G so you could give that ago if you want.
IMO
Juice Defender= Battery Drainer and waste of money when i can do what it does manually.
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the phone should automatically go back to 3g when wifi disconnects i just tested this with my router i had it connected then pull the plug and it went to 3g.
Big Goron said:
IMO
Juice Defender= Battery Drainer and waste of money when i can do what it does manually.
To the OP:
the phone should automatically go back to 3g when wifi disconnects i just tested this with my router i had it connected then pull the plug and it went to 3g.
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ive done some tests without JD also helps in other areas BTW, and to let you know i put JD on Extreme and let no apps get data unless i manually toggle data and i can tell that my battery lasts much longer by at least by a few hours but still helps rather than my data always being funny randomly connecting and disconnecting to 3G or even if it was off JD does help.
Big Goron said:
IMO
Juice Defender= Battery Drainer and waste of money when i can do what it does manually.
To the OP:
the phone should automatically go back to 3g when wifi disconnects i just tested this with my router i had it connected then pull the plug and it went to 3g.
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It does when it disconnects, however since the wifi point is open it auto connects every time it picks it up again. Aside from manually forgetting the wifi point all the time, there doesn't appear to be a way to stop this. Connecting remembers it. Its not that I can't get around this manually, but its really annoying.
You could probably do something with a tasker profile. I don't know how to do it but they have a bunch of examples on their site that may help.
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It does when it disconnects, however since the wifi point is open it auto connects every time it picks it up again. Aside from manually forgetting the wifi point all the time, there doesn't appear to be a way to stop this. Connecting remembers it. Its not that I can't get around this manually, but its really annoying.
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I see your problem. You may be able to do this using scripting. The closest thing I have ever done like this is write a script that logged into my cable modem admin page automatically and grabbed the signal strength to log it. I used PHP (command line interpreter) but I would think any language should be capable of submitting data via a post request. Mine was triggered by cron. You would need to trigger on a successful wifi connection, check the ssid, and go from there. I dont know enough details about how that part is done to be helpful, but I know there are some apps that do detect active wifi connections (samba comes to mind) so it must be possible.
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Good suggestions so far, u could also try spare parts wifi sleep policy settings..
It might also be something where the connection on the wifi network's (not your phone's) end times out, in which case I'm not sure what to tell u.
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Geekybiker said:
It does when it disconnects, however since the wifi point is open it auto connects every time it picks it up again. Aside from manually forgetting the wifi point all the time, there doesn't appear to be a way to stop this. Connecting remembers it. Its not that I can't get around this manually, but its really annoying.
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DON'T USE THEIR WIFI! Problem solved.

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