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On-device C# compiler. Help me build it properly

Hello fellow developers,
over at the Kaiser forums, I have started a thread on my my attempt to port the DotGNU Portable.NET compiler toolchain to the Windows Mobile http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398204. I had partial success until now, so I' asking for assistance from anyone interested
Sorry for the thread abuse, but it seems that this effort doesn't draw much interest there, so I start this pointer here. I own a Kaiser myself, so it felt right to start the thread over there...
to Forum Administrators: Perhaps I should have started the thread in this forum, so please, feel free to either delete this thread, or relocate the original thread.
Thank you.
hypest

To Haykuro, Jesusfreke, DudeOfLife & other rom developers

I have a few ideas for the troubles developers are having here
1. Each rom developer should work together and have one area that only developers can give ideas and input, only select people would be allowed to post to the area but we could all view what is in the works, a semi private forum or community, this would cut down on spam and allow for uninterupted development
2. Developers shouldn't have to handle being customer care/support, they shouldn't have to deal with idiots that cannot rtfm or search, this takes time from their own ideas and development process as well as their own lives having to keep up with thousands of people.
3. In organized places like the linux kernel project developers are seperated from the community to a point to avoid such issues that turn away good developers. Basically the developers know what need to be done, its a passion of theirs and we are all lucky to take part in the experience
4. There is already communication between developers and maybe the mods could create a read only area for non-developers, and read/write for rom developers and trusted helpers
So if xda cannot create a seperate forum just for the developers to use and for people to view but not spam/other things I say the devs should just create another rom mod community
Thanks,
defcon

defconoi said:
I have a few ideas for the troubles developers are having here
1. Each rom developer should work together and have one area that only developers can give ideas and input, only select people would be allowed to post to the area but we could all view what is in the works, a semi private forum or community, this would cut down on spam and allow for uninterupted development
2. Developers shouldn't have to handle being customer care/support, they shouldn't have to deal with idiots that cannot rtfm or search, this takes time from their own ideas and development process as well as their own lives having to keep up with thousands of people.
3. In organized places like the linux kernel project developers are seperated from the community to a point to avoid such issues that turn away good developers. Basically the developers know what need to be done, its a passion of theirs and we are all lucky to take part in the experience
4. There is already communication between developers and maybe the mods could create a read only area for non-developers, and read/write for rom developers and trusted helpers
So if xda cannot create a seperate forum just for the developers to use and for people to view but not spam/other things I say the devs should just create another rom mod community
Thanks,
defcon
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The xda forum has been here for very long time. And that proves there's nothing wrong with the working model we're having here right now. Otherwise you wouldn't see an active forum like this, amirite?

Part of the problem here is that evryone in the community who has an interest in modding KNOWS that this is the place all the modders go. I agree if we created a tech support forum (or a sepperate website) with threads that can only be started by privilaged users then the madness would be contained within a logical structure.

I agree with this completely! This will force those that don't research (search and read appropriate topic) into doing some studying! We need to resolve this issue ASAP before we lose more of our top devs! I appreciate their hard work and the countless hours of effort they put in! I've read some of these long threads and they just keep getting longer by posters that ask a question that was answered at or near the beginning of the topics! Pretty ridiculous? I call it laziness!

I think this is a great idea. And also maybe an irc for devs and trusted helpers.

A forum is not a CMS

I think it's obvious to everyone here can agree that many users, especially new users, have a lot of trouble finding out which builds to use, their advantages, how to install, etc. They end up posting asking some already answered question and experienced members respond with the classic "RTFM". While these new users could search through multiple, 100+ page, constantly updating threads, can we really expect them too? Nobody honestly wants to spend over half an hour searching for a single answer or post. This is inefficient. We need a wiki or some maintained resource that we can point users to that clearly lays out all the builds, developers, features, tutorials, etc. I tried putting something together last night. I learned that for one, I am not good with putting together a web resource, and 2, this is going to take multiple contributors to maintain.
I am by no means trying to dictate to or criticize the community. We have some great individuals here. I only hope to make this community operate more easily and efficiently.

Have you tried http://wiki.xda-developers.com/

neoobs said:
Have you tried http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
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Yes, I'm aware of the xda wiki but it doesn't contain the content we need yet. Maybe a documentation team can be formed to start filling the wiki?

Of course, that is how all wiki's start. All it takes is that one person to stop posting a new thread about their directions and instead post it in the wiki.
And if you send me the links to the wiki pages I will put them in the corresponding threads to help get the word out.

Great! Is there a policy regarding copying and pasting tutorials and such? Giving credit to the author of course..

Just credit the author. Wiki's are made so that you can copy info from other places and just cite them at the bottom.

Dear Mod

Hello,
I've been scouring these forums for the past week for information on how to develop my own rom, During my search I have found that many other people are asking the same question. I'm wondering maybe it could be a good idea to create a new forum to bring all of these questions together along with the various tutorials for beginners that are currently available into a new section, i.e. Chef central for beginners, where people can learn together and share there findings and maybe the more generous of the knowledgeable members could pop in and give us newbies some occasional help.
Just a suggestion.
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