I have a non-rooted Nexus 7 16GB that I just got last month for Christmas. I've realized that from time to time it would just randomly shut off on me and reboot itself showing me that Nexus boot logo. Recently it has been shutting off mostly when I play games. When I played Modern Combat 4 for a good 15 minutes it randomly restarted, making me have to restart a whole entire mission. Now when I try to use Gameboid,(a GBA emulator) and play a few games on it would do the same thing and restart itself again. I have avast! antivirus always running in the background, could this be messing things up? or do I have another issue here?
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I have a non-rooted Nexus 7 16GB that I just got last month for Christmas. I've realized that from time to time it would just randomly shut off on me and reboot itself showing me that Nexus boot logo. Recently it has been shutting off mostly when I play games. When I played Modern Combat 4 for a good 15 minutes it randomly restarted, making me have to restart a whole entire mission. Now when I try to use Gameboid,(a GBA emulator) and play a few games on it would do the same thing and restart itself again. I have avast! antivirus always running in the background, could this be messing things up? or do I have another issue here?
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Do you have any lockscreen widgets (like HD widgets ....etc)
Turn off Google location services. Worked for me
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Odds are that it happening during games is merely coincidental. Random reboots are a known issue with 4.2 and 4.2.1. As has been started before me, turning off location services is workaround until Google comes up with a bugfix update.
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Odds are that it happening during games is merely coincidental. Random reboots are a known issue with 4.2 and 4.2.1. As has been started before me, turning off location services is workaround until Google comes up with a bugfix update.
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I may sound offensive, but I feel teabagged by Google with 4.2 ...
A giant disappointment..
I wonder which person said "you can push it now"..
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fushla said:
I may sound offensive, but I feel teabagged by Google with 4.2 ...
A giant disappointment..
I wonder which person said "you can push it now"..
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Random reboots have been happening since android 1.0 , I know
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Random reboots have been happening since android 1.0 , I know
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Alas, not with the frequency and relative consistency that's been seen with 4.2. The only workarounds for the bug that el Goog inadvertently introduced is to either revert back to 4.1.x or to disable a core functionality of the operating system.
The bug gives the os the overall feeling of beta software, although it is indeed plausible that it did not rear its head during internal testing. It was only after HD Widgets received widespread blame for the reboots that it was looked into and confirmed to be a problem caused by the os itself.
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Oh Lord I need to take a deep breath before typing...
So, I never had such problems since froyo until now, with 4.2...
And I do not understand people that say, "oh well, unlock, root, install this ROM, that kernel, download 50 apps to improve your system and to decrease a few problems".
My point is, an OS should be solid. Without having to do a lot of hacking to get it working properly. And it was, until 4.2 ..
I threw Google more than 900€ into their throat.
And all I want is to have a solid system, with at least less flaws that it has now. Everything was fine, and I do understand when apps cause problems, or if android has a few flaws, that's totally okay and understandable. But this? This is pure sh*t.
And it's screwed from Google to let us wait so long for a fix.
I mean we'll see a fix maybe in may, that's it.
And yes, I know this is a hacking forum. And yes I do know that these are nexus devices. But I never heard of a "oh well, you found bugs? Then gtfo and search fixes in xda and other forums" OS.
I don't want to be rude, I may sound so, but I feel like no one understands me. I think people are happy to be abused.
Yes, I don't have 0 problems with rooting etc. I'm pretty familiar with this since 3 years. But I honestly, especially the nexus 7, which is for entertaining purpose, shouldn't require to let xda devs erase the problems.
And yes, Google wants to create normal phones and tablets. Not for devs only anymore. So I don't understand them.
I'm pissed with 4.2, and disappointed.
But I'll stay with android, and just hope that Google doesn't screw up the next update, with a size of 1mb which fixes just the Bluetooth bug...
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I'll recommend Google to make a "Dev party" and hire those wonderful devs here in xda..
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, I will try turning off my "location services" and see if that will work. I hope Google fixes this bluetooth bug soon I really want to start using my wii-mote for my games.
After buying a new Nexus 7 32GB tablet and experiencing the random reboots I too was feeling let down. I had begun searching and researching for answers and fixes but Google seems to be hiding and remaining mum to the public on this. It seems to be kept low key and not advertised in the media much compared to so many actual users reporting the rebooting issues on all nexus devices.
Anyway, in my analysis thus far of the cause of the reboots (from viewing my own devices debug crash logs) it seems that the random resets and rebooting issues are caused by incompatible apps. That is apps that were developed and designed under older previous versions of Android OS that are not quite 100% running correctly on the latest Android OS' v4.2.x. When the app happens to reach a point where it passes an argument (variable) in the wrong way or wrong place, then the OS errors out, crashes and reboots itself to clear things up. This in itself is a flaw in the Android OS design where it should have caught the error condition and handled it gracefully instead of crashing the entire OS and rebooting. Thus, Google developers must fix the spots in the OS where these error conditions are occurring and wrap them in a java try{} catch{} block to catch the error and terminate the offending app cleanly rather than passing the error all the way up the chain to the critical OS error handlers that will reboot the system,.
I have noticed that a hacked winamp pro app was causing random reboots on my Nexus 7 tablet. I have removed that app now and will see what other apps might show up in the error logs if I still get random reboots. My advise based on what I found out so far, is to try removing apps until you find out which apps were causing your reboots. It can be any old app, so we all have to isolate which old apps are not behaving well on new v4.2.x OS.
Update: I also posted more updated info of my findings in the Nexus 10 forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496&page=23
Where I suggest an idea to Google dev team how to fix this random reboots issue.
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This is another thing.. In the play store, there's like 10 apps which actually are really build for and updated to 4.2.. I even think a lot of devs still build on gingerbread ^^
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Infobits said:
After buying a new Nexus 7 32GB tablet and experiencing the random reboots I too was feeling let down. I had begun searching and researching for answers and fixes but Google seems to be hiding and remaining mum to the public on this. It seems to be kept low key and not advertised in the media much compared to so many actual users reporting the rebooting issues on all nexus devices.
Anyway, in my analysis thus far of the cause of the reboots (from viewing my own devices debug crash logs) it seems that the random resets and rebooting issues are caused by incompatible apps. That is apps that were developed and designed under older previous versions of Android OS that are not quite 100% running correctly on the latest Android OS' v4.2.x. When the app happens to reach a point where it passes an argument (variable) in the wrong way or wrong place, then the OS errors out, crashes and reboots itself to clear things up. This in itself is a flaw in the Android OS design where it should have caught the error condition and handled it gracefully instead of crashing the entire OS and rebooting. Thus, Google developers must fix the spots in the OS where these error conditions are occurring and wrap them in a java try{} catch{} block to catch the error and terminate the offending app cleanly rather than passing the error all the way up the chain to the critical OS error handlers that will reboot the system,.
I have noticed that a hacked winamp pro app was causing random reboots on my Nexus 7 tablet. I have removed that app now and will see what other apps might show up in the error logs if I still get random reboots. My advise based on what I found out so far, is to try removing apps until you find out which apps were causing your reboots. It can be any old app, so we all have to isolate which old apps are not behaving well on new v4.2.x OS.
Update: I also posted more updated info of my findings in the Nexus 10 forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496&page=23
Where I suggest an idea to Google dev team how to fix this random reboots issue.
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It's happening to me when I launch the facebook app...even if I try to uninstall it, same song...
Really annoying, everything was all good yesterday though, baffled...
Up anyone? Still Facebook app tahat causes the crash...
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Up anyone? Still Facebook app tahat causes the crash...
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I had this problem too, but it stopped when I updated to 4.2.2
Did you try updating yet?
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Nope I didn't, I didn't root my tablet in order to do so, I guess I should because when I go to the updates it said my system is up to date
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Alright, I am currently on my third Nexus 7 and getting a little frustrated. I really love this device and would love to customize it the way I want but I hold back just in case I have to return another one. My question is, is anyone else experiencing problems with their tablet randomly freezing? I havent seen any forums discussing this particular problem. I have a hunch it could be the Facebook app that is causing this but that is just a theory. Below is a video of said freezing problems. Sorry for the quality; it was late, i was drinking and enjoying Netflix.
Not that I've heard of, but a quick forum search would easily confirm or deny this.
Edit reason: added detail.
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I have searched the forums as I mentioned above yet I could not locate a topic with my particular problem
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If your anything like me I'm constantly force stopping apps because why should they still be running of I'm not using it, right? Well I was having the same issue as you. Freezing and studdering on a quad core CPU. Mainly it was freezing in the settings menu. So I stopped force closing all these apps I usually do and the freezing stopped. I'm on about a week in with my 3rd nexus 7 and not one freeze. So if you do do as I do try just letting the apps be and "kill" them instead.
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If your anything like me I'm constantly force stopping apps because why should they still be running of I'm not using it, right? Well I was having the same issue as you. Freezing and studdering on a quad core CPU. Mainly it was freezing in the settings menu. So I stopped force closing all these apps I usually do and the freezing stopped. I'm on about a week in with my 3rd nexus 7 and not one freeze. So if you do do as I do try just letting the apps be and "kill" them instead.
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The way android is designed, apps are supposed to run in the background. Your not supposed to have a lot of free ram. 100 mb of free ram is the same as 5 mb... If it's free ram it isn't doing anything but being wasted just sitting there. Task killers are useless since eclair 2.1.the reason apps run the in the background is so you can open an app where you last left off. Among lots of other reasons. Let android manage the tasks it's really good at it.
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I've had a few freezing issues on my nexus 7. I've only had it a couple of days. It becomes completely unresponsive for minutes and never recovers. I have to hold down the power button until it shuts off (20 seconds maybe).
I've had a number of other quirks that really show (to me) that you get what you pay for. Its a cheap tablet with a top end CPU/GPU, but that's about it.
Not sure what my next step is, but I doubt I would be happy with the shortcomings of the Nexus 7 even if I had a perfect device. I think I just like higher end devices is all, and I don't mind paying more for something that just works with no compromise.
Again just my opinion.
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No such problems here, but if I were you I would use the Linux command line commands : top, ps, free, df. With those you should be able to find out if an app or process is misbehaving. You need to install the terminalIDE app and read about those commands.
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Freezing issues
I just purchsed one... Used it for 2 days. After using for a while I consistantly had freezing, particularly when typing. I called it in for a RMA refund. Don't know what the issue is, but moving on to something more tried and true.
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Alright, I am currently on my third Nexus 7 and getting a little frustrated. I really love this device and would love to customize it the way I want but I hold back just in case I ha ve to return another one. My question is, is anyone else experiencing problems with their tablet randomly freezing? I havent seen any forums discussing this particular problem. I have a hunch it could be the Facebook app that is causing this but that is just a theory. Below is a video of said freezing problems. Sorry for the quality; it was late, i was drinking and enjoying Netflix.
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Freezing - yes now and then...
My Nexus 7 freezes occasionally. I have noticed that when it restarts there's a bunch of updates. Me thinks that maybe the CPU was busy doing updates while I was keying in / touching the screen etc and couldn't cope...but maybe not. These apps seem to update a lot, same goes for my notso :silly: smartphone.
Anybody else come back to your Nexus 7 that is actually completely off and requires a power button and volume down hold in order to restart? Also I find the Android OS is consuming much of the battery in some instances.
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Mine is shutting down randomly.
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Bought my N7 three days ago and it worked brilliantly after installing all my apps from the play store then I got the message to update the OS from 4.2 to 4.2.1 which I duly obliged. Thereafter it was a totally different device with crazy stuttering just swiping home screens and and solid freezes on chrome which was especially bad. I had to do at least half dozen soft re sets when everything ground to a halt and a factory wipe none of which helped. I spent this afternoon using the nexus toolkit to unlock+root my N7 and installed nightly CyanogenMod 10.1 with jb20121212 Gapps and individually reinstalled+tested every app from play store including Chrome. Its (thankfully) now buttery smooth again and I've not had any problems whatsoever in the past 8 hours of using it. This surprised me as CM10.1 is based on 4.2.1 and maybe suggests its a problem with the stock Gapps included in the OTA?
I love android but Google are releasing these updates before they're ready and it makes the OS look unreliable in the eyes of the average consumer who has no interest in rooting and flashing roms.
32Gig Nexus 7+CM10.1
Galaxy Nexus gsm+AOSP R8+Franco kernal
belgian pie said:
Mine is shutting down randomly.
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I bought my wife a first generation Nexus 7 about 2 years ago and everything was fine with the tablet and is now updated with stock 4.4.4. Recently she started noticing that it would freeze for no reason and finally it got to the point where it would freeze very soon after it was booted up. I cleaned the cache and factory reset but the problem persisted. Obviously the unit is out of warranty but I called Asus to see if they could offer any advice. The only answers I got was that they couldn't do anything and it sounded like there was a problem with the motherboard. They also told me I could sent the tablet in for repairs but it would probably cost around $200! After laughing out loud at this ridiculous amount I told them I'd just go buy a Samsung Tab 4 for my wife and forget the Nexus. I bought the 8 inch Tab 4 and my wife is happy with the functioning of the product. BUT, I decided to give the Nexus 7 another chance at life so I utilized the Nexus Root Toolkit and I kept the stock 4.4.4 ROM instead of going the custom ROM route. I am pleased to report that there was NO motherboard problem and this tablet is working great so I am now the proud owner of the Nexus 7.
3year later. Still the same on 5.0.2
I really want to break this tablet on someones head who made it.
After 5.02 ...
It slowed down substantially. I did the "clear cache" which helped a little. It's so slow web browsing that I may as well not even try ... often 15 seconds to a minute to respond to a link click.
SO ... use it mostly for the Kindle app. I don't think it is the app fault, but when it locks up now, I see nothing on the screen; finally determined that it was in the process of downloading an update to some app or another, and the downloading locks the system if the kindle app is on the screen ... and seems to be a major slowdown other times.
Maybe there will be a 5.03 getting the performance back to KitKat levels.
Anyone else experiencing this? In the 24 hours I've been using my nexus 10, this has happened at least 10 times. All of a sudden the device becomes unresponsiv, the screen dims until it turns off, and the only way to get the device back on is holding down the power key multiple times until it boots back up. Needless to say, quite frustrating. Otherwise, love this device.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Not quite sure how one loves a device that forces you to reboot ten times in the last 24 hrs. It's like buying a new Honda and loving it even though it stalls ten times a day.
Too many people apparently buy their device to adoringly stare at like a trophy or a collectors item than actually use.
Those all seem like pretty legitimate apps to me. This would suck but I would suggest deleting one app and using the tablet till it happens then rinse repeat till you find the offending program.
Try the secret magic spell: a full wipe
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Add me to the list of people with random freezes and reboots. It's happened to me 3 times since I've gotten the tablet a few days ago, and I was using a different app each time. I suspect it's an OS bug rather than an app that's causing it. It's a little disheartening that Google let their new flagship 10" device get released with such a bug. Hopefully they release an OTA update sooner rather than later.
For the record, I rooted using the flashable CWM SuperSU file - I did not use the toolkit.
I have had my 16gb 10 now for almost a week - currently stock and non rooted. No problems whatsoever and I have been working it pretty hard.
Mine has frozen 2-3 times in the past few days. No idea why either. Audio continues to play, and the device responds to button use, but the display stops altogether.
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I got mine like a week ago and it's been frustrating. I debated whether to return it or not. I really like the Nexus 10 but this has been really inconvenient. Does CM10.1 have the issue coz I am planning on rooting and flashing CM10.1 if it resolves the issue. Just trying to get an input.
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I got mine like a week ago and it's been frustrating. I debated whether to return it or not. I really like the Nexus 10 but this has been really inconvenient. Does CM10.1 have the issue coz I am planning on rooting and flashing CM10.1 if it resolves the issue. Just trying to get an input.
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In another thread someone said it slowed the issue but didn't stop it.
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Thanks man, now I'm debating if I should just get the transformer infinity. I really don't need root that much because I only use my tablet for school...
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Happened to me several times as well. Last time the screen went black (not off) and the tablet was extremely hot, to the point of burning my hand when I touched it! Seems it was stuck that way for several hours and didn't reboot itself.
I've been having random rebooting and freezes since getting this tablet i've replaced it three times already so i'm tired of calling google about it don't even think they have a solution because we've been waiting since November for them to fix this problem so i decide to turn off location and took HD widgets out and so far my tablet has not frozen or rebooted in two weeks it been working really well hope it continues to perform this way.
Chrome has major stability issues as far as I can tell. It crashes very frequently and causes a complete system lock-up when it does. I've resorted to Firefox. To me, this is absurd on a core first party app. Google: get your act together on Chrome.
I recently noticed this issue and have been reading what a lot of others here have had to say and so far it seems to be related to wifi. I would bet it's a software / kernel / driver issue because others have reported not having the problem before the latest update.
If I think about it, I probably had the lockup/reboot happen once before now and I can't really tell you what I was doing at the time. But I thought nothing of it. I have however found a way to force it to happen. All it takes is a large download (1gig'ish) in uTorrent, the download works fine for about 10 minutes and then the tablet either just restarts, or it first becomes unresponsive to input (screen or buttons) but is still functioning, followed by a hard lock up that can only be fixed with a forced power off.
It may be a buffer issue, or memory leak, I've been able to prolong the lockup by throttling the uTorrent download speed and minimizing the number of active apps running. As suggested in other threads I've disabled location discovery and it may have bought me a little more time but if so it's not much. I can't tell if it's because of the amount of constant data flow coming in, or the number of active connections to different seeders, or more likely a combination of the 2. I can also say that if I attempt to browse the web with either chrome or Dolphin while downloading in uTorrent the freeze or reset happens much quicker.
So for now I'm hoping that in the next update they resolve the issue and will just use my pc for torrent downloading.
T.D.K,
It may help Google resolve this issue if you reported your obvervations in this bug report thread:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39879
I think the wording you used in your post would be sufficent. Nothing helps identify where a bug is more than a repeatable instance of the issue.
Turning off the location services and uninstalling HD widgets sorta worked for me... I still get random reboots though but mostly when I'm using Chrome. Google should have just left the stock android browser and made Chrome optional.
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T.D.K,
It may help Google resolve this issue if you reported your obvervations in this bug report thread:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39879
I think the wording you used in your post would be sufficent. Nothing helps identify where a bug is more than a repeatable instance of the issue.
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Thanks, ya that had crossed my mind but wasn't sure which defect to post it to so thanks for the link.
HELP!!
I am experiencing the same problem.
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T.D.K,
It may help Google resolve this issue if you reported your obvervations in this bug report thread:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39879
I think the wording you used in your post would be sufficent. Nothing helps identify where a bug is more than a repeatable instance of the issue.
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Nope, the problem was submitted to Google months ago and is listed to only receive medium priority. A total system failure that affects every single Nexus device is only given medium priority. Makes me ponder what in glory be would be considered high priority. Maybe if the tablet reached out and kicked you in the balls whenever you looked away from it
I am fed up with this thing. I have so many issues with it, I have tried a lot of difference ROMs and get the same crap with all of them. The most annoying things are that it constantly reboots and WiFi never stays connected for more than an hour at a time. I don't even trust this tablet for any word processing or anything important. What the hell am I supposed to do with it. I am so disappointed in this tablet. I've had it since Christmas and whilw the build is great and the screen is awesome, the WiFi and the random reboots are just rediculous for a 400 dollar tablet. My HP touchpad was more reliable than this and it even had android ported to it, and this is a Nexus device that is supposed to be top of the line. Now my question is, is there a ROM out that there actually fixes the WiFi or am I going to have to sell this while its still worth money and pick up the next tablet that's going to be announced at I/O
I don't know what issues your having with the WiFi, I've seen 5ghz routers have issues.
As for the reboots I'm sure they will get worked out, I do agree they are annoying, but considered to other android tablets this one is by and far the best
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Juicy92 said:
I am fed up with this thing. I have so many issues with it, I have tried a lot of difference ROMs and get the same crap with all of them. The most annoying things are that it constantly reboots and WiFi never stays connected for more than an hour at a time. I don't even trust this tablet for any word processing or anything important. What the hell am I supposed to do with it. I am so disappointed in this tablet. I've had it since Christmas and whilw the build is great and the screen is awesome, the WiFi and the random reboots are just rediculous for a 400 dollar tablet. My HP touchpad was more reliable than this and it even had android ported to it, and this is a Nexus device that is supposed to be top of the line. Now my question is, is there a ROM out that there actually fixes the WiFi or am I going to have to sell this while its still worth money and pick up the next tablet that's going to be announced at I/O
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Maybe give it a last chance, install KTManta kernel, I have zero random reboot since I install this kernel. Didn't notice any WiFi problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015874
Thanks. I'm throwing the aokp 4.22 ROM on when in get home and I'll try that kernel. I appreciate it. As for 5ghz router I'm not sure, but it drops at my home, work and my school.
Bigxie or mrrobinsons aokp pub builds are good, no reboots or anything. Kts kernel is amazing has newest wifi drivers from google and a color tweak. This tablet has been amazing for me
xda hd - nexus 10 - KT infused Carbons - booooom!
So far so good on 4.22 aokp and ktskernel. I looked at my battery usage today and I didn't see any time with WiFi off and no reboots. Granted I used it for only about an hour before it slept all night but still. 10 hours with no drops is a great improvement. Thanks guys for giving Mr faith in this device. I was about to give up on it lol.
Glad it got fixed for you. This devices issues arent the device really its been with android 4.2.x from google.
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You should return this device. You keeping this device when it's this faulty is like rewarding Google and Samsung for making a defect product. I love Android, but I took my N10 back and got an iPad 4 and it's functionally the same as the N10 and, here's the most important part, not defective. If you really love Android, you'll take this tablet back and get something else and vote with your money.
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You should return this device. You keeping this device when it's this faulty is like rewarding Google and Samsung for making a defect product. I love Android, but I took my N10 back and got an iPad 4 and it's functionally the same as the N10 and, here's the most important part, not defective. If you really love Android, you'll take this tablet back and get something else and vote with your money.
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Your comment completely contradicts your sig lol.. Also in my mind the nexus 10 has much more functionality than ipad... Hdmi out for one... Also I don't have a PC so I'd be SOL with an ipad having to connect to iTunes to load music... No true jailbreak available with ipad 4 yet which is absolutely necessary for me with any iDevice... Just saying not same functionality just different functionality
Its not the Nexus 10 thats defective. Its bugs in android 4.2. Read the thread. If the device itself was faulty his problems wouldn't get fixed with a rom and he has stated all his problems are now solved.
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iamikon said:
Its not the Nexus 10 thats defective. Its bugs in android 4.2. Read the thread. If the device itself was faulty his problems wouldn't get fixed with a rom and he has stated all his problems are now solved.
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There is no definite blame on the issues. If it was bugs with 4.2, then I wouldn't have a 100% stable WiFi connection at all times and would be having random reboots (my WiFI connection is 100% stable from what I've seen, and I can't recall any random reboots on 4.2, and very few prior to it). This was with stock also.
I'll either say it's an issue with some 3rd-party app(s), or hardware.
The hardware is not at fault if his connection works perfectly now is all im saying. Faulty wifi card would be faulty no matter what. Roms dont make hardware work better i never had random reboots or wifi issues either so i dont know but i know others' issues were solved by switching. Apps? Yeah could be.
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the_boo said:
Your comment completely contradicts your sig lol.. Also in my mind the nexus 10 has much more functionality than ipad... Hdmi out for one... Also I don't have a PC so I'd be SOL with an ipad having to connect to iTunes to load music... No true jailbreak available with ipad 4 yet which is absolutely necessary for me with any iDevice... Just saying not same functionality just different functionality
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How does having an Android blog contradict Google making a defective Android product (this was absolutely the case with my N10). It's like saying because I like hamburgers that I should love eating a ****ty hamburger. Functionally, you can do the same stuff with both of these tablets. That's not really the issue at hand though.
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iamikon said:
Its not the Nexus 10 thats defective. Its bugs in android 4.2. Read the thread. If the device itself was faulty his problems wouldn't get fixed with a rom and he has stated all his problems are now solved.
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There's a part of me that believes this, but I've never had this issue on my Galaxy Nexus that runs the exact same software.
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There is no definite blame on the issues. If it was bugs with 4.2, then I wouldn't have a 100% stable WiFi connection at all times and would be having random reboots (my WiFI connection is 100% stable from what I've seen, and I can't recall any random reboots on 4.2, and very few prior to it). This was with stock also.
I'll either say it's an issue with some 3rd-party app(s), or hardware.
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There's just so many factors that no one is talking about or thinking about:
-What if there are problems with wifi drivers/subsystem, then everyone's different access points are going to give different results
-What if there is a difference between starting with 4.2.2 as opposed to going to it from OTA
-What if there is a physical problem that only happens if you hold it a certain way
-What if there is a problem that manifests its self differently depending on peoples charge habbits
-What if letting the screen sleep is different than pushing the power button to sleep it
-What if there is a DRM issue that is dependent upon certain titles in a persons Play library
-What if there is a GPS issue that is caused by certain towers
-What if Maps has a flaw that loads only when you are physically close to a certain area
-What is the technical definition of "crash" when one of us end users reports "crash"
These are just some examples off the top of my head. I think the community has focused too much on "3rd party app" in general. Perhaps it would be worthwhile for everyone to get more oranized in the troubleshooting? I see a lot of complaining but not tons of people talking about their test actions. (Yes, this should be Googles job, but absent that...)
iamikon said:
Its not the Nexus 10 thats defective. Its bugs in android 4.2. Read the thread. If the device itself was faulty his problems wouldn't get fixed with a rom and he has stated all his problems are now solved.
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The big issue here is that there should not be so many problems with android 4.2, or if there were not for four months. I would have been fine with my nexus 10 if Google fixed the horrific stability issues within a month and a half but its been over four since I got my tablet.
I'm right there with you TC. This tablet blows to me. I don't care if iOS has less functionality, there were no random reboots, the color accuracy, brightness and contrast ratios were much better with zero backlight bleeding, blacks were much deeper and richer, twice the battery life, no slowdowns, no lag and had actual good accessory support.
I have tried just about every rom/kernel combination on here with no end to the problems. I've gotten it replaced three times. Terrible experience, and will likely not buy another Nexus device again.
I was in this expecting a comparable experience to the GSIII I had when I bought this tablet (I now use a Note 2) and I was utterly disappointed.
zmattmanz said:
There's a part of me that believes this, but I've never had this issue on my Galaxy Nexus that runs the exact same software.
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And honestly I'm not sure what is causing the issues. Some people have them and some don't. Most people a ROM/kernel fixes everything for a few it doesn't. As for people saying they've had three or four defective devices is pretty bullish. I just know how hardware works and if the hardware is bad it stays bad most likely you're right its not 4.2 per say but more likely the Google/Samsung blobs for the n10 which include display and wifi.
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Well I figured I'd come back here. I swapped ROMs for a 4.2.2 build as well as installing minimal apps for now and also installed the kts kernel. I have not had a reboot yet *fingers crossed*, but like I said I have not been using the tablet as intensively as before. The WiFi seems stronger as well. I think part of the problem is my home WiFi has its own issues, but it is discouraging when my phone is sitting next to me and has 3 bars and my tab is fighting for 2. Maybe the WiFi adapter in the n10 is just inferior to that of the galaxy s3 and I am expecting too much.
All in all though, anyone having reboot issues, definitely get on a 4.2.2 build and flash the kts kernel. Thanks everyone for the help!
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Well I figured I'd come back here. I swapped ROMs for a 4.2.2 build as well as installing minimal apps for now and also installed the kts kernel. I have not had a reboot yet *fingers crossed*, but like I said I have not been using the tablet as intensively as before. The WiFi seems stronger as well. I think part of the problem is my home WiFi has its own issues, but it is discouraging when my phone is sitting next to me and has 3 bars and my tab is fighting for 2. Maybe the WiFi adapter in the n10 is just inferior to that of the galaxy s3 and I am expecting too much.
All in all though, anyone having reboot issues, definitely get on a 4.2.2 build and flash the kts kernel. Thanks everyone for the help!
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I would change router settings if you haven't already, more specifically the channel. Might have an effect on signal. The WiFi signal on my N10 is pretty awesome, compared to other devices I have anyway.
espionage724 said:
I would change router settings if you haven't already, more specifically the channel. Might have an effect on signal. The WiFi signal on my N10 is pretty awesome, compared to other devices I have anyway.
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Yeah, I will say, from all the problems I have on the Nexus 10, wifi is not one of them. It connects and stays connected even better than my iPad 3 did. Its the stability things that bother me so much.
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I would change router settings if you haven't already, more specifically the channel. Might have an effect on signal. The WiFi signal on my N10 is pretty awesome, compared to other devices I have anyway.
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+1
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I've heard the device will do things like restart randomly, and have some other misc issues - is that fixed with later releases of it or is it still an issue?
I never got any og those problems with my N10, maybe others do i dont know. Mine runs very well and the best tablet i have used
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I've heard the device will do things like restart randomly, and have some other misc issues - is that fixed with later releases of it or is it still an issue?
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My N10 suffers from random reboots and memory leaks every couple days. But after flashing a 4.3 rom those problems almost dissapear with the updated Mali drivers from Samsung
So right now its a no issue, at least for me
Had screen flicker, but went away with the kit kat update (fingers still crossed).
Only had one reboot and that was on 4.3.
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I've been using mine for almost over a week. It came with 4.2.x and asked for update to 4.3 right after unpacking. Never had a single problem for a week with 4.3 and now using 4.4 which i manually updated. Still had no problems.
No problems here too..
The reason that you maybe find much 'complains' is because people with a problem are searching for a fix. But hou never hear a word from people without problems.. Well until now
I really love this tablet. Fast and oh te screen.
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On 4.3 I got
- screen flickering
- random reboots after heavy apps (like reading big sized PDF in acrobat)
After 4.4 I haven't seen those issues yet.
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I've not had too many issues with my N10. I've mostly been running CM10.2 on it, but I've put KitKat on it now and it's purring like a happy cat.
Solid with 4.4 so far.
4.3 eliminated a number of the screen issues with the updated Mali drivers. Looks like they were updated further under 4.4 as the Google site shows new binaries for 4.4.
I'm running stock 4.4 and have 0 issues. Didn't with 4.3 either. Can't say for anything earlier, I'm newer to the device.
Still running 4.3 here, but mine reboots randomly a couple of times a week.
Waiting to see what 4.4 will do.
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I had massive problems before, but it works like a charm since 4.4!
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4.4 seems so far (over two days uptime with Chrome installed!) to have fixed the massive memory leaks on this device.. 4.3 never seemed to release memory correctly and SystemUI would bloat to 200MB and completely implode on itself. Now it seems memory is releasing fine, and SystemUI is fluctuating in memory usage like it should be now..
I was given an N10 for my bday back on Sept 30 and its gotten almost daily use. I can say with full confidence that I have experienced ZERO problems. No memory leaks (if its going on I cant tell...the performance is snappy as hell!) no light bleed and definitely no random reboots. I have thrown the most hardware intensive games at it and they all work better than I had hoped for. It does exactly what I want it to do when I want it to do it.
I've had it for about half a year and used daily and I've had one or two reboots during that time, quite long ago now, otherwise it's been perfectly smooth and had no issues.
The photo editor crashes while editing large images (probably runs out of memory), haven't tried it on 4.4. But that's really not a issue as I normally use Photoshop on my pc anyway.
So far I never had any other issues at all, no random reboots or anything else. 4.3 was running smoothly as is 4.4 which I have now. The only modifications I have made are rooting it so I can use certain apps, and I didn't even have to reroot after the 4.4 ota.
tldr: mine works like a charm.
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Mine suffers extremely bad with memory leaks and random reboots when I have Location Services on. If I turn Location off, it doesn't reboot but after 30 hours or so, it slows to a complete crawl and redraws the launcher every 2 seconds thus making me have to manually reboot it. It's usable and I still use it every day, but I'm definitely not ecstatic with it and I'll likely replace it as soon as another tablet running stock Android and with a beautiful screen comes along. Hopefully I'm not waiting too long.
I get a reboot on average every 3 days. Usually while in the browser.. Screen will just flash white and reboots.. Never slows down before had.. No sign of trouble either..
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I haven't had any reboots from the browser yet, but I did get a hard freeze while using the HBO app yesterday. That's actually new, never saw it before the update so hopefully it's just a one time thing.
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I've heard the device will do things like restart randomly, and have some other misc issues - is that fixed with later releases of it or is it still an issue?
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I'm having problems with any rom later than 4.2. The 4.3 roms cause random reboots, and 4.4 will not install.... Something about some E: error.
I've gotten into the habit of wiping for factory reset before every flash.....so I have no idea why the problem with flashing the 4.4 roms. :silly:
I have been using Android N preview 3 since it was released. It seems sometimes that my Nexus 6p will slowdown and lag. As well as random reboot. It almost seems like there is a memory leak of some sort. I find it start getting bad when using Chrome browser, which I am using the latest build of. But it could be something else. Anyone else having similar problems?
I've had it pretty bad when I leave Snapchat running in the background
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ern88 said:
I have been using Android N preview 3 since it was released. It seems sometimes that my Nexus 6p will slowdown and lag. As well as random reboot. It almost seems like there is a memory leak of some sort. I find it start getting bad when using Chrome browser, which I am using the latest build of. But it could be something else. Anyone else having similar problems?
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As N is in beta and for development purposes only you should expect it to not work right. Issue a bug report. It's what Google wants you to do. It's the whole purpose of the beta process.
I realize that and I have provided feedback to Google about it. I was also asking the community if they had related issues as I am.
Over the past two days, I started getting some random reboots. Clearing the cache in recovery seems to have addressed the issue for me.
It's worth a try just to see if the random reboots disappear.
Thank you I just tried it. Forgot about that trick lol