[Q] Weird HDD troubles (data shows as unallocated :( ) - Windows 8 General

Ok so you guys are some of the most tech savvy peoples I've ever come across so I figured XDA was the best place to get help for this. It's a weird situation, so I'll give as much info/detail as I can. I apologize if this is posted in the wrong forum, but I am running windows 8
I have a dual 2.5" enclosure that I've been using to store all my music, movies, games, software, webpages/flash creations, etc. It contained 2 identical 750gb western digital drives.
The harddrive enclosure:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0030MHEGS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
The harddrives:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003D18DM0/ref=wms_ohs_product
Ok, so on the back of the enclosure there's 3 settings for how to use the discs and I had the "Just a bunch of Disks (JBOD)" setting. So when plugged into my pc, it showed up a single 1.5tb drive (which was almost full of data).
Well my brother's laptop died and he needed to get stuff off of his harddrive stat, so I figured I could use this enclosure to help him out. But upon inserting his 2 disk drives into the enclosure, it showed them as unallocated (in the MS Management Console). It also showed them as a single drive at 1tb (his were two 500gb drives). Not wanting to risk erasing any of his data, I told him to go buy an enclosure and try doing it himself. So I popped my harddrives back in, plugged it back into my desktop and it was all great and dandy, and it showed up in my computer as Local Disk H which is what it's supposed to be...until I rebooted my comp to do some updates.
Since that reboot it's been showing up in MMC as an unallocated 1.5tb drive. No matter how many times I unplugged and replugged it back in, reinserted the harddrives, switched the harddrive order (since they're identical I had forgotten which one went in which slot, if that even makes a difference) and tried rebooting my comp and running Ubuntu from a pen drive to see if that would help. I tried my brothers new laptop, my laptop, to see if any of them would recognize the drives. None of that changed the fact that it was showing up as a single 1.5tb unallocated drive in MMC. So I left it alone, waited until I got to my apartment (several days later) and thought I would try a different enclosure that I had in the hopes that I could recover some data.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JFU16E/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i02
So where I stand at right now, is it's showing up as 2 unallocated drives at 750gb each (698gb in actuality). And this is where I'm stuck cause i really don't want to lose all that data. Especially my wepages that I had created. I'm not a web designer full time, but those webpages were made in case I wanted to use it in my portfolio, should I become a web designer. 1 of the websites I made represented a few months worth of work.
So if anyone can help, have any ideas on what I should do, I'd <3 you forever.
Thanks in advance for any help I get.

Professional data recovery. It's expensive, but it's the only thing I can think of that is both likely to work and doesn't risk further damage. You could also try, from any Linux distro, using the partition management tools (parted, the command-line tool, is more powerful than the graphical ones) to scan the disks for partitions and try to recover them... but this is potentially harmful to your data (not the scan, since that's read-only, but the attempted recovery for sure) and not guaranteed to work (although it will probably tell you if it found anything after the scan).
Also, I hope we have learned an important lesson about backups. Oh, and while JBOD may improve the chance of recovering your data, it's an odd choice to use from a performance standpoint...

Suggest searching on "jbod data recovery" and "raid recovery" for applicable software--or failing that, services, depending on how valuable your data is for you. The good news is that the data is still all there; you just have to find the right software. You'd need a regular HDD USB enclosure, and recovery will be per-drive, not both at the same time. You'll also need another drive to dump the recovered data onto.
An example (not an endorsement): http://diskinternals.com/raid-recovery
Also suggest backing up your data, and stop using non-standard drive allocation schemes (eg JBOD) that heightens the risk for data failure, and lowers the chance of recovery.
>I hope we have learned an important lesson about backups
People almost always learn after the fact. Myself included.
>JBOD may improve the chance of recovering your data, it's an odd choice to use from a performance standpoint
AFAIK, JBOD typically concatenates the drives. People opt for it because of the convenience (striping would require matching drives), as these low-end units have low throughput anyway.

Right... I meant an odd choice since the drives were identical anyhow.
Another option, instead of using a typical enclosure (or even any enclosure at all, if you can supply the power) is to connect the drives directly to the PC using (e)SATA ports. While that shouldn't make any difference, it does remove a level of indirection if you were using USB connections before. I definitely do not recommend continuing to use the dual-bay enclosure that may have been responsible for the problems.

From post, OP is using a laptop, and eSATA port doesn't provide power.

Power for eSATA is pretty easy to come by - if necessary, just using the power connection on an enclosure - butyou can buy the power supply adapters for pretty cheap. Using a signle-drive eSATA enclosure would also probably work as it *should* just be mapping the internal pins through to the external port.

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my DREAMY G1 can't ROOT!! weak SD & usb, bluetooth etc*&$^%$

Thanks for Looking, really desperate.
I can’t root this ^#%@ G1. Basically I can not get nesscarry rooting files flashed on my G1. I guess the short question is why does my G1 not accept files from my win7 box. Not through the preferred SD card method but, not through wifi, Bluetooth, ADB. Droid explorer, etc, etc. I’ve tried everything , every method …nill.
BUT, otherwise the phone works fine. Internet, phone, G1 crapware, etc. You can assume I’ve tried every thing I can find on the web. But if you want to read details go please do
BACKROUND:
After many, many attempts with every recipe and every set of ROMs around, I ‘ve narrowed it down to it not liking the taste of my SD cards…most of the time, For some reason I can do the initial rc29 downgrade but not much more.
1) Connecting with USB cable to PC. android shows up in “devices and printers” and so does its “removable disk (after mounted from phone). However, double clicking, rt click trying to for mat it just gives errors
2) Putting in SD card while up and running returns “unrecognizable media”
3) Now, I can format SD (yes fat 32) on the PC card reader, add files, whatever, put card in phone and turn it on , at least I don’t get an error, but I get no better acces to card.
I was just about to physically take the phone apart and see if there was some flotsam, corrosion, a piese of bacon making the sd connection physically corrupting the physical conectoion. THAN I remembered blue toothe behaves the same way and WI FII won’t connect at all. Seem that indicates something systremic…Radio??
Help Please?!?!
PK
BTW:
ATEMPS AT REMIDIATION:
5 different New SD cards three, 4 gig, one 6 gig, one 2 gig different meg cards
SD reformats both quick and full adnaseum
4 different USB cords including brand new top of the line.
Re set to RC29 time and time again (remarkably it is apparently reading the flash drive
try going from a non windows 7 box? a friend with vista or family member?
that way you can tell if its windows 7 or not
Ekostons, Thanks for the reply,
I considered that, my son has an xp3 laptop. I think I will give it a try.
There were some gripes and moans about win'7 USB drivers, tried the fix, loading vista usb drivers... fat Chance, dunno what they were thinkn', didn't even resemble win7 drivers.
Hard to imagine why Josegh Smoh can't plug in his new g1 to a Win7 box and share his grand canyon memories with loved ones, but...Your advice makes scence as far as my "systemic prolem" theroy goes. Worth a whirl.
Thanks again, I have a little hope, at least another angle....
Pk
If you have Windows 7 Enterprise or higher and you have a processor that supports virtualization you may use Window 7's XP Mode and give that a shot. Its always good to have a spare comp or laptop running XP when you dabble in these things. If its not beyond your scope I've also seen a few tuts on how to get everything up and running on various *nix distros. Good luck!

[Q] Apoligies if repeat Q: will a usb hub work with Nexus 7?

I had read in some other random forum that if you have rooted your Nexus 7, which I have, and run app "StickMount" you can connect a usb thumb drive to the nexus and give yourself more space, even install apps to the USB drive to run from. I am wondering (and am going to test it out later this evening) if anyone has tried connecting a USB hub, so that you can have say 4 ports to add different drives or game controllers/whatever else and android will recognize the different devices?
As a realist, I'm just hoping the single USB stick connection will actually work as a storage expansion area, as we all know there is no micro SD slot. I actually have an old college friend I keep in touch with who works on the Nexus development team, who had no good answer as to why micro SD was removed, as well as the ability on devices with a micro SD no longer allow the installation of apps to the sd card. I was pretty convinced it was simply because the OEMs decided to name their internal memory /mnt/sdcard which used to be the external card's mount point name, but I'm told it is more complicated than that. Am I the only one that really feels like no apps to the SD in ICS or jellybean, is quite a downgrade? I understand we can use the "cloud" now ... but that's simply not the same, and surely not as fast as a local drive (maybe?) I then proceeded to yell at him to not let the group of stupid consumers influence the great features that the half-brained+ consumers know how to properly use, to no avail. Using the micro to full USB port to mount a thumb drive seemed to be the best way to add more storage locally. Thoughts? Thanks
- Herby
- Real-time embedded software developer going on 12 years, working in the satcom, medical device, aircraft display, and aerospace domains
NM - Just found app "USB Host controller" which does exactly what I asked Yayyyy!!
There are actually a whole slew of these that are even free, most require root however, which I recommend using the program with GUI interface developed specifically to unlock the bootloader, and then root the nexus 7. I think it was called Root_Toolbox or something like that. I am not at home or I would report back the official name. If anyone wants it just let me know. Thank you!
Herby6262 said:
I had read in some other random forum that if you have rooted your Nexus 7, which I have, and run app "StickMount" you can connect a usb thumb drive to the nexus and give yourself more space, even install apps to the USB drive to run from. I am wondering (and am going to test it out later this evening) if anyone has tried connecting a USB hub, so that you can have say 4 ports to add different drives or game controllers/whatever else and android will recognize the different devices?
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A hub works great. I've had 3 flash sticks mounted at once along with a mouse and everything has worked without a hitch.
The caveat here is to ensure you're not pulling too much current - the OTG max current source spec is alot less than the 500mA a normal USB PC host port is able to source.

please help, bios and windows doesn't recognize my hdd but it spins

Please help, my system was running just fine last evening and i shut it down. The next day when i started it, it showed me a message saying that reboot and select proper boot media. I thought it was problem with hdd, so i opened the case and tighten the power and data cable. I started my pc again and it showed the same message again. I tried to replace the data cable, but no success. I tried running the drive without data cable, it gave slight vibration that showed that drive was spinning and was fine. But the next moment when i restarted my machine, it took about 5 minutes to boot up and halted. I tried to run mini xp via hbcd,it didn't boot, so i removed the hdd, it boot up nicely and after connecting the hdd, it went into slow state. Seagate wizard showed no hdd. Please help, it contains lot of important data and is still under warranty
Hdd - Seagate barracuda 500gb ST500DM002
OS - Windows 7
BIOS - AMI bios (don't remember version)
CPU - AMD Sempron 145
RAM - 4 GB
vaibhavkandwal said:
Please help, my system was running just fine last evening and i shut it down. The next day when i started it, it showed me a message saying that reboot and select proper boot media. I thought it was problem with hdd, so i opened the case and tighten the power and data cable. I started my pc again and it showed the same message again. I tried to replace the data cable, but no success. I tried running the drive without data cable, it gave slight vibration that showed that drive was spinning and was fine. But the next moment when i restarted my machine, it took about 5 minutes to boot up and halted. I tried to run mini xp via hbcd,it didn't boot, so i removed the hdd, it boot up nicely and after connecting the hdd, it went into slow state. Seagate wizard showed no hdd. Please help, it contains lot of important data and is still under warranty
Hdd - Seagate barracuda 500gb ST500DM002
OS - Windows 7
BIOS - AMI bios (don't remember version)
CPU - AMD Sempron 145
RAM - 4 GB
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I'm really sorry friend but this doesn't sound good. The only suggestions that I can think of that might work is to try a different SATA port on your motherboard or a different computer all together (if possible). Have you checked the BIOS to see if it sees your hard drive. A slow boot up time has happened to me before on a failed SSD and I couldn't recover it.
I've heard of hard drive recovery services (like stores that recover HDDs) but I'm not sure how well they work and they may not be worth the money.
I do hope that either it starts magically working or you find that at the minimum you can get it working on another computer long enough to recover it.
Live boot linux on a usb or cd and see if it is recognized. If that does not work go online and find a hdd usb adapter and find a library or freind computer and see if it can recognized with the hdd usb adapter ( safer than directly plug into freinds mother board)
Other than that do u see any scorches pr burn marks any where on the hdd srry dude
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Check BIOS if it detects the HDD. If yes, you're still good. :fingers-crossed:

Working around dreadfully slow USB 2.0 performance

So let's say you just broke something and ended up having to wipe all the user data and reflash the system. You've got a string of nandroid backups on the phone, and lots of files and other data on the device, so it's really much easier to drop \sdcard and \data onto a flash drive via OTG because you can't just pull the microSD card out because I'm not sure what Product's (a.k.a. Google's Android Product Team) reasoning is other than to laugh at me.
So, one to three hours later you're reflashing the phone. It boots, lovely. Now, you plug in the same USB 3.0 key via a USB 3.1 connector and are copying ~100GB of files over at lovely sub-USB-2.0 speeds of around 8MB/s (thanks again, Product. Why you like to laugh at users to much?)
Does the phone support anything where you can realize better transfer speeds than this?

Connect Multiple external Hard Drives ?

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if we can connect multiple external HDD. I read that the shield tv can only recognize one connected at once?
I tried with xplore to connect 2 external HDD and it doesn't show my 2 HDD , only the last one connected. :/
Am i missing something?
Thank you.
As far as I know the Shield should be able to recognize multiple external drives (they are named and tagged uniquely). For curiosity sake; Are you using the 2017 version? Rooted? Are they both attached directly to the Shield or are you using a (powered) USB hub?
Radnu said:
As far as I know the Shield should be able to recognize multiple external drives (they are named and tagged uniquely). For curiosity sake; Are you using the 2017 version? Rooted? Are they both attached directly to the Shield or are you using a (powered) USB hub?
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Thanks for your answer !
Yes i'm using the 2017 pro version non rooted and both HDD are directly plugged into the shield (no hub) .
Do you use an other file manager to see two external drives connected at the same time? both HDDs work well with Xplore but only when one is connected.
Platinum1986 said:
Thanks for your answer !
Yes i'm using the 2017 pro version non rooted and both HDD are directly plugged into the shield (no hub) .
Do you use an other file manager to see two external drives connected at the same time? both HDDs work well with Xplore but only when one is connected.
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It looks like I have to get back at my previous statement. Turns out that what I thought was general Android-practice is actually a feature of the roms I use (on other devices). On top of that I guess my own current situation is slightly different than yours; while I do have both a thumbdrive and a HDD attached I have adopted the thumbdrive, so it's not counted as an external drive. If I open Xplore I can therefore see both loaded.
Since I feel a bit like an arse I did some digging to see if there is anything you could do to hook up both drives. Turns out there's more people that have run into this here including a very descriptive solution should you have 2 identical HDD's. Otherwise, below a list of possible solutions;
If you are rooted, or willing to do so.
There is an app called "StickMount" by Chainfire which basically allows you to hook up multiple external drives and even symlink them. The catch is; I am not able to test this since myself I'm not willing to root my Shield 2017 just yet.
If you aren't rooted.
There are a few things you could do.
1] The solution I went for myself; buy one big USB 3.0 drive (I went for a 5TB one) and transfer all your stuff.
2] You could choose to adopt one of the drives as internal storage. There are some glaring downsides to this though; you can no longer attach that drive to other devices, it will at first wipe the drive and if its not a fast HDD it is going to lag your Shield down. Also, since your Pro already *is* 500GB and you would basically swap that space for one of your HDDs you'd have to consider whether or not it is worth the effort.
3] A somewhat farfetched solution; should you happen to have a modem that supports hosting a HDD as as NAS, you could use that to hook it up remotely. It's not as fast, but technically it is a solution.

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