VOIP applications with the new N8013 4.1.2 ROM - Galaxy Note 10.1 General

Hi everyone,
I'm N8013 owner, recently upgraded to 4.1.2 N8013BMA3 .
After the upgrade, Mobile VOIP not working anymore. It cause the tablet to hang then not working at all , till I press power button for 8 seconds.
It was working flawlessly with N8010 LK9, N8013 LK8 .
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mohammedsarhan said:
Hi everyone,
I'm N8013 owner, recently upgraded to 4.1.2 N8013BMA3 .
After the upgrade, Mobile VOIP not working anymore. It cause the tablet to hang then not working at all , till I press power button for 8 seconds.
It was working flawlessly with N8010 LK9, N8013 LK8 .
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I use sipdroid and have not had any issues since upgrading to JB. If you look at customer comments on playstore, some are reporting problems when running JB.

Thanks.
But does Sipdroid support Lowrate voip accounts?
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mohammedsarhan said:
Thanks.
But does Sipdroid support Lowrate voip accounts?
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I'm not familiar with this particular VOIP service so I can't say. They do provide sip settings here http://www.lowratevoip.com/sip . You could try setting up sipdroid with those settings. You could also contact their customer service since their app is known to have issues with JB, maybe they can help you. Good luck.

MagicJack works great on my GT-N8013 with JB 4.1.2
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I use Grooveip and it works ok..

Thanks, but none of these are LOW RATE VOIP agents. They are useful for calling USA & CANADA
Im living in Italy
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mohammedsarhan said:
Thanks, but none of these are LOW RATE VOIP agents. They are useful for calling USA & CANADA
Im living in Italy
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I looked in one of the voip foruns that I read for info. Apparently, you can configure ATAs to use this service as well as other software, but you'll pay a higher rate. Their lower rate only applies to their app. I'd suggest that you try to contact their support staff. Issues with Jellybean have been reported on their Playstore page so maybe they can provide a solution. Here's the thread discussing their rates. http://forum.voxilla.com/threads/lowratevoip.14831/

Both grove ip and talkatone lock mine up. You have to use them twice in a row for it to happen

I had it installed on my SII running 4.1.2, and no issues at all.
However, I un installed mobile VOIP.
But today I got one hang up of the tablet.
Really I'm in love with this Firmware , and don't want to downgrade to LK8
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Using the MagicJack app and it works *better* on 4.1.2 than it did on 4.0.4 or 4.1.1

Also having problems with GrooVe IP on 4.1.2:
When I placed a call: When the call connects, no one can hear me and I can't hear them. When I exit the app, the tablet can freeze and I have to reboot. When it didn't freeze, my microphone was screwed up and I had to reboot.
When someone called me: it didn't realize the phone was ringing.
I'm using a google voice number.
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I just tried an app called Spare Phone. Same problems as with Groove IP.
I then installed the free Magic Jack app. I was able to make phone calls, but since it doesn't go through google voice, I couldn't receive them on my phone number.
Maybe it's a google voice problem?

Ooma HD and AT&T Call International both work...

Vincent9756 said:
Also having problems with GrooVe IP on 4.1.2:
When I placed a call: When the call connects, no one can hear me and I can't hear them. When I exit the app, the tablet can freeze and I have to reboot. When it didn't freeze, my microphone was screwed up and I had to reboot.
When someone called me: it didn't realize the phone was ringing.
I'm using a google voice number.
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I just tried an app called Spare Phone. Same problems as with Groove IP.
I then installed the free Magic Jack app. I was able to make phone calls, but since it doesn't go through google voice, I couldn't receive them on my phone number.
Maybe it's a google voice problem?
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I guess you need a MagicJack account/number to receive calls.
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Vincent9756 said:
Also having problems with GrooVe IP on 4.1.2:
When I placed a call: When the call connects, no one can hear me and I can't hear them. When I exit the app, the tablet can freeze and I have to reboot. When it didn't freeze, my microphone was screwed up and I had to reboot.
When someone called me: it didn't realize the phone was ringing.
I'm using a google voice number.
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I just tried an app called Spare Phone. Same problems as with Groove IP.
I then installed the free Magic Jack app. I was able to make phone calls, but since it doesn't go through google voice, I couldn't receive them on my phone number.
Maybe it's a google voice problem?
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It could be voice. It worked beautifully on 4.1.1 ... makes me sad in the pants. I love tapatalk. Ill try to uninstall and reinstall google voice with all new data and see if that helps
Update: well, no dice even with a new attached phone number and all new data with a fresh install. Even as we speak my heart is broken

I wrote to the Groove IP guys about the problem. This was my response:
"We don't have a Note 10.1, but we have tested with android 4.1.2. It sounds like something on the device isn't following the published android sdk. That's generally an issue in the rom, but sometimes we can work around those. It's possible the audio driver changed and maybe some different settings are required in the app. The best ones to start with would be Keep Screen Alive, Synchronize Voice, changing the mic buffer size, changing the mic source, or enabling WiFi tablet. I'd try those settings independently. Another thing to make sure would be the android advanced wifi settings. Make sure wifi optimization is off. And set wifi to stay connected always."
This is my first tablet and I know very little about Android. Does anyone think it's a ROM problem or could you suggest something for me to change?
All my other apps work fine. Until I run Groove IP, both my mic and speakers work fine; tablet does not hang or freeze. Before I upgraded I was on the samsung standard ROM using all default options/settings. My tablet worked great right out of the box. I just upgraded OTA when I was notified by samsung. With my first Groove IP problem, I uninstalled the app, rebooted the tablet and re-installed the app. No change. Still doesn't work.

TheWerewolf said:
Using the MagicJack app and it works *better* on 4.1.2 than it did on 4.0.4 or 4.1.1
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I love that app but it's running the same for me. Still need to FC it and its battery sucking capabilities remain the same. Hoping for an update!
Regards,

Vincent9756 said:
I wrote to the Groove IP guys about the problem. This was my response:
"We don't have a Note 10.1, but we have tested with android 4.1.2. It sounds like something on the device isn't following the published android sdk.
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The SGS3 and N2 are running the same SoC as the Note 10.1. I'd imagine Samsung reuses s/w components so that their common to more than one device. There are ten times more TW-equipped devices in the wild than AOSP. If Groove IP’s idea of testing is to throw it on AOSP and call it good they need to rethink their testing procedures. And you'd think if Samsung was using some drastically altered Wi-Fi stack that all VoIP apps would be affected, not just those we mentioned. So either there's something unique about the apps that don't work or the vendors of apps that do work are more diligent in their programming and testing to make sure their compatible with popular devices.

BarryH_GEG said:
The SGS3 and N2 are running the same SoC as the Note 10.1. I'd imagine Samsung reuses s/w components so that their common to more than one device. There are ten times more TW-equipped devices in the wild than AOSP. If Groove IP’s idea of testing is to throw it on AOSP and call it good they need to rethink their testing procedures. And you'd think if Samsung was using some drastically altered Wi-Fi stack that all VoIP apps would be affected, not just those we mentioned. So either there's something unique about the apps that don't work or the vendors of apps that do work are more diligent in their programming and testing to make sure their compatible with popular devices.
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Yeah! Magic Jack worked fine for making calls. It didn't screw up my microphone, the audio was also fine and my tablet didn't freeze. I just couldn't receive calls because it doesn't work with a Google Voice phone number.
After I use Groove IP, the system standard voice input method (dictation) doesn't work. When I tap the mic, a voice says "I didn't get that" without even giving me a chance to say anything.

Here's my latest response from the Groove IP guys:
"We are quite interested in trying to resolve the issue. If it's something we can work around we will do that. As I mentioned currently we don't have a Note 10.1 but we are looking at buying one. Until then if none of the suggestions worked I can give you a version with logging. Unfortunately to get the logs you'll need a PC with the android sdk. Logcat isn't available from the device itself any longer with jelly bean."
I can't help with the log thing. I'm old now. and I decided not to get another PC because the Note does everything I need. I posted this here in case anyone with an android SDK (or doesn't mind install one) is interested in helping them. Regardless, sounds like they'll be getting a Note and hopefully the app will get fixed in a few months.
Anyway, if you're having problems, you may want to let them know. The app may get fixed faster if more people send them an e-mail. You can send a message with your problems to [email protected].

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[Q] Calling from N7?

Hi, I know there are many Tablet SMS applications, but I want to know is there a way to make calls from your N7?
Preferably using my normal contract phone number, so people know its me.
Im sure I've seen it somewhere on the web on a video I saw, but havent a clue what it was called.
Im from the UK so no US only apps please.
Much appreciated.
You mean by Sim or by Wifi? If sim, impossible.
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You mean by Sim or by Wifi? If sim, impossible.
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No I mean a little bit like TabletTalk, where it connects to your phone for example.
I don't mind whether its VoIP or whatever, I just want to be able to make a call from my Nexus7, that uses my phones number.
IVE SEEN IT on a Video which makes it even more annoying.
Wilks3y said:
No I mean a little bit like TabletTalk, where it connects to your phone for example.
I don't mind whether its VoIP or whatever, I just want to be able to make a call from my Nexus7, that uses my phones number.
IVE SEEN IT on a Video which makes it even more annoying.
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Tablet talk will allow you to answer calls as well you just need a bluetooth headset connected to your actual phone, it works in the same sense as the sms you phone is still the one connecting you are just controlling your phone with the N7
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Tablet talk will allow you to answer calls as well you just need a bluetooth headset connected to your actual phone, it works in the same sense as the sms you phone is still the one connecting you are just controlling your phone with the N7
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Thanks for your reply mate,
On the Video I saw it was using some sort of VoIP and used the N7's mic, no bluetooth mic needed.
I know that the connection goes through the phone which is fine, as how else would it get the number etc, but I don't want to buy a bluetooth headset.
It may have been GrooveIP but I think thats US only any UK alternatives?
THANKS !
EDIT - It was GrooveIP, what is the difference between GrooveIP and tablet talk?
As tablet talk is made by an XDA user and would love to support them rather than a company.
I've used groove IP on my phone and it does work in Canada but the sound can be glitchy. You have to sign in through Google to set it up, haven't tried it on nexus though.
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Can any1 provide a UK alternate to Groove?
Why is it US only?
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You mean by Sim or by Wifi? If sim, impossible.
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It is possible to call from SIM if you have a N7 with 3G.
Some Internet providers have also an Internet+Voice option that you can enable. With a specific rom or application that can pop dialer I am pretty sure that you can make calls with your Internet/Voice SIM. I didn't activate the option but I did activate an Internet + Messages option and sending / receiving them work like a charm. I'm pretty sure with a Voice subscription you can do that too, but do keep in mind, if you have a SIM slot.
Wilks3y said:
Can any1 provide a UK alternate to Groove?
Why is it US only?
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It is US only because of the laws that GrooveIP must follow. It is the same reason Google Voice is so hard to deal with, because Google provides it for free but has to dodge some laws here and there. Google may require payment after 2013 (they have secure 2013 as free, though).

Bounty for Wifi Calling ??

How can we get this badboy working with wifi calling, im well aware of tmobiles IMS service and how difficult it will be ( nothings impossible with XDA ) to get Tmobiles wifi calling working on this phone .. but im sure that some people like myself really depend on it !! Socal area sucks Id be willing to put 30$ towards the bounty to get this started .. anyone else interested ?
Try putting it in 2g mode for better signal
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ac3theone said:
Try putting it in 2g mode for better signal
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It doesnt make a difference, and its a known issue in this area that all the carriers suck
alleyezondisromo said:
It doesnt make a difference, and its a known issue in this area that all the carriers suck
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I too would be willing to donate to this cause. However, I've been testing with GrooveIP over Wifi, and it works extremely well. Call quality is excellent and you can use it for incoming and outgoing calls without using your plan minutes. I'm using the $5 pro version which integrates with the native dialer, so you makes calls just like you would normally. I know this isn't the same thing as T-Mobile's Wifi calling, but it's a good solution nonetheless.
Best chances of it happening will be when opitmus g with JB is released by T-Mobile. Need system dump with rils, maybe some libs and maybe an apk will be in there. That's what we had to do with the G2 and many older devices when ICS came out. But might be a few months before u see anything. I heard rumors T-Mobile are setting up SIP support but its just rumors
I second the endorsement of GrooVe IP. I don't have my N4 yet (caught in Play Store limbo, like so many others), but in anticipation I've been testing GrooVe IP lightly on my LG G2x and have found it to be very good, with audio quality noticeably better than wifi calling.
sipdroid with a free pbxes account. disable all codecs except speex. excellent.
I really wish google would improve the native sip client...
i'm in for $30 for nexus 4 wifi calling. a lack of wifi calling is only thing holding me back from getting a nexus 4. I have zero tmobile signal inside my house.. (okay, a little at one corner, but not where my home office is.. )
I'd love to get a nexus 4.. but only if it has wifi calling.. even if it is a terrible cm7/gb2.3 hack to get it working.. Obviously, IMS calling would be best.. but as long as it works..
I use groove Ip for my wifi calling. I fwd all my calls to my phone anyway since google voice is my main number, when I get home and connect wifi, groove IP takes over and I receive calls on my phone anyway.
I haven't had any issues using this method on the nexus 4.
dellenrules said:
I use groove Ip for my wifi calling. I fwd all my calls to my phone anyway since google voice is my main number, when I get home and connect wifi, groove IP takes over and I receive calls on my phone anyway.
I haven't had any issues using this method on the nexus 4.
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Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
It might be possible if the T-Mobile version of the LG Optimus phones with the same hardware have it. Assuming someone can hack it together, and the differences in OS aren't a show stopper.
donec said:
Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
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My testing has mostly been by calling my other voicemail line and listening to the recording, so it's only been short segments, but I haven't detected any echoes or dropouts so far.
I've made hour long calls to landline and mobiles with absolutely no drops or issues. In fact the quality is better than what I experienced on vzw. I would say it is on par with my FiOS landline phone. It will of course depend on the quality of your WiFi connection, particularly jitter and latency.
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arvonn said:
i'm in for $30 for nexus 4 wifi calling. a lack of wifi calling is only thing holding me back from getting a nexus 4. I have zero tmobile signal inside my house.. (okay, a little at one corner, but not where my home office is.. )
I'd love to get a nexus 4.. but only if it has wifi calling.. even if it is a terrible cm7/gb2.3 hack to get it working.. Obviously, IMS calling would be best.. but as long as it works..
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try giving T-mobile a call, they might give you a cell booster
donec said:
Using your Nexus 4 for wifi calling with Groove ip do the people ever mention echo or dropped words? I ask that because using my tablet for such calls I can hear a little of both. I have fixed some of it via settings for Groove ip but it is still there some and I was wondering if it worked better with the phone?
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I had echoing when I first used it, but solved it by enabling the basic echo canceller. It send a beep when the call connects then auto magically adjust the device for echoes.
Haven't had a problem since.
dellenrules said:
I had echoing when I first used it, but solved it by enabling the basic echo canceller. It send a beep when the call connects then auto magically adjust the device for echoes.
Haven't had a problem since.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that I had enabled the basic echo canceling as well. Seems to work fine in my testing.
wmm said:
Yes, I forgot to mention that I had enabled the basic echo canceling as well. Seems to work fine in my testing.
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I didn't realize google voice costs $20 to port my number to them. PLus the $5 for GrooVe IP, I'm going to be into this for $25, but at least I should be able to use my phone in my house again.
Has anyone tried Bobsled for this?
u are not alone in this hunt... good news is... 2013 is a good year for voip.
so first off all let me just tell u, ive been hunting for a good FREE VOIP, 4 wayyy to frigging long.
but i have finally got the perfect COMBO of apps that get the job done, and might i add quite well too!
first go set up ur google voice account and get u a free number....
download google voice.... pray ur phone has had service at one point or another....and google acceepts ur phone to allow u to use google voice (google voice is a pain in the ass to get it to register sometimes)...for some reason they want only people with active service to use their service... which makes no sense at all.....but... sometimes those free texting apps that give u 10 FREE minutes calling will do it....
then go download gv+ or mo+ (same friggin thing_ same devoloper) - seems like when one is acting up i can uninstall it and download the other and it will work perfectly for about 2 months then i gota switch back to the other again... its odd...
but i can call anywhere in america for free.... no questions asked... as long as i download voice and install it also. idk
i actually use voice for all my texting and then when i wana call sum1 then i use the mo+ app. and it works flawlessly. no weird numbers, no grainy calls, no echo... its wonderful!

The Note 10.1 as a phone... not quite

My Note 2 stopped working on Friday night and wouldn't turn on. A bit of searching on here and I appear to have got me Sudden Death Syndrome - I thought that was a thing of the past. So, it's going to the service centre later but this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device.
This is something I had given thought to anyway and I thought it would be fine. This wasn't to be the case. I found that wondering around doing normal day-to-day activities was not conducive to having a tablet with me at all times. I don't always carry a bag so a pocketable device is still important.
I gave in and bought a "disposable" £30 phone on Sunday while passing CPW (a Samsung, coincidentally, as the equiv Nokia was £10 more).
It was an interesting way to find out two devices will be required
Thanks for the blog post.
I read it and thoroughly enjoyed it.
It makes me think that you have potential in running a social blogging network, and perhaps be the boss of a profitable blogging enterprise.
Perhaps you can float on an exchange one day and we can all invest in your company.
I'm using GV (which lets me have one outgoing number on all my Telephony-capable devices) and will sometimes just use the phone (usually in Speaker mode) when I need to make a quick call. Works fine. Get a BT headset and you could get away with not having a "real" phone for a while.
try TextPlus
I downloaded it when my phone died. Worked great as a temp phone.
Same here been using gv for a while now and haven't used my phone since.. I'm thinking about getting it turned off permanently since I'm Always around wifi or a hotspot..plus I don't talk on the phone.. Just text and internet 90% of the time
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Forget the bt headset, go the bt stylus for that extra geeky look... I should know, I have one...
Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1?
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I couldn't tell ya- I have an 8000, which has a GSM radio in it and can get/make phone calls (and texts), so when I make an outgoing GV call, it uses the phone built into the Note (and it shows up as my GV number vs. the random number the SIM I use in it has).
I have no idea how Internet calling is done via GV (but I know some people do it).
WRichieX said:
Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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The simplest option is groove ip, the progran registers to your gv account. The developer bought a note and worked diligently to address a bug created in the JB update and the program works flawlessly now. Here's a link to the thread where the developer posted a link to the updated app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107867&page=5
WRichieX said:
Hey guys. Im confused. I use gv number as my regular number. How would I use it on my 10.1? From my understanding of gv, it needs to be routed to another number or your gmail address (which I have obitalk for landline using this feature) Is there a way to use the gv app to specifically make calls via wifi on 10.1? Im using talkatone for that but its glitchy. Thanks.
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Use google voice app too.. It allows text messaging unlike groove ip...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.googlevoice
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I have google voice account set up to use my cell phone number on my tablet... THen have Grove IP tou use my google voice accounts phone number.. so my cell phone number is not given out but calls are routed thru that number .. Makes call quality better.. Considering getting rid of my home phone and using google voice via grove ip for home phone service..
Anyone know a Good Internet faxing app or site that keeps my stuff MY STUFF and does not spam the fax numbers you send too.. ??
Good luck all
Workaround for UK users
If you are in the UK and are a BT customer with a landline you can use their app BT SmartTalk:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bt.voiceapps.homeaway
I have been using this on my Samsung Galaxy Camera to make calls and it works surprisingly well as long as you are in a WiFi hotspot somewhere. It's limited to outgoing calls only but it's a workaround if your mobile phone dies in some way.
You can use it on more than one device but you can only attach it to your one BT account. It's very easy to setup.
Kind of a strange thread. This is what OP originally said that started the discussion.
"...this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device."
Assuming OP has a N8000 it is a phone. And the dialer is a multiview app so you can use the phone feature while still doing other things on the Note like jotting down notes or referencing a document without toggling between apps. Obviously, due to the Note's size, you're not going to hold it up to your ear. You can use it as a speaker phone or with a BT headset including the HM5100 BT S Pen. Used that way it's as valid as any other device as a phone and S Voice over BT is incredibly helpful. I'll sometimes forward calls and MMS from my phone to my Note so I only have to carry one device. Unlike OP, I tend to take my Note pretty much everywhere and the Book Cover case adds very little size or weight and functions well as a stand or prop for using the on-screen keyboard. I probably could use the Note as dedicated phone but a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet and each have strengths and weaknesses.
As for VoIP calling, the Note's no different than any other Wi-Fi enabled mobile device and all can be used with a variety of apps for voice calls and MMS. The only difference, as noted above, the Note's form factor makes it less than ideal as a primary communication device.
One advantage of the Note either in 3G form or using VoIP is its battery life compared to a phone that typically has a battery 2/3 smaller. That and the two forward facing speakers make it a great speaker phone. So in the end it all comes down to people's view on carrying something as large as the Note around to use as a communication device. Functionally it’s as good as anything else out there.
just pack a bigger purse and bluetooth .
BarryH_GEG said:
Kind of a strange thread. This is what OP originally said that started the discussion.
"...this weekend I got the chance to try my 10.1 as my only mobile device."
Assuming OP has a N8000 it is a phone. And the dialer is a multiview app so you can use the phone feature while still doing other things on the Note like jotting down notes or referencing a document without toggling between apps. Obviously, due to the Note's size, you're not going to hold it up to your ear. You can use it as a speaker phone or with a BT headset including the HM5100 BT S Pen. Used that way it's as valid as any other device as a phone and S Voice over BT is incredibly helpful. I'll sometimes forward calls and MMS from my phone to my Note so I only have to carry one device. Unlike OP, I tend to take my Note pretty much everywhere and the Book Cover case adds very little size or weight and functions well as a stand or prop for using the on-screen keyboard. I probably could use the Note as dedicated phone but a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet and each have strengths and weaknesses.
As for VoIP calling, the Note's no different than any other Wi-Fi enabled mobile device and all can be used with a variety of apps for voice calls and MMS. The only difference, as noted above, the Note's form factor makes it less than ideal as a primary communication device.
One advantage of the Note either in 3G form or using VoIP is its battery life compared to a phone that typically has a battery 2/3 smaller. That and the two forward facing speakers make it a great speaker phone. So in the end it all comes down to people's view on carrying something as large as the Note around to use as a communication device. Functionally it’s as good as anything else out there.
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This is so true.. use a bluetooth device and keep the tablet in my Purse.. is how i use my nexus 7 and could do the same with 10 in just pack a slightly bigger purse ..
That was sort of my point. When the N8000 is my tablet and my phone is in my pocket I don't notice. When I have to, effectively, carry the tablet everywhere not having a pocketable phone it imposes limitations on me that I wasn't aware of. Bluetooth range is well and good - I had my old Jawbone and the car handsfree kits too - but if you are just quickly popping out of the house or you want to just wander off with no baggage, literally, then the 10.1 is just too big.
90% of the time I have both devices within reach but it's that 10% that showed me that my lifestyle (for want of a better word) doesn't quite allow me to use only the 10.1 as my sole mobile device.
I am waiting for the HM-5100 to be an official UK device so the price drops and it will be cute, but my original plan to stop using the phone and use just the tablet got a very sudden reality check (for me - you are all different, of course).
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When I have to ... carry the tablet everywhere ...
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Wait- there's people who don't?! :cyclops:

30 dollar TMO plan - Results? Best VOIP solutions?

So, I'm sorry to add to the collection of posts concerning these two subjects, but I've read for hours and hours and not quite seen the consistent results I want.
My SIM card is on the way in the mail from TMO, and I intend to go on the 30/month unlimited text/5GB 4g data/100 minutes, and, like everyone else, want to find a way around the 100 minutes.
I've thought about: Skype, where the quality is great, but I can't get the integration. If I went this route, I'd like to have my Gvoice be the same # as my skype, so I could send/receive calls, and texts on the same number. While this might be possible, the equation goes all wrong @ MMS.
Sipdroid: I've got this all setup, but I am an IT service professional, and where I setup connections, this thing can never make it through the firewall. I don't want to go around opening up ports either. But I love the integration, and choice of codec. How is this solution overall, with Gvoice/pbxes?
GrooVe: While this was crazy easy setup (haven't purchased full version), calls are still sometimes failing to send, or occasional cut-outs even over wifi. Success here?
Basically, I'm looking for optimal reliability AND integration of setup. I'd like to send/receive calls, texts, and MMS all on the same number, and would like to have this be A.) Reliable, B.) on the 30/month plan.
Is it possible? Or am I better off going with a third party like Straight Talk, having my bandwidth policies be Unclear at best, and pay the extra 15?
Thanks, sorry for rambling.
Ok so I did the groove route and it works okay. Like you said it's not very good though. So I use this as a last resort if I'm low on minutes (rarely) and within WiFi range, but not at home.
So when at home, which is where I make most phone calls at, is use this device below. It logs into Google voice and uses the gmail calling like grove ip, except it doesn't sound like crap like groove. No one has complained like I had frequently got when I used groove. You just plug any regular home phone into it after setup and it just works.
OBi100 VoIP Telephone Adapter and Voice Service Bridge
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004LO098O/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
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You could try straight talk or use something like sip droid to avoid the minute cap.
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I went the amazon pbiaf way with the silk codec. Everything working perfectly.
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Callcentric using the stock dialer works pretty good for me. Its not completely free (2c/min) but good enough for me and I like being able integrate it into the stock dialer
PBIAF
Warbuff said:
I went the amazon pbiaf way with the silk codec. Everything working perfectly.
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How has this worked over the mobile network?
on 3g? Edge possible?
I started to do the Amazon PBIAF method, but got mixed up at the terminal step and cancelled. Was kind of in a hurry and didn't sit down with it long.
My biggest issue was that today, traveling outside of my major city (Grand Rapids, MI), I roamed for nearly a half hour. Where I get no data. Even PBIAF is down the toilet there. Starting to look into other options. May have been too good to be true.
Did you know the Nexus 4 has a built in SIP client? I have been using it since the Nexus S was on 2.3.1 and it works great on WiFi. It has the least echo, native dialer, working bluetooth, screen unlock to answer. I have never had to open any ports on my firewall (DD-WRT) for it to work. I use it with SIP Sorcery connected to Sipgate and Google Voice. Just open dialer > settings and at the bottom "internet Call Settings"
Only issue is no audio on T-Mobile
I rarely leave nyc. So my experience in low areas is limited. Is been great using the silk codec everything is clear. The problem is with the mic on the Nexus 4. It's too sensitive making calls for the recipient sound terrible. To solve this I just use headphones with a built in mic.
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How has this worked over the mobile network?
on 3g? Edge possible?
I started to do the Amazon PBIAF method, but got mixed up at the terminal step and cancelled. Was kind of in a hurry and didn't sit down with it long.
My biggest issue was that today, traveling outside of my major city (Grand Rapids, MI), I roamed for nearly a half hour. Where I get no data. Even PBIAF is down the toilet there. Starting to look into other options. May have been too good to be true.
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Did you know the Nexus 4 has a built in SIP client? I have been using it since the Nexus S was on 2.3.1 and it works great on WiFi. It has the least echo, native dialer, working bluetooth, screen unlock to answer. I have never had to open any ports on my firewall (DD-WRT) for it to work. I use it with SIP Sorcery connected to Sipgate and Google Voice. Just open dialer > settings and at the bottom "internet Call Settings"
Only issue is no audio on T-Mobile
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Umm any ideas what codecs that supports?
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Tab 4 and standard calls.

Has anyone discovered a way to unlock the calling feature on the SG Tab 4 line of products yet?
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Has anyone discovered a way to unlock the calling feature on the SG Tab 4 line of products yet?
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Mine works for some reason already. The phone app and the text app are already there. Only works as a speaker phone or using a bt headset though.
Who are you with? T-Mobile here and I only have txting. Even try ed Activity Launcher to find dialer app, but no go.
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I did find speed dialer under contacts in Activity Launcher. I can apply a contact to speed dial number, but when I atempt to use said number. Message shows up... "Voice calls not supported." Beh... was worth a try.
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Decided to dive into Activity Launcher again. I found 'Voice Call Barring' under Device. Opened it up and come to find if i only new the passwords i can activate incoming and out going calls on the T337T. Now to figure out the passwords or find them online.
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Tryed 0000 worked sort of... options turned on and off, but message popped up saying 'Network or simcard error.'.
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Decided to dive into Activity Launcher again. I found 'Voice Call Barring' under Device. Opened it up and come to find if i only new the passwords i can activate incoming and out going calls on the T337T. Now to figure out the passwords or find them online.
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Tryed 0000 worked sort of... options turned on and off, but message popped up saying 'Network or simcard error.'.
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Sounds like you found the magic answer, however, your SIM card may only be provisioned for data only. Take the SIM out of your phone and try it.
Im going to try swapping my wife's sim with mine. If that doesn't work I think i'm going to just leave this one alone for the time being.
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Im going to try swapping my wife's sim with mine. If that doesn't work I think i'm going to just leave this one alone for the time being.
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did you figure this out-thread hung up with this when you seemed so close to resolution (either it worked or did not) thanks
i have tried a bunch of passwords and nothing, called tmobile and Samsung and they offer no solution at all, i am deployed and really need to be able to use the tab as a phone
joseluisgonzalez17 said:
i have tried a bunch of passwords and nothing, called tmobile and Samsung and they offer no solution at all, i am deployed and really need to be able to use the tab as a phone
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in looking at the user manuals it appears the T337T does not have an additional microphone (for speaking into as in a phone call) unlike the T335 which does. This indicates to me that the T337t could not be used as a phone even if someone managed to get the phone app, modem etc all to work together (unless microphone arrangements were changed and even at that would not be worth the trouble-unlikely it would work well-as the folks using CM/AOSP on such tablet phone devices-no solution for echo issue due to speaker/microphone config)

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