DISCUSSION about Development!! - Galaxy Note II General

It has been a few of months since this device got released.
The development has not been unprecedented but hasn't been slow either
We have seen some awesome work on touchwiz front with roms from famous devs!
AOSP hasn't been far behind.though closed sources by crapsung have had their toll.
So what do you guys think about the development here and the future!:fingers-crossed:

Related

Openfire vs Cyanogenmod

And of course this is not to feed any flame wars! We wildfire owners have the luck to enjoy some fantastic contributions from the developers and we are all grateful for the commitment and the devotion they show to the community.
As OpenFire and Cyanogenmod (Stable) are the 2 most popular sense-less roms out there, is it possible to collect in this thread the opinions of users and devs who used those two great roms? Can you compare their features and abilities? I think that now that Cyanogenmod has reached its stable release, this thread will be a great handful of help for all community members.
Remember! No one is looking for posts like "OMG!! X rom is awesome because I say so!". We are not looking for a champion, just trying to make their pros and cons more obvious for every user as both roms are a fantastic contribution!
Thank you all in advance!
I have one thing to say for now, wrong forum, this should be in general
Anyway, I like cm6 cause of the support from the community, and the ever changing builds, its fun.
I also like the extra features that it gives from the aosp source.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

A word from the Devs!

Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Wrong section you should post in the question/answers section.
Anyway to answer your question Qualcomm is pretty much open with their processors and I don't believe there would be any problems building kernels and porting roms.
This is going to be locked / moved.
Nexus devices get CM10 very fast as you only need too add Cyanogenmod source merges and compile it to the Nexus 4 AOSP source and its good to go.
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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It could of gone in either but I think it best suits the q&a section because you are specifically asking a question and you want an answer in return.
Wrong section, ib4tl
Edit: Also, just to put in something useful, this phone WILL be improved, if there are ANY software issues. This is the phone that will have the most dev support in years, with it's low price. In addition, CM isn't "ported", per say, it is built from source.
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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I asked a mod to move it.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Since its a nexus device, the source tree is already in aosp so custom ROMs like cm10, aokp, etc will appear almost instantly. No need to do any major hacks get stuff fully working like other phones.. Same with kernels, the source will be available immediately, so there's no waiting for the new kernel sources (*COUGH COUGH * HTC)
Sent from my SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
I think molesarecoming is planning to bring ParanoidAndroid over to the Nexus 4

[DISCUSSION] Let's try to Make TOGETHER Android 5.0 For Galaxy S2!

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First of all, i have to say that CyanogenMod Team, OmniRom team or other team don't want to build a distribution of Android L for Samsung Galaxy S2 because it's too older and came with Android 2.3.6 (All those Teams said that don't want to port Android L to devices which came with Android Gindgerbread or lower).
OmniRom on twitters said:
yousif monther ‏on 8 nov
at omni_rom will you support the s2 i9100 ?
OmniROM ‏on 8 nov
at yousif monther Most likely not - see the XDA post. We badly need more device maintainers and developers. i9100 will need loads of work!
Source: OmniRom on Twitter: Whee! First OmniROM 5.0 build just booted on the flo (N7 2013). Developers, get involved!
I also read that there is a Build of AOSP 5.0 made by NovaFusion team for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini ... but we can't use this Rom as a point of reference because of his different processor... Samsung Galaxy S2 has Exynos 4210.
Older device wich has get Android L:
Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini: [ROM][5.0.0]Android Open Source Project 5.0 20141106
Samsung Galaxy S3 (Not too old, but it's old ): [WIP] Android 5.0 Lollipop for Galaxy S3 (GT-I9300)
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989 (skyrocket): [ROM][5.0.0] AOSP Lollipop Early Preview [November 7, 2014]
But all these distributions can't help us!
So, What we can do is to wait for stable source codes of:
OmniRom
CyanogenMod
ParanoidAndroid
or other major custom distribution
Let's try together or just Discuss It!
Sorry for my bad English!
Rofl....chill bro, 5.0 just came out... have some patience. When some similar devices have a good build ( stable ) , then we can start to port/compile it from sources...till then, have patience.
dodgedroid said:
Rofl....chill bro, 5.0 just came out... have some patience. When some similar devices have a good build ( stable ) , then we can start to port/compile it from sources...till then, have patience.
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Yah, i know. I wanna help devs on this build , so i'm trying to figure out how can i port a kernel for our device!
A Word To The Inexperienced Users (I am primarily included)
Buddy, what part of "error 404: I9100 developers not found" part don't you get? I too eagerly want to get that Android Lollipop sensation on my old i9100 (two and a half years old now), but I have no knowledge in the real development, yes you read write, R E A L. You think building ROMs is development? Want me to teach you how to set up Ubuntu, download sources, and build ROMs? But does it make any of us "developers"?
Back to the real talk. So you want Android Lollipop 5.0, hell, we all want it. Seeing all those "Android 5.0 ported to blah blah" made you drool all over the screen, and gave you some hope, no? Buddy, what you are seeing are AOSP ports, that's Android Open Source Project, you read that? O P E N S O U R C E... But wait a minute, Exynos is a closed-source bastard, so why shake a leg if it ain't going to be stable, or even "bootable"? Do you think it's that easy? Just create a thread on the legendary i9100 forums and boom, hook up the devs like fish. No... And even if a developer seen your thread, they probably no longer own the device, or remembered the pain and agony of maintaining for the i9100. Do you think CyanogenMod developers ported KitKat to our device? We go ahead and talk all proud claiming "the developers" are supporting our device. HELL NO, it's amazing people who don't belong to anyone that get encouraged to do the work, people that break the limits ridiculous OEMs put to kill a device. Wanna know how KitKat and CyanogenMod 11 came to our device? You guessed it, "the developers" didn't do hell. CyanogenMod did it? They're busy cleaning their crap now that they've gone corporate, they are useless if it weren't for the maintainers of devices, people that break the locks and rule their phones, CyanogenMod just claims they're "the developers" but they can kiss my ass. @Wayland_ACE, if you are reading this, sir, I thank you for your amazing contribution, the days and hours you've put into bringing Android 4.4 to our device, the amazing builds of the first and early KitKat builds, builds that I still keep to this day. @milaq, when CyanogenMod's Jenkins eats the dirt, you were there providing us with nightlies that proved to be stable, preparing that device tree, and bringing CyanogenMod 11 to what it is today. Thank these two for KitKat, because THEY started the real work, and others came along. But you know what? The real credit for custom ROM goes to @codeworkx, Mr. Daniel Hillenbrand, you are the bestest of the best, the elite developer, with TeamHackSung, you guys were invincible, gods amidst the battle Samsung started, you, sir, deserve all the "thank you"s and glory, you and Mr. Andrew Dodd @Entropy512, and Mr. Guillaume Lesniak @XpLoDWilD, and all the other real developers that were barely involved with CyanogenMod. The spotlight was taken away from you, and all the noobs chanted "Thank you CyanogenMod" and forgot the real cheese, making you look like underdogs, but you guys were the The Powers That Be, TPTB from day zero. Mr. Andrew, I've read your posts (still am reading, uni = so little time) on Google Plus, and I enjoyed seeing real developers again. Although I had that pale face every time I read, I enjoyed every second of it, seeing people like you wiping Samsung's butts, cleaning and fixing their mistakes on their products, and now that you guys dropped Exynos support in general, Samsung walks in triumph, lingering around with a big grin, the walk of pride, no one to shed the light on their manufacturer errors, their own mess. Thank you, sir, and all those I mentioned, if you read this, I, on behalf the i9100 users enjoying the never-meant-to-run-on-i9100 KitKat that you developers opened path for since 2011. Thank you, for all your work, and our words will never repay you the effort put into reviving a dead device, a device that Samsung killed with its own "official" firmwares.. what a joke...
Back to you again my friend, take no offense towards you, as my words are words of a suffering i9100 user who keeps track of real development, something we haven't seen for a long time. Today's new upcoming developers have the balls to call themselves developers? In what right? Those people I mentioned up there, they hacked the crap out of Exynos, they don't have closed-source in their dictionary, and still, they kept on going, even when Mr. Guillaume bricked his Note back then, that's the ultimate sacrifice they did, not just damaging their devices, devices they bought with their hard-earned money, but also the time they put, and My Oh' My is time money... Today's development is all about Qualcomm, HA! With the right guides and tools, I can make you @CoolJoseph96 a developer, and we'll all do the Yippee ki-yay!!
Porting Android 5.0 from AOSP isn't a walk-in-the-park. You need the right drivers to be merged and stuff, drivers for the camera, for GPU, RIL related things, touchscreen and CPU code (stuff I have no experience of), AOSP comes with nothing, so you (not you personally) need to put in to get to call your device "a phone", because no one is willing to use Android Lollipop that barely has the 5.0 in About Phone. The device is dead, my friend, doing such threads is nice, motivational, you can probably do a "fight cancer" campaign that I'd guarantee it'll work, but a developer thread to bring developers to do something that reminds them of taking a poop (same as developing for Exynos), I don't think it'll help much. But here's a little bit of light at the end of tunnel for you, when CyanogenMod released CM 12 sources, or Omni or any other team releases their own source code, our chances will definitely increase, as porting AOSP like that to Exynos 4210 is like asking Apple for iOS sources, wait.. never mind (let's hope they don't take me to court...).
I apologize for bashing the thread like that my friend, I mean no harm or anything bad towards you, but this isn't as easy as we users think it is, Mr. Daniel used to spend days to get a new Android version booting on our device, and double the days to getting the device tree up and fixing bugs... etc. Patience is the key in such a situation, who knows, but take this for granted, all the ROMs starting from Android 5.0 and above are getting UNOFFICIAL tags, yup, no official maintainers, no official releases, and please don't tell me you believe CyanogenMod 11 Snapshots are made for stability on our device, because if anyone does, I sure got one hell of a laugh to enjoy. It's as stable as the Nightly branch.... which.... is.... unstable.... and because no developer tests those builds or commits new changes to bringing them to a real stable state, you just get lucky over there with the illusion of stability.
At the end of this long post, either grant some users (I'm heavily included) some time to understand how "it's meant to be played" and we, not me and you, but every enthusiastic member, will revive this device. The i9100 is capable, so let's see how far it'll go, although I am getting a new device (hoping this week or the one after, it's a Note 4 by the way), but still, I diligently feel that I must contribute to such an amazing device like many great names did, Mr. Chandra Poerwanto @fusionjack for years of giving and powering us with not only Slim, but a Sabered one, Mr. Yuri @dorimanx for your amazing power core, a legacy left for us to enjoy and new versions of Linux with customizations, Mr. Marco @Markox89 for your great work back in 2013 helping Mr. Pavel build the alpha CM11, and for the -O3 Linaro builds, @_Sale_ for NeatROM, a powerful tool and great firmware, @Nico_60 for Spirit ROM, Mr. Vivek @Vivek_Neel for everything you've given us when we barely had support of anything, but you were there since day 1 working for our device, Mr. Armen @Biftor for the one and only Biftor series, @Goldie for the amazing guides on smali and Alliance ROM, @bajee11 for Rootbox, a ROM I wish to have on KitKat, @sooti for Beanstalk, Liquid Smooth and all other ROMs you've maintained loyally, @infected_ for joining the powerful ROMs with amazing toolchains bringing not only unique features, but real smoothness as well, @Christiancs1969 for CyanoFox and @mnt Mantas Zilius, you guys rocked back then, too bad to see the ROM dead for us, the amazing Mr. Ghokhan Moral @ghokhanmoral thanks to you sir (although you're inactive for years now) I attempted to root my phone for the first time after 4 months of owning it, and it was the only custom kernel back then I used, dualboot, tweaks.., @nims11 for being an awesome maintainer, @Hopper8 for living up to the Recognized Contributor title, what an amazing member, @HardCorePawn for introducing Slim to our device, and what a love story that was and still is on my phone, @rkoby13 (you rock my friend) for being "that awesome member", you are a motivation in my eyes, a member that helped many and been a big brother at most situations with your broad knowledge, @pulser_g2 because every awesome member passed through this device and left a trace, @cybernetus and @Computoncio for keeping the legacy dorimanx left for us alive, you guys deserve a job well done by the end of the day, a big thank you guys to all the people I mentioned and definitely forgot to mention, your work and help will be commemorated by the humble users that look at this device and say, "Hell, this thing still runs, The Great Ones of today passed on this one, if it ain't for them, it would've been just another smartphone". Sorry for bringing this here, but I had to, let the forums know who made the Galaxy S2 legendary, and for all those members leaving and getting new devices that have the same forums as the i9100, the forum didn't make it itself, it's the real developers and members that made it. God bless you all.
Android 5.0 on i9100? In order to beat the beast, you have to be a beast, so roll up your sleeves and make a difference, because these people I quoted up there, the big hearts and spirit they got, we must be motivated by them, enough hiding behind our fingers and waiting for everything to come to us, let's give them a big thank you by warming up a little and do the work for once ourselves. Have a nice day/night buddy, peace out
Paul_Kolanjian said:
Buddy, what part of "error 404: I9100 developers not found" part don't you get? [...]peace out
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Thanks for the long and true post.
I've seen many mentions of my nickname all over XDA for i9100, mixed replies, etc. So yes, I will try to port Omni 5.0 to the i9100 when the code base is stable, however while I can do the base bringup, I won't be able to maintain it long-term. So while I will attempt to port it and make most of it work, I might not can/want to make it 100% bug-free.
Paul_Kolanjian said:
Buddy, what part of "error 404: I9100 developers not found" [...] peace out
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The best post i ever read ! Thanks for your reflections!
Paul_Kolanjian said:
Buddy, what part of "error 404: I9100 developers not found" part don't you get? I too eagerly want to get that Android Lollipop sensation on my old i9100 (two and a half years old now), but I have no knowledge in the real development, yes you read write, R E A L. You think building ROMs is development? Want me to teach you how to set up Ubuntu, download sources, and build ROMs? But does it make any of us "developers"?
Back to the real talk. So you want Android Lollipop 5.0, hell, we all want it. Seeing all those "Android 5.0 ported to blah blah" made you drool all over the screen, and gave you some hope, no? Buddy, what you are seeing are AOSP ports, that's Android Open Source Project, you read that? O P E N S O U R C E... But wait a minute, Exynos is a closed-source bastard, so why shake a leg if it ain't going to be stable, or even "bootable"? Do you think it's that easy? Just create a thread on the legendary i9100 forums and boom, hook up the devs like fish. No... And even if a developer seen your thread, they probably no longer own the device, or remembered the pain and agony of maintaining for the i9100. Do you think CyanogenMod developers ported KitKat to our device? We go ahead and talk all proud claiming "the developers" are supporting our device. HELL NO, it's amazing people who don't belong to anyone that get encouraged to do the work, people that break the limits ridiculous OEMs put to kill a device. Wanna know how KitKat and CyanogenMod 11 came to our device? You guessed it, "the developers" didn't do hell. CyanogenMod did it? They're busy cleaning their crap now that they've gone corporate, they are useless if it weren't for the maintainers of devices, people that break the locks and rule their phones, CyanogenMod just claims they're "the developers" but they can kiss my ass. @Wayland_ACE, if you are reading this, sir, I thank you for your amazing contribution, the days and hours you've put into bringing Android 4.4 to our device, the amazing builds of the first and early KitKat builds, builds that I still keep to this day. @milaq, when CyanogenMod's Jenkins eats the dirt, you were there providing us with nightlies that proved to be stable, preparing that device tree, and bringing CyanogenMod 11 to what it is today. Thank these two for KitKat, because THEY started the real work, and others came along. But you know what? The real credit for custom ROM goes to @codeworkx, Mr. Daniel Hillenbrand, you are the bestest of the best, the elite developer, with TeamHackSung, you guys were invincible, gods amidst the battle Samsung started, you, sir, deserve all the "thank you"s and glory, you and Mr. Andrew Dodd @Entropy512, and Mr. Guillaume Lesniak @XpLoDWilD, and all the other real developers that were barely involved with CyanogenMod. The spotlight was taken away from you, and all the noobs chanted "Thank you CyanogenMod" and forgot the real cheese, making you look like underdogs, but you guys were the The Powers That Be, TPTB from day zero. Mr. Andrew, I've read your posts (still am reading, uni = so little time) on Google Plus, and I enjoyed seeing real developers again. Although I had that pale face every time I read, I enjoyed every second of it, seeing people like you wiping Samsung's butts, cleaning and fixing their mistakes on their products, and now that you guys dropped Exynos support in general, Samsung walks in triumph, lingering around with a big grin, the walk of pride, no one to shed the light on their manufacturer errors, their own mess. Thank you, sir, and all those I mentioned, if you read this, I, on behalf the i9100 users enjoying the never-meant-to-run-on-i9100 KitKat that you developers opened path for since 2011. Thank you, for all your work, and our words will never repay you the effort put into reviving a dead device, a device that Samsung killed with its own "official" firmwares.. what a joke...
Back to you again my friend, take no offense towards you, as my words are words of a suffering i9100 user who keeps track of real development, something we haven't seen for a long time. Today's new upcoming developers have the balls to call themselves developers? In what right? Those people I mentioned up there, they hacked the crap out of Exynos, they don't have closed-source in their dictionary, and still, they kept on going, even when Mr. Guillaume bricked his Note back then, that's the ultimate sacrifice they did, not just damaging their devices, devices they bought with their hard-earned money, but also the time they put, and My Oh' My is time money... Today's development is all about Qualcomm, HA! With the right guides and tools, I can make you @CoolJoseph96 a developer, and we'll all do the Yippee ki-yay!!
Porting Android 5.0 from AOSP isn't a walk-in-the-park. You need the right drivers to be merged and stuff, drivers for the camera, for GPU, RIL related things, touchscreen and CPU code (stuff I have no experience of), AOSP comes with nothing, so you (not you personally) need to put in to get to call your device "a phone", because no one is willing to use Android Lollipop that barely has the 5.0 in About Phone. The device is dead, my friend, doing such threads is nice, motivational, you can probably do a "fight cancer" campaign that I'd guarantee it'll work, but a developer thread to bring developers to do something that reminds them of taking a poop (same as developing for Exynos), I don't think it'll help much. But here's a little bit of light at the end of tunnel for you, when CyanogenMod released CM 12 sources, or Omni or any other team releases their own source code, our chances will definitely increase, as porting AOSP like that to Exynos 4210 is like asking Apple for iOS sources, wait.. never mind (let's hope they don't take me to court...).
I apologize for bashing the thread like that my friend, I mean no harm or anything bad towards you, but this isn't as easy as we users think it is, Mr. Daniel used to spend days to get a new Android version booting on our device, and double the days to getting the device tree up and fixing bugs... etc. Patience is the key in such a situation, who knows, but take this for granted, all the ROMs starting from Android 5.0 and above are getting UNOFFICIAL tags, yup, no official maintainers, no official releases, and please don't tell me you believe CyanogenMod 11 Snapshots are made for stability on our device, because if anyone does, I sure got one hell of a laugh to enjoy. It's as stable as the Nightly branch.... which.... is.... unstable.... and because no developer tests those builds or commits new changes to bringing them to a real stable state, you just get lucky over there with the illusion of stability.
At the end of this long post, either grant some users (I'm heavily included) some time to understand how "it's meant to be played" and we, not me and you, but every enthusiastic member, will revive this device. The i9100 is capable, so let's see how far it'll go, although I am getting a new device (hoping this week or the one after, it's a Note 4 by the way), but still, I diligently feel that I must contribute to such an amazing device like many great names did, Mr. Chandra Poerwanto @fusionjack for years of giving and powering us with not only Slim, but a Sabered one, Mr. Yuri @dorimanx for your amazing power core, a legacy left for us to enjoy and new versions of Linux with customizations, Mr. Marco @Markox89 for your great work back in 2013 helping Mr. Pavel build the alpha CM11, and for the -O3 Linaro builds, @_Sale_ for NeatROM, a powerful tool and great firmware, @Nico_60 for Spirit ROM, Mr. Vivek @Vivek_Neel for everything you've given us when we barely had support of anything, but you were there since day 1 working for our device, Mr. Armen @Biftor for the one and only Biftor series, @Goldie for the amazing guides on smali and Alliance ROM, @bajee11 for Rootbox, a ROM I wish to have on KitKat, @sooti for Beanstalk, Liquid Smooth and all other ROMs you've maintained loyally, @infected_ for joining the powerful ROMs with amazing toolchains bringing not only unique features, but real smoothness as well, @Christiancs1969 for CyanoFox and @mnt Mantas Zilius, you guys rocked back then, too bad to see the ROM dead for us, the amazing Mr. Ghokhan Moral @ghokhanmoral thanks to you sir (although you're inactive for years now) I attempted to root my phone for the first time after 4 months of owning it, and it was the only custom kernel back then I used, dualboot, tweaks.., @nims11 for being an awesome maintainer, @Hopper8 for living up to the Recognized Contributor title, what an amazing member, @HardCorePawn for introducing Slim to our device, and what a love story that was and still is on my phone, @rkoby13 (you rock my friend) for being "that awesome member", you are a motivation in my eyes, a member that helped many and been a big brother at most situations with your broad knowledge, @pulser_g2 because every awesome member passed through this device and left a trace, @cybernetus and @Computoncio for keeping the legacy dorimanx left for us alive, you guys deserve a job well done by the end of the day, a big thank you guys to all the people I mentioned and definitely forgot to mention, your work and help will be commemorated by the humble users that look at this device and say, "Hell, this thing still runs, The Great Ones of today passed on this one, if it ain't for them, it would've been just another smartphone". Sorry for bringing this here, but I had to, let the forums know who made the Galaxy S2 legendary, and for all those members leaving and getting new devices that have the same forums as the i9100, the forum didn't make it itself, it's the real developers and members that made it. God bless you all.
Android 5.0 on i9100? In order to beat the beast, you have to be a beast, so roll up your sleeves and make a difference, because these people I quoted up there, the big hearts and spirit they got, we must be motivated by them, enough hiding behind our fingers and waiting for everything to come to us, let's give them a big thank you by warming up a little and do the work for once ourselves. Have a nice day/night buddy, peace out
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Truly one of the best posts I have read so far.
Well said!
And Thanks for the appreciation.
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Truley one of the best posts I have read so far.
Well said!
And Thanks for the appreciation.
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a monster post
+1
I'll take a look, but no any promises...
What a result for the I9100. :thumbup:
Compiling lollipop
Hey guys,
I really want android 5.0 on the S2 ( i9100 ) so i decided to help , but there is only 1 problem i am not a pro in ubuntu.
I compiled a kernel once but it wasn't booting.
But here's my question:
Can someone help me with it so we will make a development team
My pc can be on during the whole day/night
the specs are:
Intel Core2Duo @ 1,80GHz
4 GB R.A.M
200GB hdd
256mb Video memory ( BAD )
Please pm me if u want to help me or if you want to form a team.
Thanks in advance
@Paul_Kolanjian wind stopped blowing when i read your post, past time images started to flash in my brain as i read every word..
Truly the best appreciation post for all (current/ex) i9100 developers, thank you very much developers for all you've done..
btw i'd like to add 1 person to my thank list, that is @krarvind who introduced slim to our device.
We have to wait!
jeffreyvh said:
Hey guys,
I really want android 5.0 on the S2 ( i9100 ) so i decided to help , but there is only 1 problem i am not a pro in ubuntu.
I compiled a kernel once but it wasn't booting.
But here's my question:
Can someone help me with it so we will make a development team
My pc can be on during the whole day/night
the specs are:
Intel Core2Duo @ 1,80GHz
4 GB R.A.M
200GB hdd
256mb Video memory ( BAD )
Please pm me if u want to help me or if you want to form a team.
Thanks in advance
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We'll wait for a stable source code of OmniRom or CyanogenMod! After there're some progress with these rom we can do something
CoolJoseph96 said:
We'll wait for a stable source code of OmniRom or CyanogenMod! After there're some progress with these rom we can do something
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I want to make the AOSP Android 5.0.0 .
Do you want to help me?
Please p.m me
jeffreyvh said:
I want to make the AOSP Android 5.0.0 .
Do you want to help me?
Please p.m me
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Wow. Aren't you on fire.
Well, right now I am waiting for stable CyanogenMod 12 source code.
If I am not mistaken, Omni sources are up and running right?
rqmok said:
Wow. Aren't you on fire.
Well, right now I am waiting for stable CyanogenMod 12 source code.
If I am not mistaken, Omni sources are up and running right?
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Yes you are right!
Do you want to join my team for the development?
Because every little piece of help does make it a shorter time to wait
XpLoDWilD said:
Thanks for the long and true post.
I've seen many mentions of my nickname all over XDA for i9100, mixed replies, etc. So yes, I will try to port Omni 5.0 to the i9100 when the code base is stable, however while I can do the base bringup, I won't be able to maintain it long-term. So while I will attempt to port it and make most of it work, I might not can/want to make it 100% bug-free.
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Hi XpLoDWilD, i krów it is wrong tread but do you will try it also for n7000?
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Buddy, what part of "error 404: I9100 developers not found" part don't you get? I too eagerly want to get that Android Lollipop sensation on my old i9100 (two and a half years old now), but I have no knowledge in the real development, yes you read write, R E A L. You think building ROMs is development? Want me to teach you how to set up Ubuntu, download sources, and build ROMs? But does it make any of us "developers"?
Back to the real talk. So you want Android Lollipop 5.0, hell, we all want it. Seeing all those "Android 5.0 ported to blah blah" made you drool all over the screen, and gave you some hope, no? Buddy, what you are seeing are AOSP ports, that's Android Open Source Project, you read that? O P E N S O U R C E... But wait a minute, Exynos is a closed-source bastard, so why shake a leg if it ain't going to be stable, or even "bootable"? Do you think it's that easy? Just create a thread on the legendary i9100 forums and boom, hook up the devs like fish. No... And even if a developer seen your thread, they probably no longer own the device, or remembered the pain and agony of maintaining for the i9100. Do you think CyanogenMod developers ported KitKat to our device? We go ahead and talk all proud claiming "the developers" are supporting our device. HELL NO, it's amazing people who don't belong to anyone that get encouraged to do the work, people that break the limits ridiculous OEMs put to kill a device. Wanna know how KitKat and CyanogenMod 11 came to our device? You guessed it, "the developers" didn't do hell. CyanogenMod did it? They're busy cleaning their crap now that they've gone corporate, they are useless if it weren't for the maintainers of devices, people that break the locks and rule their phones, CyanogenMod just claims they're "the developers" but they can kiss my ass. @Wayland_ACE, if you are reading this, sir, I thank you for your amazing contribution, the days and hours you've put into bringing Android 4.4 to our device, the amazing builds of the first and early KitKat builds, builds that I still keep to this day. @milaq, when CyanogenMod's Jenkins eats the dirt, you were there providing us with nightlies that proved to be stable, preparing that device tree, and bringing CyanogenMod 11 to what it is today. Thank these two for KitKat, because THEY started the real work, and others came along. But you know what? The real credit for custom ROM goes to @codeworkx, Mr. Daniel Hillenbrand, you are the bestest of the best, the elite developer, with TeamHackSung, you guys were invincible, gods amidst the battle Samsung started, you, sir, deserve all the "thank you"s and glory, you and Mr. Andrew Dodd @Entropy512, and Mr. Guillaume Lesniak @XpLoDWilD, and all the other real developers that were barely involved with CyanogenMod. The spotlight was taken away from you, and all the noobs chanted "Thank you CyanogenMod" and forgot the real cheese, making you look like underdogs, but you guys were the The Powers That Be, TPTB from day zero. Mr. Andrew, I've read your posts (still am reading, uni = so little time) on Google Plus, and I enjoyed seeing real developers again. Although I had that pale face every time I read, I enjoyed every second of it, seeing people like you wiping Samsung's butts, cleaning and fixing their mistakes on their products, and now that you guys dropped Exynos support in general, Samsung walks in triumph, lingering around with a big grin, the walk of pride, no one to shed the light on their manufacturer errors, their own mess. Thank you, sir, and all those I mentioned, if you read this, I, on behalf the i9100 users enjoying the never-meant-to-run-on-i9100 KitKat that you developers opened path for since 2011. Thank you, for all your work, and our words will never repay you the effort put into reviving a dead device, a device that Samsung killed with its own "official" firmwares.. what a joke...
Back to you again my friend, take no offense towards you, as my words are words of a suffering i9100 user who keeps track of real development, something we haven't seen for a long time. Today's new upcoming developers have the balls to call themselves developers? In what right? Those people I mentioned up there, they hacked the crap out of Exynos, they don't have closed-source in their dictionary, and still, they kept on going, even when Mr. Guillaume bricked his Note back then, that's the ultimate sacrifice they did, not just damaging their devices, devices they bought with their hard-earned money, but also the time they put, and My Oh' My is time money... Today's development is all about Qualcomm, HA! With the right guides and tools, I can make you @CoolJoseph96 a developer, and we'll all do the Yippee ki-yay!!
Porting Android 5.0 from AOSP isn't a walk-in-the-park. You need the right drivers to be merged and stuff, drivers for the camera, for GPU, RIL related things, touchscreen and CPU code (stuff I have no experience of), AOSP comes with nothing, so you (not you personally) need to put in to get to call your device "a phone", because no one is willing to use Android Lollipop that barely has the 5.0 in About Phone. The device is dead, my friend, doing such threads is nice, motivational, you can probably do a "fight cancer" campaign that I'd guarantee it'll work, but a developer thread to bring developers to do something that reminds them of taking a poop (same as developing for Exynos), I don't think it'll help much. But here's a little bit of light at the end of tunnel for you, when CyanogenMod released CM 12 sources, or Omni or any other team releases their own source code, our chances will definitely increase, as porting AOSP like that to Exynos 4210 is like asking Apple for iOS sources, wait.. never mind (let's hope they don't take me to court...).
I apologize for bashing the thread like that my friend, I mean no harm or anything bad towards you, but this isn't as easy as we users think it is, Mr. Daniel used to spend days to get a new Android version booting on our device, and double the days to getting the device tree up and fixing bugs... etc. Patience is the key in such a situation, who knows, but take this for granted, all the ROMs starting from Android 5.0 and above are getting UNOFFICIAL tags, yup, no official maintainers, no official releases, and please don't tell me you believe CyanogenMod 11 Snapshots are made for stability on our device, because if anyone does, I sure got one hell of a laugh to enjoy. It's as stable as the Nightly branch.... which.... is.... unstable.... and because no developer tests those builds or commits new changes to bringing them to a real stable state, you just get lucky over there with the illusion of stability.
At the end of this long post, either grant some users (I'm heavily included) some time to understand how "it's meant to be played" and we, not me and you, but every enthusiastic member, will revive this device. The i9100 is capable, so let's see how far it'll go, although I am getting a new device (hoping this week or the one after, it's a Note 4 by the way), but still, I diligently feel that I must contribute to such an amazing device like many great names did, Mr. Chandra Poerwanto @fusionjack for years of giving and powering us with not only Slim, but a Sabered one, Mr. Yuri @dorimanx for your amazing power core, a legacy left for us to enjoy and new versions of Linux with customizations, Mr. Marco @Markox89 for your great work back in 2013 helping Mr. Pavel build the alpha CM11, and for the -O3 Linaro builds, @_Sale_ for NeatROM, a powerful tool and great firmware, @Nico_60 for Spirit ROM, Mr. Vivek @Vivek_Neel for everything you've given us when we barely had support of anything, but you were there since day 1 working for our device, Mr. Armen @Biftor for the one and only Biftor series, @Goldie for the amazing guides on smali and Alliance ROM, @bajee11 for Rootbox, a ROM I wish to have on KitKat, @sooti for Beanstalk, Liquid Smooth and all other ROMs you've maintained loyally, @infected_ for joining the powerful ROMs with amazing toolchains bringing not only unique features, but real smoothness as well, @Christiancs1969 for CyanoFox and @mnt Mantas Zilius, you guys rocked back then, too bad to see the ROM dead for us, the amazing Mr. Ghokhan Moral @ghokhanmoral thanks to you sir (although you're inactive for years now) I attempted to root my phone for the first time after 4 months of owning it, and it was the only custom kernel back then I used, dualboot, tweaks.., @nims11 for being an awesome maintainer, @Hopper8 for living up to the Recognized Contributor title, what an amazing member, @HardCorePawn for introducing Slim to our device, and what a love story that was and still is on my phone, @rkoby13 (you rock my friend) for being "that awesome member", you are a motivation in my eyes, a member that helped many and been a big brother at most situations with your broad knowledge, @pulser_g2 because every awesome member passed through this device and left a trace, @cybernetus and @Computoncio for keeping the legacy dorimanx left for us alive, you guys deserve a job well done by the end of the day, a big thank you guys to all the people I mentioned and definitely forgot to mention, your work and help will be commemorated by the humble users that look at this device and say, "Hell, this thing still runs, The Great Ones of today passed on this one, if it ain't for them, it would've been just another smartphone". Sorry for bringing this here, but I had to, let the forums know who made the Galaxy S2 legendary, and for all those members leaving and getting new devices that have the same forums as the i9100, the forum didn't make it itself, it's the real developers and members that made it. God bless you all.
Android 5.0 on i9100? In order to beat the beast, you have to be a beast, so roll up your sleeves and make a difference, because these people I quoted up there, the big hearts and spirit they got, we must be motivated by them, enough hiding behind our fingers and waiting for everything to come to us, let's give them a big thank you by warming up a little and do the work for once ourselves. Have a nice day/night buddy, peace out
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This surely one of the best things I have read in a long time... I haven't been here since the release of the phone...but I have seen @Wayland_ACE did when 4.4 was released... He did a great job and dorimanx and all the other great devs... Also Seeing @XpLoDWilD wanting to revive the exynos 4210, sir you're amazing... Although @Entrophy512 seems to want to just completely remove exynos 4210 from his life , at least you want to try...
XpLoDWilD said:
Thanks for the long and true post.
I've seen many mentions of my nickname all over XDA for i9100, mixed replies, etc. So yes, I will try to port Omni 5.0 to the i9100 when the code base is stable, however while I can do the base bringup, I won't be able to maintain it long-term. So while I will attempt to port it and make most of it work, I might not can/want to make it 100% bug-free.
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I'll take a look, but no any promises...
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Dudes, you're awesome
@Paul_Kolanjian
Thanks for such a long post. Finally something worth to read through
And thanks for the compliment. Although I didn't do much, other than helping out lost souls on the way.:angel:
If Android 5.0 will come to S-2 it will....if not....i'm more than happy and extremely thankful to SlimRoms Team and @fusionjack who's maintaining SlimSaber for us.....it's just raw power that makes me to keep my device instead of changing it
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jeffreyvh said:
Yes you are right!
Do you want to join my team for the development?
Because every little piece of help does make it a shorter time to wait
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Sorry to say....but with your machine specs it would take looooong to compile the ROM. Not mentioning that you have to learn of "how to" on the way....that could be difficult coz nowadays knowledge is expected from one that offered help with "Real development stuff" like @Paul_Kolanjian said in his super post above.
The "Real Developers" don't have time to teach newbies all over. But luckily developers are very smart and they made a bunch of "How to's" all over the Google. And you can find a lot of info on that IMHO
@QA Bot went haywire, eh?...LOL

Development for Z2 tablet

I have created this thread to prevent spamming the Android Development forum.
Starting point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58117080&postcount=93
Originally Posted by BabelHuber
I honestly do not understand your whining here: We have:
- Pre-rooted stock ROMs for WIFI and LTE
- CM11 and CM12 for WIFI and LTE
- PAC ROM (4.4 and 5.0) for WIFI and LTE
- AOSP for LTE (WIFI will follow according to the guys from FreeXPERIA)
So nothing is "dead".
The Z2 tablet is not a best seller, it is a high-end Android tablet with a very limited user base. Of course devices which have sold an order of magnitude more like the Samsung Galaxy S5 or the HTC One M8 attract more developers, but then look at the forums for the Galaxy S5 Mini, where there is hardly any development at all. Compared to such devices we do very well here.
I personally am glad that we have good developers supporting our tablet and a range of custom ROMs to choose from and I am thankful for the ROMs we have and for the work the developers spend in their free time.
Finally, this is XDA here - if you think there are too few ROMs here feel free to make your own one instead of alienating the developers we have by complaining about their work.
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Hi,
Waoh !
OK, sorry... I take it all back.
Did not thought my post would suggest such vehement reaction.
In fact, what did I wrote ?
Simply that on the whole channel dedicated to "Z2 Tablet Android development" there has not been a single post in over 3 weeks...
Which makes me fear that development is not really alive for a device I really like.
Does it deserve such reaction ?
Maybe. But I beg to differ...
I am not whining, I am not complaining... I was just stating.
That makes a difference to me. Maybe not to you...
Regards.
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See, CM12 and Lollipop AOSP were updated just 2 days ago, on 2015-01-10. PAC was updated today, before it was updated on 2015-01-05. Yesterday, a new pre-rooted stock ROM for the SGP521 was posted.
Yet you ask if development is dead.
In my opinion, this is insulting the developers who do the work for us - for free, mind you!
I do not want to start a flame war or a non-technology-related discussion here. I merely want to point out that I do not share your view and that I am thankful for the ROMs we have.
Also I want to point out that I appreciate the work the developers do - we already have 'lost' a developer here in this forum who was alienated by some comments from certain members, and I think this shouldn't be repeated.
Hence I felt that I have to reply to your post to make the developers know that there are members on this board who do not share your view. Usually I simply ignore such posts to prevent spamming the forums, but I think your repeated complaints (no Apps2SD, no 4.4 AOSP, no new developments) warrant a reply.
BabelHuber said:
I have created this thread to prevent spamming the Android Development forum.
Starting point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58117080&postcount=93
See, CM12 and Lollipop AOSP were updated just 2 days ago, on 2015-01-10. PAC was updated today, before it was updated on 2015-01-05. Yesterday, a new pre-rooted stock ROM for the SGP521 was posted.
Yet you ask if development is dead.
In my opinion, this is insulting the developers who do the work for us - for free, mind you!
I do not want to start a flame war or a non-technology-related discussion here. I merely want to point out that I do not share your view and that I am thankful for the ROMs we have.
Also I want to point out that I appreciate the work the developers do - we already have 'lost' a developer here in this forum who was alienated by some comments from certain members, and I think this shouldn't be repeated.
Hence I felt that I have to reply to your post to make the developers know that there are members on this board who do not share your view. Usually I simply ignore such posts to prevent spamming the forums, but I think your repeated complaints (no Apps2SD, no 4.4 AOSP, no new developments) warrant a reply.
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you are both wrong, aosp daily builds are well, everyday, same with the official cm12 since, we get official, p.s. the current recovery in cm12 doesn;t flash, you have to downgrade the boot.img every time to the one from cm11 before updating

Lack of development!?why?

pixel's are some great phones.but its development?seems developers are not so intrested in our phones.not to forget devlopers like @Chainfire, @Dees_Troy , @flar2 we got the platform ready for the development but all the developments stopped at that same level.when comparing to oneplus 3 forum there is a lot of development over there.it's like we are left alone by the developers community.what makes our device not so likable to the developers?!.maybe because of all the complications that are involved in rooting,dual slots,etc?in this thread we can discuss what can be done to get in our beloved developers to our forum..
P.S.if you guys think it is a useless forum please forgive me and delete it.
Fyi there are already other posts of this same topic. The slowness basically boils down to the new partition setup and I bet once we get a good stable TWRP and devs figure out the issue they are running into with the gapps having to be integrated we will see more development. I know Dirty Unicorns has their rom out in testing on their g+ group and Pure Nexus is also in testing.
Development took a long time to get rolling on my last phone, the Nexus 5X, and that's a NEXUS DEVICE. There are a few new hurdles this time around but just have patience. I'm confident development will pick up. Dirty Unicorns is already out and UberStock is in testing. There are several kernels that have been released as well.
Here is a development discussion thread already in progress:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/pixel-development-t3511607
A flashable zip creation process is hindering some folks right now.
Alcolawl said:
Development took a long time to get rolling on my last phone, the Nexus 5X, and that's a NEXUS DEVICE. There are a few new hurdles this time around but just have patience. I'm confident development will pick up. Dirty Unicorns is already out and UberStock is in testing. There are several kernels that have been released as well.
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AOSip is in testing too!
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