As you know, the DPI on the Nexus 7 is 213, which is somewhat non-standard. This makes all the icons appear a bit blurry, especially noticeable on the phablet notification bar. I run mine on 240, which looks much better.
Have you ever noticed this, and does it bother you at all?
Paranoid Android @ 160dpi.
I honestly never noticed that as something odd, I just thought it was designed like that. App icons are a bit blurry, I have noticed that, but not all of them. Stock apps and some other too have very nice, crisp icons (Firefox for example, I won't check all of them)
I'm running stock ROM with stock DPI and I like it a lot. I don't care for tablet modes or anything, nexus 7 feels like a bigger version of phone android, which suits me a lot, since I use it in portrait mostly.
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Yes thats why I run tablet mode 180 dpi
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But 180 is also non-standard. The only standard DPIs are 160 and 240.
frobthebuilder said:
As you know, the DPI on the Nexus 7 is 213, which is somewhat non-standard. This makes all the icons appear a bit blurry, especially noticeable on the phablet notification bar. I run mine on 240, which looks much better.
Have you ever noticed this, and does it bother you at all?
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Within android on certain devices the different ui modes were triggered by the DPI changes. 320= phone 213= phablet and 160 was full tablet mode. Since Google has changed to the one mode to rule them all mentality I don't think it matters for much other then possible play store incompatibilities for the off standard DPI settings.
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cjsspape said:
Within android on certain devices the different ui modes were triggered by the DPI changes. 320= phone 213= phablet and 160 was full tablet mode. Since Google has changed to the one mode to rule them all mentality I don't think it matters for much other then possible play store incompatibilities for the off standard DPI settings.
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Well, the main thing is the icons. They were made with the standard DPIs in mind, and they just scale to match the others, which makes them look worse.
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Well, the main thing is the icons. They were made with the standard DPIs in mind, and they just scale to match the others, which makes them look worse.
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Yea that's true. I generally stick with 160 for everything. Even on my s3 I had it. It was a Lil small but manageable for me. I don't even see why some devices use 320 at all haha that should probably be an accessibility setting.
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cjsspape said:
Yea that's true. I generally stick with 160 for everything. Even on my s3 I had it. It was a Lil small but manageable for me. I don't even see why some devices use 320 at all haha that should probably be an accessibility setting.
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Well, newer devices have extremely dense displays, so they have to up the dpi just to keep everything the same size.
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But 180 is also non-standard. The only standard DPIs are 160 and 240.
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I use 180 as well, i just like the size of everything at 180, and my icons aren't blurry or anything..
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davisac said:
Paranoid Android @ 160dpi.
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Amen brother. Me too. PA is the canines clusters.
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Amen brother. Me too. PA is the canines clusters.
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I'd totally still be on Paranoid Android, but the hybrid settings no longer let me change the DPI higher than 213.
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But 180 is also non-standard. The only standard DPIs are 160 and 240.
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And 120 and 320. But yes, I find the DPI number odd. But I find no actual problem with it.
No. 10 cahrs
Paranoid Android 2.54 and i have no worry about that..in fact all my apps i have set to diffent dpi.
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I'd totally still be on Paranoid Android, but the hybrid settings no longer let me change the DPI higher than 213.
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I am still on 2.54 which i found the best and toyaly bug free and every app can be set from 160-360 dpi
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Mmmmm ..... I will try that 240 DPI value
Mine always runs at 160, I feel the default looks like a vision impaired mode. Galaxy Nexus is always set at 240.
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I'd totally still be on Paranoid Android, but the hybrid settings no longer let me change the DPI higher than 213.
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I wish paranoid stuck with the cyanogenmod base instead of vanilla aosp as well. The ROM was much better in 4.1.2 with cm. The 4.2 aosp version just feels clunky and less stable. CM fixed a lot of this Google broke in 4.2 and there settings organization is much better than paranoids at the moment. Paranoid is missing a lot of settings as well too.
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213 is actually tvdpi...lol.
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213 seems to be the magic number for nexus 7 flavour android, not tablet mode, but not phone mode either. 240 is phone DPI so the notification drawer fills the screen and there's no settings pull son on the right, it has then icon in the notification drawer or you can do the two finger pull down. Also on 240 you can't have multi-user as it thinks it is a phone and displays the appropriate lockscreen without the ability to change user.
I like 240 but the multi-user problem is a deal breaker.
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What does DPI mean and what does it do? I've seen it thrown around quite a bit and would like to now what it is all about. Also, what's a good DPI number for a tablet UI instead of the phone UI? Someone said 160 but that makes the display all weird...
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Amalehumanbeing said:
What does DPI mean and what does it do? I've seen it thrown around quite a bit and would like to now what it is all about. Also, what's a good DPI number for a tablet UI instead of the phone UI? Someone said 160 but that makes the display all weird...
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DPI stands for dots per inch. Changing the DPI in android doesn't change anything physically with the screen nor does it output at any different resolution. By telling android that your screen has a lower DPI, you are actually just making it think your screen size is bigger and 'tablet sized'. Therefore it will display the tablet interface. The DPI to get tablet interface will differ on each device but 160 on the Nexus 7 should do it.
Hope that helps!
anyone try changing dpi for 7.0 tab2?
the default resolution are too big.....
what getting good result ?
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keijames said:
anyone try changing dpi for 7.0 tab2?
the default resolution are too big.....
what getting good result ?
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You want tablet ui? Go 133 or lower, down to 130. If not, I think 140 is a nice resolution.
dictionary said:
You want tablet ui? Go 133 or lower, down to 130. If not, I think 140 is a nice resolution.
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sorry, what mean too big as the character size too big, I want higher density.
so the this case, higher numbers dpi. higher resolution.
who tried can share , experiences.
any screen capture can share ?
thanks
James
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keijames said:
sorry, what mean too big as the character size too big, I want higher density.
so the this case, higher numbers dpi. higher resolution.
who tried can share , experiences.
any screen capture can share ?
thanks
James
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Smaller numbers means higher density on Android. Try it
I run mine at 145/150 for a little added space but not too much.
Are you on stock or cm/AOKP?
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I run mine at 145/150 for a little added space but not too much.
Are you on stock or cm/AOKP?
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I am still at stock rom. I saw 7.7 tab has higher resolution, any idea what dpi?
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I am still at stock rom. I saw 7.7 tab has higher resolution, any idea what dpi?
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If you aren't going to listen and try what people are suggesting, then don't ask for advice. Seriously. LOWER your dpi to get a HIGHER density.
You can't change the actual resolution of the display. It is going to be 1024x600 (or 600x1024, depending on how you hold it) regardless of the DPI. All changing the DPI will do is change how images scale on the screen and in apps. If you change the DPI setting though, you are going to break market functionality. If you want to give yourself more room on the screen, lower the DPI setting. If you want stuff to be bigger, raise the DPI setting. However, doing either can lead to problems besides the market not working right.
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You can't change the actual resolution of the display. It is going to be 1024x600 (or 600x1024, depending on how you hold it) regardless of the DPI. All changing the DPI will do is change how images scale on the screen and in apps. If you change the DPI setting though, you are going to break market functionality. If you want to give yourself more room on the screen, lower the DPI setting. If you want stuff to be bigger, raise the DPI setting. However, doing either can lead to problems besides the market not working right.
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Yes, so correct.
Now I am just moved to 10.1 3g tab. So much better.
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Once again I will ask, because I haven't found anything yet.
Is it possible to modify the N7-launcher (or maybe Trebuchet, since I'm running CM 10.1) to match the look of the Nexus 10-launcher in landscape mode?
What I mean is this: http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/7189289/DSC_2121-hero_large_verge_super_wide.jpg
As you can see, in landscape it preserves the layout we only have in portrait.
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Once again I will ask, because I haven't found anything yet.
Is it possible to modify the N7-launcher (or maybe Trebuchet, since I'm running CM 10.1) to match the look of the Nexus 10-launcher in landscape mode?
What I mean is this: http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/7189289/DSC_2121-hero_large_verge_super_wide.jpg
As you can see, in landscape it preserves the layout we only have in portrait.
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McDV
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Apex launcher will do it in 720p using PA
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On Android 4.2, set DPI to 160. I don't recommend it, everything is so small.
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It doesn't look bad though if you have good eyesight
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VaderSKN said:
On Android 4.2, set DPI to 160. I don't recommend it, everything is so small.
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I knew that, but it really is small. Not the launcher, but the rest. I think you gave me an idea: If I use PA, I could just set Trebuchet to 160dpi - maybe that should work.
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McDV
Why would you want to strain your eyes using DPI 160?
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jonny68 said:
Why would you want to strain your eyes using DPI 160?
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I don't want to, that's why I don't simply set the density to 160 dpi!
Using PA works great. I've set everything to stock 213 dpi, except from the launcher. It is set to 160 dpi, 720p. That works the way it should and the smaller icons on the launcher are really ok.
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McDV
Is it possible to change the density to a lower density like the Galaxy Tab 10 density?
And only until i reboot?
I ask because some apps display it very small (CHIP Magazine, Weekend Magazine, ..) because of the high density.
So i want to change the density and afterwards i can read the magazines.
If i am finished i reboot and all is back to normal.
Root is available.
DPI!
I used this "https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marutian.dpichanger&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5tYXJ1dGlhbi5kcGljaGFuZ2VyIl0." To change DPI on my Nexus 10, Deafult DPI is 320 just incase you want to revert back to normal.
Remember not to change DPI "Numbers" From 320 to 100, Keep testing before you end up on one, Since this tread has nothing else to talk about. Let me know your DPI,.
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I used this "https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marutian.dpichanger&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5tYXJ1dGlhbi5kcGljaGFuZ2VyIl0." To change DPI on my Nexus 10, Deafult DPI is 320 just incase you want to revert back to normal.
Remember not to change DPI "Numbers" From 320 to 100, Keep testing before you end up on one, Since this tread has nothing else to talk about. Let me know your DPI,.
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Thanks, i will check this.
Which DPI do you use?
I want to have it like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 because the magazines should now be readable.
This is my go to density changer but you must be rooted
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwibHYubjNvLmxjZGRlbnNpdHkiXQ..
play with your numbers until magazines looks good for you.
hope that helps.
Hmm, does PA's (ParanoidAndroid I think) ROM allow per-app DPI? I believe it does, but I never tried it.
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This is my go to density changer but you must be rooted
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwibHYubjNvLmxjZGRlbnNpdHkiXQ..
play with your numbers until magazines looks good for you.
hope that helps.
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Not so good, after changing the DPI to, for example, 240 the tablet doesn't start anymore.
I have to reinstall it.
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Hmm, does PA's (ParanoidAndroid I think) ROM allow per-app DPI? I believe it does, but I never tried it.
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WOW this would be an great feature.
Have you PA installed on your tablet? If yes can you please try it out if it is working?
Stock
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Thanks, i will check this.
Which DPI do you use?
I want to have it like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 because the magazines should now be readable.
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I like to keep my tablet as stock as possible with root, I'm on 320 DPI but i recommend going to 260 if you are on a Nexus Device.
Density changer works fine. I usually set to 268 but yes I believe PA does support this
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Paranoid Android does indeed have per app dpi. Set each app to whatever you want it to be without effecting others.
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Paranoid Android does indeed have per app dpi. Set each app to whatever you want it to be without effecting others.
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Yes. This is your best bet. Makes customizing every app the way you want.
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Yes. This is your best bet. Makes customizing every app the way you want.
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Yes, but it does only FAKE the properties of a changed DPI, but does not really change the DPI from the tablet or phone.
And also if you change the the resolution.
The app means you have a lower or higher resolution, but it does not really change the resolution of the tab.
I need a real change of the resolution because the magazines are tiny in the middle of the screen.
It does not fill the whole screen because of the high resolution.
Hey everyone,
Was wondering if anyone had tested various DPI settings and have a list of working ones?
Gui on this phone is way to large.
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Drachnem said:
Hey everyone,
Was wondering if anyone had tested various DPI settings and have a list of working ones?
Gui on this phone is way to large.
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I've tried several: 280, 300, 320, 360, 400 & 420...all worked fine but you'd see issues in certain apps, and certain apps would jump into tablet mode (pretty sure that was on the lower ones, of course).
I stuck on 420 since it still shrinks things considerably down from the stock 480 but most apps don't have overlapping or other issues. The only app I've noticed an issue is the dialer, but not the phone on inbound or ongoing calls, just when you are dialing the number. You can still see the numbers and hit each with no problem, it's just shrunk up a little strangely. Other than that I'm loving 420 (no pun intended ). :good:
Awesome. What are you using to change dpi? On my note 2 with exposed you were able to choose dpi per application, anyone know if the module is working for that?
Can't remember the name of the mod.
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Found it.
In downloads, app settings. If you use this you can modify only apps you want so you don't have to worry about compatibility or force closing system gui.
I set Novo launcher lower and a few other apps.
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I changed the system ui to 420, along with Novo(remove shadow from desktop), and messaging and it looks perfect.
Fyi this doesn't break or distort the phone app.
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DutchDogg54 said:
I've tried several: 280, 300, 320, 360, 400 & 420...all worked fine but you'd see issues in certain apps, and certain apps would jump into tablet mode (pretty sure that was on the lower ones, of course).
I stuck on 420 since it still shrinks things considerably down from the stock 480 but most apps don't have overlapping or other issues. The only app I've noticed an issue is the dialer, but not the phone on inbound or ongoing calls, just when you are dialing the number. You can still see the numbers and hit each with no problem, it's just shrunk up a little strangely. Other than that I'm loving 420 (no pun intended ). :good:
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If you use the method above with exposed and app settings mod your phone app will be perfect.
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If you use the method above with exposed and app settings mod your phone app will be perfect.
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Thanks for mentioning that module. I hadn't taken the time to look through all the options as I downloaded and set up a ton through Wanam's module and was pretty satisfied. Really glad you mentioned it so I can get the one wrinkle ironed out. Appreciate it bro!
If anyone plays around with SystemUI DPI and sees it kick into tablet mode with the bottom navigation bar please do tell which DPI setting!
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If anyone plays around with SystemUI DPI and sees it kick into tablet mode with the bottom navigation bar please do tell which DPI setting!
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I read in other threads that you were really interested in getting the bottom bar style tab mode going, and I know I mentioned tablet mode above in my response but that was only in apps, the System UI never changed...and I believe the person who responded to you in the other thread is correct - 4.3 android doesn't have that built in to the system UI as an option.
For example, before my Note 3 I had an Nexus 4 and was running Paranoid Android - the developers had to basically make tablet mode from scratch to keep the traditional bottom bar style going after 4.3. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I thought you should know. Of course somebody could endeavor to build it like PA did or we could get PA at some point but without that I doubt you'll find your holy grail anytime soon.
Also guys you'll want the play store fix. Play store by default will his apps based on your dpi, This mood will fix that.
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If anyone plays around with SystemUI DPI and sees it kick into tablet mode with the bottom navigation bar please do tell which DPI setting!
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With exposed I have everything I need I tried the tablet ui it was OK. Prefer this.
Personally I'm waiting for that our cyanogen.
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Thanks for mentioning that module. I hadn't taken the time to look through all the options as I downloaded and set up a ton through Wanam's module and was pretty satisfied. Really glad you mentioned it so I can get the one wrinkle ironed out. Appreciate it bro!
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There's a mod for it in exposed. Tabletui trigger. Try that out.
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Drachnem said:
Hey everyone,
Was wondering if anyone had tested various DPI settings and have a list of working ones?
Gui on this phone is way to large.
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Yeah, I use either 320 or 360 mostly when I want to change an app. 320 can be a little bit too small sometimes, but right around that zone I think is ideal. Though I really haven't changed a ton of apps, mostly System, Chrome, reddit, Facebook, XDA, Go SMS that I can think of off the top of my head.
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I changed the system ui to 420, along with Novo(remove shadow from desktop), and messaging and it looks perfect.
Fyi this doesn't break or distort the phone app.
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Agreed, though I went as low as 360 for System, just because I wanted notifications to be shorter in the pull down so I can see more. I usually have several persistent ones in there now, so I want to be able to see all of my actual notifications as well.
See attached for notification size @ 360 dpi.
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Well said, my friend.