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Samsung Galaxy S2 (I9200) - Real or Fake

After the launch of Samsung Galaxy S, hardly after 15 days we noticed rumors started from a russian sites that its predecessor is already in development with following specs:
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- OS: Google 3.0 Gingerbread
- 4.3-inch 2-Super AMOLED display with 1280x720 resolution
- 1080p Full HD video recording
- 2 GHz processor
- 32 GB of internal memory, a slot for MicroSD memory cards up to 32 GB
- 1 GB RAM, 4 GB ROM
- Battery: 2000 mAh
- 8-megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video recording
- 3.5 mm audio jack
- A-GPS, Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor
- Google Service (Android Market, Google Search, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube)
some say that this phone will b available in 2011. other says this might hit the market on Christmas.
Guys. i want to know what do u think about it. is it true or fan gone crazy.

Looks like a real killer if we go by specifications alone. Looks extremely tempting to me. Not sure how real though.

and ive noticed most of rumors about samsung mobiles from russian sources turn out to be true. fingers crossed this time

fayeznoor said:
and ive noticed most of rumors about samsung mobiles from russian sources turn out to be true. fingers crossed this time
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I was going to bring up the Russian accuracy thing, they had an accurate Bada phone preview that included the Wave and the next announced devices.
I think this is ahead of their processor roadmap, and even so I still think whatever they use is likely to be designed and made in-house.
I think this is true or close to true, but part of that is definitely wishful thinking. If it's not completely true, it's probably close to right, and we will probably get an announcement around the holidays so they can get people to hold off on buying a new phone from a competitor. If this has a 2000 mAh battery I'd break my SGS contract to get one.

It's fake. 2Ghz ARM in a consumer device is a pipe dream right now.
Plus Samsung have invested heavily in ramping up production of the Galaxy S, they're not going to cripple sales just as they complete their roll-out.

I could see that happening in about a years time. Anyone could really guess those specs... I definitely wouldn't hold my breath for it though. Better to just get the GS now if you want a good phone.
Also I believe that 4.3 screen is too large for a phone, as it becomes almost unpocketable.

Read this:
http://briefmobile.com/samsung-i9200-galaxy-s2-is-probably-a-fake

it'll need to carry a pretty thick battery. or the battery life is pretty bad.
unless they miraculously came up with some better type of battery.

Definitely wouldn't come out for Christmas, it would canibalize i9000 sales. Just like TravUK said they'd probably work towards rolling out the i9000 to the max.
Regarding the battery, if they come up with new processor architecture or screen technology like some advanced super amoled, that could help a lot two

I would come right back to Android for a device like this or one like it made by HTC. Regardless, I have no doubt we are going to see much better devices from most of, if not all of the majors by Dec (or least full specs of soon to be released phones by Dec).
If you're stuck in a new 2 year right now and you can't or don't want to pay up to get out, you'll be feeling the burn in 4 months; such is the speed of phone tech these days.

I'll not be surprised if it's true.
In fact i was waiting for something like this to come out.
Unfortunately I needed a NEW phone NOW like yesterday, so from the crop of current available best phone was the SGS i9000, and that's what i purchased.
I'm quite sure if that 2Ghz phone makes it to the market next year, it'll cost over $1500+
That thing is essentially a PC inside a phone case.
4.3" screens are huge, most people will not like it in their pocket.
my old HTC Athena has a 5" screen and.... THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASON why i switched back to a slightly smaller screen like the one on the SGS i9000
anything larger than 4" is very uncomfortable in the front pocket of your jeans, or shirt as most of these phones now in days pack quite a bit of weight to it, although the SGS i9000 is OK, not too heavy.
in the past i choosed the HTC Athena for the 5" screen for movies and stuff, because i used to sit a lot in the Subway, and Buses, it was great, but it sucks when you want to go to say Theme park, and go on a roller coaster and stuff like that.
That's why i switched back to a smaller phone.
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After the launch of Samsung Galaxy S, hardly after 15 days we noticed rumors started from a russian sites that its predecessor is already in development with following specs:
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- OS: Google 3.0 Gingerbread
- 4.3-inch 2-Super AMOLED display with 1280x720 resolution
- 1080p Full HD video recording
- 2 GHz processor
- 32 GB of internal memory, a slot for MicroSD memory cards up to 32 GB
- 1 GB RAM, 4 GB ROM
- 8-megapixel camera with autofocus and HD video recording
- 3.5 mm audio jack
- A-GPS, Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor
- Google Service (Android Market, Google Search, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Talk, YouTube)
some say that this phone will b available in 2011. other says this might hit the market on Christmas.
Guys. i want to know what do u think about it. is it true or fan gone crazy.
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I'll probably sell the SGS i9000 and get that one when it comes out, if it's real, and when if it does actually hits the market

AllGamer said:
4.3" screens are huge, most people will not like it in their pocket.
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That's just not true for everyone. My Evo and it's 4.3 screen to me is the perfect phone size aside from it being a bit too thick. Take a look at the SGS and how it, like the iPhone do not use a lot of the front space above and below the screen. Now take a look at other phones such as the Evo and how it has a screen that takes up more of the front space. Holding the Captivate in hand along side the Evo yesterday and the difference in size is very small and really comes down to the Evo being thicker than I'd like. I can place the Evo in my shirt pocket just as I do with the iPhone now.

AshMa said:
That's just not true for everyone. My Evo and it's 4.3 screen to me is the perfect phone size aside from it being a bit too thick.
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that's the problem most of the phones that has larger than 4" screens are too thick, and heavy, both usually due the battery, and other internal components that makes up for the lost space inside the phone.
one of the reason why i like the SGS i9000 so much is because of that, i found it surprising for a 4" phone to be this thin, got tired of carrying a thick 5" phone with me all the time

AllGamer said:
that's the problem most of the phones that has larger than 4" screens are too thick, and heavy, both usually due the battery, and other internal components that makes up for the lost space inside the phone.
one of the reason why i like the SGS i9000 so much is because of that, i found it surprising for a 4" phone to be this thin, got tired of carrying a thick 5" phone with me all the time
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I'm guessing that you haven't picked up an Evo before? It was thick to me but most owners of it thought I was crazy for thinking its a little too thick. The Evo is thick because of the 4G radio and other components; NOT because of the screen size.
And come on now, a 5" phone like the one you had, or the new Dell are in a different class which doesn't include 4.3 inch devices like the Evo. Remember the size is measured from the bottom left corner to the top right corner of the screen. Seriously, Google for side by side images and you'll see what I'm talking about when I say that a 4.3" device like the Evo, is not much bigger than the SGS. BTW' The HD2 I have is a very thin phone yet it has the exact same 4.3" Evo screen......
My dream phone would look a lot like the Evo and be the same size only a bit thinner and have a flush camera lens (with a powered lens door) along with having the iPhone 4 screen (in 4.3" of course) and at least Android 2.2 while waiting for 3.0. 1ghz or 1.5 Samsung CPU, 16GB internal with SD card supprt and all the other goodies we all love.......

2Ghz CPU in a phone is not really viable as 99% of the time the phone sits on 200-400Mhz for power efficiency anyways. I'd rather see a dual core 1 to 1.2ghz CPU instead, so that twice the work is done in the lower, more power efficient Mhz range.

cheetah2k said:
2Ghz CPU in a phone is not really viable as 99% of the time the phone sits on 200-400Mhz for power efficiency anyways. I'd rather see a dual core 1 to 1.2ghz CPU instead, so that twice the work is done in the lower, more power efficient Mhz range.
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battery is rumored to be 2000mAh

I too had an HTC Athena, and loved it fiercely at the time when everyone else only had 2.8 inch screen tiny phones. If time is to go back to 2007 I'll still make the same choice. I'm into big screen phones which is in my mind the only real attraction of looking outside iphone.
Of course, today I would never want something as thick, big, and heavy as Athena anymore. Our yardstick for acceptability should change as technology moves forward rather than stay static.
The hugh battery need too drive such a PC (as one of us calls it) might be too heavy. So, I'll wait till the final spec to become available before deciding. By then there may be a 4.3 inch iphone too.

I'll start believing in 2GHz phones when anyone makes a 2GHz ARM SoC. Qualcomm just recently introduced a 1.3Ghz 45nm Snapdragon, and they were the first to bring a 1Ghz ARM-based SoC to market, so I doubt anyone is substantially ahead and about to release one that runs at twice the current speeds. ARM SoCs have definitely not advanced at such speeds in the past - they were hovering around 600MHz at peak for a long time.
Also, an updated version of Super AMOLED so soon, when it's only on a couple of devices? And along with it, a resolution that's higher than any other Android phone? I don't see this turning up soon.
So it has a CPU that doesn't exist yet, a screen that also doesn't exist yet, twice the RAM/ROM/storage and 25% more battery capacity than the Galaxy S, and an improved camera. Sounds like a wish-list to me.

natsirt789 said:
Read this:
http://briefmobile.com/samsung-i9200-galaxy-s2-is-probably-a-fake
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I don't think this is well written. First, the processor is definitely the most suspect thing, I'll give them that. However, the talk about the naming convention and the Samsung Super AMOLED, but I don't think they know much about the tech behind it. If they can make a AMOLED with 720p, then the SAMOLED wont be that much development, it's in their development process that they just eliminate a layer of touch and put it into the screen, the real hard part is making 720p, but they've been working on this for a long time, to think because they just shipped their first devices with it doesn't mean much to me, personally, but what do I know?
Saying 4.3 is the sweetspot, I can't disgaree with more, they are trying to compete with HTC and Moto and all the others, they could care less if 50% of the market wants 4", 10% want 3.5" 20% want 3.7" and 15% want 4.3"...they want to grow and they can afford to make 4.3" screens since they can use it in other devices in the future.
I won't get started on the naming convention, because that is subject to change and just a dumb point of arguing. Perhaps their naming convention is based on how long it took to make a follow up, then 9200 is perfect.
Also, to those who say this will cannibalize sales, they would be different class devices and this would be more profitable. They'd love to partially cannibalize sales in order to get the highest-end, most profitable device into as many hands as possible. HTC is growing and growing fast with this strategy, Samsung would love to emulate it, if they can.
All that said, again, I don't think this is really a done deal...but I think that article is a bit naive with it's logic and focusing too much on what Qualcomm is doing when Samsung and Qualcomm use different chips.

Mithent said:
I'll start believing in 2GHz phones when anyone makes a 2GHz ARM SoC. Qualcomm just recently introduced a 1.3Ghz 45nm Snapdragon, and they were the first to bring a 1Ghz ARM-based SoC to market, so I doubt anyone is substantially ahead and about to release one that runs at twice the current speeds. ARM SoCs have definitely not advanced at such speeds in the past - they were hovering around 600MHz at peak for a long time.
Also, an updated version of Super AMOLED so soon, when it's only on a couple of devices? And along with it, a resolution that's higher than any other Android phone? I don't see this turning up soon.
So it has a CPU that doesn't exist yet, a screen that also doesn't exist yet, twice the RAM/ROM/storage and 25% more battery capacity than the Galaxy S, and an improved camera. Sounds like a wish-list to me.
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I think they are mistaking a dual core processor with 2ghz. It will be 2 1ghz processors.
But don't be so sure about their can't be 2ghz processor as Samsung is on the cutting edge of ARM they might surprise us. At the specs stated it would have better Dpi or similar compared to the Iphone. So it is bound to need a lot more processing power.

[SGS 3] Discuss everything SGS 3 related here[Pictures,Specs N benchmark in thread]

Galaxy s3 is out!
Discuss everything sg3 related in this thread.
Info:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-preview-hands-on/
Performance:
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Specs:
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Dimensions: 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6mm
Wight: 133 grams
Display: 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED (1280×720) ; Pentile (no Plus);
Processor: Exynos 4 Quad @ 1.4Ghz for HSPA version
Rear Camera: 8MP Autofocus, Flash, Zero Lag Shutter BSI Image sensor
Front Camera: 1.9 MP HD, Flash, Zero Lag Shutter
Video: Full HD 1080p Recording and Playback
Storage: 16GB/32GB/64GB
Battery: 2,100mAh
Connectivity: GPS with GLONASS
Networking: 802.11n Wi-Fi, NFC, Bluetooth 4
Storage: Available in 16/32/64GB and supports microSD expansion
Other: 21Mbps HSPA, LTE supported and Micro SIM
Operating System: Android 4.0.4
GALAXY SIII UNPACKED:
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Talk about first impressions:
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SGS3 vs One X vs Galaxy Nexus vs SGS2:
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SGS3 Vs One X (more info):
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No fights, like HTC is better than Samsung.. You can for instance, discuss One X vs Sgs3, but stay on-topic and don't end up in a fight.
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I personally think it looks great. The small little features like wireless charging, a buzz if missed calls sound genius. Most people are overlooking these and looking straight at the stats. It's a great phone.
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great features and specs, but i think it is totally hideous. It got killed by the home button being odly shaped and the corners start to round before the top of the screen. Just my opinion though, its stilla nice phone

I like the Smart Stay, Android 4.0.4 and ICS-y TouchWiz (now we know why SGS2 get Gingerbread-y TouchWiz).

It isn't near as bad as many people are making it seem. It's just because of how big of a deal Samsung made it that makes it more of a let down. If this was just announced normally at an event like MWC then people wouldn't be having that big of an issue. It's just how it got over hyped with Samsung sending it out to be tested in secret boxes, no leaks for anything at all, it's own big press conference, etc. It was sickening reading in the One X section with all their biased opinions on a phone they've never even seen or tried first person. Give it a chance.

Features look neat, design is terrible.
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mcord11758 said:
Features look neat, design is terrible.
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Really, nice specs but it's hideous.

I gotta admit, It's a bit of a letdown. It looks a bit goofy but I have the feeling that a proper first hand hands on will turn my opinion around again, they are going for function over form with this one I guess. Also It has a pentile screen but seeing from videos and hearing description of reviewers is not enough to judge this category. Overall, I think the hate from many place will die down once it is released just like iPhone 4S, people are shouting, mocking, and taunting because it's only an iteration but suddenly no one is hating it anymore.

Specs great
Design Disappointing
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furt890 said:
I gotta admit, It's a bit of a letdown. It looks a bit goofy but I have the feeling that a proper first hand hands on will turn my opinion around again, they are going for function over form with this one I guess. Also It has a pentile screen but seeing from videos and hearing description of reviewers is not enough to judge this category. Overall, I think the hate from many place will die down once it is released just like iPhone 4S, people are shouting, mocking, and taunting because it's only an iteration but suddenly no one is hating it anymore.
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That's because no-one cares for the iPhone. They get what Apple gives them. Period. Android users do have a choice and over-hyped products that look like something blue and ugly crawled from the sea, made sex with a pebble and then gave birth to this thing, rarely stand a chance. It will still sell but won't be the success S2 was.
I really thought Samsung would put something nice on the table this time. Now I know why they didn't show it on MWC. Side by side with the HOX it would be a media disaster for them.
And all the fun we have with it at the HOX forum, is because the Samsung fanboys who never owned a HOX were saying for the past month "S3 will blow it out of the water" and now we saw what they meant. Noone wants to be in the same ocean with something as ugly as this thing. In a year and a half *maybe* there will be some apps that will run slightly better on the S3, but it will still be as ugly as it is today with the same ugly pentile screen.
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Cant go wrong with sammy.
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Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W33NPDutOcw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43qbwoHyCos
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnNkZyX7P7s
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZXpZELOWTY
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs62tfQs9SE
The New Samsung GALAXY SIII A GALAXY Unpacked 2012 Video LiveStream
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Galaxy S III vs. HTC One X
I wanna take this time to give a fair comparison of the Galaxy S III to HTC's flagship One X. Let me start by saying I am not a fanboy for any brand. I like any device that works, and works well. I choose my devices based on build quality, specs, and features. Software is never a dealbreaker for me, as I usually prefer to load custom ROM's (CM/AOSP mostly). That said, I must say I am quite impressed with the Galaxy S III so far.
In my own honest opinion (and without starting any fights), I felt like the original Galaxy S and even the GS2 were way overhyped. Yes, I agree that they are good devices, but I feel like they didn't really scream out "next gen" when they launched. With the specs on paper and even in real world benchmarks, the first 2 generations only just gave their Nexus counterparts a run for their money. At first glance, it looks like the GS3 is finally going to push the bar to the next level. Of course, HTC also has it's high-end contenders, and this time around it happens to be the One X.
Now, I am in the market for a new phone, and I was highly considering the One X. With all the hype leading up to the GS3, I thought about the previous two generations, and prematurely decided the third gen would end up like the first two. Well, I stand corrected. I could easily see myself buying a GS3, but I am still undecided. On one hand, I have always loved HTC's build quality, and the One X's features definitely fits my requirements. But on the other hand, the Galaxy S III has a few things HTC missed.
When it comes to raw horsepower, both devices are definitely packing a lot of power, so that leaves other things to consider. While I have yet to actually handle each phone in my own hands, my first impression about build quality would go to HTC's polycarbonate unibody design. I always prefer a body not made of plastic, but then again, the Gorilla Glass 2 on Samsung's flagship does give it an upper hand. So all in all, it's still a tie.
When it comes to the camera, HTC definitely wins here. Sure, both devices are 8MP, but as a photographer, I know that the lens makes all the difference. The HTC One X has a beautiful wide angle lens with f/2.0, and from what I've read, Samsung put more effort into the software, leaving it with just an average lens at best. HTC also spent a lot time perfecting their camera software, so they get bonus points for paying attention to all the small details.
Two other important factors for me are the ability to remove the battery and add an external microSD. Unfortunately, this is where HTC made their mistakes, and Samsung was right there to make it right. These are actually two of the biggest things that are giving me second thoughts about buying the One X, and opting for the GS3 instead.
But then I start thinking about the screen. Quality is more important to me than size, and while Samsung's may be a tenth of an inch bigger, it appears that HTC's Super IPS LCD2 wins here. Not to say Samsung's screen isn't good, but I was a bit surprised to see they forgot the Plus part of their HD Super AMOLED. Maybe they did this to leave some room for improvement when another variant of the GS3 comes out in the next 3-4 months. Who knows...
Other than a few other minor differences that could go either way, one final important feature is the battery itself. We all know smartphones are power hungry, so it goes without saying that Samsung's removable 2100mAh gives it an upper edge. Hopefully, it's enough to keep the phone charged for at least a couple of days. HTC's 1800mAh may also last a couple days, partially thanks to the Tegra 3's fifth power-saving core. But when it comes right down to it, 2100mAh simply sounds better. And did I mention it's removable?
This leaves me stuck with a hard decision to make. I'm sure I'll be happy either way, but in both cases, there will be some sacrifices to make, yet there will always be the satisfaction of having a powerful device nonetheless. You win some, you lose some.
I'm also considering a new tablet as well, so if only the Asus Padfone would come out. That would make this decision even harder!

I wish I had enough money to buy both

Love it
Gonna buy it !
Thats all i have to say!!
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Awesome specs, design ain't so good. But for christ sake, what a hell of a specs.
I'd give my someone's left nut to have it

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mcord11758 said:
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Really, nice specs but it's hideous.
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Had the original SGS and was originally holding out for the SGS3, and opted to go the HOX when it came out given the specs and couldn't be bothered waiting for the SGS3, and timing with my contract coming up for renewal.
S-Voice - Interested there's finally competition to Siri, but something I wouldn't use anyway.
Wireless Charging - Slow and a novelty.
Vibrate when pick up phone for notifications - Very neat, but if I'm picking up my phone, 9/10 I'll be looking at it anyway
Eye-focus thing - Very neat, only big feature I would quite like.
Now so glad I didn't wait around for it.

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I guess all those leaked fake sgs 3 pics raised my hopes too high
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GS3 vs One X - Can you handle the Truth?

The most beautiful minimalist phone ever produced imho, Kudos to Samsung.
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Superior R&D
Superior Audio Codec
- Wolfson Micro WM1811
Superior Video Codec
- "The SGS3 is using among the best encode parameters I've seen on a smartphone to date - 17 Mbps H.264 high profile with CABAC. - Anandtech
Superior Amoled Screen
- While text all look the same at above 300PPI [unless you view your screen with a microscope at 200X] in Multimedia Samoled is King.
Superior CPU and GPU
Infinitely better Eye Tracking! Removable Battery and SD Card Slot...er wait lol
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone [seems to be "normal"]
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
No Locked Bootloaders EVER, [HTC, don't blame AT&T]
No "First unit: Flash lens was missing. Returned for a replacement. - rpritch" wth
No "I struggled to buy a defect-less One X unit"
Superior Software & Features... not beats
Touch Wiz vs Sense
Touchwiz was one of the first if not the first to implement hardware acceleration and is one of the smoothest most resource friendly launchers. Back with gingerbread, touchwiz browser was pure butter....one of the smoothest i've ever used and definitely still one of the smoothest i've used. It's also battery efficient etc....
Sense on the otherhand is a resource hog, not very battery friendly, and mostly just looks good. Touchwiz is ugly, but there's a huge dev community for the galaxy phones so getting rid of it and flashing AOSP or anything was super simple.
As for user friendly, touchwiz is probably one of the simplest to use. Also looks kinda like iOS buttons which might help a bit but w/e. In terms of out of the box performance, samsung software > HTC software
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- Anandtech Bench -
What surprises me in these benchmarks is how close the GS2 performs to the One X. Disappointing on One X' part if you ask me.
As we showed in our SGS3 performance preview, the handset is, as Samsung described it, capable of posting "superlative" benchmark numbers with its 1.4 GHz Exynos 4 Quad SoC. It goes without saying that even with TouchWiz running atop Android 4.0.4, the SGS3 is butter smooth, everywhere. - Anandtech
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June can't come soon enough!

boodies said:
No Build Quality Issues
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The One X has been in available around the world for a month now, and none of those are mass reported problems. Since the SIII is not released yet or even reviewed, I can't see how you think SIII will be problem free.
I like the screen on the One X over my Note (same amoled as SIII), the colour are more accurate and its much brighter in direct sunlight. As for CPU/GPU, both are more than powerful enough to make no difference for day to day use.
Overall, apart from removable battery and micro sd card, SIII and One X are too very close to call. I think both phone will do well over the next few months. The SIII is more suited to the power users, but One X have the WOW factor the SIII lacks, which will do will with general public who don't really care about removable battery or expendable storage.

Bigmille said:
Since the SIII is not released yet or even reviewed, I can't see how you think SIII will be problem free.
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No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Flex Issues - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Things rattling inside phone - Never Happened and I trust Sammy R&D
No Screen Flickering - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
No Stuttering Videos - Proven Exynos CPU and Video Player Both made in-house by Samsung for superior cooperation.
There, happy? And yes I'd like both do to well and push Android further but this is a nerd tech phone forum, why not have some fun ^_^

Threads like this remind me a little bit about Top Gear, where they say a car can't be cool if you have to explain WHY it's cool.
With the one x, you can just show it to someone, and they will be "wow, that's cool". With the SGS3, they will think it looks ugly/bland but may be won over after you spend 5 mins telling/showing them why it's cool.
And yes, phones are all about being cool
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boodies said:
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Flex Issues - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Things rattling inside phone - Never Happened and I trust Sammy R&D
No Screen Flickering - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
No Stuttering Videos - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
There, happy? And yes I'd like both do to well and push Android further but this is a nerd tech phone forum, why not have some fun ^_^
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The htc one x is a pos.
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diehard2222 said:
The htc one x is a pos.
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It's not a POS that's for sure. But there are some real issues and I don't think people should ignore them. Lets keep things a little more pro brother lol.

The rattling sound that people complain about is when they press a button and it vibrates. They think the sound of the vibration is a rattle
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*Closes eyes and shakes head* -Noooo! Now you're ruining my world! I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

boodies said:
The most beautiful minimalist phone ever produced imho, Kudos to Samsung.
Superior R&D
Superior Audio Codec
- Wolfson Micro WM1811
Superior Video Codec
- "The SGS3 is using among the best encode parameters I've seen on a smartphone to date - 17 Mbps H.264 high profile with CABAC. - Anandtech
Superior Amoled Screen
- While text all look the same at above 300PPI [unless you view your screen with a microscope at 200X] in Multimedia Samoled is King.
Superior CPU and GPU
Infinitely better Eye Tracking! Removable Battery and SD Card Slot...er wait lol
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone [seems to be "normal"]
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
No Locked Bootloaders EVER, [HTC, don't blame AT&T]
No "First unit: Flash lens was missing. Returned for a replacement. - rpritch" wth
No "I struggled to buy a defect-less One X unit"
Superior Software & Features... not beats
Touch Wiz vs Sense
- Anandtech Bench -
June can't come soon enough!
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The real question is can *you* handle the truth? The truth that CPU benchmarks are a pile of useless s.it that have nothing to do with real life usage experience? The truth that tegra optimized apps will always run better on the one x and there are no whatever-samsung-called-their-cpu optimized apps and won't be for quite some time? The truth that HOX has more beautiful screen than the pentile SAMOLED? The truth that difference in performance *might* be felt after a year and a half when both these phones will be old news? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the downright ugliness of the sg3? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the cheapness of the shiny plastic? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the inferior screen? The truth that after that year and a half finally passes the only apps that will show any difference will run bad on the sg3 and worse on the HOX because both will be outdated?
Can you?
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If I get a SIII I hope I don't have to see useless threads like this in this forum for the next year.

Thread will be closed i am sure in a while..These threads are not necessary. No need to make yourself feel good bro just because you are getting a new toy. Enjoy your new toy and no need to bash others just because they made another choice..Both phones are great and both have their own good points. Even though most are just gimmicks from the iphone (yes S-Voice just a copy from Siri) and really even though i love the features of the phone it still does not cry out innovating from some parts of it..anyways if i did not had my one x i would be going for the s3 cause i still believe it is a good phone but the issues you are stating about the one x not everyone has it..so best go and do your research again. Plus each time i press the water lockscreen it will probably make me wanna go and have a leak.. and on that note

First & foremost I'm an Android Fan & not brand specific and will go with who ever I believe will give me the best end user experience.
I like the One X, I also think it has a very nice display, I like sense as a UI & the unit feels nice in the hand, play with my sisters one most days even to the point where I even ordered one, which I then cancelled due to the impending SIII launch.
Now the SIII is here I have ordered one, mainly due to the larger replaceable battery, full size sim (I have other network contracts) and Micro SD Support. These three things alone kill the HOX stone dead for me and I would guess quite a number of others who have multiple handsets.
I think seriously looks a very subjective thing, but when fashion fades only style remains. In the most part these things normally end up in some sort of protective casing which renders the looks aspect moot in most cases.
In 18months time, when the you have stopped looking at it aesthetically and just use it as a day to day communication,entertainment and productivity tool, what is really going to matter?
To me it will be.
Ease of use, battery life, reliability, compatibility & decent brightness in daylight.
I'm I really going to care about the differences in terms of Screen Technology's on a day to day basis, I doubt it, its a phone at the end of the day as long as the display is good that's all the really matters personally. Not for the least part there will be something better by then the anyway.
They are both really good High end devices which will hopefully push Android even further in front of a certain fruit company.
Just my 2p

I noticed Wolfson on the your spec list. This is great! Sound quality is a major factor for me, and keeps me on my Galaxy S (AT&T Captivate). With the return of Wolfson, I may be able to upgrade this summer when it comes to AT&T.

tkolev said:
The real question is can *you* handle the truth? The truth that CPU benchmarks are a pile of useless s.it that have nothing to do with real life usage experience? The truth that tegra optimized apps will always run better on the one x and there are no whatever-samsung-called-their-cpu optimized apps and won't be for quite some time? The truth that HOX has more beautiful screen than the pentile SAMOLED? The truth that difference in performance *might* be felt after a year and a half when both these phones will be old news? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the downright ugliness of the sg3? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the cheapness of the shiny plastic? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the inferior screen? The truth that after that year and a half finally passes the only apps that will show any difference will run bad on the sg3 and worse on the HOX because both will be outdated?
Can you?
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Here is my opinion. I think they both will be winner. I'm not saying that to make everybody else happy, its cause its the truth. Here are facts:
The one x is the best looking device without a shadow of a doubt. It looks sexy, the screen is amazing, it is really a great looking device. But unfortunately it has horrible battery life, screen issues, lag and stutter and sense while it looks beautiful is still a heavy skin. ( about the issues if you don't believe me go check the one x forum). Still it has great potential and WILL get lots of dev support so in a couple of months its gonna be a beast!
Now the Galaxy S3, honestly I like the design a lot. It isn't as beautiful as the one x but still , people are saying that it looks awesome in person. Then you got so many pros, exynos 4 quad on board , expandable storage, removable battery all in a device that is thinner than the one x. Anadtech and many others have reported the phone to be buttery smooth as expected. On top of that the phone should be easy to root ( no S-off bull crap required) all the new features Samsung introduced look great. Dev support is gonna be HUGE just like the one x will but with a boot loader easy to unlock. My personal choice is the S3 cause after I was blown away by the S2 , Samsung has won me over as a loyal customer. They both will b great especially when development takes off but I will give the edge to the s3 cause it is a performer!!!

We dont need another SGS3vsHTC whatever thread.
All general chat goes here

[DEBATE] What do you want to see in the next Galaxy S IV?

Since apparently the S IV is only a few months away...
I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread, about the expectations and demands of the public.
Would you like the next Galaxy S to retain it's current size? Or would you like it smaller or bigger?
Do you care for a faster processor or more ram? Or is the current generation already an overkill?
Would you like to see a new shape and new materials used in the SGS4?

same screen size (4.8" with oled)
exynos 5250
2gb ram
13megapx samsung camera
2500mah battery
hdmi+micro usb ports (without need hdmi-microusb adapter)
software up to date

wo-hoo! ( in Texas it would be a Yeehaw !) & wha-haha!
well to be honest, on my side i will keep my S3 at least 16-18 months from now, or at least until that rumored Galaxy S IV will become way cheaper than the initial release price
and that - because my S3 serves me damn well so far
Period
PS :screen with OLED only and not super AMOLED?

EdgaBimbam said:
same screen size (4.8" with oled)
exynos 5250
2gb ram
13megapx samsung camera
2500mah battery
hdmi+micro usb ports (without need hdmi-microusb adapter)
software up to date
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This, and Samsung need to ditch Touchwiz (I mean the whole GUI, not just the launcher). It's not doing them any favours now.
Pure Android would be much better, much cleaner and modern. More likely to tempt the "should I get a Samsung because the iPhone 5 is so dull?" crowd.

Flexible display
3day battery
must comply with some military standards for being dust, water and shock resistant
and should not have a considerable delay to get os update

sjgore said:
This, and Samsung need to ditch Touchwiz (I mean the whole GUI, not just the launcher). It's not doing them any favours now.
Pure Android would be much better, much cleaner and modern. More likely to tempt the "should I get a Samsung because the iPhone 5 is so dull?" crowd.
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yeh because touchwizz is making quad core cpu and 2gb rams joke. TW isnt well optimized+not so much features. I would be inlove if samsung would use something like apex launcher with all those features.

EdgaBimbam said:
same screen size (4.8" with oled)
exynos 5250
2gb ram
13megapx samsung camera
2500mah battery
hdmi+micro usb ports (without need hdmi-microusb adapter)
software up to date
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This plus :
Full HD Super Amoled+
SD card support
Removable battery
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1. 4.8 is ideal. If I want bigger, I can still buy Note series...I do not want any phone bigger as that...
2. I want all the things which SGS3 already has plus more RAM, better proc, better resolution screen and a lot better battery live somewhere near the battery live of my old Nokia 3310 LoL
3. Should be cheaper LoL ...the €599 price tag for the SGS3 pre-order (I bought it with pre-order) back then in June hurts...
4. Dedicated micro-HDMI port...not via MHL or something else...
5. Throw away TouchWiz!

I'm going to keep my S3 until the new 2013 Nexus phone comes I reckon so I'm not too fussed about the S4.
Just as long as Samsung keeps the two main reasons why I bought an S3 over a One X:
1. microSD card slot (love that my phone has 80GB of storage)
2. removable battery/large battery capacity
All the S4 really needs is amazing screen, amazing battery life and amazing storage option with a CPU and GPU to match. It's mostly the software side that I want to see more of a difference. Less Touchwiz, more Vanilla but still retain some of those useful Samsung motion features and improve upon them. More implementation of NFC sharing capabilities and a big push of touch payments by courting banks and organisations like VISA.

IMHO, Samsung knows the current size is maximum. When they say 5 inch screen, they may think of zero bezel frame so the whole size does not change or may be smaller.
I wish they keep the s3 goodies such as notification light, ext sd, removable batt, etc.
The case should be upgraded to ceramic. Yea.
Exinos 5250 or 5450 would be great.
True world phone please so we can use any carrier in the world with this s4 one device!
Bigger battery is always welcome. I hope they use the latest battery tech. so the size remains yet the capacity is doubled.
I believe the S4 will be a real monster. I feel that Samsung is determined to piss off apple with this.
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Holographic capabilities - I want a virtual stripper .
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I'd like to see them just copy the current iPhone design, they'll get accused of it anyway.
That way we can have a decent phone with a massive selection of covers and accessories!

Wish there will be a better casing ceramic not plastic but knowing samsung it will be plastic..also battery life is great on samsung devices (although i flashed li7 and it is poor but whatever) faster cpu wont be necessary as well as gpu but ram should be increased.. notification light is welcome as well but idk what should i buy next year hopefully u will try some htc phone or even nokia windows phone..
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I would also like a much more professional feeling weight/texture/material to the case. And please, show a MF to Apple and give us a more rectangular sleek design - not the oval soft edged design of the S3. I want my S4 to even 'look' cutting edge!
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I hate the Touch Wiz UI as well.
Whatever happened to that report long time back about Samsung hiring CyanogenMod founder, Steve Kondik??
Didn't that report come out sometime around Aug last year?
I stopped following that story after a while so sorry if I missed out on any big news about it after.
Can that be the big secret coming out with the S4?

More battery
ram 2gb
Screen not bigger than this
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I want bigger battery, more ram, and OLED. Nothing else. Though i wont get S4, because I'm on 2 year contract.
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Better build quality.
For other things i dont care, samsung will do everything like it should...

Good built quality. Like WAVE - I.
And more ram,
Please don't increase screen size anymore.

Bigger capacity battery, more important thing is unique body frame like Moto, HTC & Nokia.
Nothing to say except above two features.
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I seriously want it to look like this w/o the stylus of course.

Z5 Ultra.. IFA 2015

Hey guys.. I read this article and it makes me excited about The successor or our beloved Togari. Chrck this out..Sony Xperia Z5 release date, price and specs: Coming in September, also in Compact and Ultra models
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/sony-xperia-z5-release-date-price-specs-3619162/
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Sony's feed app "Socialife"
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sony.nfx.app.sfrc

http://www.gsmarena.com/xperia_z5_tipped_to_launch_in_september-news-12915.php

jsonexe said:
Hey guys.. I read this article and it makes me excited about The successor or our beloved Togari. Chrck this out..Sony Xperia Z5 release date, price and specs: Coming in September, also in Compact and Ultra models
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/sony-xperia-z5-release-date-price-specs-3619162/
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Sony's feed app "Socialife"
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sony.nfx.app.sfrc
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Except for the obvious prediction that the next xperia is called z5 the rest of the article is purely speculative with no source (credible or not) mentioned. It more looks like the author just put together a wish list of his own. Honestly I grew tired of getting excited about these baseless prediction just to be disappointed when the actual release date came.
If you think about it logically, except for a very small group of geeks (myself happily included) who admire the engineering marvel that xzu is, most ordinary people ridicule this phone. The reaction I get from other people when they see me with the phone is that it is way too small to be a practical tablet and way too big to be a practical phone. That is why despite its excellent specs it is selling for around 250 dollars these days and no one is rushing to deplete the stocks.
Sony needs to revive its mobile business very badly and has to focus on the smallest number of investments with the highest return. Look at tablet z4 for example which anyone immediately falls in love with. And on the phone front it should follow a two tier premium model that was started by Samsung with the s series and note series, and copied by Apple as iPhone 6 and iPhone 6s plus, which has proved to be a super successful model in the United states and elsewhere. Another ultra phone has no place in such a line up, as sad as it may be for me and others in this forum.

Sorry to disappoint, but the next ultra will most likely have 6" display. the reason for it is obvious: much more pants pocket friendly. no brainer. most people aside of a minority of hardcore mobile geeks/some woman who carry a purse 24/7 who want larger display then 6" will buy a tablet. they want profit in 2016 and they want to rival mpte 5. 6s plus, lg new phablet, etc. and not some negligible chinese tablets with phone capabilities. there is no other way. it is a very good expected and wanted move for sony and all should be happy, including sony fans aside of minority of people who actually use z ultra as daily driver. most people beg sony to make a flag phablet that they actually never made (full flagship spec, more pocket friendly, etc.).

amirprog said:
Sorry to disappoint, but the next ultra will most likely have 6" display. the reason for it is obvious: much more pants pocket friendly. no brainer. most people aside of a minority of hardcore mobile geeks/some woman who carry a purse 24/7 who want larger display then 6" will buy a tablet. they want profit in 2016 and they want to rival mpte 5. 6s plus, lg new phablet, etc. and not some negligible chinese tablets with phone capabilities. there is no other way. it is a very good expected and wanted move for sony and all should be happy, including sony fans aside of minority of people who actually use z ultra as daily driver. most people beg sony to make a flag phablet that they actually never made (full flagship spec, more pocket friendly, etc.).
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I agree. I don't know if its gonna be 6" (personally would prefer 6.2" if we can't have 6.4" again) but it will be smaller. The reason is simple: ZU didn't sell as well as they wanted.
Although I would argue if they do not release similar flagship phones every half a year the ZU would have position itself better to compete directly with the Galaxy Notes. But it seems they're still following the same business model they will blame on the size of the ZU being unpopular among consumers.

Most consumers and sony fans voice is loud and clear: "sony! make a phablet flag, give it the best spec - every feature of what the main size flag has and more, give it some simple software features to make good use of a large display like 2 windows mode, make it as pocket friendly as possible, don't make the display larger then 6", height dimensions should be as short as possible to further make it easier to carry in pants pocket". this is what i hear and read in the last 2 years. imagine such device with the beautiful sexy new design that only sony know to design, 6" JDI/AUO QHD display, 2 front speakers, latest camera sensor imx230, beefy 4000-4500 mAh battery, etc. *day dreaming*

6 inch display? Too small. It will be a tablet for me then. The Z3 TC or a Z5 TC is on my list of potential successors if they just introduce a 6 inch "Ultra".
I use my device for reading, browsing and so forth, which make 6 inch or smaller display inconvenient and a 10 inch tablet too big. Sweetspot is between 6.5-8 inches and devices smaller than 6.44 is not interesting at all, regardless of specifications due to a way too small display making the general use more uncomfortable (increased need for zooming and so on).

I agree. z3tc is definitely a good upgrade from z ultra and its true successor imo. there is no news of sony working on a new tc for 2h so its the best small tablet option. http://www.amazon.com/XPERIA-TABLET...=1437248308&sr=8-1&keywords=z3+tablet+compact

I'm all for phablets, but... 8in is too much even for me to be a phone that I can carry... 7in with no border would be ideal... Make a new ultra already sony...

Meh, I will always stick to at least 6 coll phones since the Z ultra and the only thing I care about is price and micro SD support.
If somone goes the route of samsung and starts to refuse microSD slots, **** them. Everything that is for the mainstream is for retards. Its nothing for a serious person .
The moment a serious Ubuntu phone comes, with decent specs, I would swtich immediately. I am through with these so called "mainstream" phones.

Z5 can't be the 820 if it's in September. Qualcomm roadmap says December for that chip's release.
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Makes no sense to put that kind of $ into a phone at 6"4. 6" is a proven seller.
(unfortunately).
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Letv is bringing this to the US. 6"3 device. High quality build. http://www.geekbuying.com/item/LeTV...beu5t9M_XE_RS1obaybyCOHzHtXbbY8_lkaAqYe8P8HAQ

rockky said:
Makes no sense to put that kind of $ into a phone at 6"4. 6" is a proven seller.
(unfortunately).
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Letv is bringing this to the US. 6"3 device. High quality build. http://www.geekbuying.com/item/LeTV...beu5t9M_XE_RS1obaybyCOHzHtXbbY8_lkaAqYe8P8HAQ
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I was eyeing this since it was announced but I affraid it does not has the required US lte bands, especially T Mobile.

rockky said:
Makes no sense to put that kind of $ into a phone at 6"4. 6" is a proven seller.
(unfortunately).
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Who said do 6.4 again... ? Evolve and do 6.8 or 7.0...

wingzero said:
I was eyeing this since it was announced but I affraid it does not has the required US lte bands, especially T Mobile.
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Not to mention that it will have ZERO community support, ZERO customer support in case of faults.
I'm hoping and waiting with my finger crossed for September.
I just feel Sony will not disappoint this time.
If the real news is just the 4K screen, with SD810 etc etc, I'll just wait a little bit more until it gets in the hands of various sites/blogs, wait for their impressions.
When I bought the Ultra I went on and read every single hands on, review or article regarding it, and every single one, despite dragging it down on measures (too big to do this, to large to do that etc), every single one was impressed on how much a beast was this phone.
Now this is what I want for the next Ultra. To be a freaking Unicorn. I don't give a s#it if they sell one or one million, I'll be the first in line to get it. [emoji12]
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i hope sony waits for the SD820 in the next Zultra. i will not buy nothing with the SD810. Perhaps we have to wait to new phones with helios X20

Here's my Z5+ Concept
my specs for this concept
5.7" 4K 3840 x 2160 IPS Display
773 Ppi Pixel Density
Corning Gorilla Glass 4
21.5MP Rear Camera 1/2.3" G Lens Dual Tone LED Flash
Hybrid AF
Exmor RS™ Sensor For Image & Video
Full HD Video Recording 1080p + 4K
Front Camera 13MP Exmor RS HDR 1080p With Dual Tone LED Flash
Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 MSM8996
NFC
Dual Front-facing stereo Speakers
Bluetooth v4.1
nanoSIM
Adreno 530
6.1 mm
150 grams
4GB LPDDR4 RAM
Android v5.1.1 Lollipop
Internal 64/128 GB Storage
3600mAh Battery
Waterproof & Dust Tight (IP65/68)
Exposed microUSB port
Fingerprint Scanner + Heart Rate Sensor On The Power Button
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5.7... ? 3600mAh... ? Fail.

6 inches could be fine IF Sony introduce a Z5 Tablet Compact with similar features. I have tried to fit the Z3 TC in my pockets and it works well so a device that size is a working backup plan if it would turn out that the next "Ultra" is a degradation of screen estate.
The next Ultra should have minimum a 6.44 inch display or up to 7 inch in order to qualify as a proper successor. A smaller 6 incher would be too much of a step back since it would require a lot of extra zooming when reading.
It would be great if Sony would make a keyboard flip cover as well and also further development of stylus support where they got on the right track with the "graphite pen" capable Ultra screen.
If the increased size of the device can be used to facilitate proper cooling of a Snapdragon 810, it could be an OK choice but if it turns out that the heating issues from the Z3+ is there, then it would be a huge drawback from the Ultra, which haven't overheated a single time during those two years I had it.

wingzero said:
I was eyeing this since it was announced but I affraid it does not has the required US lte bands, especially T Mobile.
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Why do you think it won't support US LTE?
I'm pretty sure there will be a US variant on this flagship series.