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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
Nice! Ill test that later today
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charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
I know but there were many threads about battery not charging up to 100% so I just decided to help a little)
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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can you provide more info on this?
alexvega said:
can you provide more info on this?
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It wont shorten it thats BS.
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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Charging to 100% will not shorten the battery life if any Lithium Ion or lipo battery, but if you discharge past 5% will kill the battery faster. This I know from using the lipo battery's on my big RC Helicopters and that the ESC's have a low voltage cutoff on them to keep from doing damage to the battery. All lipo batterys are built the same so before someone says it is not the same, YES it is!!!
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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
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Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
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hopefully an OTA will fix these issues.
Does anybody have access to a Moment,Instinct HD, Behold II? Charge your Nexus S to 95% and then put battery in one of these phones and see what battery reading you get.
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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Doesn't work...sorry.
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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ive done this and i never reach 100%. the highest i have gone is 98%.
This is curious. I usually pick my phone in the morning and read some tweets and news before I get up, while the phone is still connected to the charger. When I 1st take it it has about 96-97% but after I use the phone for some time it goes up to 98 or 99%, but never got 100%.
does that 5% really make that much of a difference? maybe it helps the battery to not go to 100%, maybe it doesn't...
but are you really using the battery down to 5% before charging it where it makes that huge of a difference?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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any real input on this? or just an assumption?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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Let me guess... Google told you first?
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guys is better to charge the phone before it is <5% or not?
if you leave the screen on while charging, you can charge it to 100%, i do it a few times a week. as soon as the screen goes off over 95%, it will stop charging, at that point just unplug it, then plug it back in and leave the screen on. itll get to 100%. have patience, itll just takes some time.
Is it possible to ruin my phone's battery due to overcharging? I charge my phone overnight no matter what percentage it is on, I still charge it I know this is bad, but can this ruin the battery? thanks
You should be able to charge as long as you want w no problems as long as you're doing this in a cool or room-temp environment (rather than say leaving it alone in a car charging at high noon w AC off, windows down & no sun shades on the windshield). If you have your phone charging in hi-temp conditions too long\often your battery swells & you get gradual irreparable damage.
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Is it possible to ruin my phone's battery due to overcharging? I charge my phone overnight no matter what percentage it is on, I still charge it I know this is bad, but can this ruin the battery? thanks
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If u make a correct use of your battery it won't get damaged. Extreme overclock, overvolt, etc can ruin your battery, but if u charge it every day because ur battery is empty it's ok, and u won't have any problem.
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If u make a correct use of your battery it won't get damaged. Extreme overclock, overvolt, etc can ruin your battery, but if u charge it every day because ur battery is empty it's ok, and u won't have any problem.
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what if I charge it eventhough the battery isnt empty?
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what if I charge it eventhough the battery isnt empty?
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You should be fine. Just look out for power surges!
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You should be fine. Just look out for power surges!
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thanks man =) thanks to the both of you who replied
Normally, when your phone reaches 100 % full battery level, it stops charging and starts discharging. At around 95 % level, it starts charging again. This all takes a toll on the battery, especially over a long period.
If your phone's battery is at or above 50%, leave it alone or turn it off for the night.
I have an external battery pack for use during the day time, just for situations like this.
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Been thinking of asking this for some time. Thanks OP for posting and big thanks to those who replied.
jamesc760 said:
Normally, when your phone reaches 100 % full battery level, it stops charging and starts discharging. At around 95 % level, it starts charging again. This all takes a toll on the battery, especially over a long period.
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I don't think that's correct. It should switch to a trickle charge, which won't harm the battery, not stop charging completely.
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What I spend a lot of time charging the phone through USB? I leave it on charge at work plugged into the computer through USB as there are no free plug sockets. My battery just seems to be getting worse and worse over the last couple of months... Could this be the problem?
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Is it possible to ruin my phone's battery due to overcharging? I charge my phone overnight no matter what percentage it is on, I still charge it I know this is bad, but can this ruin the battery? thanks
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It'll automatically stop charging itself when it's full, it's impossible to overcharge a modern cell phone battery these days. They are a bit more computerized than the old nicad batteries from back in the day. It's actually healthier to give lithium batteries partial charges at a time instead of draining to zero percent and charging to 100 percent.
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What I spend a lot of time charging the phone through USB? I leave it on charge at work plugged into the computer through USB as there are no free plug sockets. My battery just seems to be getting worse and worse over the last couple of months... Could this be the problem?
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I doubt it. Could be a faulty battery, but more likely to be apps draining it in the background. Install BetterBatteryStats and see what is using the battery.
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i'm using app called full battery & theft alarm. i always charge my phone during sleep, and this app will wake me up to disconnect the charger if the battery is full.
i hope this will prolong the battery life
How do you know your battery is getting worse if it's always charging?
My personal experience is the less you charge it, the better it will perform. However, when you DO charge it, make sure you are less than 30% battery and charge it to 100% before removing it.
For me it's easy, I basically charge my phone at night when I go to bed and that's it. I easily get through an entire day on this phone, though I admit I usually only have about 2-1/2 hours screen on time (I mostly use my tablet when I am at home)
I generally try not to charge my note 2 overnight. I want this battery to be healthy as long as possible, so I don't want it to sit at high voltages for too long.
Normally my note 2 is around 80 percent when I go to sleep so I don't plug it in at night, I just plug it in in the morning for an hour before going to work. It reaches 100 and then I remove it.
The times when my battery is much lower that I won't be able to charge it in the morning in the hour, I do charge it overnight.
What I've noticed is that the battery drains much slower on the days it's been on the charger overnight.
So I'm thinking that the charger will continue to raise the voltage even after it reaches 100%. Maybe someone has some other thoughts, but I just wanted to share what I've noticed so people are careful with their battery.
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Charge it yhe way you want. Don't stress on it.
But for a few tips:
Don't let the lithium-ion battery go down to critical battery levels before charge.
Don't put the battery on the refrigerator.
Don't over charge it even if it's a new battery .
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Charge it yhe way you want. Don't stress on it.
But for a few tips:
Don't let the lithium-ion battery go down to critical battery levels before charge.
Don't put the battery on the refrigerator.
Don't over charge it even if it's a new battery .
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So basically i can't charge the battery overnight? I don't understand the meaning of don't overcharge it.
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So basically i can't charge the battery overnight? I don't understand the meaning of don't overcharge it.
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You can but can potentially damage the battery. It's up to you.
I'm going to disagree with you guys. The charger and the battery has overcharging protection built in. So don't speculate with overcharging overnight. In fact when the phone has stayed longer on the charger I got better battery life. Cheers
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kirilorius said:
I'm going to disagree with you guys. The charger and the battery has overcharging protection built in. So don't speculate with overcharging overnight. In fact when the phone has stayed longer on the charger I got better battery life. Cheers
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Yes, I know. So why would you charge your phone overnight? So it would stay 100% when you wake up?
I charge my phone overnight everyday.
The battery magnet would trigger the charger into trickle mode. This prevents overcharging.
Li-ion battery prefers to be charged then discharged. Contrary to hearsays, discharging it to critical levels too often would actually degrade battery life.
My Nexus one of 2 years still maintained a 84% charge because of this.
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Yes, I know. So why would you charge your phone overnight? So it would stay 100% when you wake up?
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Cause i'm using it all day till 1-2 o'clock at night and thats the only time i can charge my phone. And with the heavy usage im putting it the battery cant hold more then 15-16 hours
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The battery have both overcharging and undercharging protection.
So there is no problem charging your phone overnight, the battery will stop charging when it is full. It will then be allowed to discharge a bit and the charging cycle will resume. The fluctuations caused by this charge/discharge cycle are usually hidden by the firmware so that you only see 100% - charged.
As for undercharging, it can indeed kill batteries, but it won't happen unless you drain the battery completely *and* let it self-discharge for a few weeks.
You don't have to adopt a specific charging pattern to keep your battery in good shape, just do what's most convenient for you.
Some tips however :
- Avoid high temperatures, batteries don't like it. The fridge is actually a good place to store your batteries provided that you took the necessary steps to prevent condensation.
- Store unused Li-Ion batteries at about 50% charge. Fully charged batteries have a lower shelf life, the 50% are there to prevent self-discharge from causing undercharging.
- A full discharge-charge cycle won't make your battery healthier but it is useful to recalibrate the power gauge.
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Cause i'm using it all day till 1-2 o'clock at night and thats the only time i can charge my phone. And with the heavy usage im putting it the battery cant hold more then 15-16 hours
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I see. Well, in your case it may be better.
Because during the night it gets more time to detect the proper voltage and stop.
And the battery is removable for a reason. It'll have over 80% original capacity even after 2000 discharges and it's only $20 at most to replace. No need to stress it over. Use it all you want and replace it the time comes. Leave the stressing over to the non-replaceable guys.
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Because during the night it gets more time to detect the proper voltage and stop.
And the battery is removable for a reason. It'll have over 80% original capacity even after 2000 discharges and it's only $20 at most to replace. No need to stress it over. Use it all you want and replace it the time comes. Leave the stressing over to the non-replaceable guys.
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Exactly.
If said battery full unplug charger, i let the phone still connect to charger moreless 1 hour...
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If said battery full unplug charger, i let the phone still connect to charger moreless 1 hour...
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Why anyone stresses over a $20 user replaceable part is beyond me. I think you're too used to iPhones
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Why anyone stresses over a $20 user replaceable part is beyond me. I think you're too used to iPhones
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I love eating kebabs. LOL :cyclops:
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And the battery is removable for a reason. It'll have over 80% original capacity even after 2000 discharges
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You telling me if i charge once a day, the battery will still have over 80% charge after 6 years of years? I find that hard to believe as all my previous batteries have to be replaced after 2 to 3 years of use.
That's the quote from manufacturers under ideal conditions. The only devices that I haven't threw out for that long are laptops and the battery in them are still working flawlessly and holds a reasonable charge.
Even tiny LSD batteries can have up to 1000 charges so higher capacity ones will last longer and be more durable due to the increased amount of cells. Just like how higher capacity nand will last longer than lower ones.
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It's a 30 battery. Treat it like **** and just replace it when it dies! By the time it's dead you'll be wanting a new phone anyway.
Yesterday when I woke up my G2 has 20% battery left, then I charge it to 80%. Then in the evening I charge it again 40%-80%. Then today I woke up again, (In the first SS)I'm just curious why is my "Usage in Battery" reaches 46 hours 29 minutes? It combines the usage on the other day and yesterday. "Expected time to use" is 61 hours, but I know it is not accurate because when I started playing games for like 10mins it goes down to 1hour left haha. And in the second SS, I'm assuming that it also combines the Screen time of the other day and yesterday.
a 20%-80%=60%
b 40%-80%=40%
c a + b = 100% I think it is 1 full cycle and should turn my battery Usage to 0 min again.
Is this normal? I don't really understand how G2's battery works.
I usually charge my G2 two times a day because of games. And charges it when it reaches below 40% to 80%. I don't really drain it and charge it to 100%. Am I doing it right?
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Yesterday when I woke up my G2 has 20% battery left, then I charge it to 80%. Then in the evening I charge it again 40%-80%. Then today I woke up again, (In the first SS)I'm just curious why is my "Usage in Battery" reaches 46 hours 29 minutes? It combines the usage on the other day and yesterday. "Expected time to use" is 61 hours, but I know it is not accurate because when I started playing games for like 10mins it goes down to 1hour left haha. And in the second SS, I'm assuming that it also combines the Screen time of the other day and yesterday.
a 20%-80%=60%
b 40%-80%=40%
c a + b = 100% I think it is 1 full cycle and should turn my battery Usage to 0 min again.
Is this normal? I don't really understand how G2's battery works.
I usually charge my G2 two times a day because of games. And charges it when it reaches below 40% to 80%. I don't really drain it and charge it to 100%. Am I doing it right?
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I think it is better to charge it 100%.
But if the battery dies you can always replace it
I'm a person who tries to not to do what you do because it could over time damage the battery. I always charge to 100% and try to drain it as much as I can before I recharge it.
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clapper66 said:
I'm a person who tries to not to do what you do because it could over time damage the battery. I always charge to 100% and try to drain it as much as I can before I recharge it.
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And you'll damage your battery faster. Your approach was good for nickel based batteries, not good for lithium-ion.
This is the first link from Google search, there are many posts about it:
http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
only if you charge it to 100%, then the statistic will starts a new one,
if you're charging up to 80% and disconnect the charger, the statistic will keep from the previous full battery charge statistic.
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only if you charge it to 100%, then the statistic will starts a new one,
if you're charging up to 80% and disconnect the charger, the statistic will keep from the previous full battery charge statistic.
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Then people who always post their SS of the usage on battery of their phone that are hitting 2-3 days are all just being boastful? haha
That's why I'm always curious about my battery info because it is not always accurate and people tend to believe that their "usage on battery" info are always correct. I'm not saying all, but there are so many.
@chaki- do you know where I can find a replacement battery on my G2? Then if yes I will probably destroy my phone for charging 100% all the time.
@clapper66 , as @ddavtian said, it is for nickel based batteries only and you should change the way you charge your G2.
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Then people who always post their SS of the usage on battery of their phone that are hitting 2-3 days are all just being boastful? haha
That's why I'm always curious about my battery info because it is not always accurate and people tend to believe that their "usage on battery" info are always correct. I'm not saying all, but there are so many.
@chaki- do you know where I can find a replacement battery on my G2? Then if yes I will probably destroy my phone for charging 100% all the time.
@clapper66 , as @ddavtian said, it is for nickel based batteries only and you should change the way you charge your G2.
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so its bad to kill a battery down to 10% then re charge to 100%?
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so its bad to kill a battery down to 10% then re charge to 100%?
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I have been using my phones always the same way when it comes to charging.
Have never had issues with the batterys.
My sensation xl is more then 2 years old and still can standby more then 36hr wifi etc. on with the original battery.
What destroying are you talking about?
Thats the same if you don't drive your car, not to change your car battery......
At the end i bought that phone to use it, not other way arround.
One battery doesn't cost the world. There are service shops that can change it.
That link is a good read. Gonna try it from now on as this beast of a phone needs proper care as well :what:
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So excited about getting my new phone today but have a question prior to opening just to be prepared. What is the best process to ensure the battery health when first opening device? Do I charge the device fully prior to turning it on for the first time or do I let the battery drain fully before I put it on the charger? I know this is an age old discussion but not sure with these new phones how to best handle it.
Thanks in advance.
I honestly used it took it died, then I charged it all the way to 100 (never leave overnight) then I let it die all the way, then charge again.. So far good battery life
That was after my first full charge[emoji4]
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RidinNerdy said:
I honestly used it took it died, then I charged it all the way to 100 (never leave overnight) then I let it die all the way, then charge again.. So far good battery life
That was after my first full charge[emoji4]
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Thanks. Ill do that. I love the battery stats you getting and that's what I want!!
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I honestly used it took it died, then I charged it all the way to 100 (never leave overnight) then I let it die all the way, then charge again.. So far good battery life
That was after my first full charge[emoji4]
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That is the worst thing you can do. These aren't NiCads. LiIon batteries do not like to be fully discharged.
You'll likely find that the battery will be charged to roughly 40%. This is considered the ideal amount of charge for long-term storage. People often still worry about memory effects of batteries, harping back to the days of older battery types such as Ni-Cad and some Ni-Mh batteries but the same isn't true for Li-ion or Li-Pol batteries.
The one thing to absolutely try to avoid is letting the battery run down to flat. Li-ion batteries will degrade quicker over time if discharged fully, which is also why devices have a built-in "buffer" amount when you run the battery down to avoid damaging them.
Honestly, the main issue for your battery is heat, and large drops or knocks. Try and keep it cool and never let it die on you!
You don't need to do anything special, just use it. One thing you should definitely not do is completely discharge the battery though. You should also refrain from keeping the device connected to a charger once it's reached full charge, keeping the battery at peak voltage decreases the long-term battery life. Here's a couple of really helpful articles:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
Just a point of info: Phone batteries don't LET you completely discharge. Once your phone shuts down (afer running "out" of battery, the battery still has some level of charge left.
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Just a point of info: Phone batteries don't LET you completely discharge. Once your phone shuts down (afer running "out" of battery, the battery still has some level of charge left.
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That is right, but if you continue to power the device on in order to drain it more you'll cause problems. It's virtually impossible to completely drain one of these batteries, it actually powers down at something like 50% of its true capacity, because if it gets much lower than this it can cause irreparable damage. If you do somehow manage to drain one of these batteries past that magical point (by the methods I described above), it will simply not power on again because there's a minimum amount of voltage required.
Interesting. I normally charge my devices while I sleep so when I wake up they are fully charged. Once I'm up I'm ready to go and have a full charge not wake up to charge the device and wait for it to reach capacity idk. I haven't had any issues in any phone I've had while charging it while I sleep at night
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Interesting. I normally charge my devices while I sleep so when I wake up they are fully charged. Once I'm up I'm ready to go and have a full charge not wake up to charge the device and wait for it to reach capacity idk. I haven't had any issues in any phone I've had while charging it while I sleep at night
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It just basically reduces the capacity of the battery over time. I charge in the evening before bed, it only drops a couple of percent overnight thanks to doze.
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It just basically reduces the capacity of the battery over time. I charge in the evening before bed, it only drops a couple of percent overnight thanks to doze.
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With my Nexus like now I'm in bed with 77% battery, I'm usually on my device until I fall asleep, my BlackBerry has great standby time. With doze, I don't lose much battery if any and since the phone recharges so fast. I'm rarely "dead" enough to warrant me charging it while I sleep like say my note four etc. But this is food for thought in regards to charging
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