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I am from Israel and I am coming to the States on the next Monday. I need a sim with unlimited data, and about 100 minutes of talk and some messages.. I also need wifi tethring option to tether my tablet and laptop. I cant decide which carrier to choose. T mobile daily plan sounds nice but there are others like h2o, net10... Any suggestions?
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I would get the T-Mobile $30 unlimited data and texting with 100 minutes. The $3 a day plan is also a good option if you're going to use under 200MB a day.
All the plans AT&T MVNO's(H2o, Red Pocket, etc) have low data allowances and cost more than T-Mobile.
AT&T has 250 minutes and unlimited texting for $25 a month. You can add data for $25 a GB.

bar_rodoy said:
I am from Israel and I am coming to the States on the next Monday. I need a sim with unlimited data, and about 100 minutes of talk and some messages.. I also need wifi tethring option to tether my tablet and laptop. I cant decide which carrier to choose. T mobile daily plan sounds nice but there are others like h2o, net10... Any suggestions?
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You should make sure your phone supports the AWS band (also known as band IV) for 3G before going on T-Mobile or band II or V for AT&T 3G.
T-Mobile checks UA string to detect tethering, so you will need to spoof it in your browser settings to get around it. Not sure about AT&T or any MVNO, however.
Would strongly suggest T-Mobile if your phone supports it and you plan to stay in a metro area. Otherwise, go with an AT&T MVNO.

While I have not had any experience with T-Mobile, all of my past experience with AT&T has been horrid. I would not recommend them for prepaid or postpaid usage

Rikairchy said:
While I have not had any experience with T-Mobile, all of my past experience with AT&T has been horrid. I would not recommend them for prepaid or postpaid usage
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As much as I would agree (I hate calling people who I know are on AT&T because the calls drop frequently), T-Mobile's 3G coverage is much smaller than AT&T's 3G coverage - leaving AT&T as the only GSM option in some areas. That said, if you spend most of your time in or around major cities, T-Mobile is superior both on performance and price.

I have LG P500, it has quad band and tri band.. should it work with T Mobile? I will be in major cities like NYC, Philly, DC...

bar_rodoy said:
I have LG P500, it has quad band and tri band.. should it work with T Mobile? I will be in major cities like NYC, Philly, DC...
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You won't be able to get 3G from any US carrier with that phone. It supports 900 / 2100 for 3G and none of the networks over here support those 3G frequencies.
You'll be on 2G no matter which carrier you choose.
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Mr.Mischief said:
You won't be able to get 3G from any US carrier with that phone. It supports 900 / 2100 for 3G and none of the networks over here support those 3G frequencies.
You'll be on 2G no matter which carrier you choose.
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From what I know, T mobile uses 2100 MHZ...
By the way, how about Motorola Milestone 2?

bar_rodoy said:
From what I know, T mobile uses 2100 MHZ...
By the way, how about Motorola Milestone 2?
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Nope. T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 together. You can't just use 2100 on T-Mobile.
The international Milestone has the same bands as your P500. The US Milestone supports AT&T 3G.
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Mr.Mischief said:
I would get the T-Mobile $30 unlimited data and texting with 100 minutes. The $3 a day plan is also a good option if you're going to use under 200MB a day.
All the plans AT&T MVNO's(H2o, Red Pocket, etc) have low data allowances and cost more than T-Mobile.
AT&T has 250 minutes and unlimited texting for $25 a month. You can add data for $25 a GB.
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The problem with the T-Mobile $30 unlimited data (up to 5Gb) plan is you won't be able to use any data on Edge and they don't really have 4G anywhere unless your phone does WCDMA on 1700Mhz then it will work at T-Mobile stores but that's all. You will need a newer Samsung Galaxy S2 or S3 phone to take advantage of 3G service on T-Mobile.

stevec5000 said:
The problem with the T-Mobile $30 unlimited data (up to 5Gb) plan is you won't be able to use any data on Edge and they don't really have 4G anywhere unless your phone does WCDMA on 1700Mhz then it will work at T-Mobile stores but that's all. You will need a newer Samsung Galaxy S2 or S3 phone to take advantage of 3G service on T-Mobile.
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When the OP made the thread and mentioned T-Mobile, I figured he had a T-Mobile compatible phone. If you reqd the post above, you'd see I pointed out that T-Mobile 3G/4G wouldn't work on his phone.
But, don't have to be at a T-Mobile store to get 4G. That's absurd. Also, there's no need for a new T-Mobile phone to get fast data, any T-Mobile 3G phone will work.
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Mr.Mischief said:
When the OP made the thread and mentioned T-Mobile, I figured he had a T-Mobile compatible phone. If you reqd the post above, you'd see I pointed out that T-Mobile 3G/4G wouldn't work on his phone.
But, don't have to be at a T-Mobile store to get 4G. That's absurd. Also, there's no need for a new T-Mobile phone to get fast data, any T-Mobile 3G phone will work.
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I disagree, it may sound absurd until you realize they don't really have any 4G network anyplace but they need service inside the stores so they can display the phones working. In the Phoenix, Mesa and Scottsdale areas the only place you can get 4G on T-Mobil is in or near the T-Mobil stores where they have a 5 bar signal. They claim they aren't using an amp or anything but if you leave the store and go down the street a few blocks there's no signal and it's not available anywhere else.
As for saying "any T-Mobile 3G phone will work" you know they haven't sold 3G phones since 2010, right? None of the new Samsung 4G phones can get 3G either, at least none of the ones I looked at in the store could get it since they don't have an option for HSPA or HSPA+, just GSM and WCDMA with nothing in between.

stevec5000 said:
I disagree, it may sound absurd until you realize they don't really have any 4G network anyplace but they need service inside the stores so they can display the phones working. In the Phoenix, Mesa and Scottsdale areas the only place you can get 4G on T-Mobil is in or near the T-Mobil stores where they have a 5 bar signal. They claim they aren't using an amp or anything but if you leave the store and go down the street a few blocks there's no signal and it's not available anywhere else.
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Tinfoil hat much? Nuff said.
I get T-Mobile 4G all over Alabama, miles away from the T-Mobile store. I also travel yearly to TN, LA, MI, and GA, and I get T-Mobile 4G in those states as well.
stevec5000 said:
As for saying "any T-Mobile 3G phone will work" you know they haven't sold 3G phones since 2010, right? None of the new Samsung 4G phones can get 3G either, at least none of the ones I looked at in the store could get it since they don't have an option for HSPA or HSPA+, just GSM and WCDMA with nothing in between.
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All T-Mobile smartphones phones are capable of 3G. You confusing T-Mobile 4G with LTE. T-Mobile doesn't have LTE, and their 4G network is nothing more than fast 3G. The icon in the corner of your screen might only show 4G, but there are many instances where it's actually getting 3G I get 3G with my Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile.
You really need to do some serious research.

Lets try and keep this on topic of the thread bout sim card and not go off about how good the actual networks are etc.

The fact of the matter is, you'll only get 3G/4G (HSPA+) on AT&T and AT&T MNVO's. If OP needs fast data, I'd recommend a Straight Talk AT&T-Compatible SIM from http://straighttalk.com. It's $50 for a month of unlimited everything (just don't go too crazy with data). When you fill in the APN, ignore any proxy fields except for "MMS Proxy".

Product F(RED) said:
The fact of the matter is, you'll only get 3G/4G (HSPA+) on AT&T and AT&T MNVO's. If OP needs fast data, I'd recommend a Straight Talk AT&T-Compatible SIM from http://straighttalk.com. It's $50 for a month of unlimited everything (just don't go too crazy with data). When you fill in the APN, ignore any proxy fields except for "MMS Proxy".
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His phone runs on 900MHz and 2100MHz, doesn't AT&T 3G run on 850MHz and 1900MHz?

Oh wow, he has some funky frequencies. He'll need a different phone for 3G/4G on any network then. Basic functions and EDGE should work though.

[Q] Differences of Data in XT905 XT907 XT907Dev

Well my questions is.
Do any of these models work 100% with Data 3G/4G with AT&T and T-Mobile USA ?
XT907 Retail VZ, everything works with AT&T and T-Mobile except Fast Data we only get E
XT905 Does this one work in the US or will it have compatibly issues with the Data Frequency also ?
XT907 Dev, I seen some of yall have this one if you stick an AT&T and T-Mobile Sim in it do you get 4G 3G or HSPA or also only E ?

Man, mine is a xt907 dev... As you know I never managed to get anything better than edge in the US with gsm, 3G only in the rest of the world.
Again, let me reiterate, the xt907 dev is exactly identical to the retail, both in software and in hardware. Only difference is that Motorola will give me an unlock code if I request it in exchange for the warranty.
Instead, I'm very interested in:
* xt905 (Aussie, Telstra) and,
* 201M (Japan, Softbank).
Anybody has had the chance to try one of these in the US with a gsm carrier?
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Has anyone tried a XT905 in the USA yet? I know ppl r trying the radios in a 907 but I reckon the 905 should work on at&t GSM.
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pjcons said:
Has anyone tried a XT905 in the USA yet? I know ppl r trying the radios in a 907 but I reckon the 905 should work on at&t GSM.
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Not here.. never tried the XT905.
Though XT907 gets H+, 3G etc etc on Tmobile network in Houston Texas.

The 907 and 907 Dev are identical except for the fact that the Dev edition can legitimately unlock the bootloader and has "developer edition" on the back. There is literally no other difference
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Germanese said:
Well my questions is.
Do any of these models work 100% with Data 3G/4G with AT&T and T-Mobile USA ?
XT907 Retail VZ, everything works with AT&T and T-Mobile except Fast Data we only get E
XT905 Does this one work in the US or will it have compatibly issues with the Data Frequency also ?
XT907 Dev, I seen some of yall have this one if you stick an AT&T and T-Mobile Sim in it do you get 4G 3G or HSPA or also only E ?
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I have an XT907 retail VZW, using Straight Talk's BYOP AT&T SIM. I get HSPA+ with speeds around 10Mbps, and near where I work, T-Mobile has refarmed their HSPA and I can see (but not connect, as AT&T sims cannot roam on T-mobile on ST). So if you are only able to get EDGE, either you have your phone set to 2G/GSM only, or are in an area without AT&T/T-Mobile HSPA (or a non-refarmed T-Mobile HSPA area).
I'm attaching a picture of when I scan for networks on my Razr M.
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Skreelink said:
I have an XT907 retail VZW, using Straight Talk's BYOP AT&T SIM. I get HSPA+ with speeds around 10Mbps, and near where I work, T-Mobile has refarmed their HSPA and I can see (but not connect, as AT&T sims cannot roam on T-mobile on ST). So if you are only able to get EDGE, either you have your phone set to 2G/GSM only, or are in an area without AT&T/T-Mobile HSPA (or a non-refarmed T-Mobile HSPA area).
I'm attaching a picture of when I scan for networks on my Razr M.
EDIT: Also added a speedtest and network info screenshot.
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Yeah I know about that now. This is a pretty old post. =) But you are correct.

Germanese said:
Yeah I know about that now. This is a pretty old post. =) But you are correct.
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I kinda intended it as an informational post for people drifting through.

T-Mobile USA Subscribers: Question About Data Roaming on AT&T

Hey everyone...
I travel to eastern Kentucky regularly and T- Mobile has zero service out there. The phones roam on AT&T. I was a T-Mobile subscriber for years, but every phone I had (Motorola Cliq XT, G2, Nexus S) would only get EDGE/2G data on AT&T due to TMO and AT&T using different 3G frequencies. The Nexus 4 is the first phone I've owned that works on both TMO's and AT&T's 3G and HSPA+ frequencies.
My question is... When you're roaming on AT&T's network with a TMO SIM, will the N4 connect to AT&T 3G and/or HSPA+? Or does AT&T restrict roaming traffic to EDGE/2G protocol?
Thanks!
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Anyone?

Nope, Edge only when working off of the AT&T towers..

lowandbehold said:
Nope, Edge only when working off of the AT&T towers..
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I figured that was the case, but I figured I'd ask just in case. Thanks for the info!
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oldblue910 said:
Hey everyone...
I travel to eastern Kentucky regularly and T- Mobile has zero service out there. The phones roam on AT&T. I was a T-Mobile subscriber for years, but every phone I had (Motorola Cliq XT, G2, Nexus S) would only get EDGE/2G data on AT&T due to TMO and AT&T using different 3G frequencies. The Nexus 4 is the first phone I've owned that works on both TMO's and AT&T's 3G and HSPA+ frequencies.
My question is... When you're roaming on AT&T's network with a TMO SIM, will the N4 connect to AT&T 3G and/or HSPA+? Or does AT&T restrict roaming traffic to EDGE/2G protocol?
Thanks!
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You will get 3G service on At&T. Me and my wife went to Vermont and there was no T-mobile service and wife was getting Att 3G with her samsung galaxy s 4g, me with my G2X(no 1900mhz) only edge though....

BigDig said:
You will get 3G service on At&T. Me and my wife went to Vermont and there was no T-mobile service and wife was getting Att 3G with her samsung galaxy s 4g, me with my G2X(no 1900mhz) only edge though....
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Interesting...well I guess I'll find out what the N4 does when I go to Kentucky soon. haha I miss Vermont. I lived in Mass and Rhode Island a combined 12 years and Vermont was my favorite place to vacation.

BigDig said:
You will get 3G service on At&T. Me and my wife went to Vermont and there was no T-mobile service and wife was getting Att 3G with her samsung galaxy s 4g, me with my G2X(no 1900mhz) only edge though....
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Was that with an AT&T or T-mobile sim card? It had to be with AT&T. They OP's question was in regards to AT&T 3G with a T-mobile sim, which will not happen. Carriers charge so much money for data, they are surely not going to let you use theirs for free. And yes, the G2X does contain the 1900 band...http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_g2x-3888.php

lowandbehold said:
Was that with an AT&T or T-mobile sim card? It had to be with AT&T. They OP's question was in regards to AT&T 3G with a T-mobile sim, which will not happen. Carriers charge so much money for data, they are surely not going to let you use theirs for free. And yes, the G2X does contain the 1900 band...http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_g2x-3888.php
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T-mobile sims, we both have t-mobile service. According to the t-mo-Att agreement you have 50mb data. The G2X has gsm 1900, but not hspa 1900.
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oldblue910 said:
Interesting...well I guess I'll find out what the N4 does when I go to Kentucky soon. haha I miss Vermont. I lived in Mass and Rhode Island a combined 12 years and Vermont was my favorite place to vacation.
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Yeah, Vermont is beautiful! Equinox mountain....That`s where we had that T-mo - At&t experience- she got 3G I got Edge...

My phone would sometimes roam onto AT&T in low-service T-mo areas...anyways to not have roaming at all? I hate being on roam when I know there's at least edge in the area.

kCelsius said:
My phone would sometimes roam onto AT&T in low-service T-mo areas...anyways to not have roaming at all? I hate being on roam when I know there's at least edge in the area.
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Just disable roaming from your networks menu.....
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BigDig said:
Just disable roaming from your networks menu.....
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Data roaming has been disabled...
I'll be on AT&Ts network and i can send out texts and make phonecalls, but since I don't have it enabled, no data. I just thought that since i have the option disabled, it wouldn't roam at all.

BigDig said:
You will get 3G service on At&T. Me and my wife went to Vermont and there was no T-mobile service and wife was getting Att 3G with her samsung galaxy s 4g, me with my G2X(no 1900mhz) only edge though....
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That's crazy I didn't get jack on my gs4g I was in St. J
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3G AT&T network when I lost reception in the mountains of Oregon/Washington state.
Keep in mind that when roaming on AT&T's network, they restrict how much data you can use. If you use all that data up, you will not have data (even on unlimited plans) when you return for the remainder of the billing cycle.

T-Mobioe vs Developer HTC One?

Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah

You could always get sim unlocked 32gb for 579 but if you are tmo definitely get unlocked or dev.
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Crazysah said:
Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah
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T-Mobile since it has the AWS bands... You might be in a refarmed area but it's nice to have the aws when you go into an area with out the 1900 refarm.
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I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?

The city Queens and Long Island have been refarmed from where I've been. 1700mHz won't matter after LTE it's rolled out.
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If you have T-Mobile get the Tmo version to secure the best possible speeds
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Crazysah said:
Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah
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If space is not an issue for you, I would recommend T-mobile. I had Droid DNA (frequency the same as new one dev edition, except for LTE) on T-mobile in Tampa, which is a reframed 1900mhz area, and it didn't work very well. Having 1900mhz only makes you lose HSPA+ easily in a building. I chose dev. edition because I want 64GB and unlocked bootloader without losing warranty. Otherwise, I would choose T-mobile.

Crazysah said:
I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?
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I chose the t-mobile version and cancelled my dev order. I decided I could live with 32 gb. To tmo will have full aws speeds now and lte speeds later. The only advantage to the dev is that it has that extra memory. The tmo phone can easily be unlocked.
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EclipzeRemix said:
If you have T-Mobile get the Tmo version to secure the best possible speeds
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Yeah, I guess.
peachlai said:
If space is not an issue for you, I would recommend T-mobile. I had Droid DNA (frequency the same as new one dev edition, except for LTE) on T-mobile in Tampa, which is a reframed 1900mhz area, and it didn't work very well. Having 1900mhz only makes you lose HSPA+ easily in a building. I chose dev. edition because I want 64GB and unlocked bootloader without losing warranty. Otherwise, I would choose T-mobile.
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Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
stevedebi said:
I chose the t-mobile version and cancelled my dev order. I decided I could live with 32 gb. To tmo will have full aws speeds now and lte speeds later. The only advantage to the dev is that it has that extra memory. The tmo phone can easily be unlocked.
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Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?

Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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Once fully paid for you can request a sim unlock code from Tmobile. I've heard that they might make you wait 40 days from purchase before giving out the code.
To unlock the bootloader you can go to htcdev.com

Once you pay it in full, or after 3 months of service, they'll unlock it
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THEindian said:
Once you pay it in full, or after 3 months of service, they'll unlock it
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I think they recently changed the unlock requirements so it's 40 days of full service and the phone has to be fully payed off
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Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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If you mean SIM unlocked, I believe you have to wait 40 days. You can unlock the bootloader any time.
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They both the same phone, its up you. if you travel a lot (Outside the country) then get the unlocked version.. or if you plan on switching carriers later on get the unlocked version.. regardless you'll be able to unlock the T-Mobile version also but deal with any bloatware they add and you'll have to wait for your carrier to approve updates
unlocked version roms can be flashed on the ATT/T-Mobile version .. plus the bootloader is unlocked on both..
If money isn't a issue then why are you even asking this question? just buy the unbranded version which supports LTE on both networks (if im correct) Just know T-Mobile won't replace it and you'll have to go thru HTC and their warranty agreements.. (if the unlocked bootloader even comes with warranty)
Its like you are asking "i got a billion dollars.. should i buy a Ferrari or buy a Bugatti ?"

Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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It was so bad that my friend switched to Straight Talk... (I only visited Tampa for one month but my friend lives there) The only difference is that when New York has Tmobile LTE, new One dev. edition will work under LTE. But before LTE comes, it would probably be similar to what my friend experienced in Tampa.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／

peachlai said:
It was so bad that my friend switched to Straight Talk... (I only visited Tampa for one month but my friend lives there) The only difference is that when New York has Tmobile LTE, new One dev. edition will work under LTE. But before LTE comes, it would probably be similar to what my friend experienced in Tampa.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／
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So assuming NYC gets LTE by the summer (I'll be gone to India anyway for the summer), I'll be fine getting by with one month of 2G. The Dev version has more bands right so supports it works better in most countries?

Crazysah said:
So assuming NYC gets LTE by the summer (I'll be gone to India anyway for the summer), I'll be fine getting by with one month of 2G. The Dev version has more bands right so supports it works better in most countries?
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Yes, if outside of USA, I believe you'll have higher chance of getting a compatible frequency with Dev. Edition. I actually chose dev. edition over T-mobile because I am moving to a place where T-mobile has LTE. But my experience reminds me that I should test the speed before I switch from Straight Talk to T-mobile.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／

peachlai said:
Yes, if outside of USA, I believe you'll have higher chance of getting a compatible frequency with Dev. Edition. I actually chose dev. edition over T-mobile because I am moving to a place where T-mobile has LTE. But my experience reminds me that I should test the speed before I switch from Straight Talk to T-mobile.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／
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I guess I'll order the dev version then and if I run into many problems, I'll sell it when I get back to the USA in August.
Thanks a lot!

1700 > 1900
Crazysah said:
I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?
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I use the T-Mobile version in NYC, and it has better reception where I live as it accesses 1700 AWS HSPA+42, and I get better in building reception with that compared to 1900 (or the kick out to EDGE - ugh!), and voice calls are also better for some reason (not to mention Wifi calling - which I LOST when I flashed AR6 - if someone knows when the T-Mobile ROM will be out, let us know, can't wait to switch back and have that back).
The T-mobile version, even flashed with another rom, doesn't allow Hotspot natively without kicking u to sign up for a hotspot plan, whereas the AT&T version allows hotspot functionality without a headache once you flash another rom and replace the stock AT&T rom.

alinefx said:
I use the T-Mobile version in NYC, and it has better reception where I live as it accesses 1700 AWS HSPA+42, and I get better in building reception with that compared to 1900 (or the kick out to EDGE - ugh!), and voice calls are also better for some reason (not to mention Wifi calling - which I LOST when I flashed AR6 - if someone knows when the T-Mobile ROM will be out, let us know, can't wait to switch back and have that back).
The T-mobile version, even flashed with another rom, doesn't allow Hotspot natively without kicking u to sign up for a hotspot plan, whereas the AT&T version allows hotspot functionality without a headache once you flash another rom and replace the stock AT&T rom.
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I don't care about hotspot. So literally, the only thing I lose by going dev is the Wi-Fi calling?
Where in New York exactly do you live?

Unlocked on T-Mobile

There seems to be some confusion about this phone working on T-Mobile 4g
YES THE PHONE WORKS!! however if you want 4g you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area and yes LTE works as well.
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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I would like to confirm that the Unlocked 32GB HTC One works perfectly in Phoenix, AZ as well. We're another 1900MHz refarm, and I've spotted LTE in some areas as well. Don't be afraid to grab this from HTC rather than dealing with T-Mobile's shinanigans and bloatware.

I'm in the boston area, which is also refarmed. pretty much same experience as op. all the set up was automatic.
the only thing different is indoors, sitting at my desk which is 3 feet from the window, my phone switches between E, 3g, and H every few minutes like it cant get a stable connection.
havent gone outdoors yet.
Speedtest during H connection was: 104ms ping, 5.13Mbps down, 2.07Mbps up
this is comparable to my g2 speedtests

msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...

MinimalistChris said:
Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...
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Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP

I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim

Houston Area
The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.

Hello there LTE! It's beautiful to see you on my screen. I can now confirm LTE in Houston
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coolpkduck said:
The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.
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I'm sure it won't be long before we have a radio flash for tmobile from the devs
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mr2kqql said:
Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP
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good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.

naan-consensual said:
good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.
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Finally got tethering working by using FoxFi and I get around 10mpbs, the stock one that comes with the phone doesnt quite work for tmobile.

New to the htc one but what is the tmo radio required for? Since it already works unlocked?

If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
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Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?

msmith1991 said:
If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
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The ATT/dev ones are 850/1900/2100MHz UMTS; band 4 (AWS) is the only UMTS band that uses 1700MHz at all.
I wouldn't count on getting AWS enabled on the dev version. It is very likely that the allowed bands are configured in hardware as has generally been the case on MDM9x15 devices.
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Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?
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The unlocked version is strictly worse from a 3G standpoint but might have a couple of extra LTE frequencies (not 100% sure on that one, tmo version definitely is bands 4/17 only). AFAIK the only other place AWS is at all likely to matter is Canada, but assuming tmo will unlock your One there is no frequency advantage to getting the unlocked version from HTC--I think it's $5 cheaper.

If you travel internationally then that's a huge advantage.. but I'm sure tmobile will unlock your phone, if you ask. I purchased the unlocked version because I didn't wanna deal with my uncle (account holder) nor tmobile. Plus there wasnt any information about tmobiles release at the time, I so I hopped on the unlocked version.
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I have the HTC 64GB Developer Edition here in Jacksonville Florida but I only get EDGE on T-Mobile Network I dont know what frequency they are using here in Jacksonville, they could be on 1700Mhz My brothers T-Mobile Galaxy S3 says UMTS-3 and he is getting 4G Speeds.

msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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Yeah you guys can actually use this to check if your area has the refarmed 1900 Mhz
http://www.airportal.de/

howardho said:
I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim
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Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
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Same Here I come from AT&T and I dont like them, I bought this phone to use it with T-Mobile, but I really had it with this HTC One 64GB Developer Edition, HTC should of included AWS 1700mhz on this phone for being such a premium phone with a high price... I'm having the same issue with T-Mobiles Refarm @ 1900mhz keeps dropping from H to EDGE, and I just spoke to my Buddy that works for T-Mobile and there LTE will be on AWS 1700MHZ... I'm shipping this phone back to HTC, I was thinking of buying T-Mobiles HTC One Branded phone that includes the AWS 1700mhz Band, but I don't like the fact that its only a 32GB. I'm going to miss this phone. Ohh well S4 is around the corner maybe I could give Sammy a shot.
954wrecker said:
Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
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