[Q] What Does A Nexus Without Backlight Bleed Look Like? - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've seen numerous complaints about backlight bleeding, and a few pictures of what terrible backlight bleeding looks like.
However, I've not seen any pictures of either little or none backlight bleeding. Does anyone have a picture (or can someone who has a good Nexus 10 take a picture) of a Nexus 10 with none/low backlight bleeding?
I think it'd be a good reference for those hunting for a good Nexus 10. I'm in the camp that doesn't believe there is such a thing as NO backlight bleeding, but I want to see what is deemed "acceptable" by most so that I know if my Nexus 10 is "return worthy" or not.
Here are a few pictures of mine with its backlight bleed. I'm not sure if this is considered as good as it gets or if I should take it back and try for better?
100% brightness, white backlight bleeding in red, dark patch underneath the front camera in blue:
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Another picture without the markings in the way:
Sort of an inverted picture to help show the trouble spots a bit better:

I would say that mine is almost same as yours, I don't have that much light bleed on top of the screen ( close to the camera lens )
I have 2 more days to decide if I return or not, this is my second unit, first one was even worse than I have now. Fortunately bought in Staples, so I just walk in store and exchanged it. Hope more people will post their screens. Thank you for this post.

I'm bumping this thread hoping someone would post a nexus 10 without any or minimal backlight bleeding. I'm planning to buy next week and I want to know if its worth it. I'm from the Philippines and consumer protection laws aren't great here and I'd probably get stuck with what I will get. Thanks in advance!

Here's a pic of my Nexus 10 app drawer. Pic was taken in a dark room with max brightness.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36767166
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Maconi said:
I've seen numerous complaints about backlight bleeding, and a few pictures of what terrible backlight bleeding looks like.
However, I've not seen any pictures of either little or none backlight bleeding. Does anyone have a picture (or can someone who has a good Nexus 10 take a picture) of a Nexus 10 with none/low backlight bleeding?
I think it'd be a good reference for those hunting for a good Nexus 10. I'm in the camp that doesn't believe there is such a thing as NO backlight bleeding, but I want to see what is deemed "acceptable" by most so that I know if my Nexus 10 is "return worthy" or not.
Here are a few pictures of mine with its backlight bleed. I'm not sure if this is considered as good as it gets or if I should take it back and try for better?
100% brightness, white backlight bleeding in red, dark patch underneath the front camera in blue:
Another picture without the markings in the way:
Sort of an inverted picture to help show the trouble spots a bit better:
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LOL, Thnks i need to know what i am looking for, when i receive my N10

I checked mine at first boot real quick and it looked perfect... I'll try again
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Google sent me a 2nd one no problem for light bleed. However the replacement was much worse.
My mother got her replacement yesterday and was much better better but still had bleed, she is keeping hers.
It seems to be a gamble.
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I dont have the bottom left screen bleeding. And the rest are better than yours. But my WiFi sucks....
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I don't have your lower left bleeding. And the rest are much better.... But my WiFi sucks.

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Display has yellowish tint to it. Help!!

So my excitement kinda came to an early end last night. I got my second replacement mt4g due to a bad screen. This one is perfect...except that when I was reading some text on a page with a white background, I noticed that from bottom to top, the white gradually goes from white to this yellowish tint. I will post a picture of it later on tonight.
My question is, do you have/had this problem and did you end up returning it or did it go away kind of like when this was happening to the iphone 4? I really hope this really doesn't become a full-blown issue like with the washed colors, because then I would have to request a 3rd replacement and make sure that it doesn't have dead pixels, dust under the screen, washed out colors, yellow tint, crooked ffc, creaky buttons, and gaps around the bezel. Thanks.
Here is an example of what i'm talking about except my display is white at the bottom and gradually goes to the color of the phone that is on the right, at the top.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856792
Here you go guys:
img831.imageshack.us/img831/159/img1091z.jpg
(sorry for the link, I haven't posted 8+ times yet)
My bosses phone has looked like that since day 1
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ESKIMOn00b said:
My bosses phone has looked like that since day 1
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Do you think that the problem is improper screen calibration and all I have to do is wait for a software update?
225 views and one reply?? Really guys?? Not trying to sound like I'm whining, but this is a serious problem and I think i'm not the only one. I just received my replacement, and it too has this yellowish tint towards the top of the screen. This will be my 4th time that I will be requesting a replacement, so in total so far, 4 defective phones.
ur phone has a bad screen. when black looks more light greyish and when white doesn't quite look white, bad screen.
return it, these are things u wanna check within the first few days!
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I'm sorry, but it's really difficult to tell based on the picture you linked. Is there any way you can take a comparison photo with a good screen?
I can't see anything wrong from that photo. It will take something more than this to let others know if you have a problem.
smirkis said:
ur phone has a bad screen. when black looks more light greyish and when white doesn't quite look white, bad screen.
return it, these are things u wanna check within the first few days!
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The blacks never looked grayish, the colors were bright, crisp and vibrant, it was when looking at something with a white background. This issue has nothing to do with the washed screens that people are getting.
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I can't see anything wrong from that photo. It will take something more than this to let others know if you have a problem.
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I figured it out based on a chat I had with a friend. I think that the backlight was improperly calibrated or something. Sorry that I can't take a better picture as I have already received my exchange which is much much better, the light is just more distributed evenly then the previous phone. Plus it doesn't creak, the ffc is dead centered, and light doesn't leak through between the bezel and the screen at the top of the phone. After 4 exchanges(5 phones total), I finally got a "perfect" device.
Here is a side-by-side shot sort of(I returned the defective device before I could think of take a pic of them together due to my excitement!)
You can easily tell that the screen of the phone on the right has way more light at the bottom of it and the top doesn't which results in a more obvious yellowish tint. The phone on the left (good one) doesn't have it as bad, the light is distributed evenly. Both were on auto brightness. The good display's(right) brightness is down a bit more but it doesn't matter since I tried to increase and decrease the brightness on the defective one(left) and it made no difference.
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Blotches on an all black screen? Test yours here

Can you guys with cameras that have manual control test something for me?
Following on from a post by someone else about weird blotches on an all black image displayed on the screen, I checked mine today in pitch darkness and noticed a faint 2 inch or so of blackness on one edge of the screen along with smaller blotches. It doesn't appear to be as visible as the other poster's though but I exaggerated in in the photo so it's easier to see and settings posted below for people to check as well.
This is only visible on an all black screen. This does not exist on any of the S2's I've owned. I'll check my dad's S3 tonight when I go see him in the same way but the way to photograph it to keep the results consistent are as follows:
Stick camera and phone in a cupboard and...
Phone screen brightness: 50%
Camera ISO: 200
Camera Shutter: 15 seconds
Camera Aperture: f/4.5
Remember to pre-focus and use the 10sec timer to avoid shake
Those settings will over exaggerate the effect as shown in my photo below but it makes it easier for everyone to see as you do have to focus your eyes in reality and it's not immediately obvious unless you're in pitch darkness and looking at an all black screen.
I don't know how I feel about this though but if it's visible using the above camera settings for lots of people then I'll leave it as is.
Again, it's only visible on an all black screen so make sure your image that you load is all black and not grey or something Make sure screen timeout is set to at least a minute to avoid the screen going off!
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Thanks!
I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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What free app? It's a black image with screen timeout extended. The rest is your camera settings to be able to fairly photograph the screen for everyone to compare, an app can't do that
ronj1986 said:
I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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Which free app? What exactly did you do in order to notice them?
Did you see these threads Robbie?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700350
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686633
I didn't see those nope! Thanks for the links. Seems strange though as the white S3 belonging to my dad has none of the blotches, neither does a pebble blue on another forum. My 2 S2 handsets had no issues either.
Oh well!
My first phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 20sec)
Second phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 30sec)
The guy at the store (**** Smith in Australia) was unable to reproduce the issue in-store, so swapped the phone out and said I'd have to go to samsung if I reported the same issue again. The 2nd phone still has the issue, but as you can see, nowhere near as bad... still... not very good is it.
My 2 year SGS1 had about 4 spots - never noticed any issue. The first SGS3 was definitely noticeable just scrolling through system menus at night.
That's rather bad^^ I've emailed mobiflefun with picture so let's see what they say.
Suggest you up your exposure (duration and/or ISO) to make it a bit more noticeable. Looks like you've got a fair amount of guff in the top-left corner.
:/ dodgy manufacturing.
I don't have an SGSIII yet, but I noticed pretty much this same thing on my Galaxy Note. One night I was viewing an image with an all black screen and it had these weird blotches on the screen. I had never noticed them before.
Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
Northern-Loop said:
Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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I have it too. Looks like a crack from the inside out on the bottom left corner.
I can see it in Settings/led notification screen at the bottom at night with screen brightness low.
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mobilehavoc said:
This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
I saw around 10 to 15 blotches on my screen,not at all noticable in everyday use only when i looked very closely i saw them scattered around the middle.As its my first amoled phone,i want to know is it harmful for the screen?Shd i ask for replacement?Though i dont have any pink spots or tints watsoever.
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Aridon said:
My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
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My 4 GNexus did.
Wow this looks like a widespread issue. Samsung needs to know about this
I assume samsung knew even before shipping the units.
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Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This "issue" is known since the SGS1. Is the leakege from the AMOLED display. One thing to consider i only have a line about half a CM in the same place where you have the circle mark. Maybe a manufacture failure?
quicker way to test.
1 - dark room
2 set auto brightness off and screen to lowest brightness.
go to phone and dial *#0*#
click vibrate test which will display black screen.
and then check....
p.s been through this in other threads here but mky local telco had 26 with this issue went to another telco and got a blue one today - and no issue whatsoever...

Nexus 7 brightness problems

Just got the nexus 7, but...
When I change the brightness through the power-control widget or settings/brightness, on or close to the lowest level it turns off the display completely. I can't see anything no matter what the lighting condition is. Is this a software bug? I don't see how I can turn it back easily.
Another problem, when reading book, the light from the left bezel bleeds and I have a darker top-left corner. It is kind of annoying.
I also have the flickering problem when the brightness is set on the mid brightness... software updated right after startup.
cccxyz said:
Just got the nexus 7, but...
When I change the brightness through the power-control widget or settings/brightness, on or close to the lowest level it turns off the display completely. I can't see anything no matter what the lighting condition is. Is this a software bug? I don't see how I can turn it back easily.
Another problem, when reading book, the light from the left bezel bleeds and I have a darker top-left corner. It is kind of annoying.
I also have the flickering problem when the brightness is set on the mid brightness... software updated right after startup.
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Anyone have the screen completely off when turning the brightness down?
I also happen to have eight stuck (white) pixels...
Yeah, I have a very similar problem to what you described.
Check out my pics.
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My backlight bleeding is very similar.
Does your screen get completely black when the brightness is low? Now, even when I turned on the automatic, it gets complete black. Is it just me or everyone else the same?
cccxyz said:
My backlight bleeding is very similar.
Does your screen get completely black when the brightness is low? Now, even when I turned on the automatic, it gets complete black. Is it just me or everyone else the same?
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No, it does not go black at min brightness here.
I just got the Nexus 7 and the light bleed is Horrendous. I have owned a Asus Transformer before and expect some light bleed but this is really really bad. Like WTF
Jeeverz said:
I just got the Nexus 7 and the light bleed is Horrendous. I have owned a Asus Transformer before and expect some light bleed but this is really really bad. Like WTF
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Holy cow... If mine arrives like that I'll be requesting a replacement.. That's insane!
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Mine looked exactly, so I went back to staples for a replacement. Luckily, they have one left. The bleeding on the new one is unnoticeable and the brightness settings are all normal.
cccxyz said:
Mine looked exactly, so I went back to staples for a replacement. Luckily, they have one left. The bleeding on the new one is unnoticeable and the brightness settings are all normal.
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Wow. I thought my transformer bled light bad. I'm not feeling so bad now. Of course it has some other weird issues, but has been mostly reliable. If it acts up too much I'll just send it back. I've had it for almost 30 days and can't find any real reason to take it back. It reboots every once in a while if it gets overloaded or too hot (did it today in the sun..of course I had it overclocked too.....) and I've opened the dock to see that it has shut down for some reason, but its not a huge deal. Other users have reported the same, so clearly something isn't perfect. I came to this thread because I heard that the nexus has huge issues. I was curious to see what people were reporting. if I got a nexus like that I would be p****ed! There are reports of them locking up on startup. My transformer just keeps chugging along. Really I've had more problems with apex launcher than ICS on my tf300t.
edit: the light bleed is barely noticable on mine actually...only in darkness does it seem bad. I heard ips displays have issues with that, so took it as good enough for "spec" and really its not all that detractable unless I sit in perfect darkness. Video looks pretty great on the display.

Light bleed ANSWER FOUND

I got an10 and I would like to know how to tell if there is light bleed? I've seen people speak of it but I don't see where anyone says how to check if I have it and I only have a few days left before I can return it. thanks to those who may help me cue in on this problem to see if I have it.
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Download a light bleed app from Google Play and shut the lights off and see.
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Here's the link to the app in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeleveque.backlightbleedtest
Fair warning, though: be prepared to contract a bad case of OCD.
NO. WHY?
All caps aside, if you don't notice it I wouldn't look for it. Because once you find it, it'll probably stick to your mind for a long time.
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CWalkop said:
NO. WHY?
All caps aside, if you don't notice it I wouldn't look for it. Because once you find it, it'll probably stick to your mind for a long time.
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Exactly right. If light bleed is so bad that it really bothers you then by all means return the device and try to get a better one, but if you can't even tell if the problem exists don't go looking for it. All you have to gain is dissatisfaction with an otherwise good device. Watch some movies, use the device as you normally would, and if it looks good to you don't worry about light bleed again.
JasW said:
Here's the link to the app in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeleveque.backlightbleedtest
Fair warning, though: be prepared to contract a bad case of OCD.
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Or you have the same experience I had. Little to no appreciable light bleed. My first N10 had none, but had a small fracture/defect in the glass (you'll see my image in the light bleed forum).
Second one, a nickle sized but very dim bleed and only seen when in a closet with the door closed and no light.
Acceptable.
Loving mine. I have a small "chipping" in the top glass, also minimal light bleed.
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SeaFractor said:
Or you have the same experience I had. Little to no appreciable light bleed. My first N10 had none, but had a small fracture/defect in the glass (you'll see my image in the light bleed forum).
Second one, a nickle sized but very dim bleed and only seen when in a closet with the door closed and no light.
Acceptable.
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I took another picture the other day in a closet, since the first one I posted in another thread gave the screen a purplish glow due to the angle. Also, the Backlight Bleed app icons were at the bottom of the screen so I turned the N10 upside down for this one. The white icons are overexposed, which I suppose means the bleed in the photo may be exaggerated to some extent, but it seems pretty accurate as to the extent itself. Again, 100% brightness in a dark closet. I'm telling myself I can live with it.
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If you go looking for a problem - you will find one. Even if there was not one to begin with.
I am on my 6th unit. I've had it for a week, and I've been using it constantly. It appeared to have minimal bleeding upon opening. After a week of "breaking it in," however, the bleed in the bottom left corner is quite apparent. Anything brighter than auto-brightness and it's noticeable in any setting or on any screen. I'm just tired of gambling with every return. I mean...this is my 6th one. *lol*
Judge for yourself.

Backlight bleeding issues.

Anyone noticing the backlight bleeds in the dark and at low brightness? It looks pretty horrible on my unit. It's looks similar to the backlight bleed on the kindle paper white.
http://i.imgur.com/W2E6RMW.jpg
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That looks like a bad case.
But yeah, these threads are everywhere.
Mine does not do that my my first one had bad light bleed I took it back my 2nd one is good almost no light bleed. You should take that one back if you can.
My G Pad looks exactly like that. I'm very tempted to exchange it but now Newegg is out of stock. =(
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Mine was not that bad, but had a blue line and significant bleed in all corners, - How common is backlight bleeding on these? Not many reviewers seems to mention it?
I'm returning my G Pad to Newegg in hopes of getting another with less backlight bleeding. I'll report here when I receive the new one.
Oh wow yeah i would return that, i have light bleed but it only drives me crazy when a game or moive goes to a black screen, i don't want to return it and get something even worst, it's a shame we pay so much money for this stuff to have screen problems.
Change the theme of the screen buttons to black and you will hardly see the leaks.
I have this issue too ;/
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i have some problem
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That is really bad bleed in the first post! Send that back.
I have the blue line, but zero backlight bleed.
Wow that's not bleed that's a friggin light show, get it t replaced.
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I had two Gpad with the same light bleed problem...
This suck because a tablet is mainly a screen.
MrGBD said:
I had two Gpad with the same light bleed problem...
This suck because a tablet is mainly a screen.
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i just replaced and now i have no light bleed
exchange to new one
My tablet has a little backlight bleed in dark backgrounds in maximum brightness but I think that's normal for this screen technology. It's not that bad. Fortunately, I don't have the backlight bleed in white background. However, this is what I saw on the display on the store...
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I have the same issue on mine. 7 little light projectors symmetrically placed appear at the bottom side of the screen at low brightness, 20-25%.
People say it's very common on these types of screens. The thing is how bad is that bleed effect.
Mine is like that too. Anyway if you don't see this kind of light bleed, you see it the wrong way. Set the brightness to very low and change background to white (you won't see it with black background), rotate it in landscape mode. You will see it. Those bleeds are at the bottom only. This is very weird. This is the first time I've seen this type of light bleed. Deal breaker for me. I'm returning mine.
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Mine is like that too. Anyway if you don't see this kind of light bleed, you see it the wrong way. Set the brightness to very low and change background to white (you won't see it with black background), rotate it in landscape mode. You will see it. Those bleeds are at the bottom only. This is very weird. This is the first time I've seen this type of light bleed. Deal breaker for me. I'm returning mine.
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Yeah I can see why. When you get that urge to set the brightness down to 5%, rotate it in landscape and change the background to white, you want it to be perfect. I understand....
woody1 said:
Yeah I can see why. When you get that urge to set the brightness down to 5%, rotate it in landscape and change the background to white, you want it to be perfect. I understand....
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You'll run into this situation someday. When the battery goes low and you're on Chrome, for instance. Indeed I mostly use tablet in portrait, and I admit that I wouldn't find out this issue if I didn't come here. But I'm picky lol.. So yeah. If this issue doesn't affect you then it's great.
rookiegenius said:
You'll run into this situation someday. When the battery goes low and you're on Chrome, for instance. Indeed I mostly use tablet in portrait, and I admit that I wouldn't find out this issue if I didn't come here. But I'm picky lol.. So yeah. If this issue doesn't affect you then it's great.
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Trust me, it doesn't. And even if someday the situation arose where I was forced to turn the brightness down to a very low level and use landscape on a white background for a few minutes, I think I could survive. But hey, you've got to do what you have to do.

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