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The Motorola Flipout is fairly easy to root, at least now. Universal Androot (get it here) works.
I am thinking about moving apps to the sd card. However, since I haven't reflashed the phone, and I don't have a ROM for it, I'd like to do it without reflashing. Is that possible?
If I partition an SD card correctly (ext3), copy all of /data onto that partition, and then mount that partition over /data, will that work? Or do I have to mount the card before the phone boots?
Or is it better to just copy /data/data, and mount the partition over /data/data?
It seems to me that mounting over a directory, as opposed to creating a link is least invasive, because on reboot the phone is as it was before. Is this right?
If I have to mount the sdcard before the phone boots, can I just edit one of the init scripts, or is that more complicated? I read about editing init.rc and repacking boot.img
Oh, HOWTO unpack edit and repack boot images seems to give good instructions. On the Flipout, boot is mtd4, and recovery is mtd5.
If I only modify boot, I can't brick my phone too badly? Since I haven't changed recovery, I should be able to recover (?). Can I create an update.zip that flashes the old boot.img and undoes my changes in case something goes wrong?
I just got the flipout from rogers.. Is there anyplace that has a development forum for it? And does it have the efuse ? If it does, is it possible to do what was done with the droid X to it?
How did go so far ghostwheel? I'm eager to hear what else you have figured out.
You use App2Card.apk at below for app2sd without flash:
http://www.tinhte.vn/f280/app2card-2-4-4-20-9-cai-dat-ung-dung-len-nho-phan-vung-456586/
Requires: just a rooted phone
Steps:
- install app
- click Menu / Partition button then use slide bars to create ext2 for your sd card if it hasn't been splited yet
- click Install App2card button
- phone will be rebooted and you just taste app on sd after then
Note: above page has further instruction but it is vietnamese, you must use google translate to get it. This app runs perfectly on my Milestone.
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ghostwheel said:
The Motorola Flipout is fairly easy to root, at least now. Universal Androot (get it here) works.
I am thinking about moving apps to the sd card. However, since I haven't reflashed the phone, and I don't have a ROM for it, I'd like to do it without reflashing. Is that possible?
If I partition an SD card correctly (ext3), copy all of /data onto that partition, and then mount that partition over /data, will that work? Or do I have to mount the card before the phone boots?
Or is it better to just copy /data/data, and mount the partition over /data/data?
It seems to me that mounting over a directory, as opposed to creating a link is least invasive, because on reboot the phone is as it was before. Is this right?
If I have to mount the sdcard before the phone boots, can I just edit one of the init scripts, or is that more complicated? I read about editing init.rc and repacking boot.img
Oh, HOWTO unpack edit and repack boot images seems to give good instructions. On the Flipout, boot is mtd4, and recovery is mtd5.
If I only modify boot, I can't brick my phone too badly? Since I haven't changed recovery, I should be able to recover (?). Can I create an update.zip that flashes the old boot.img and undoes my changes in case something goes wrong?
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Hi,
I'd really like to help with that (I'm a confirm dev. for Cliq and CliqXT phones).
Hopefully we can do great things like we did for Cliq and CLiqXT (upgrade to 2.1!). (check my work at http://bit.ly/adlxmod).
First thing would be to generate a system dump (a dump of all the files in the /system partition). Hopefully we then could generate a custom recovery to flash on the phone, and then custom roms, either base on the dump you provide or other roms from other files. Contact me on twitter @adumont (say it's for Flipout) and I'll guide you to generate the dump!
Looking forward to do great things for that litle phone!
I'm in touch with adlxdum to give him my dump but I think we should start a separated thread like "Custom rom, modding (work in progress)" so that we can follow adlxdum work.
And...thx in advance ;-)
flusshd said:
You use App2Card.apk at below for app2sd without flash:
http://www.tinhte.vn/f280/app2card-2-4-4-20-9-cai-dat-ung-dung-len-nho-phan-vung-456586/
Requires: just a rooted phone
Steps:
- install app
- click Menu / Partition button then use slide bars to create ext2 for your sd card if it hasn't been splited yet
- click Install App2card button
- phone will be rebooted and you just taste app on sd after then
Note: above page has further instruction but it is vietnamese, you must use google translate to get it. This app runs perfectly on my Milestone.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
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Worked!
I couldn't repartition the SD card with the program, so I had to partition it myself. But once that was done, thing seem to work well. A bit slower...
I'm not totally sure how to use the app. Internal seems to still be full, but ext2 on the SD is quite empty. I can't seem to be able to tell if an app is installed to internal or external.
I have to try and install some more apps to see if I run out of memory.
Thanks!!
I'm guessing the flipout and charm are almost identical phones?
My wife has a charm and i'm one of those "i'm not a developer, but I'd like to help" guys.
MrShides said:
I'm guessing the flipout and charm are almost identical phones?
My wife has a charm and i'm one of those "i'm not a developer, but I'd like to help" guys.
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Yes, I think they are very similar.
One thing that I'm interested in is the accelerometer. On the Flipout, most apps that use it are twisted - for example wikitude, and many games (labyrinth lite works!) I wonder if things work on the charm...
the charm has the same issue.
MrShides said:
the charm has the same issue.
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thanks! Too bad....
Hi ghostwheel
I've tried installing app2card, but I'm having some problems. I got the new version 2.7.2.
As you said, the partition doesnt work. For me it says sd card is full but its empty...
How did you manually partition it?
I've found some tutorials but it was for other phones and they required a custom rom...
I partitioned the card using a linux computer, with the program fdisk.
I allocated 2GB to a partition of type ext2. But, I think there are many alternatives for partitioning a disk, see this page:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f9/how-to-create-ext2-partition-14232/
Wow great link! Many different options! Will try this as soon as I get a micro sd card adapter. Thanks!
You mentioned in your old post that you were having problems using app2card, That you weren't sure if it was working. Have you been able to use it since? Is it working well? and if not have you found an alternative?
I just started using this phone and I'm almost running out of memory... this is quite annoying!
longlife_01 said:
You mentioned in your old post that you were having problems using app2card, That you weren't sure if it was working. Have you been able to use it since? Is it working well? and if not have you found an alternative?
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Yes, I was having problems. Mainly when restarting the phone, sometimes oodles of apps don't work, including launcher pro, and app2card. You have to remember that when the phone reboots and seems to have FC problems, don't chose any home screen as the default, in case it crashes, and keep a spare app2card to reinstall on the sdcard. I think "severe" problems I had only twice, or so.
So, I have almost no problems. Most of the time it works really well. So well, in fact, that I'm a bit afraid to upgrade it, in case something breaks. And, I totally forgot what it is like to have to delete apps to install another one.
I have more of the opposite problem - finding an app among all those installed takes a realllly long time if you forgot its name. Apps organizer helps.
hello, i am new and i have flipout to test in poland orange network, i just root him using 1st post in this forum, great job! thanks
OK, I am having some problems with the current version of app2card. As I said, sometimes when I turn the device off and back on, app2card fails, and many apps give a FC which starting. Then one needs to fix the apps from app2card. It seems that once that is done, some apps lose some of their data. So, for example, droidwall (excellent program!!), lost all firewall data. I'll have to check if newer versions of app2card don't have this problem. It doesn't happen very often.
Instructions to root Flipout
Hi - I'd consider myself a newbie regarding rooting. I just got the AT&T Flipout - I really like the form factor. I just tried running the Universal Androot from my phone but got the security warning message about only being able to install from trusted sources.
Can someone point me in the right direction please?
Many thanks!
it says that with a lot of apps installed like that, including gmote that I downloaded from the developers site. Just look at what you're downloading like you would on any machine
go to settings > Application and tick on unknown sources to be able to install it.
i really confuse right now, i read all thread bout app2sd for 3 day, and i still can't get app2sd work on my xperia x8.
i rooted with superoneclick, installed xrecovery, done partitioning. can any dev or someone help me please.
im using eclair 2.1 on x8.
i tried app2sd with xrecovery many times.
where might i've gone wrong?
if possible, please post me a more noobish tutorial because, i having a really hard time installing these.
this is HOW-TO http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8579902#post8579902
Tehouster said:
this is HOW-TO http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8579902#post8579902
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thanks!
worked for me!
when i enter cmd
type cd /adb
it says
the system cannot find the path specified
whats wrong then??
you must enter superoneclick folder to acces adb.exe.
ex : "c:\superoneclick\adb shell" will work.
i'm done installinng it, but when i search and install an app from the market, my internal memory decrease.
did i done anything wrong here?
i have attach a pic from dos.
ok, i'm waiting to see what happenes here....as we can't have the 2.2 update i need apps to sd.
Alot of this isn't making much sense to me, so can anyone help me decifer this lot
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i really confuse right now, i read all thread bout app2sd for 3 day, and i still can't get app2sd work on my xperia x8.
i rooted with superoneclick, installed xrecovery, done partitioning. can any dev or someone help me please.
im using eclair 2.1 on x8.
i tried app2sd with xrecovery many times.
where might i've gone wrong?
if possible, please post me a more noobish tutorial because, i having a really hard time installing these.
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try Link2sd works on x8 > click here
Its very easy to install and better than app2sd !
WORKS!!!! thanks guys~
you guys the BEST!!
but one more thing, when i install an app, it save 80% of memory to sd,
and 20% of it in internal memory...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is normal right?
Did you install the one that moves dalvik cache to card? I think it's pretty normal then. Mine is also like that.
i install it from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8579902#post8579902
but my internal memory decrease now...
i got 56Mb free space for internal storage..
So, you need to use that method with these files: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880387
Otherwise cache is created into phone.
this means i have to uninstall current app2sd using the 'cmd' then
install back with 'app2sd mod (dalvik cache to sd) zip' into the root of my sd card right?
I guess so. It's your call. Check also in Android Development threads. use search There were some similar problems.
Redpik said:
I guess so. It's your call. Check also in Android Development threads. use search There were some similar problems.
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after i successfully instaled app2sd, which my internal memory is 156 mb after i reinstall all my apps, my x8 cannot connect wifi....
why this is happening???!
hello people, this is my first post here. It's been a week since I got a new x8, and I can't seem to get going with it, I'm always hounded with problems. Before posting I looked up the web for possible answers on my questions and queries, but I found too many guides and I don't know which to follow. I'm a former symbian user, and to be honest I'm a little dissapointed with the android's complexity. Here are some of what i'm curious about.
-.JAR/JAVA programs. I could only find J2ME runner, but in order to convert my .jar to apk it needs to connect to the internet? Isn't there an offline process/another program that runs .jar files?
-CANNOT save to memory card. It's frustrating. all games I install come straight to the phone memory, is there a real way to transfer it to my memory card?
-NO multi-touch. I don't know why but upon reading I found out that an early prototype of the x8 had multi-touch, but now it has none.. any way to activate this?
-GAMES always demand to connect to the internet to download additional data.
-INTERNET connects automatically from the start, IDK why,
sorry If i have lots of questions, and sorry for my english it's not my native language.. Hope I get help here.. Thank you very much and I hope the developers here continue on excelling on their work.
EDIT: now I have managed to root using superoneclick, installed busybox, and the xrecovery. I managed to go to the recovery and install the apps2sd, it said successful but it still installs to phone memory. I now installed link2sd, did a partition on my sd card, but when I rebooted my x8 everything on the sd card was gone, and some of the programs installed on the phone memory doesn't display their icons.. what happened? I need help.. thank you again..
nowonanx8 said:
hello people, this is my first post here. It's been a week since I got a new x8, and I can't seem to get going with it, I'm always hounded with problems. Before posting I looked up the web for possible answers on my questions and queries, but I found too many guides and I don't know which to follow. I'm a former symbian user, and to be honest I'm a little dissapointed with the android's complexity. Here are some of what i'm curious about.
-.JAR/JAVA programs. I could only find J2ME runner, but in order to convert my .jar to apk it needs to connect to the internet? Isn't there an offline process/another program that runs .jar files?
-CANNOT save to memory card. It's frustrating. all games I install come straight to the phone memory, is there a real way to transfer it to my memory card?
-NO multi-touch. I don't know why but upon reading I found out that an early prototype of the x8 had multi-touch, but now it has none.. any way to activate this?
-GAMES always demand to connect to the internet to download additional data.
-INTERNET connects automatically from the start, IDK why,
sorry If i have lots of questions, and sorry for my english it's not my native language.. Hope I get help here.. Thank you very much and I hope the developers here continue on excelling on their work.
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About the java programs, i do not know.
Saving to SD is not a feature in Android 2.1. However, you can get it to work by rooting your phone and installing Apps2sd. There is several guides here on how to do it.
The digitizer is capable for multi/dual touch, but this is something SE has not included in the latest software updates.
Some games needs additional data to be downloaded.
Internet is activated by default. By going into settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile network settings - And uncheck "Data Enabled" then you will be able to disable internet.
JasoX said:
About the java programs, i do not know.
Saving to SD is not a feature in Android 2.1. However, you can get it to work by rooting your phone and installing Apps2sd. There is several guides here on how to do it.
The digitizer is capable for multi/dual touch, but this is something SE has not included in the latest software updates.
Some games needs additional data to be downloaded.
Internet is activated by default. By going into settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile network settings - And uncheck "Data Enabled" then you will be able to disable internet.
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thanks. should have known earlier that these features aren't available for x8.. can you please link to me the easiest/best step by step guide for apps2sd and root? Thanks for your help.
nowonanx8 said:
thanks. should have known earlier that these features aren't available for x8.. can you please link to me the easiest/best step by step guide for apps2sd and root? Thanks for your help.
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link to root ur X8 the easiest method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906195
feel free to ask anything
Thanks man, I've found that superoneclick earlier, did it, also did the xrecovery process, I've installed the apps2sd and the davlik to sdcache but it doesn't work.. it says it was successfully installed but the apps/games still install to my phone memory.
I've been at this all day. no luck... any more assisstance?
nowonanx8 said:
Thanks man, I've found that superoneclick earlier, did it, also did the xrecovery process, I've installed the apps2sd and the davlik to sdcache but it doesn't work.. it says it was successfully installed but the apps/games still install to my phone memory.
I've been at this all day. no luck... any more assisstance?
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i didn't recommend you app2sd,dont know y coz i prefer link2sd..same function,but imho link2sd much better.
link2sd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
I tried links2sd, made a partition with my sd card, but when I restarted my phone everything on the sd card was gone, as well as some icons and programs installed on the phone memory dissapeared..
nowonanx8 said:
I tried links2sd, made a partition with my sd card, but when I restarted my phone everything on the sd card was gone, as well as some icons and programs installed on the phone memory dissapeared..
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what? are u sure?..i'm also a beginner like u..im just follow the ins in link2sd thread..everything works fine for me..did u format ur sd card?..
kecil26 said:
what? are u sure?..i'm also a beginner like u..im just follow the ins in link2sd thread..everything works fine for me..did u format ur sd card?..
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No.. the instructions on the link said that the sdcard doesn't need to be reformatted.
thanks by the way for replying and offering your assistance.
nowonanx8 said:
No.. the instructions on the link said that the sdcard doesn't need to be reformatted.
thanks by the way for replying and offering your assistance.
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did u make backup of ur sd?..no prob..im free rite now
Yeah I have duplicates of the files on my hard drive, mostly they are apk game files. I'd try again my x8 later, something urgent came up.
the programs installed on the phone memory disappeared, and on the menu where they should be located the menu is empty. still I can't figure out why programs don't install in my memory card...
it seems like a huge problem..how bout repair it through pc companion?..but everything will be liked out of the box phone.
but this is what I did. I factory reset the phone, and I see that it is still rooted. Unfortunately I have to download from the marketplace again. Internet is very slow here. but from here, what do I do to install to memory card? thanks..
from what i noe,factory reset only clear your data and didnt touch your rom..if you want start form there..i recommend you to format ur sd card first..but backup all ur data first..use card reader to create the partition..create fat partition first then create ext2 partition..then install link2sd..let say u have 2gb sd..make 1.5gb to fat and balanced goes to ext2 partition..i dont recommend ext3 and ext4 partition..mybe there's is conflit..use MiniTool Partition Wizard to reformat and create the partition..i did it on the first try,everything goes fine.
or maybe u can used fat32 for second partition..when i read at the link2sd thread,fat32 been recognize by all phone..the thread has been updated,i used ext2 partition..and everything works fine till now..
im sory if my instruction bricked ur phone..im also a beginner,and am answering ur quest within my range of knowledge..what i've tell you here is what i've test on my phone and it didnt bricked my phone..
ok, I'm gonna try that and I'd feedback the results to you.. thanks.
good luck and be careful when messing ur phone ..remember to always backup before start,if anything goes wrong.
after lots of trials and errors, I have managed to get the links2sd working. now after I install a game, and I select create link in link2sd, will that automatically be transferred to the sd card?
and should I include the "include devlik cache"?
yes,for every application that u install..click create link and yes u should checked that include delvik cache ..i suggest u to install all app first then create link then reboot ur phone
Hello XDA. I have Se X8 only one week but i know something about android mobile-phones..
I have rooted mobile ..
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH
QUESTIONS:
1.
Today i wanted download apps from Market but it didnt work..
I push download and then it says downloading and then nothing happens..
I searched forums and they says i need to go to the Options and aplications and remove memory on some apps like Google Talk,Market,etc.
I tried all but it didnt work..
How can i repair this?
2.
What is ROM and what is BEST rom for X8..
3.
I have installed a Glow Hockey 2 , Doodle Jump, RObo Defense, NFS SHIFT, mVideoPlayer QQplayer
And these dont work Modern comb , FAST 5
When i push Modern Comb it 5 secs nothing then black screen for 0,2 second and again nothing.. Im back to menu.
when i want play FAST 5 i see black screen with FAILLOFT logo and then ,, A problem occured and the download could not be completed successfully Do you want to restart download? Yes>> Checking file requires.... ... . . . . . And again A problem occured....... . . . ..
Where is problem?
4.
I downloaded Plants VS zombies and it says Little space:Remove some files and try again.
After i deleted some of my good apps and games it still not working..
Where is problem?
1. What sort of connection? If you have a poor wifi connection it may take some time to download... Also if you internal memory is full you won't be able to download anything more
2. The best for me is FroyoBread But you may argue on that
3. Never used those, but X8's hardware may simply be not enough for some high-end-device apps. For example you won't play latest asphalt on X8. There also may be an version issue. Try to find as many versions as you can and look for one that works with X8
4. How big are the apk files? Remember, no matter what you do, you won't have more than, say, 100-120 MB of internal space...
1.
My Wi-Fi connection is really good.. Fast enough for download Market apps.
2.
I dont know what is FroyoBeard and what is OC 768 MHz.. If i ask you, can you write me on Skype and help me with adding Froyobeard and OC 768 MHz ?
3.
Ok
4.
Plants VS zombies
psvzs10.apk
Type:FILE
Path:/sdcard
Size:48,63 MB ::: and i heard something about app2sd .. Will this work?
Ok, too many questions you could answer yourself by simply doing a little bit of search I'm not going to post whole tutorials here, but I'll give you reference links.
First of all:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921652
FroyoBread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079463
If you have problems, refer to my FAQ first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130548
OC stands for Overclocking, you may find the module thread in the thread hub I posted. App2sd or link2sd are systems that place your apps (and in some cases data) on SD card so your internal storage remains clean and you can place more apps. An app that has over 48 MB is huge indeed and may simply have not enough space to be installed
Link2sd needs rooting. It would be simpliest to google it, and you'll need to partition your SD card for it. It's best for stock SE 2.1 ROM.
If you run any custom ROM you can find in android developement area, you gonna have app2sd by default. If you'll use your default fat32 sd card partition only, then only your apps gonna be placed on SD card. If you use ext2/3/4 partition with app2sd hack, then all your INTERNAL storage apps will go to ext partition along with data, while apps "moved to SD" will go to fat32 partition and will have data on ext. Only system apps will have both apk and data in internal storage then.
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Hello thank your for that.. But please i think i need some additional help from you..
Can you contact me on Skype? Denoo9
I don't use skype, sorry
And something other where we can talk?
Hey
I am the owner of a Samsung xcover2 - s7710. I have ben looking for a Way to get cm mod installed. It is not possible to move apps to sd Card on it it seems, and Winther only 1 gb storage left I Got tired of the Samsung ROM.
I managed to get the Phoenix rooted first.
Next I Got the cwm recovery installed using odin.
Now I cannot seem to find my sd Card where the cm files are... How do I get that to show or mounted in a way?
Nxt is there a step by step tutorrial I Can use and if someone Can point me to it, on how to get the cm, I Think I have read that some caches need to be reset along the Way? So a step by step guide World be awesome.
And when I get it installed there are no apps on it is there? So I need to get some Google apps for it, and does it come in a bundle for that specific phone or is there a standard package, and how to install?
Sorry if I seem a retard, but I find it bit hard to navigate here.
And I apologize if I have misspelled alot in This msg - writing from ipad and the gawd awful keyboard and autocorrection...
Thx