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iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S II drop test

iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S II drop test

Yeah, I've posted this already, but cool nevertheless. Seems a bit fake though... I have two friends who've dropped their SGS2's from lower height and both of their screens cracked. It's a matter of luck I guess.

TheSaw said:
Yeah, I've posted this already, but cool nevertheless. Seems a bit fake though... I have two friends who've dropped their SGS2's from lower height and both of their screens cracked. It's a matter of luck I guess.
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I agree....
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Obviously, some folks have too much money!
I don't like the iphone, but I would never deliberately drop one.
The iphone has a glass back (stupid design idea), so it was obvious that it would crack.

TheSaw said:
Yeah, I've posted this already, but cool nevertheless. Seems a bit fake though... I have two friends who've dropped their SGS2's from lower height and both of their screens cracked. It's a matter of luck I guess.
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Wouldnt say it was fake but youre right, it is pretty much down to luck when you drop a phone whether it breaks or not.

Gorilla glass 4 ever

I would LOVE an iPhone 5...if it ran Android

I hate Apple, and I always will. I will never buy from Apple or support it at all...but I really wish there where Android phones that had the same hardware quality as Apple. I love my Atrix, but squeeze it, it creaks. The back is flimsy, the camera lens scratches and its all soo plasticity, and a lot of Android phones are like this. All plastic, creaky, and over all compare to Apples phones, just horribly cheep feeling. I love Android an would never move to Apple, but I still would really love an Android phone that matched iPhone 4/4s or especially iPhone 5 quality. Just don't think it'll ever happen though, sadly.

That's why hardware-wise, Apple will always dominate in that category.
I don't care what anyone says otherwise. Take off your green colored glasses if you disagree.
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This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.

nerfman100 said:
This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.
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No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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andrew.cambridge said:
No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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Yeah, not perfect.. just cut with diamonds and lasers n **** xD
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No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.

Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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That's very true. Nokias are built like tanks. And a lot of iphones owners have their screens cracked.
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Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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The part that cracks is maybe 3$ to replace online. 2 screws at the bottom. People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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andrew.cambridge said:
People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.

Atrix is actually a very nice compromise between aesthetics and tank phone. Part of the process when I pick a phone is how it looks and feels. A case changes that. Its not about looking cool or showing off. That implies I give a damn what others think.. I digress. Be ninja. Your phone is too important to drop, not to mention too damned expensive, but atrix can take it.
I've seen people holding cracked iPhones too.. usually they're also holding a joint and a skateboard. Or five things in each hand while simultaneously trying to make a call. can't blame that on apple fellas
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andrew.cambridge said:
People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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There's a big difference between a completely shattered screen vs a small flake of paint coming off of my phone from a 4 foot drop. I had an iphone 3g that the screen was completely shattered and the back shell cracked from tripping over a rock and my iphone flung. Had the same thing happen with my atrix and just a lil paint came off (and my atrix bounced and hit the side of my house) neither had cases.... moral of the story drunk txting is bad
But yeah anyway, iphones dont have the best track record when it comes to hardware durability and I want to know where you're buying a screen shipped for $3 that's as good of quality as the origional... and to your comment about the iphone 4g, I've had a sales rep sit on his brand new iphone 4gs and it shattered his screen (again no case was on the phone). I've done that several times with my atrix and a nokia with no issues.
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nerfman100 said:
No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.
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This is what I thought until I dropped the phone from chest hight onto a concrete car park floor. Gorilla glass is structurally very tough and flexible but doesn't like impact and will break along micro scratches caused by leaving your phone face down on any gritty surface. I just got a black tpu case that has a nice lip around the screen edges but is otherwise nice and discrete. I can use my lapdock fine as it fits perfectly with the connections after removing the plastic tray and it cost me around £2. I love not having a case but it's so damn hard locating good replacement digitizers for the atrix I would rather play it safe.
As for apple hardware, it does seem pretty good quality, the I phone 4/s had a really nice weight to it and I have no doubt that the new device will feel more solid than most devices on the marked (excluding the lumia devices ) how this relates to their ruggedness I'm not sure (putting a glass back on a phone really is stupid ) still I would love a sapphire crystal over my camera lense! Android manufacturers really do need to up the quality though, a phone goes with you everywhere and needs to be fairly rugged. Although the Atrix is pretty decent I do wish it was more solid.
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You can consider Razr series for the best build quality. Backcase made by kevlar and housing full of metal.

Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/

MewRai95 said:
Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/
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Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Since this a topic about iPhone vs Atrix 4G, I would like to have your opinion on the following. Currently I am not flowing with cash, and I have an iPhone 3G - I saw the Atrix 4G 16GB unlocked on ebay for like 228 (I am in Brazil so hence the unlock) So is the Atrix 4G a good phone (better than my 3G?) Can it run ICS or Jellybean thru custom roms off course, and how is it's gaming power?
Thanks

Soldier-2Point0 said:
Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Well if want Android on iPhone that's the closest you're are ever going to get. Anyway it isn't even that bad, considering the screen is up to retina standards and has pretty good specs such as a Tegra 3. Anyway disregarding the fact that it's a fake iPhone, I bet the build quality is pretty good.
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andrew.cambridge said:
Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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Me. It honestly depends what your intended use of a phone that is the final decision in this case. If you just want a phone that simply works, an IPhone is better, because its very limited in area to improve. Lots of restrictions, developer-wise.
If being able to improve performance in multiple aspects; Android all the way. What does the IPhone really offer when jailbroken? Tweaked themes? Sure, you can unlock it to be used on other carriers...but who wants just 3G?
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HTC dominates in build quality too. My old Aria was perfect in build quality to me. I have never had a phone that had like problems with the hardware. I have always gotten lucky and gotten a phone that was made well!
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Yeah, Crapple will always dominate in the crapPhone category.
Others are welcome to create their own categories which they do pretty well.
My fem uses her very special HTC Evo 3D. I want to see Crapple capable of creating a kind of similar device. Next century eventually?

HTC One Black Scuffs

Can anyone with the HTC One in black confirm that it does not scuff like the paint on the iPhone 5? I currently have an iPhone 5 and it will suck to go to another phone that is painted black.

Not seen anyone with a black HTC One yet on these forums but if they exist I am sure they will let you know.

There is a short video on YouTube that answers this. I can't post links as I am a noob here but if you search for 'HTC One Anti Scratch' you should find it.

dimgl said:
Can anyone with the HTC One in black confirm that it does not scuff like the paint on the iPhone 5? I currently have an iPhone 5 and it will suck to go to another phone that is painted black.
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paulobrien has one you can ask him.
Or you can ask the reviewer from CNET also.
Andrew Hoyle

Black is not released yet but we have been assured it is anodised. The iPhone5 was a joke arriving with chips in the paintwork out of the box! While it is VERY hard to produce things perfectly and there may be a slight flaw somewhere on the phone, some of the iPhone 5s were shocking.

Scootmien said:
There is a short video on YouTube that answers this. I can't post links as I am a noob here but if you search for 'HTC One Anti Scratch' you should find it.
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This is the video Scootmien was talking about.
http://youtu.be/_EWqPpYVE08
FWIW - I have been using an iPhone 5 since launch day without a single scratch on it (no case or protector). I do however treat my phone considerably better than most. It has never been dropped and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
Again, it all depends on how you treat the phone. Under the right conditions, I'm sure the HTC One will scratch as well. Hopefully not as easily as the iPhone though.

rotchcrocket04 said:
and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
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I thought I was the only one. :highfive:

americasteam said:
I thought I was the only one. :highfive:
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Lol - same here. My friends think I'm crazy when I grab a napkin at the bar before putting my phone down. :victory:

Bunch of crazy people here

rotchcrocket04 said:
This is the video Scootmien was talking about.
http://youtu.be/_EWqPpYVE08
FWIW - I have been using an iPhone 5 since launch day without a single scratch on it (no case or protector). I do however treat my phone considerably better than most. It has never been dropped and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
Again, it all depends on how you treat the phone. Under the right conditions, I'm sure the HTC One will scratch as well. Hopefully not as easily as the iPhone though.
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Thanks for the video. And that's okay, I don't mind a scratch here and there as my iPhone has scratches as well. But what really concerns me is CNET.co.uk's review of the HTC One Black where they mention the HTC One is actually painted, not black anodized metal, so it chips even faster than an iPhone 5. That in itself is concerning.
I really want a beautiful Android phone like this one, but unfortunately there are some things that are starting to turn me off, like the buttons that are too pushed in with the phone and the IR blaster being on the left, as well as the 2,300maH battery which would've been great for yesteryear but no so much to today's standards.
It's so hard to find a beautiful phone that performs like you want it and has top of the line specifications. I had the HTC One X and had to return it due to manufacturing defects and other problems with Sense (goddamn I hate Sense).
Sorry about that rant, just wanted to know about the black scuffs as that would be a dealbreaker for me.

Cnet.co.uk review got it wrong, it's not painted. It's anodized for sure.
Op, can you change the topic to: .... does not scuff?

dimgl said:
Thanks for the video. And that's okay, I don't mind a scratch here and there as my iPhone has scratches as well. But what really concerns me is CNET.co.uk's review of the HTC One Black where they mention the HTC One is actually painted, not black anodized metal, so it chips even faster than an iPhone 5. That in itself is concerning.
I really want a beautiful Android phone like this one, but unfortunately there are some things that are starting to turn me off, like the buttons that are too pushed in with the phone and the IR blaster being on the left, as well as the 2,300maH battery which would've been great for yesteryear but no so much to today's standards.
It's so hard to find a beautiful phone that performs like you want it and has top of the line specifications. I had the HTC One X and had to return it due to manufacturing defects and other problems with Sense (goddamn I hate Sense).
Sorry about that rant, just wanted to know about the black scuffs as that would be a dealbreaker for me.
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iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-19682542-156784/iPhone5WTF.jpg
We are told that the Black one is anodized, but as nobody has a black one yet, we don't know for sure. It will be April before anyone has one I understand.

jonstatt said:
iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-19682542-156784/iPhone5WTF.jpg
We are told that the Black one is anodized, but as nobody has a black one yet, we don't know for sure. It will be April before anyone has one I understand.
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While I'm not trying to start a war here, because I don't know this stuff as well as some others, I do know that the iPhone is anodized.
A large part of an anodizing process (and it's overall resistance against scuffs/scratches) comes down to the type of metal and its hardness (tempered vs. non-tempered) along with depth, dye, and the finishing process itself. Anodizing is quite a bit different than just spraying some paint on something and moving along - however, it does have the ability to chip/scuff almost just as easily (depending on the process and materials used).

rotchcrocket04 said:
Lol - same here. My friends think I'm crazy when I grab a napkin at the bar before putting my phone down. :victory:
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that is crazy. :d

jonstatt said:
iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
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this guy doesn't understand what anodized means...

"Now, after using the phone for more than a week, I can say it’s surely one of the best phones out there, if not the best. It’s got issues, for example, with the pretty finish chipping off, but I’m been very impressed in other areas like battery life and camera."
this is from one of the reviews. do not trust the video on youtube.

Don't forget the guy in that review clearly states he DID put the one and his keys in the same pockets for a week to get these dents.

epicfailguy2 said:
Don't forget the guy in that review clearly states he DID put the one and his keys in the same pockets for a week to get these dents.
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but to be fair, you do carry other stuff in your pocket..
within a week is a poor result to be honest.
Silver is the way to go

to be fair i make a point of never putting anything in a pocket that my phone is in.
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but to be fair, you do carry other stuff in your pocket..
within a week is a poor result to be honest.
Silver is the way to go
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I don't. Never did, and the time I went to a show and put my SII in a zippered pocket I got nasty scuffs, when the taking out.
But the pocket with the phone, is always the phone alone...

Different cameras in Xperia Z?

So I ended up buying a 2nd hand Xperia Z with defect motherboard, screen was fine so I changed over the hardware from my cracked screen phone to the new one. Noticed that the back camera part looked different from the 2 phones. So was wondering if anyone know if there is 2 different cameras in Xperia Z? And if so which is the better one
One looked like this: http://img.tvc-mall.com/uploads/details/SONO-C6603-04-1.jpg
The other one like this: http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server5...camera_01__64883.1380359600.1024.1024.jpg?c=2

dnagel said:
So I ended up buying a 2nd hand Xperia Z with defect motherboard, screen was fine so I changed over the hardware from my cracked screen phone to the new one. Noticed that the back camera part looked different from the 2 phones. So was wondering if anyone know if there is 2 different cameras in Xperia Z? And if so which is the better one
One looked like this: http://img.tvc-mall.com/uploads/details/SONO-C6603-04-1.jpg
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I'm not sure but at least they will be both 13MP.
If the connector is the same you can try, it should be compatible both.
To know which is the better one, I would bet, the one with the latest revision stamp on the lower end of the phone.
For example mine says "made in China C6603 35576205-555029-3 13W11 AAC"
"13W11" is the revision stamp where "13" stands for year 2013 and "W11" stands for week 11.
So mine is from week 11 2013.
You could compare both phones and put the camera lens from latest revision.
I think Sony would only try to improve each revision and don't put a less lens in newer model.
Good luck!

The second one looks basically the same, its just missing the padding around the assembly and has a different colour flex...? OEM's can change in between production batches, so materials and dyes also change, but they'd be functionally identical.
With that said, my device is 14W07 and mine is definitely like the first one. So perhaps that is a "revision" - whether thats good or bad (cost cutting?) I can not say. Try both [emoji14]
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The second one looks basically the same, its just missing the padding around the assembly and has a different colour flex...? OEM's can change in between production batches, so materials and dyes also change, but they'd be functionally identical.
With that said, my device is 14W07 and mine is definitely like the first one. So perhaps that is a "revision" - whether thats good or bad (cost cutting?) I can not say. Try both [emoji14]
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Yea the first one got like a hexagon shape around while the second one got some other weird shape. The first one hexagon shape was sitting in my original phone made 13W10 while the other one was in a phone made 13W34. Strange if your phone was made early 2014 it looks like they went back to the first design. Interesting.

Ah right I didn't even notice the hexagon bit.
Yes that is strange. They are probably identical, just different factories or something.
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My camera was broken(death pixeles on pictures.) Ordered a replacement from aliexpress. New one is awesome, better then my original one.
Even live preview is sharper then builtin one.

eryen said:
My camera was broken(death pixeles on pictures.) Ordered a replacement from aliexpress. New one is awesome, better then my original one.
Even live preview is sharper then builtin one.
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Does it look like any of the cameras in the pictures?

dnagel said:
Does it look like any of the cameras in the pictures?
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This was i ordered from aliexpress.
Picture taken from seller add.

Hey @CosmicDan
How about the write-up of your heatsink mod? Still planning to share with us?

langeveld024 said:
Hey @CosmicDan
How about the write-up of your heatsink mod? Still planning to share with us?
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Heya,
I was going to say in Zombie thread that it seems to actually have have, somehow, lost it's effect. I get throttling now at about ~50 seconds of a StabilityTest run, just like before I even did the heatsink mod. I don't know how it changed, but it was a waste of time in the end lol....
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Have Their Been Revisions?

I know it came out recently, but have there been any hardware revisions at all? I owned part of the first batch and promptly returned due to it just feeling cheap and my AUX cable basically falling out whenever I'd plug it in.
Anyone order recently that has a newer build date and not having any hardware issues? I'm thinking of coming back to this.

Come back next December.

anglerstock said:
Come back next December.
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haha, no I don't think it will take that long.
I came from the Nexus 6, then go the 6p but returned it and got a Note 5. I didn't like the Note 5 due to TW and lack of development so I came back to my Nexus 6.

Sold my Nexus6 because I like this Nexus6P so much. No issues so far!

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I know it came out recently, but have there been any hardware revisions at all? I owned part of the first batch and promptly returned due to it just feeling cheap and my AUX cable basically falling out whenever I'd plug it in.
Anyone order recently that has a newer build date and not having any hardware issues? I'm thinking of coming back to this.
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I received mine about a week ago. I don't have hardware issues. Nothing about the device feels cheap to me, perhaps #bendgate and other build quality headlines got inside of your head a bit?
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I must agree that most of the issues that people are worried about is only affecting a very small portion of phones. Being an XDA member doesn't help either, since we are an extremely vocal minority. The general public simply wouldn't even notice "screen tinting" or "inconsistency of doze," etc. We just happen to surround ourselves with picky, vocal people here. Gotta look at the big picture
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rice923 said:
I must agree that most of the issues that people are worried about is only affecting a very small portion of phones. Being an XDA member doesn't help either, since we are an extremely vocal minority. The general public simply wouldn't even notice "screen tinting" or "inconsistency of doze," etc. We just happen to surround ourselves with picky, vocal people here. Gotta look at the big picture
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If you check the history it's always same people that complain or are worried about quality. You will find these guys in the LG G4 threads, Galaxy S6, Note 5 and now Nexus 6P. Nothing bad about being cautious, but it's a damn phone, just pull the trigger and enjoy. Afterall nothing built from factory is 100% perfect.

My screen was perfect, buttons colicky and body was dent or ding free. The only.issue was a loose aux port. It just felt too delicate, I don't know how to explain.
I'll probably pull the trigger again after the new year and see how the graphite coating holds up.

Haven't read about any changes to the design like they had with the grills on the N5.

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Haven't read about any changes to the design like they had with the grills on the N5.
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I just meant revision like "hey we built this wrong, let's touch it up"... Not anything like a design change or something major like that.
I remember with the Nexus 4, having a glass back, people were cracking it when laying it down; so google had LG put " nipples" on the bottom corners of the device so it wouldn't lay flat. They didn't acknowledge this change, but one month it was flat and the next it had teeny tiny bumps.

I don't think Google cares much about their customers to revise this phone. The Nexus fanboys are eating it up candy.

xdaodc said:
I don't think Google cares much about their customers to revise this phone. The Nexus fanboys are eating it up candy.
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I wouldn't say that's entirely true. I'm sure either Huawei or Google will have a revision in the coming months, though most likely nothing major.

Even if they made a revision, they wouldn't announce it. Doing so would cause an uproar from early adopters. We would have to depend on another tear down in the coming months to see if anything changes
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