Help in choosing the best one - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm planning to buy a nexus 7 for flashing purposes. Does both Wi-Fi and 3g versions flashes same kernel and roms?
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Yes and no. They are different devices and, as such, the roms are going to be slightly different between grouper and tilapia. As for kernels, I can't speak as to what's compatible with tilapia or not. Your overall best best is going to be reading up in the dev forum for the 3G to get an idea of what's available.
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Suggest which version to buy with reasons. I'll die if I don't get developer support later
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If you simply took a look in the dev threads yourself you would see how many options they each have. Its a good idea to look at the 1st post in the threads as some of the WiFi ones also say they support 3g.
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harsh.ea said:
Suggest which version to buy with reasons. I'll die if I don't get developer support later
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Okay.
You should buy whichever version that YOU feel, after careful evaluation, will fit your individual needs and circumstances better. I would strongly advise, if dev support is your key requirement, to peruse the dev subforums to get an idea of what the individual dev scenes for both devices look like. In the end, it is you that will be the one using it, not any of us. Each person has their own reasons for picking one poor the other. The bottom line I'd that it's a decision that only you can make for yourself.
That being said, the one and only reason I'd recommend Tilapia over Grouper is if you require 3G connectivity. Its not as if the dev scene for either device is lacking. They are Nexus devices, after all.
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So Wi-Fi over 3g in terms of development?
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Best for custom ROMs, 3G or WiFi?

About to buy a new nexus for Christmas and will be flashing quite a few custom ROMs but which is best for custom ROM choice, the 3G version or the WiFi version?
Perhaps this is an irrelevant question, as the ROMs can be installed on either model?
Wish somebody would tell me, as I don't want get the 3G and regret it.
Cheers
John
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3G ROM will need to have 3G build... So a lot of the stuff dominating this forum won't work properly ... It will get more support as more units get out there I guess but right now it's slim pickings
all roms work with wifi version and for 3g some work ,some not but it will change soon because developers will update their rom to work and on 3G
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DZonikg said:
all roms work with wifi version and for 3g some work ,some not but it will change soon because developers will update their rom to work and on 3G
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Thanks both of your for your comments.
In the end, I ordered a 32 gb WiFi only model as it guarantees good custom ROM support from day one and I can always tether to my phone if I need to.
Cheers
John
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For people with storage issues possible fixes in one place

Supposedly 50gig free cloud storage
http://m.androidcentral.com/lg-nexus-4-qualifies-50gb-free-boxnet-cloud-storage
For those of us coming from gs3 our drop box accounts are still good and still have 50gig.
I am continuing to find ways from our forum and other places to add possible fixes. Will update this as I find more ways or you guys tell me other ways. so I am hoping that this will become a Information thread and positive ways to overcome the storage restraints most have.
I personally am friends with a engineer who is trying to incorporate the sd card adapter trick into a case but the five volt energy that is needed to run the card is becoming a problem. As we are trying to keep case small and cost effective. My question to you is if we succeed who would be interested in having one?
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Reserved also if I posted in wrong forum please tell me and move to correct forum. I do not usually start new topics
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We're reserving posts? I'm in!
Reserved.
Edit: The 5V will most likely have to come from an external source. This is the same problem that is had with USB OTG. I am interested in the project, though.
It's the cost of battery's that we are having problems with
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Just an update we found a battery that will work we are making molds this weekend wish us luck
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Just an update we found a battery that will work we are making molds this weekend wish us luck
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Good Luck

Choosing a device for Ubuntu

looking at Canonicals system requirements for Ubuntu here, it would appear that even the nexus 4 which is the best officially supported device currently isnt up to the "Superphone" requirements. The gs4 google edition seems like a reasonable choice however it only has 16gb emmc so it too doesnt fully meet up to the superphone requirements. I am seriously considering just waiting for the first snapdragon 800 phones to ship as i would expect much better performance for ubuntu.
Do you think the snapdragon s4 pro(nexus 4), or even 600(gs4 ge) can provide a good ubuntu desktop experience?
I think that a regular 1.2Ghz Dual Core can provide a good ubuntu desktop experience.
A nexus 4 or gs4 ge probably can provide an awesome experience.
LG Optimus G could handle Ubuntu touch fairly well.
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Ehh forget the optimus G, it's all about mako.
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The "requirements" are set for phone manufactures so that when Ubuntu is ready to be released on devices the requirements should still be a top end phone. Those are not meant to be read and followed by normal users flashing over Android or something.
Well... you make a compelling argument for the nexus 4. Im really debating picking up the white model when it comes out now. However i still feel hesitant knowing the phone has already been out for 9 months and will likely have a successor in the next few months.
edit: correction its been 7 months.
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Well... you make a compelling argument for the nexus 4. Im really debating picking up the white model when it comes out now. However i still feel hesitant knowing the phone has already been out for 9 months and will likely have a successor in the next few months.
edit: correction its been 7 months.
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Moto X is probably considered its successor which will be released this summer.
If you prefer to wait I would say wait at least until its specifications is revealed.
But don't be afraid of buying the Nexus 4, it's a good choice.
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Well... you make a compelling argument for the nexus 4. Im really debating picking up the white model when it comes out now. However i still feel hesitant knowing the phone has already been out for 9 months and will likely have a successor in the next few months.
edit: correction its been 7 months.
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Nexus 5 will likely be the optimus G2 since LG is confirmed for next nexus phone. Moto x will not be related to nexus like, it'll be its on entity.
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Nexus 5 will likely be the optimus G2 since LG is confirmed for next nexus phone. Moto x will not be related to nexus like, it'll be its on entity.
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I missed the announcement saying LG would produce the next Nexus phone, when did that happen?
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I put in the order for a white nexus 4 last night! i rationalized the purchase with the fact that i can sell my gs3 to recover most of the cost, plus its white so its almost like im getting the phone at launch. :victory:
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Nexus 5 will likely be the optimus G2 since LG is confirmed for next nexus phone. Moto x will not be related to nexus like, it'll be its on entity.
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LG confirmed that LG will not make the next Nexus.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/lg-not-working-on-the-next-nexus-smartphone-372414
But you're right about the Moto X though.
Hi,
i use my S3 with ubuntu (as an app) with unity. The performance is OK, but 4.3" is a bit to small for 1280x720, so i use normaly X redirection over SSH.
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Well.. Nexus is THE developers platform for Canonical -Not gs4/htc/sony etc... So now you have 2 options:
1. Get nexus 4 now and install ubuntutouch 'official'
2. Get a (insert any phone) and pray for updates/ports
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Well.. Nexus is THE developers platform for Canonical -Not gs4/htc/sony etc... So now you have 2 options:
1. Get nexus 4 now and install ubuntutoch official
2. Get a (insert any phone) and pray for updates/ports
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Also if you go with option 2 you need to make sure the bootloader is unlocked or can be unlocked.
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For now I'm putting daily builds on my GNex... Ubuntu Touch is is no way ready for seamless desktop mode yet...
Once it all comes together, the N4 will probably get UT and see use as a daily driver. The system requirements cited in the OP are most likely for OEMs considering new hardware dedicated to Ubuntu Touch. Meanwhile, while the world waits for that dedicated hardware, the Nexus Line is obviously the smartest choice for LTS (Long Term Support) through Canonical.
Data/3g now working on N4
(27.06)
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RumoredNow said:
For now I'm putting daily builds on my GNex... Ubuntu Touch is is no way ready for seamless desktop mode yet...
Once it all comes together, the N4 will probably get UT and see use as a daily driver. The system requirements cited in the OP are most likely for OEMs considering new hardware dedicated to Ubuntu Touch. Meanwhile, while the world waits for that dedicated hardware, the Nexus Line is obviously the smartest choice for LTS (Long Term Support) through Canonical.
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If they cannot get a manufacturer to support them and out out UT devices then the Nexus devices are the smartest choice, however if they have a manufacturer that is wanting to build phones specifically for UT that would be the best thing for them to do and the smartest choice. I don't see many big manufacturers steeping forward though and I wonder if it is Google stopping them from doing so, that's a little tin hattish I know but.....
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Get a Nexus 4 or 7 and be sure to get LTS support from Canonical & Google.
Simple.
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New forum for Nexus 7?

What's the new nexus 7 going to be called. It has to have something that will distinguish it from the old one in its name. Is a new forum going to be made for it?
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It's still a nexus 7, right? So why would it get a new forum? Any specific information will usually state either nexus 7.2 or second gen or similar verbiage.
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Maybe the development forums could get separate sections, just as the 3G version has its own forum section. Would make sense that 2nd gen got its own developer forum as well, since the hardware is completely different...
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What's the new nexus 7 going to be called. It has to have something that will distinguish it from the old one in its name. Is a new forum going to be made for it?
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Check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2407

STock Deodex rom

Man I got this phone thinking I was going to be able to mod it up. basically no development and I cant even get my rom att rom Deodex
Gotta love non-developers crabbing about no development. You want to see a lack of development, go look in the note 3 forums. There's more development here than on the last 2 devices I've had at this stage of the game. What do you expect? You know you can come in and check these threads before you buy, right?
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Buy a dev a g2 ...
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