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Thoughts on time spend with a sample Galaxy Note

Hi,
I had a chance to spend some time with a sample version of the Samsung Galaxy Note. Since it was a sample I can not comment to much about that part, but I did write down my thoughts on the hardware and using a 5.3" unit as a phone.
If you feel like reading a bit about it you will find it on my blog, ftechviews.blogspot.com
/Faaborg

Thanks for sharing us, I especially like the part you explained about the UI being scaled up to fit the higher resolution screen
Though now I wonder, does the bigger screen and higher resolution really bring about any "real"and tangible result, for example, when you open the browser, can you see the letters clearly without zooming in? Also, I wonder if the stylus would fall out easily... thanks a lot
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Thanks for sharing that, I'm about to buy either a note or nexus, I really want the biggest screen possible yet still be able to carry it around in a pocket like a phone. You have convinced me the note will be ok

The browser is one one of the few places where the high resolution is put to good use. You can see most of a webpage, but the font is really small. Its readable but hard to read. Zoom ones or turn the phone in to landscape helps.
On the sample I had the stylus was almost impossible to get out, so no I would not say that it falls out easily.

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience! I've been eager to hear about how this device will perform, so news like this is appreciated.
You've already answered one question about the stylus, but how is it secured specifically? Is it magnetic or simply held by plastic? Also, how was the battery life? That's perhaps one of my major concerns so far, and I assume you've had enough time to get a basic impression.

Here is another site where someone owns a Note and has shared his experience:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note/432191-i-have-got-galaxy-note.html

The stylus is not magnetic, but is locked in bu the plastic around it. Battery life was good for such a big device. I could easily use it for an entire work day, including travel time.

Could you also test the audio quality via headphones out. was it excellent, very good, good, average or bad. How was it compared to the best mobile phone player u ve ever heard.

Would there be a 32gb version coming out??? ANyone.?

Regarding audio I primary used it for audio books. The quality is good, and the output volume it better than average. Its not the best I heard, nor is it the worst.

faaborgs said:
Regarding audio I primary used it for audio books. The quality is good, and the output volume it better than average. Its not the best I heard, nor is it the worst.
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then that means probably it uses the same crappy audio DAC as the galaxy s2. thats very sad !
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faaborgs said:
Hi,
I had a chance to spend some time with a sample version of the Samsung Galaxy Note. Since it was a sample I can not comment to much about that part, but I did write down my thoughts on the hardware and using a 5.3" unit as a phone.
If you feel like reading a bit about it you will find it on my blog, ftechviews.blogspot.com
/Faaborg
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Thanks I planning to buy a New device but you really help me to make a better decision.

Faaborg, did you have any chance to test the videoplayback on the device?
I read somewhere that playing MKV in 720p on the device showed some lagg, which is very dissapointing if it's true...

For some strange reason, what I can't explain, I did not get around to testing video playback. Sorry.

Did you see any lag while using the stylus? And was navigating through the homescreens etc. as snappy as the S II ?

There was a little lag when using the stylus, the experience was very much like the same as the HTC Flyer. All UI navigation was super quick and the same goes for installed apps and the browser.

I was thinking about getting the note, since i want a tablet and want to change my phone. Though they have not yet told anyone what market they are putting it to.
I wish they could say which carrier it would work with in USA.
The size is perfect, its thin and has a what seems to be a great pen to use.

Yes.for sure it will be available in 32GB later.
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Tegra 3 not so great as they would make us believe

iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/

Bahahahahahahahahaha
ipad2 not so great as they would make us believe ......
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My phone has a single-core processor and my tablet has a dual-core. That's pretty damn good. If I NEED computing power, I have my quad-core i7 rocking, 8 GB puffing, ATI HD5870 running laptop that can do just about anything.
Let me know when Android can run a fully-featured version of Photoshop or something better than iMovie, I'll happy jump onboard the X-core bandwagon. I might even leave Windows behind then...

Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?

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Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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The software they used is right there...GLBenchmarks and Basemark. It's exactly the same as testing your frame rates for video games that are made for different platforms, ie. Windows and OSX. The games themselves have their own engines that can show you what frame rates you're running at so why should it be any different between Honeycomb and IOS.
It's the same software...
I do remember Apple fabricating their signal bars, but not their battery life. Unlike a certain website, *cough*ENGADGET*cough*, Anandtech is a reputable tech site that is more unbiased than others.
The reasons I can believe it is true?
My iPad 2 plays EVERY single video it can play (no flash of course) without fail. My Transformer? Sometimes (more often than not) it doesn't even play 360P Youtube videos without stuttering. Pathetic if you ask me.

stuckonduhmode said:
My iPad 2 plays EVERY single video it can play (no flash of course) without fail. My Transformer? Sometimes (more often than not) it doesn't even play 360P Youtube videos without stuttering. Pathetic if you ask me.
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If your Transformer can't play SD YouTube videos, you have a setup problem of some kind. Mine doesn't stutter at all, even on HD YouTube videos. It likewise doesn't stutter at all on high bitrate transfers of my own DVDs, which are well above the resolution and bitrate of SD YouTube vids.
Also note that Anandtech themselves clearly noted that they had problems with their initial test unit, as evidenced by the increase in wifi performance and battery life with their second unit. Until they've had time to rerun all their tests, I wouldn't put much weight in any of their original numbers.

My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?

deadman3000 said:
My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?
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correct me if I'm wrong..don't think iPad can handle 720p/1080p High profile either

magicpork said:
correct me if I'm wrong..don't think iPad can handle 720p/1080p High profile either
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iPad2 plays high profile 720p smoothly (B-Frames, cabac, etc). Not with the native player, but with appstore players like AVPlayerHD.
GT 10.1 and other Tegra 2 do, too, with market players like Dice and BS but they stutter on fast action scenes. iPad2 doesn't do that. I did oc my GT 10.1 and set cpu to Interactive and that gets rid of the stutter, but for my particular 10.1 Interactive leaves the tab unstable.
Never tried 1080p high profile on iPad2.

deadman3000 said:
My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?
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If your struggling playng video, give BSplayer a try ... i tried dice player (as recommended) and NOTHING plays video better than BSplayer

Funny as I have been doing my own research on getting a tegra 3 or Ipad 2 or just nothing. YouTube videos work great for me. I have problems with ESPN videos on Tegra 2 compared to the OG Ipad. For the stutter, I like the close to 200.00, savings compared to the ipad.
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i sell and ipad2 before buying transformer.in video playing ipad2 is a bit more fluid,but at high profile 720p it is the same as tf,depend on which software you use for,but 100% lag free video you haven't with ipad2 and you haven't also with transformer.i suppose that tegra 3 chip with neon support included is more powerfull and generate more smooth and fluid videos than ipad2.personally i think that video playing is the only thing where tegra2 might be not exceeding,but not from an ipad2 chip but at least a tegra 3\exynos or newest qualcomm soc (with NEON as well)
correct me if i'm wrong mates...

Lack of NEON is the biggest let down of Tegera 2 IMHO. Reminds me of one of my friends with an aging AMD that had the clockrate but couldn't thunderbird on without newer instruction set extensions some games needed.
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goodintentions said:
Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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goodintentions said:
Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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It doesn't matter which software/platform. The software just measure how many fps at 720p the tablet can display. I think it's a fair comparison.
Does it matter in normal usage? i don't know. But it shows that the iPad2 GPU is better than the tegra 3 in this case.

deadman3000 said:
iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/
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Dont forget Honeycomb is software rendering, ICS has hardware rendering (like the iPad).

Spidey01 said:
Lack of NEON is the biggest let down of Tegera 2 IMHO. Reminds me of one of my friends with an aging AMD that had the clockrate but couldn't thunderbird on without newer instruction set extensions some games needed.
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Thisthisthis. Most of your media playback issues? This is the reason. Except for the "SD YOUTUBE LAGS OMG SO PATHETIC" guy, which either has terrible internet or is doing something very, very wrong. My TF plays back high prof 720p no problem with Dice. If tegra2 had NEON, we'd have 1080p30f.
tekkitan said:
Dont forget Honeycomb is software rendering, ICS has hardware rendering (like the iPad).
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That kinda has nothing to do with this...
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deadman3000 said:
iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/
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Uhm, I like Charlie. I really do.
But sadly, as far as his Tegra stories are concerned, he seems to live in parallel (or maybe even perpendicular) universe.
Tegra2 he ridiculed so much and went as far as to claim that it will not get a single design win ended up cornering ENTIRE goddamn tablet market. Pretty much 100% of Honeycomb devices run on T2 (whether we like it or not).
Same with his "sky is falling, Tegra roadmap slips for a whole year". Well, the roadmap might have slipped (or was that just dumb marketing projections, not the roadmap itself), but the second part of the story is that even after slip, nvidia is still a whole year ahead compared to competition (4 core Kraits are scheduled market introduction Q4Y12).
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Danny-B- said:
If your struggling playng video, give BSplayer a try ... i tried dice player (as recommended) and NOTHING plays video better than BSplayer
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Both (newest BSplayer, before ovt'11 release, it didn't even have ahardware acceleration) players are still not prefect and drop frames on panning or action scenes.
They also have bunch of non-performance issues:
-DICE player cannot playback 90% of embedded subs (and for those it can read, it will start showing them only after 30 seconds of movie have passed) out there and has ugly, undocumented GUI.
BSplayer suffers from nasty subtitle desyncing issue and its seeking implementation is utterly dysfunctional (you can only seek in random 15-30 secs jumps)
Oh, and both players suffer performance hit when streaming via SMB.
So yeah, for media consumption device(with 399-499 pricetag!; You could buy two netbooks for that money), Tegra2 tablets ****ing suck.

Of course what the Anadtech seem to conveniently "forget" is that the Transofmers display is much higher resolution than the iPad2 and therefore more pixels to populate...
Perhaps I should make a iPad2 killer tablet that 120 pixels x 120 pixels that downscales 720p video at can play at insane framerates but looks ****. I'm sure the idiots at Anadtech would love it...

CrazyPeter said:
Of course what the Anadtech seem to conveniently "forget" is that the Transofmers display is much higher resolution than the iPad2 and therefore more pixels to populate...
Perhaps I should make a iPad2 killer tablet that 120 pixels x 120 pixels that downscales 720p video at can play at insane framerates but looks ****. I'm sure the idiots at Anadtech would love it...
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Afaik both ipad and TF simply upscale the games.

Galaxy Note oscars commercial

Finally found it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN9LCARJyfw
Now THAT'S how you make a commercial, Samsung.
If you want to attack the iphone, you do something like this first, but first show someone watching video on the iphone first, then drop the note on top of it.
A 'why do this..... if you can do this'.......'
That will work 100x times better than the 'Iphone users are ninnyheads' commercials you are pushing.
- Frank

What the hell was some of that software?!?!
The document being annotated, the bar graph being manipulated, the goldfish being scribbled on by two people at the same time??

senectus said:
What the hell was some of that software?!?!
The document being annotated, the bar graph being manipulated, the goldfish being scribbled on by two people at the same time??
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May be that is what v will b gettin in "Galactic upgragde with premium suite" along with ICS

You could see that the Send button on GMail was on the bottom. ICS...

I'm liking the LTE version a lot ... I like that it doesn't have a physical button at the bottom as that's the only thing I'd change on my N7000 version ... It doesn't always sit straight and annoys me a tad

I didn't care for the Superbowl ad at all but this one is great. The anti-iPhone ads were fun to begin with but the Superbowl ad took it too far and was just silly. I hope they continue with this type of ad which shows the strengths of the device in a nicely understated way.

dhruvmalik said:
You could see that the Send button on GMail was on the bottom. ICS...
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nope, thats the Stock TW-Mail client
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Original posted updated -
Found a longer and even better version of the commercial.
They totally should have used this commercial in the super bowl.

I like this video, but just curious... Who else watched it on their Note? For me, no other video I've seen has so exemplified the grayscale rendering issue as this one. Looks horrendous.

The longer one is great. A brilliant choice of music; so much better than than the vulgarity of the Superbowl ad. The Superbowl was a missed opportunity but I hope they give this ad a decent amount of airplay. It should be used internationally as well. The international ads ,like this one which has been getting a lot of airplay in India, are decent enough but I like the above ad better. It exudes class and restraint while still showing off the capabilities of the device. It's one of the best electronics ads out there.

Very nice, far better than their other commercials...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57408110-17/galaxy-note-ad-called-most-effective-commercial-in-q1/
This Galaxy Note ad was actually ranked the most effective on US television for the first quarter of 2012.

leppo said:
I like this video, but just curious... Who else watched it on their Note? For me, no other video I've seen has so exemplified the grayscale rendering issue as this one. Looks horrendous.
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What exactly are we looking for it seems crisp and clear to me?

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What exactly are we looking for it seems crisp and clear to me?
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For me when I played it using the YouTube app and while streaming it using the default video player the grayscale issue is very visible but the blacks are black. If I play it on the browser using flash I see no grayscale issue but the blacks are gray. Haha my screen turned greenish then back to normal like a 50 times while typing this.
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For me when I played it using the YouTube app and while streaming it using the default video player the grayscale issue is very visible but the blacks are black. If I play it on the browser using flash I see no grayscale issue but the blacks are gray. Haha my screen turned greenish then back to normal like a 50 times while typing this.
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I used the app and everything isfine there, if I use the dolphin browser it is quiet pixelated, weird must be some issues software wise if its not playing right on one of them.

What the hell is that app at 0:38 with the guys drawing on the same picture from 2 different phone!!!!!! Its been bugging me since I first saw the ad on TV, me and some friends used to play a game like this online It would be great to have it on our phones.
^^^^ and lol exact same scenes except with the international model, just goes to show how easily these videos can be manipulated to look better than they actually are, watch out!

Slashed12345 said:
For me when I played it using the YouTube app and while streaming it using the default video player the grayscale issue is very visible but the blacks are black. If I play it on the browser using flash I see no grayscale issue but the blacks are gray. Haha my screen turned greenish then back to normal like a 50 times while typing this.
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Yea it looks like **** on my note too. Glad i dropped $600 to have this issue. Sorry for going off topic :/
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sparks83 said:
Yea it looks like **** on my note too. Glad i dropped $600 to have this issue. Sorry for going off topic :/
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The video is showing up badly on my note, smart TV and my laptop, I don't think the note can be blamed for it this time it seems its just a poorly encoded video.

RudiRulez said:
What the hell is that app at 0:38 with the guys drawing on the same picture from 2 different phone!!!!!! Its been bugging me since I first saw the ad on TV, me and some friends used to play a game like this online It would be great to have it on our phones.
^^^^ and lol exact same scenes except with the international model, just goes to show how easily these videos can be manipulated to look better than they actually are, watch out!
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yeah that caught my eye as well, and I still don't know what that software is...
the ability to draw on the same picture at the same time on two diff devices...

that app is zig zag
not released yet

Gaming and Netflix are a pain on this tablet

Trying to simply select a show in the Netflix app with this tablet is a complete chore. The new UI combined with the crappy hardware makes it almost impossible. Everything seems to move at about 1 frame per second when scrolling through your instant queue or the list of categories. It takes way too long to find what I'm looking for. That said, the actual video playback is fine. But this problem seems to persist in other apps. I can't play Tiny Tower because using the elevator after buildling 20+ floors is a choppy mess and takes twice as long as it should if the game ran smoothly. There's similar problems in games like TowerDefense and news apps like Pulse, where the tablet struggles to load anything. The Play Store is laughable, because once you start downloading anything the entire thing locks up until it's finished and it seems to have no ability to multitask whatsoever.
Why does this tablet exist? The hardware is ****, the price point is equally ****ty (I have the 10.1 so it's $400), and Samsung doesn't seem to care that ICS is a choppy mess with the specs. I'm incredibly disappointed.

I was thinking the same thing until I installed CM9
I was thinking the same thing until I installed CM9.
I was actually considering the Nexus 7, but am quite satisfied with the Galaxy Tab 2 7 now. With Cyanogenmod's announcement about CM10 and Jelly Bean I am pretty excited about the future of this tablet too.

Quacker said:
Trying to simply select a show in the Netflix app with this tablet is a complete chore. The new UI combined with the crappy hardware makes it almost impossible. Everything seems to move at about 1 frame per second when scrolling through your instant queue or the list of categories. It takes way too long to find what I'm looking for. That said, the actual video playback is fine. But this problem seems to persist in other apps. I can't play Tiny Tower because using the elevator after buildling 20+ floors is a choppy mess and takes twice as long as it should if the game ran smoothly. There's similar problems in games like TowerDefense and news apps like Pulse, where the tablet struggles to load anything. The Play Store is laughable, because once you start downloading anything the entire thing locks up until it's finished and it seems to have no ability to multitask whatsoever.
Why does this tablet exist? The hardware is *EDIT*, the price point is equally *EDIT* (I have the 10.1 so it's $400), and Samsung doesn't seem to care that ICS is a choppy mess with the specs. I'm incredibly disappointed.
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Odd, I have a great experience with mine and it is just rooted stock. I traded in my asus tf300 for this and so far am quite happy with its snappy performance and colorful display.
Also, your language doesn't really help nor is it allowed. Having an angry rage post on a forum really isn't going to help anyone out so I would suggest calming down next time before posting on xda developers.

Recommend you do some research b4 you just start complaining about the device and software . I'm rooted and stock factory ROM and have no complaints. Get Titanium Backup and freeze or uninstall the apps you don't use (I froze them ) and the tab is now as fast and snapy as it should b . Also no problems with Netflix
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My only experience is limited to my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. It is completely stock.
Netflix works perfectly and I do not notice any lag when browsing for movies.
During playback ,the video looks nice, much better than my iPad 2 and HP
Touchpad(Classicnerd ICS rom), but that's probably because the other two are
10-inch tablets.

I plan to try CM9 once my micro sd card arrives in the mail, but I'm not optimistic.
But you guys really don't get any lag whatsoever in the Netflix app? I'm using stock unrooted and I can barely scroll through the different rows; it practically locks up. The 7.0 and 10.1 have the same specs, right? I wonder if anyone else with the 10.1 has this problem.
@Darunion: Why did you trade your TF300 for the Tab 2, out of curiosity? I've been considering the exact opposite. And I apologize if a couple of s-words offended you somehow; I know we're all adults here but if it's indeed against the rules I will refrain next time. I'm not "raging" at all, but I just thought those adjectives worked best when describing this very frustrating tablet. /firstworldproblems

I have the 7 and haven't had any lag with cm9 and almost non existent lag on stock. I have a friend with the 10 and he can search/play with nextflix just fine.
I nor my friend have ever seen the tab lock up when downloading from the play store either.
Sounds like you got a bad tab more then anything.
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Found a video that shows what I'm talking about, albeit on the TF300, which suggests that this might not be a problem specifically for this tablet but rather the app's lack of tablet optimization. I'm finding it even laggier than shown here and sometimes I can't scroll at all (it also FC's regularly), but I may have been too quick to blame the Tab 2's hardware. This might just be an inherent disadvantage for Android tablets, and I'm experiencing similar sluggishness in similar apps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjhufve38r0&feature=player_detailpage#t=609s

Quacker said:
Found a video that shows what I'm talking about, albeit on the TF300, which suggests that this might not be a problem specifically for this tablet but rather the app's lack of tablet optimization. I'm finding it even laggier than shown here and sometimes I can't scroll at all (it also FC's regularly), but I may have been too quick to blame the Tab 2's hardware. This might just be an inherent disadvantage for Android tablets, and I'm experiencing similar sluggishness in similar apps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjhufve38r0&feature=player_detailpage#t=609s
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I saw a review on the nexus 7. It wasnt laggy, but it wasnt as quick as the galaxy nexus with jellybean because of the companion core and the lack if iptimization in the os. With the galaxy tabs on jellybean itll be a lot quicker. That optimization may be fixed too, it could have just been the stupid companion core doing most of it.

I have yet to enjoy a good netflix UI on any device. Quality of hardware is a relative concept.
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pogu said:
I have yet to enjoy a good netflix UI on any device. Quality of hardware is a relative concept.
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I use Netflix on tablets, phones, PC, and PS3.
PS3 is hooked up to a Panasonic 1080p projector
with a 133" Da-Lite screen. Netflix works best
on this setup... but it's probably because the PS3
has the best graphics capability?
However, I enjoy watching Netflix on my Samsung
Galaxy Nexus(phone) and my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0(tablet)
as well. They all work equally well, depending on
the quality of VZW 4G and/or wi-fi.

Quacker said:
I plan to try CM9 once my micro sd card arrives in the mail, but I'm not optimistic.
But you guys really don't get any lag whatsoever in the Netflix app? I'm using stock unrooted and I can barely scroll through the different rows; it practically locks up. The 7.0 and 10.1 have the same specs, right? I wonder if anyone else with the 10.1 has this problem.
@Darunion: Why did you trade your TF300 for the Tab 2, out of curiosity? I've been considering the exact opposite. And I apologize if a couple of s-words offended you somehow; I know we're all adults here but if it's indeed against the rules I will refrain next time. I'm not "raging" at all, but I just thought those adjectives worked best when describing this very frustrating tablet. /firstworldproblems
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I've really had no problem what so ever. I can't stand even 100th of a second in lag. You might just have hardware issues. I heart netflix. I switched to cm because I'm a fan. Not because of issues. My 7 tab is books and video only. And runs like a champ
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I do always enjoy watching netflix, its the browsing. Roku, smart tvs, blue ray players, video game consoles, mobile devices, etc. The browsing UI always sucks, honestly I think wii had the best browsing experience but the worst picture.
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Ok possible fix for Netflix try clearing data and force stop . I just did that and it feels more responsive . Also now I can choose the seasons of the episodes I was watching
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Happens to me 1 or 2 times a month. A fast reboot solves the problem every time.

Hey guys.
I would recommend you wstch this nice National Geographic documentaries, the landscaping and many of the images are outstanding.They look pretty nice on our tabs.

update to 4.04 made Netflix much snappier.
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I have had no problem with Netflix or video or lag in general, actually less than my nexus7. And woah..language!!!lol
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Netflix working awesome on Galaxy Nexus, Nook Color, Galaxy Tab2 7, PS3, Roku, laptops and desktops. When the competition fails Netflix has always succeed for me. Are there hiccups? Sure and they are mostly associated with the UI but you can't be all things to all people and devices. Thing is NOBODY comes as close as Netflix.

I have been using Netflix on my 7-inch Tab 2 for over a month. It's really smooth and I do not notice any lag at all.

Techradar review

So the Techradar review is now out: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/sony-xperia-tablet-z-1133193/review
Glowing it is.
I went into a local Currys today and had a play with the tablet and I was mightily impressed. It was very fast, highly responsive and overall a pleasure to use. The speakers did sound a bit tinny, but I wander if that can't be sorted with some fiddling with the equalizer.
Also I found the display to be rich and saturated, but it wasn't pin sharp like say my Nexus 4. Rather it was comparable to the Nexus 4 which is decently sharp but not razor sharp.
Overall, I'm very impressed!

That's my review for Techradar.. I can confirm it's a great device. Fire away with any questions..
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philliplavelle said:
That's my review for Techradar.. I can confirm it's a great device. Fire away with any questions..
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What's the SSD/flash IO performance like? Does it start to bog down if there's multiple things going on at once (like Play market updating in the background while a browser is trying to open a web page, or something like that) ??

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What's the SSD/flash IO performance like? Does it start to bog down if there's multiple things going on at once (like Play market updating in the background while a browser is trying to open a web page, or something like that) ??
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I hope not, that's an Asus exclusive issue so far

I just looked at a cnet review, and they really criticized the tablet saying that it has horrible wifi speeds. Can you confirm?

jetstream131 said:
I just looked at a cnet review, and they really criticized the tablet saying that it has horrible wifi speeds. Can you confirm?
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Hi, about WiFi issues and all around review, you can read here on InsideHW (my review):
http://www.insidehw.com/reviews/mobility/7777-sony-xperia-tablet-z-slim-and-mean
To cut long story short, WiFi is average when it works - up to 4MB/s, but it disconnects relatively often.

I havent come across this WiFi disconnect issue with my XTZ it works perfectly and i love it. It seems like there is a few lemon's out there unfortunately.

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Hi, about WiFi issues and all around review, you can read here on InsideHW (my review):
http://www.insidehw.com/reviews/mobility/7777-sony-xperia-tablet-z-slim-and-mean
To cut long story short, WiFi is average when it works - up to 4MB/s, but it disconnects relatively often.
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I've had my XTZ for about 6 weeks now and it's never once disconnected from WiFi. I've just done a speed test and got 6.5Mb/s, which is about as fast as my home broadband goes. So if there are tables with WiFi problems, it must either be a dodgy router, or a faulty tablet that will be covered by the warranty.

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Why is the HTC One X, Asus Prime and even the Nexus S being used as comparisons still?