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Has anyone noticed Google took off the wireless "n"

Before, you would go to http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html and it would show wireless b/g/n now, it only shows b/g. So what gives? Does it have it or not?

Very interesting find. I do remember seeing n

Yea, I remember HTC never listed it as having "n" but Google did. And it seems the Desire doesn't have it either...hmmm

It has and "n" WiFi radio, but there is some sort of cap/limit to save battery. There are several threads where members on here have run the tests and measured "n" speed data transfer using their N1, but IIRC they were running a CM rom, which is built from AOSP, and wouldn't have a limit like that in it.
The HD2 is in the same boat, HTC capped data speeds... someone found the registrey entry and edited it to enable full "n" speed, but it kills the battery really, really, really fast.

This is already known. Here are a couple articles if you want to read about it.
Posted January 6th, announcing that the teardown revealed the 802.11n
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi/
"Update: Just noticed that Google does list 802.11n on the specs page although HTC does not."
Posted January 8th, with the realization that the N support was removed from Google's N1 page.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/google-nexus-one-not-supporting-802-11n-for-the-time-being/

Mi|enko said:
This is already known. Here are a couple articles if you want to read about it.
Posted January 6th, announcing that the teardown revealed the 802.11n
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi/
"Update: Just noticed that Google does list 802.11n on the specs page although HTC does not."
Posted January 8th, with the realization that the N support was removed from Google's N1 page.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/google-nexus-one-not-supporting-802-11n-for-the-time-being/
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Whoah! Thanks bro, I check out engadget like every couple hours, I remember seeing that first article, but I guess I missed the second. Thanks for the link!

No problem man. Truth be told, I'm not sure why they removed it, as it's proven to still connect to N networks (on the 2.4Ghz band). I use it on my N dedicated network at home, with a registered 65mbps throughput. Granted, it's not the full N speed, but it's still 11mbps faster than G. lol

Mi|enko said:
No problem man. Truth be told, I'm not sure why they removed it, as it's proven to still connect to N networks (on the 2.4Ghz band). I use it on my N dedicated network at home, with a registered 65mbps throughput. Granted, it's not the full N speed, but it's still 11mbps faster than G. lol
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I can only dream of what the speed is with N, on G its already wicked fast!

Super slow wifi DL speeds! Anyone else?

I've searched around a bit andfound nothing on this topic. So I'm wondering if my epic's wifi radio is bad or something. Or if a new router may fix it. 500-1000kbps down and 3000-5000kbps up.
Background: I traded in my droid x for this after coming to the realization that it would never get true custom roms. When the X first came out it suffered the same issue but was reported all over the net and patched almost instantly and pulling ~15mbps down like it should. So unless their is a compatibility issue specific to the epic and my linksys E1000 I believe (bought at BB 2-3 years ago) I think it may be my phone. I can't find anyone else reporting this issue, wife's iPhone still connecting fine, laptops connecting fine, after patch the droid X connected fine, not sure what else it would be.
However, I am already considering a new router with mimo, dual band and usb support. Two smart phones, two personal laptops, two work laptops, a wii, and soon a new htpc or google tv just seems to be over working the poor little linksys and constantly needs reset anyway... If you guys think that could fix my epic problem ill get one sooner than later and not bother harrassing sprint.
If anyone else is suffering of was able to fix, please share!
Thanks in advance! You guys are da bomb and much appreciated!!!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Oh yeah. With other devices I full connectivity everwhere in my house (1000sqft condo) even outside a little ways. With the Epic, I get one bar downstairs two bars upstairs and USUALLY tthree when sitting right in front of it at my desk... Thanks again
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I'm running an E3000 and have zero problems whatsoever - pushing about 12Mbit in some cases. A few questions: Do you have WiFi N enabled? Mixed-mode? What channel? (The Evo, which has the same WiFi chipset, does NOT work well on channel 1, for instance).

Thank you very much for your response. It was very helpful! For some reason i didn't even think to mess with my router settings. I tried bunch of different stuff and what i think i found is that my router is not broadcasting well in wireless N. My best results for my epic ended up being wireless G only mode and channel 1. Now getting 4.5-5mbps down and 2-2.5mbps up on my phone. Which i can live with until i get a new router! Thanks again!

I am getting 10+ Mbps and I have a G router, I am going to be picking up and N router which the Epic can handle, cant wait.

Update broke my 802.11n Wi-fi

Anybody else?
Before the update I had my D-Link DAP-2553 wireless access point set for 802.11n only even though my stock, unrooted hardware version 3 Evo would never show connected faster than 65Mbps (WPA2+TKIP), it worked fine.
After the update, it won't even connect unless I set my AP to b, g, & n mixed mode. Then the phone phone will connect but only at 54Mbps.
I've rebooted a few times, disabled fast-boot and even pulled the battery but so far wireless N has been broken for me by the update. Did a "forget" in the wireless settings and even reset my AP to factory defaults and set up everything all over from scratch but still no go.
Any ideas?

limpiador31 said:
Anybody else?
Before the update I had my D-Link DAP-2553 wireless access point set for 802.11n only even though my stock, unrooted hardware version 3 Evo would never show connected faster than 65Mbps (WPA2+TKIP), it worked fine.
After the update, it won't even connect unless I set my AP to b, g, & n mixed mode. Then the phone phone will connect but only at 54Mbps.
I've rebooted a few times, disabled fast-boot and even pulled the battery but so far wireless N has been broken for me by the update. Did a "forget" in the wireless settings and even reset my AP to factory defaults and set up everything all over from scratch but still no go.
Any ideas?
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limpiador31, feel your pain. I thought this had only happened to me. I tried everything you mentioned with no success on fixin the issue. When I went into settings About Phone, Hardware Information I see that Wi-Fi is listed as 802.11 b/g when before it had n also. Since I'm rooted I nand back and Wi-Fi n is back. Just glad I'm rooted. Not sure why HTC would bork up something like that as that is taking steps backward and definitely not forward with respect to speed.

Thanks for the feedback.
Like you, I was trying too hard to fix the problem and didn't look at the obvious - 802.11n support has been removed from this update.
This is unacceptable and I consider it an unwelcome downgrade as my SpeedTest numbers on wi-fi have gone from about 11-12 down and 5 up to now 5 down and 3 up.
I'm going to do my best to stir up some trouble about this. People have been kind of meh because there's not a lot to see in the new update but for me, this new "feature" of losing half my connection speed jumped out and ate my face.
Everybody is so damned concerned that they can't get their Netflix fix which isn't HTC's problem, but losing a wireless protocol that's been there from the start is HTC's problem and I want it back!
I work in IT and am a geek/tech kinda gal but have strongly resisted rooting just because I know how much of my time I would invest in it but this may be the last straw that pushes me over the cliff.

limpiador31 said:
Thanks for the feedback.
Like you, I was trying too hard to fix the problem and didn't look at the obvious - 802.11n support has been removed from this update.
This is unacceptable and I consider it an unwelcome downgrade as my SpeedTest numbers on wi-fi have gone from about 11-12 down and 5 up to now 5 down and 3 up.
I'm going to do my best to stir up some trouble about this. People have been kind of meh because there's not a lot to see in the new update but for me, this new "feature" of losing half my connection speed jumped out and ate my face.
Everybody is so damned concerned that they can't get their Netflix fix which isn't HTC's problem, but losing a wireless protocol that's been there from the start is HTC's problem and I want it back!
I work in IT and am a geek/tech kinda gal but have strongly resisted rooting just because I know how much of my time I would invest in it but this may be the last straw that pushes me over the cliff.
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I sent an e-mail to Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, to vent my frustration at his tech team for taking a step backward by removing 802.11N support. I also posted a short note on HTC's facebook page. But HTC is only addressing "kind" posts and not those reporting issues. Go figure. I loved the ROM but I use WIFI at work and 4G the rest of the time except when traveling then I usually am forced to go back to 3G due to spotty coverage.

My wi-fi says 802.11b/g after the update to 2.3.3 as well. Not sure what it said prior to the update to be honest. But before the update the best I could get on SpeedTest when in the same room as my Cisco E4200 was 10.65Mbps down and 3.61Mbps up with a 30ms Ping. Just a couple minutes ago, post-update and in the same room as my E4200, I got 14.01 down and 3.67 up, with a 21ms Ping.
Not really sure if my EVO is now faster on wi-fi, but I don't think the update hurt my wi-fi speeds...
YMMV...

It hurt my speeds on mu wifi. I was usually getting around 20-25 down and mow on getting like 10
if you cant live large, look big in the coffin!!!

After posting this all over the world, someone told me the Evo never supported wireless N so I did a little digging... according to most of the published specs I've reviewed, they only list the b/g standards.
When the Evo first came out with Eclair, even though the hardware had a chip capable of 802.11n, it was crippled by HTC. The great dev's here figured out that by changing a few lines of code, wireless N could be enabled. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=707218
When Froyo came out, the above wireless G speeds were unlocked in the update making the Eclair hack unnecessary. I'm guessing that due to lack of "antenna diversity" i.e. the Evo only having one wireless antenna that this fell short of the 802.11n standard so they maybe never advertised wireless-N? This would also explain why Evo's could only connect at 65mbps rather than at 150 or 300 like true N should do.
All I know is I use to connect to my A/P which was in N only mode (no mixed b/g/n) at 65mbps. After today's update, my Evo can see my A/P in N only mode but not connect to it. If I set my A/P to mixed b/g/n, my Evo will connect at 54mbps and no higher.
Regardless of the standard or b/g/n letter, my Evo now connects into my network at 11mbps slower than it did before the update.

Wow, that's some bull....!!! Is this the same with 2.3.4?? I am going to try SavagedZen 2.3.4 and see.

Same here
Router shows my EVO only connecting as 802.11g, though other devices successfully connecting to 802.11n at the same time. Settings > About Phone > Hardware Information only shows Wi-Fi: 802.11b/g. Why would they reduce such a key feature?!?
I sent a tweet to @sprint and @htc yesterday, no response yet. I'm trying @sprintcare now.

limpiador31 said:
After posting this all over the world, someone told me the Evo never supported wireless N so I did a little digging... according to most of the published specs I've reviewed, they only list the b/g standards.
When the Evo first came out with Eclair, even though the hardware had a chip capable of 802.11n, it was crippled by HTC. The great dev's here figured out that by changing a few lines of code, wireless N could be enabled. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=707218
When Froyo came out, the above wireless G speeds were unlocked in the update making the Eclair hack unnecessary. I'm guessing that due to lack of "antenna diversity" i.e. the Evo only having one wireless antenna that this fell short of the 802.11n standard so they maybe never advertised wireless-N? This would also explain why Evo's could only connect at 65mbps rather than at 150 or 300 like true N should do.
All I know is I use to connect to my A/P which was in N only mode (no mixed b/g/n) at 65mbps. After today's update, my Evo can see my A/P in N only mode but not connect to it. If I set my A/P to mixed b/g/n, my Evo will connect at 54mbps and no higher.
Regardless of the standard or b/g/n letter, my Evo now connects into my network at 11mbps slower than it did before the update.
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Yeah i got slammed by someone in the sprint community saying too may ppl complaing about a feature gone that was never supported by sprint/htc to begin with.
I did some looking and sure enough I couldn't find a single thing that stated the EVO supported wireless N officially from sprint or htc.
What I find real odd is that with the 2.2 update they tweaked the kernel to allow wireless N support in the first place. I am going under the assumption this update was rushed and hence there are some bugs and things lacking in return. I can't see them having a reason to take it out other than they rushed the update. I guess its slightly possible that it coulda borked the kernel or messed with other stuff but I highly doubt that.

I saw the latest kernel modified to fix WiFi n in the dev section under one of the ofical release threads
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Is there anyway to make a WIFI Direct connection on the 5GHZ band?

Hi everyone,
I'm part of a robotics club in my school, and we use wifi direct with 2 phones to communicate between the robot and the remote control. We found that at times there would be a big delay between an input and a response from the robot at competition. We're assuming it has to do with a ton of other teams all using wifi direct at the same time and crowding up the 2.4 GHz band. So we were wondering if there was anyway to use WIFI Direct on the 5 GHZ band with the Nexus 6P or possibly any other phone you know of.
Thx in Advance

Bump... Huge problem at Worlds (lost our first two matches), because between FTC and FRC, there are over 1,000 WiFi devices communicating (or trying to and failing) on just 3 channels!!! Matches were being won and lost on the whims of the team phones' Wifi connections, rather than which teams were actually better. Our team (FTC #10298) is getting two Galaxy S5s for next season and really wants a way to use 5Ghz.

Build jammers and win your match that way. Lol. All jokes aside, I don't think there is a way for wifi direct on 5ghz.
Just came up in my mind. No idea how much dev time you have left, but you could build something to control your drone/device using a cellular connection like 4g?
Googling "drone 4g control github" should help you out.

We are actually in the off-season right now. Unfortunately, we are only allowed to connect via WiFi-direct. However, there are no rules against rooting/custom ROMs, so if there are any ways to force it to use 5GHz through rooting, that would be great.

Recommendations on the best VPN capable router/switch?

Hi All,
My current home network is not protected by a VPN across all ports/units, rather I indiviudally conenct to a VPN when required on a specific device. Given the state of things, I would really like to get my whole network behind a VPN, but want a capable switch that won't limit me (too much) in speed.
My current setup:
Cable modem in bridge mode ----> ASUS AC66U router (WiFi disabled, DDNS enabled through afraid.org)
----(Port 1)--> Ubiquiti AC WiFi Pro (this is my WiFi for the house)
----(Port 2)--> POE switch ----->4 security cams
----(Port 3)--> dumb switch #1 -----> multiple devices throughout the home
----(Port 4)--> dumb switch #2 -----> multiple devices throughout the home
I have various streaming devices, NAS and gaming systems that take advantage of the internet, as well as 3 kids that consume YouTube videos like there's no tomorrow.
My primary concern is a balance of speed and security. My internet plan now is a 150mps/10mps service.
I'm hoping this group might have some recommendations on a powerful/affordable VPN router/switch. As you can see from the above, it does not need to be WiFi capable as I'm using my Ubiquiti router.

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I can't provide you with a personal recommendation but, the following links are very helpful and from a very good website that I go to for various information like this one your asking.
http://www.toptenreviews.com/software/articles/stay-anonymous/
http://www.toptenreviews.com/computers/networking/best-wireless-routers/
There's other helpful information on that site for this but, I just wanted to give you a good start.
Good Luck!
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Anyone?

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Hello
I´m an IT admin and i will recommend you this VPN routers, it are think for bussines but they can serve you:
VPN 1
and this is a bit expensive
VPN 2
They all have WAN ports and in the last DMZ port.
Best Regards

cisco 2620?

Why not just install openvpn on your AC66U? You're barely using it as it is with wifi disabled. The Asuswrt-Merlin firmware project is an excellent 3rd party firmware for ASUS routers that includes excellent VPN support and you should be able to find a VPN based Merlin firmware for your AC66U.
junkyj said:
Hi All,
My current home network is not protected by a VPN across all ports/units, rather I indiviudally conenct to a VPN when required on a specific device. Given the state of things, I would really like to get my whole network behind a VPN, but want a capable switch that won't limit me (too much) in speed.
My current setup:
Cable modem in bridge mode ----> ASUS AC66U router (WiFi disabled, DDNS enabled through afraid.org)
----(Port 1)--> Ubiquiti AC WiFi Pro (this is my WiFi for the house)
----(Port 2)--> POE switch ----->4 security cams
----(Port 3)--> dumb switch #1 -----> multiple devices throughout the home
----(Port 4)--> dumb switch #2 -----> multiple devices throughout the home
I have various streaming devices, NAS and gaming systems that take advantage of the internet, as well as 3 kids that consume YouTube videos like there's no tomorrow.
My primary concern is a balance of speed and security. My internet plan now is a 150mps/10mps service.
I'm hoping this group might have some recommendations on a powerful/affordable VPN router/switch. As you can see from the above, it does not need to be WiFi capable as I'm using my Ubiquiti router.
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el80ne said:
Why not just install openvpn on your AC66U? You're barely using it as it is with wifi disabled. The Asuswrt-Merlin firmware project is an excellent 3rd party firmware for ASUS routers that includes excellent VPN support and you should be able to find a VPN based Merlin firmware for your AC66U.
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I've tried that and my throughput drops significantly. I don't have the numbers in front of me now, but clearly the processor on the router is not robust enough to manage the extra load.

junkyj said:
I've tried that and my throughput drops significantly. I don't have the numbers in front of me now, but clearly the processor on the router is not robust enough to manage the extra load.
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Yeah the AC66U's are still using the pretty dated MIPS74K, so that would surely be a drag on the VPN with lots of devices.
The Netgear Nighthawks are the best performing consumer grade wifi routers on the market. The latest X10 R9000 running a high performance 1.6 gig @ Arm A9 Quad would make a HUGE difference than what you saw on your single core MIPS74K. But you might not be feeling like dropping 400 bucks on a wifi router when it sounds like you're happy with the performance of your Ubiquity.
But if you could live with about 80% the speed of the R9000 you could get away with paying less than half that for a Nighthawk R8000 which uses a 1 GHz ARM A9 Multicore or even a Nighthawk R6700 which has the exact same proc specs but I've seen going for under a hundred bucks. The R6700 and the R8000 share the same CPU and therefore the VPN performance will be the same, but the R8000 is tri-band while the R6700 is only dual-band. So it'd be up to whether you'd want to pay more for that extra 5 gig radio.
Install DD-WRT and openvpn and you'd be on your way.

el80ne said:
Yeah the AC66U's are still using the pretty dated MIPS74K, so that would surely be a drag on the VPN with lots of devices.
The Netgear Nighthawks are the best performing consumer grade wifi routers on the market. The latest X10 R9000 running a high performance 1.6 gig @ Arm A9 Quad would make a HUGE difference than what you saw on your single core MIPS74K. But you might not be feeling like dropping 400 bucks on a wifi router when it sounds like you're happy with the performance of your Ubiquity.
But if you could live with about 80% the speed of the R9000 you could get away with paying less than half that for a Nighthawk R8000 which uses a 1 GHz ARM A9 Multicore or even a Nighthawk R6700 which has the exact same proc specs but I've seen going for under a hundred bucks. The R6700 and the R8000 share the same CPU and therefore the VPN performance will be the same, but the R8000 is tri-band while the R6700 is only dual-band. So it'd be up to whether you'd want to pay more for that extra 5 gig radio.
Install DD-WRT and openvpn and you'd be on your way.
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Thanks! This is really helpful

Mikrotik, is the way to go.
With a bit of a learnig curve you could program them to do whatever is needed.
or a Ubiquiti edgerouter if you want to stay with Ubiquiti
Mikrotik is similar to Cisco type configs and a fair bit cheaper.
Since we moved over to them we have not looked back.

Bad:Command said:
Mikrotik, is the way to go.
With a bit of a learnig curve you could program them to do whatever is needed.
or a Ubiquiti edgerouter if you want to stay with Ubiquiti
Mikrotik is similar to Cisco type configs and a fair bit cheaper.
Since we moved over to them we have not looked back.
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I second the Mikrotik. They're quite easy to understand with Winbox and you can get more advanced than you'd ever want to be in a home setup!